[00:43] <studio-user773> hey all, is there a tutorial for the cool US tools?
[06:47] <studio-user723> Nunca consegui dirigir sonido a los speakers, Scarlet 6i6 está certificada para Linux t Ubuntu. Complete audio 6 también pero nada
[06:50] <studio-user723> He probado de mil . Mo gustaría dejar Windows de lado. Peroódicamente lo intento exaustivamente con nuevas configuraciones y trucos aprendidos en la red. NADA. DESISTO
[06:52] <studio-user723> ADIOS?.....adios
[06:54] <studio-user723> You can hear me here;  https://soundcloud.com/drodemotta
[06:55] <studio-user723> Returning to windows. Damm
[13:37] <studio-user319> {
[17:43] <Gharuda> Hello peeps  am unable to setup jack
[17:44] <Gharuda> i'm wondering if maybe i am retarded
[17:44] <Gharuda> anny help whould be appreciated
[17:44] <Gharuda> i am altho reluctand to share my screen with strangers on the webs
[17:45] <Gharuda> also the utility to map the buttons on my wacom tablet is not working
[17:52] <Gharuda> sinewav
[17:52] <Gharuda> can u helps me get jack workingz
[17:52] <sinewav> hello
[17:52] <Gharuda> i dont undertand why it was to be so complicated
[17:53] <sinewav> I don't know much about Jack. What kind of problem are you having?
[17:53] <Gharuda> If i whould know what the problem is i whould't be here /D
[17:53] <Gharuda> I cant get anny sound out of it
[17:54] <Gharuda> my interface shows up twice
[17:54] <sinewav> Are you launching it from the command line or Qjackctl?
[17:54] <Gharuda> There is no audio output
[17:54] <Gharuda> I'm using Qjack
[17:55] <sinewav> you are using an external or internal interface?
[17:55] <Gharuda> External
[17:55] <sinewav> which model?
[17:55] <Gharuda> its an audio dj 8 from NI
[17:55] <sinewav> AH
[17:55] <sinewav> hold on.
[17:56] <Gharuda> i can get my firefox strem to output thru my interface in sound settings
[17:56] <Gharuda> so i know its not a driver issue
[17:56] <Gharuda> but i dont think that uses jack
[17:57] <sinewav> First, it that device should show up twice. There should be two separate audio channels. Is one marked 1/2 and the other marked 3/4?
[18:01] <sinewav> The Native Instruments gear should have class-compliant audio interfaces, which means you should have basic functionality, but special features might not be available and are sometimes dependent on the OS and native software.
[18:01] <Gharuda> One is listed as hW 2
[18:01] <sinewav> no sound comes from either of them?
[18:01] <Gharuda> and t he other one as hw 2,0
[18:01] <Gharuda> well i don't exactly now how to test that :D
[18:02] <Gharuda> as i'm also not sure if midi is working
[18:02] <sinewav> so, what happens when you start Jack from Qjackctl?
[18:02] <sinewav> Do you get an error?
[18:05] <sinewav> brb, laundry...
[18:09] <Gharuda> hello i'm back
[18:09] <Gharuda> system froze
[18:11] <Gharuda> Shoudn't i just have the option to routz AUdio DS 8 channel 4 to chanel D ?
[18:13] <sinewav> Sometimes Jack gets the numbers backwards.
[18:13] <sinewav> That's how it is on my system. My 1/2 is actually my C/D
[18:14] <sinewav> What are you trying to play through Jack? system sounds?
[18:14] <Gharuda> In audio the ony writable clients are Pulse audio jack sourse and system
[18:14] <Gharuda> audio dj 8 is not even mentioned
[18:14] <Gharuda> right now i have qsynth running
[18:15] <sinewav> Which version of Qjackctl?
[18:15] <Gharuda> but i wanted to set up an effect on channel 3
[18:15] <Gharuda> THe defaut one
[18:15] <Gharuda> that ships with studio
[18:16] <sinewav> Sorry, I actually don't have Ubuntu Studio 16.04 installed right now. I'm using MATE until certain XFCE bugs get fixed.
[18:16] <Gharuda> buggs like ?
[18:16] <sinewav> In the setup area, have you chosen an interface?
[18:17] <Gharuda> yes
[18:17] <sinewav> which one?
[18:17] <Gharuda> I picked Hw:Audio8DJ2
[18:18] <sinewav> OK good. But the device doesn't show up in the "connections" list under audio?
[18:18] <Gharuda> nope
[18:18] <sinewav> I see.
[18:19] <Gharuda> so nothing can be done then i gues ?
[18:19] <sinewav> And you don't get any messages when you start Qjackctl? There is a message window that should give you information
[18:19] <Gharuda> nope
[18:20] <Gharuda> only the JAck audio connection kit(default) start's
[18:20] <sinewav> well that is very strange!
[18:21] <sinewav> Ok, I haven't experienced a problem like this, but there are people better equipped to help. Are you familiar with linuxmusicians.com?
