[11:58] Hi, i think i have found a problem with DNS custom settings. If i use DNS from https://www.opennicproject.org/ i get random network disconnection. I don't really know where to report that problem. Since i removed custom settings, i am not disconnected anymore. [12:03] User-8: what if you use google's DNS settings? [12:04] I didn't tryed it [12:04] give it a try - let us know [12:04] Yes sure [12:07] to be honest - I leave this up to my router - I use google's DNS in my router rather than my ISP's DNS [15:01] I see that the budgie-remix repo is not added in the 17.04 beta. If we upgrade from 16.10, is it safe to remove that repo? [15:01] datawolf: yes - the budgie-remix ppa is not needed [15:01] 17.04 has a backports ppa for newer stuff now [15:03] I'm assuming that software initially intalled on 16.10 via the ppa will now be updated through the official repos? [15:05] almost - obscure stuff like skippy-xd, budgie-screenshot-applet will be removed because they are not in the repositories. You'll need to add the backports PPA if you want these. [15:05] "ppa:ubuntubudgie/backports" [15:06] but core budgie stuff is in the main repos? [15:07] yes [15:11] I see that there are only 6 packages in the backports. One of them is the budgie-welcome. Is that just a more up to date version that what ships with 17.04? [15:15] datawolf: correct. new stuff - can grab and move the window, translation support [15:15] we'll be adding new stuff during this cycle - all stuff that will be in 17.10 [15:16] budgie-desktop v10.3 will be also added to backports [15:25] Think budgie 11 will be in 17.10? [15:25] I'm really loving Budgie, but the switch to Qt has me a little nervous [15:27] datawolf: unlikely - upstream timescales are against budgie 11 in 17.10 [15:28] is it not targetted for second quarter 2017 any longer? [15:29] budgie 11 is targeted for second quarter - but because this is a fundamental rewrite there will be lots and lots of new packages. It takes 2-3 months to get these into Debian [15:29] since the freeze date of Ubuntu is mid august - we will have missed the ability to sync from debian to ubuntu [15:30] that makes sense [15:30] thanks for being patient with all my questions [15:30] yw [15:36] So, my mom has 16.10 on her pc, and she lives out of state, so I have to help her upgrade remotely. Is it safe to assume that after the upgrade is complete, I can just change the sources.list file to match that of a fresh 17.04 install? [15:36] then add back in any ppa's as needed [15:42] after the upgrade the sources.list should be automatically set to be 17.04 [15:43] yes - then you can add back any 17.04 PPAs. obviously remember - thirdparty PPAs take a few days/weeks to update when a new release is around. So check first [15:43] really the only one she has is for Chrome. [15:44] I try to keep her system as simple as possible since I have to admin it remotely [15:44] chrome I have tested with 17.04 ... it is part of the budgie-welcome browser ballot [15:45] I was concerned that it disabled the budgie-remix ppa in my testing, but that is no longer needed [15:45] I think I'll be good [15:45] no zesty packages will be added to the budgie-remix ppa [15:54] Thanks again