stevehope | :) | 01:22 |
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flocculant | knome: what's happening with the slideshow update? | 08:58 |
stevehope | Final Xubuntu Desktop amd64 passed all testing 5/5 2/2 20170408 bug free :) | 11:07 |
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 17.04 - i386 - i386 built. | 12:23 | |
flocculant | stevehope: in here ;) | 12:45 |
* flocculant can put on 2 of his hats ... | 12:46 | |
stevehope | thanks | 12:46 |
stevehope | The Xubuntu installer has the IRC client available for help, and the browser it runs in. It's a great feature. As of a week or some ago the vanilla Ubuntu install doesn't include this feature, or didn't mention it in the slides. I think a task should be added to launch #xubuntu from slides during install. It's incredibly helpful for someone with single system to be able to get live help, and to have access to the browser to se | 12:55 |
stevehope | I added this myself to the tests for final xubuntu amd64 that I did, if the test is added I'll add confirmation comments to the iso's I already tested from final | 13:00 |
flocculant | as | 13:02 |
flocculant | bah | 13:03 |
flocculant | stevehope: do you mean add testing that browser/irc works to a testcase? | 13:03 |
flocculant | cos that would mean us re-writing all of the installer testcases just for Xubuntu - currently the install testcases are 'global' ones for the most part | 13:05 |
flocculant | unless we add it to the live testcase - but what we're actually testing at that point is that link works | 13:06 |
stevehope | thats test #xubuntu works from slide during the install, in all ISO xubuntu testcaes that are targeted as attended installations. Hope thats more clear | 13:07 |
flocculant | mmm | 13:07 |
flocculant | don't really want to have to be supporting extra install testcases - the live testcase should suffice if we do it | 13:08 |
stevehope | not asking if you agree, do you get what i mean? | 13:08 |
flocculant | yea I understand :) | 13:08 |
flocculant | stevehope: what I'm saying is we could have a 'xubuntu' version of http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1303/info | 13:10 |
flocculant | for it to be on an 'installer' testcase we would have to re-write a complete set of them for Xubuntu | 13:10 |
stevehope | thats my 2c worth :) and yes, adding to the live test makes more sense..... and it's the testcase with the most user interation, so fits the workflow pattern well | 13:10 |
flocculant | right | 13:10 |
flocculant | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+filebug | 13:10 |
flocculant | make sure to put 1303 in there somewhere as the testcase ref | 13:11 |
flocculant | mmmm | 13:11 |
* flocculant scratches head a bit | 13:11 | |
flocculant | live session doesn't see the slideshow | 13:12 |
stevehope | ah ha! my ill informed suggest was right, la | 13:13 |
flocculant | stevehope: thing is - if browser is working then the link from the slideshow will | 13:13 |
flocculant | and browser testing gets done automatically | 13:13 |
stevehope | I was trying to test against it's availibilty during slide show, I don't know the overall relationships well enough to know if thats covered before the slide show starts | 13:15 |
flocculant | it's not tested | 13:15 |
stevehope | do the other flavours of ubuntu have this at all? | 13:16 |
stevehope | its news to me | 13:16 |
flocculant | it's just assumed that if the link worked before - it will now - assuming browser does :) | 13:16 |
flocculant | stevehope: not sure tbh - I test other flavours if I see something break that could affect them - certainly take no notice of their slideshows much | 13:17 |
stevehope | I don;t want to waste too much of your time, I am going to read up a bit | 13:18 |
flocculant | stevehope: don't worry about that :) | 13:18 |
stevehope | how do you know if the browser works? | 13:18 |
flocculant | because 1 - everyone would shout, 2 - canonical autopkg testing 3 - I run the dev version from the day after we release and I would shout louder | 13:19 |
stevehope | lol | 13:19 |
flocculant | stevehope: what won't happen is the main installer testcase changing here - I can say that with my manual testcase admin hat on | 13:20 |
flocculant | testcases | 13:20 |
flocculant | nothing to stop us building a testcase for slideshow itself | 13:21 |
flocculant | whether 'we' (Xubuntu) think that's a good use of people's time - bearing in mind we have hardly any testers reporting things at all ;) | 13:22 |
stevehope | I'm approaching it from a relative total newcomer to linux, trying to get past UEFI on OEM windows machines, like mine, Acer-V3, requires extra toggling of secure boot and manual addition of shimx64.efi as trusted | 13:22 |
flocculant | that said anyone can branch the slideshow from launchpad and run the test script | 13:22 |
flocculant | stevehope: that's good - always good to see new perspectives :) | 13:23 |
flocculant | stevehope: btw > https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-testers | 13:25 |
flocculant | stevehope: being part of the the xubuntu-bug team means you will see mail regarding any bug that we 'deal' with | 13:26 |
stevehope | thanks, I was already a member of https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-bugs | 13:28 |
flocculant | yea I know - was just making you aware of what that meant :) | 13:30 |
stevehope | I'm still navigating the various wrokflows, I'll get it eventually | 13:31 |
flocculant | stevehope: if eveer not sure just ask in either here or -offtopic | 13:31 |
flocculant | if it's qa related either akxwi-dave or me for the main part, but anyone should be able to give you clues | 13:32 |
stevehope | thanks, I'll look into that more | 13:32 |
flocculant | and if you stick around for long enough we have https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-qa which is set up specifically to let people who contribute only in testing/qa a way in to the main Xubuntu team | 13:33 |
flocculant | but that's moderated - eg you'll get invited in :) | 13:33 |
stevehope | I'll be around as long as I'm learning.... retired early due to injury s handso have lots of time on my | 13:34 |
stevehope | opps ... retired early due to injury* | 13:35 |
flocculant | that's not so good :( | 13:35 |
flocculant | but we'll try and keep you busy ;) | 13:36 |
flocculant | stevehope: you seen http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/qa.html ? | 13:36 |
flocculant | akxwi-dave: did you deal with https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-qa/+editproposedmembers at all? | 13:37 |
stevehope | my next task for myself is build a docker with a xubuntu base, fully built with some machine learning stuff | 13:37 |
flocculant | stevehope: seen https://hub.docker.com/r/schuellerf/xfce-test/ | 13:38 |
flocculant | and if you are going to do that - document it, might well be really useful for others of us | 13:38 |
flocculant | (especially me who can't suss out the xfce one ... ) | 13:39 |
stevehope | i was looking at that one yesterday, it will be a great help as a reference, I want to build it myself for a specific machine learning config, with python2.x and 3.1 and a few dozen other things | 13:43 |
stevehope | *python 2.7 and 3.51 | 13:45 |
flocculant | I just couldn't make anything work - I suspect there is a 'this is really obvious if you've used these before' step :D | 13:45 |
stevehope | i am going to build it as a docker first, then as a snap | 13:46 |
flocculant | only tried one snap ... bad choice of snaps :p | 13:47 |
stevehope | i have to build damn near everthing from zero if i did the snap first | 13:48 |
stevehope | when sucessful, I'll have a proper xubuntu desktop amd64 part others might find usefull | 13:50 |
akxwi-dave | flocculant: thought we had declined that.. In fact I am 100% positive that we had.. | 14:39 |
akxwi-dave | As he had only just joined testers.. I'll look further into it. | 14:41 |
flocculant | ok - just needs removing from list then | 16:03 |
knome | flocculant, nothing atm... | 17:28 |
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