[18:21] <Gharuda> Nope
[18:21] <Gharuda> i'll go ask over there then
[18:21] <sinewav> It is a very active community. Pretty much the place to go for help with Linux Audio (because Linux Audio is a FUCKING NIGHTMARE)
[18:21] <Gharuda> whould you have anny idea how to get gtk-apps.org/content/show.php/Wacom+Control+Panel?content=104309 working :D
[18:22] <sinewav> Yes, do that. Explain that you can choose the interface in Qjackctl but it does not show up in the connections window.
[18:22] <sinewav> OH GOD don't get me started on the WACOM problems....
[18:23] <sinewav> The Wacom control panels only seems to work well under the Gnome Desktop Environment, not XFCE.
[18:24] <Gharuda> Fuck my life
[18:24] <Gharuda> this seemed so ideal :'(
[18:24] <sinewav> Although, the XFCE Wacom support is fairly good compared to other Linux distributions.
[18:24] <sinewav> Yeah, Linux is fucking terrible for art and media. It sucks, I'm sorry.
[18:24] <Gharuda> i dont wanne type shit to configure
[18:24] <Gharuda> yeah but it runs houdini better then windows :D
[18:25] <Gharuda> and audio drivers are better
[18:25] <Gharuda> plug and play whould be nice tho
[18:25] <Gharuda> :D
[18:25] <sinewav> I actually use Windows audio software in Linux under WINE
[18:25] <Gharuda> i'd like to learn to program and help with that
[18:25] <Gharuda> why not use bitwig ?
[18:26] <sinewav> Bitwig seems great, I just haven't bought it yet. Too accustomed to my old software.
[18:26] <Gharuda> I'm crying that ableton doesn't make a linux port :'(
[18:26] <Gharuda> bitwig only has 1 year of free updates
[18:27] <sinewav> Bitwig is made from people who worked for Ableton and wanted to go in a different direction.
[18:27] <sinewav> From what I can tell it's superior.
[18:27] <sinewav> But Ableton is old and entrenched in culture.
[18:28] <Gharuda> From what i can tell bitwig just lookes better at first sight but isn't as deep and the ui is one big cluttery mess
[18:29] <sinewav> Weird! When I tried the Bitwig demo I found it intuitive. That's just how software is. It's the advice I give to everyone looking to get into music production. I say "download every demo you can and pick the one that make the most sense since that all to basically the same thing."
[18:30] <sinewav> *they all
[18:30] <Gharuda> (yeah demo .... not friendly naborhood pirated software)
[18:31] <Gharuda> until you go for a full release ofc
[18:31] <Gharuda> you cant learn a workflow on the demo
[18:32] <sinewav> Also, if you are interested in a clear-headed but kind of depressing read, Louigi Verona wrote an article recently about the state of Linux Audio:
[18:32] <sinewav> http://www.louigiverona.com/?page=projects&s=writings&t=linux&a=linux_linuxaudio
[18:34] <Gharuda> Well im mainly here for houdini
[18:34] <Gharuda> audio is secondairy
[18:34] <Gharuda> i just wanne have bitwig running when i wanne fool around
[18:34] <sinewav> OK good. Linux is a tough platform for creative types unless you are using Blender.
[18:36] <Gharuda> well i also want just want to generally learn linux
[18:36] <Gharuda> as i want to go into ops for linux
[18:36] <Gharuda> but i know nothing for now
[18:44] <sinewav> It's a good thing to know. I jumped into Linux back in 2010 without any knowledge of IT and Programming, but now that's my job, and I got it because I know enough about how to configure Linux servers. So that's cool. Good luck to you!
[19:18] <Gharuda> thx
[19:18] <Gharuda> how'd you learn ?
[19:19] <Gharuda> Btw xsetwacom set is not recognising either HDMi-1-1 or Head 1 It returns Unknown parameter name ...
[19:30] <sinewav> I learned Linux by coming up with increasingly complicated projects to work on. Eventually I took a certificate class at the local college that went over Linux servers and that helped out a lot.
[19:31] <sinewav> Here is a good website for basics: https://linuxjourney.com/
[19:31] <Gharuda> THx
[19:31] <Gharuda> Does gnome eat more reqaurces then lxde
[19:32] <Gharuda> i realy need to map my tablet to one screen and xsetwacom aint working for shit
[19:33] <sinewav> Really, there isn't much difference between the popular DEs like MATE, XFCE, GNOME, and Cinnamon. LXDE is very light and KDE is heavier on average, but not by much.
[19:33] <sinewav> lxde
[19:33] <sinewav> *
[19:33] <Gharuda> yeah i'm not going to switch to something that uses X4 ram
[19:34] <Gharuda> But why wont this shit recognise HDMI-1-1 as an output
[19:34] <sinewav> The biggest problem in Linux isn't how much RAM a DE uses, but how well it performs with shitty video chipsets.
