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stevehope:)01:22
flocculantknome: what's happening with the slideshow update? 08:58
stevehopeFinal Xubuntu Desktop amd64 passed all testing 5/5 2/2 20170408 bug free :)11:07
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 17.04 - i386 - i386 built.12:23
flocculantstevehope: in here ;)12:45
* flocculant can put on 2 of his hats ...12:46
stevehopethanks12:46
stevehopeThe Xubuntu installer has the IRC client available for help, and the browser it runs in.  It's a great feature.  As of a week or some ago the vanilla Ubuntu install doesn't include this feature, or didn't mention it in the slides. I think a task should be added to launch #xubuntu from slides during install. It's incredibly helpful for someone with single system to be able to get live help, and to have access to the browser to se12:55
stevehopeI added this myself to the tests for final xubuntu amd64 that I did, if the test is added I'll add confirmation comments to the iso's I already tested from final13:00
flocculantas13:02
flocculantbah13:03
flocculantstevehope: do you mean add testing that browser/irc works to a testcase?13:03
flocculantcos that would mean us re-writing all of the installer testcases just for Xubuntu - currently the install testcases are 'global' ones for the most part13:05
flocculantunless we add it to the live testcase - but what we're actually testing at that point is that link works13:06
stevehopethats test #xubuntu works from slide during the install, in all ISO xubuntu testcaes that are targeted as attended installations. Hope thats more clear13:07
flocculantmmm13:07
flocculantdon't really want to have to be supporting extra install testcases - the live testcase should suffice if we do it13:08
stevehopenot asking if you agree, do you get what i mean?13:08
flocculantyea I understand :)13:08
flocculantstevehope: what I'm saying is we could have a 'xubuntu' version of http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1303/info 13:10
flocculantfor it to be on an 'installer' testcase we would have to re-write a complete set of them for Xubuntu13:10
stevehopethats my 2c worth :) and yes, adding to the live test makes more sense..... and it's the testcase with the most user interation, so fits the workflow pattern well13:10
flocculantright13:10
flocculanthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+filebug13:10
flocculantmake sure to put 1303 in there somewhere as the testcase ref13:11
flocculantmmmm13:11
* flocculant scratches head a bit13:11
flocculantlive session doesn't see the slideshow13:12
stevehopeah ha! my ill informed suggest was right, la13:13
flocculantstevehope: thing is - if browser is working then the link from the slideshow will13:13
flocculantand browser testing gets done automatically13:13
stevehopeI was trying to test against it's availibilty during slide show, I don't know the overall relationships well enough to know if thats covered before the slide show starts13:15
flocculantit's not tested13:15
stevehopedo the other flavours of ubuntu have this at all?13:16
stevehopeits news to me13:16
flocculantit's just assumed that if the link worked before - it will now - assuming browser does :)13:16
flocculantstevehope: not sure tbh - I test other flavours if I see something break that could affect them - certainly take no notice of their slideshows much13:17
stevehopeI don;t want to waste too much of your time, I am going to read up a bit13:18
flocculantstevehope: don't worry about that :)13:18
stevehopehow do you know if the browser works?13:18
flocculantbecause 1 - everyone would shout, 2 - canonical autopkg testing 3 - I run the dev version from the day after we release and I would shout louder13:19
stevehopelol 13:19
flocculantstevehope: what won't happen is the main installer testcase changing here - I can say that with my manual testcase admin hat on13:20
flocculanttestcases 13:20
flocculantnothing to stop us building a testcase for slideshow itself 13:21
flocculantwhether 'we' (Xubuntu) think that's a good use of people's time - bearing in mind we have hardly any testers reporting things at all ;)13:22
stevehopeI'm approaching it from a relative total newcomer to linux, trying to get past UEFI on OEM windows machines, like mine, Acer-V3, requires extra toggling of secure boot and manual addition of shimx64.efi as trusted13:22
flocculantthat said anyone can branch the slideshow from launchpad and run the test script13:22
flocculantstevehope: that's good - always good to see new perspectives :)13:23
flocculantstevehope: btw > https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-testers 13:25
flocculantstevehope: being part of the the xubuntu-bug team means you will see mail regarding any bug that we 'deal' with13:26
stevehopethanks, I was already a member of https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-bugs13:28
flocculantyea I know - was just making you aware of what that meant :)13:30
stevehopeI'm still navigating the various wrokflows, I'll get it eventually13:31
flocculantstevehope: if eveer not sure just ask in either here or -offtopic13:31
flocculantif it's qa related either akxwi-dave or me for the main part, but anyone should be able to give you clues13:32
stevehopethanks, I'll look into that more13:32
flocculantand if you stick around for long enough we have https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-qa which is set up specifically to let people who contribute only in testing/qa a way in to the main Xubuntu team13:33
flocculantbut that's moderated - eg you'll get invited in :) 13:33
stevehopeI'll be around as long as I'm learning.... retired early due to injury s handso have lots of time on my13:34
stevehopeopps ... retired early due to injury*13:35
flocculantthat's not so good :(13:35
flocculantbut we'll try and keep you busy ;)13:36
flocculantstevehope: you seen http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/qa.html ?13:36
flocculantakxwi-dave: did you deal with https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-qa/+editproposedmembers at all? 13:37
stevehopemy next task for myself is build a docker with a xubuntu base, fully built with some machine learning stuff13:37
flocculantstevehope: seen https://hub.docker.com/r/schuellerf/xfce-test/13:38
flocculantand if you are going to do that - document it, might well be really useful for others of us 13:38
flocculant(especially me who can't suss out the xfce one ... )13:39
stevehopei was looking at that one yesterday, it will be a great help as a reference, I want to build it myself  for a specific machine learning config, with python2.x and 3.1 and a few dozen other things13:43
stevehope*python 2.7 and 3.51 13:45
flocculantI just couldn't make anything work - I suspect there is a 'this is really obvious if you've used these before' step :D13:45
stevehopei am going to build it as a docker first, then as a snap13:46
flocculantonly tried one snap ... bad choice of snaps :p13:47
stevehopei have to build damn near everthing from zero if i did the snap first13:48
stevehopewhen sucessful, I'll have a proper xubuntu desktop amd64 part others might find usefull13:50
akxwi-daveflocculant:  thought we had declined that..   In fact I am 100% positive that we had..14:39
akxwi-daveAs he had only just joined testers..  I'll look further into it.14:41
flocculantok - just needs removing from list then16:03
knomeflocculant, nothing atm...17:28
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