[19:34] <sinewav> Some compositors are worse than others
[19:34] <Gharuda> are you referring to gpu ?
[19:35] <sinewav> Yeah, GPU. You might want to check the "Additional Drivers" utility and see of there are drivers that will help you with the HDMI problem.
[19:35] <Gharuda> I already switched to the nvidea drivers
[19:36] <Gharuda> i have a reletivly recent gpu
[19:36] <Gharuda> 860M if i'm not wrong
[19:37] <sinewav> Ah. Well, I'm not sure what else to do about it other than combing through https://ubuntuforums.org/
[19:37] <sinewav> Also, the Linux Mint forums are usually better than the Ubuntu ones.
[19:38] <sinewav> Curiously, Mint has been slightly more popular than Ubuntu for several years.
[19:38] <Gharuda> Mint is the worst peace of shit looking distro in tha universe :D
[19:38] <sinewav> ha
[19:39] <Gharuda> Its more poplular becouse people use it for their grandparents
[19:39] <Gharuda> so it gets used on family members who will alwatys be nubs
[19:39] <sinewav> yeah I haven't used it in years. Although thanks to Mint I'm no using Ubuntu with the MATE Desktop.
[19:39] <Gharuda> So for each person that knows linux that one is prob used +1
[19:39] <sinewav> now using*
[19:40] <Gharuda> But its so fuuugly ?
[19:40] <sinewav> MATE?
[19:40] <sinewav> Yeah it's ugly.
[19:40] <sinewav> But I don't need much in a DE. I just need things out of my way.
[19:42] <sinewav> I'll most likely switch back to Ubuntu Studio when 18.04 is realeased.
[19:42] <sinewav> I've been avoiding Thunar because there are some serious bugs that need fixing. (They aren't quite fixed yet).
[19:43] <Unit193> Tried out the latest release?  .11 fixed some major crashing issues.
[19:43] <Gharuda> Oj unit
[19:43] <Gharuda> cans you help me
[19:44] <Gharuda> i cant set my wacom tablet to use only my right screen
[19:44] <Gharuda> system returns unknown parameter value when i assign it to HEAD-1
[19:44] <sinewav> No I haven't, but I'll definitely check out .11 when I see it in a distro.
[19:46] <Gharuda> (server display config in nvidea server display is empty
[21:28] <studio-user782> Hi everyone - Pete here from NZ. First time using IRC, so I hope I get the netiquette right! Does anyone here know about bootloader problems, because my computer froze partway through a software update and messed up GRUB so now it just gives me a > prompt and I'm having to boot from a Live USB of the latest release?
[21:29] <Unit193> Sounds like a case of live cd, chroot in, grub-install and update grub.
[21:33] <studio-user782> Thanks, Unit193. Will it make any difference that I'm on Xenial and that the Software Updater gave me what it called a "partial upgrade" to get over previous problems it had during an update?
[21:41] <Unit193> I don't use "Software Updater", presumably you're still on Xenial though, so in that case while I was chrooted in I'd complete the updates too.
[21:59] <studio-user782> Sounds like a good plan. I'm more of a skilled user than a sysadmin, so my knowledge is a bit sketchy: I've never chrooted before. I've got two volumes mounted from my damaged system: one small one that looks like it should be /boot, and one big one that looks like it should be root (/). What do you think I should do to chroot in, and what result should I expect? (Thanks so much for your help, by the way!)
[22:02] <Unit193> You'll have to mount / in, say, /target/ then /boot in /target/boot, and since I'm lazy and don't want to do all the setup, I use a script for the bindmounting and chrooting in.
[22:07] <studio-user782> I don't suppose you could share your script, could you?
[22:08] <Unit193> It's (patched) from the unpackaged arch-install-scripts package.  Basically bindmounts dev, proc, sys, etc, devpts in.
[22:09] <krytarik> studio-user782: I'll just generally link this now..: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2
[22:10] <Unit193> https://sigma.unit193.net/~unit193/arch-chroot
[22:10] <Unit193> Oooh, right.  Instructions!  Nice choice. :D
[22:10] <krytarik> :P
[22:10] <Unit193> Forget I linked that one. :P
[22:11] <studio-user782> You two are awesome!
[22:12]  * Unit193 gives krytarik more points for actually linking normal instructions.
[22:13] <krytarik> \o/
[22:14] <studio-user782> That's great - I'm going to give that a go. :)
[22:15] <Unit193> (Though that method isn't as fun. >_> )
[22:55] <studio-user590> Hello
[23:53] <studio-user782> Hey, Unit193, I scrolled down until I found instructions that looked like they matched your method and I've repaired GRUB. It complained about a missing EFI directory, but I found it (/dev/sda1), mounted it under my chrooted /boot/efi and did the grub-install again with no errors reported.
[23:53] <studio-user782> Thanks again!
[23:54] <Unit193> AH!  UEFI!  And glad you got it, and reported back.
[23:54] <Unit193> "Welcome.