[11:58] <User-8> Hi, i think i have found a problem with DNS custom settings. If i use DNS from https://www.opennicproject.org/ i get random network disconnection. I don't really know where to report that problem. Since i removed custom settings, i am not disconnected anymore.
[12:03] <fossfreedom_> User-8: what if you use google's DNS settings?
[12:04] <User-8> I didn't tryed it
[12:04] <fossfreedom_> give it a try - let us know
[12:04] <User-8> Yes sure
[12:07] <fossfreedom_> to be honest - I leave this up to my router - I use google's DNS in my router rather than my ISP's DNS
[15:01] <datawolf> I see that the budgie-remix repo is not added in the 17.04 beta. If we upgrade from 16.10, is it safe to remove that repo?
[15:01] <fossfreedom_> datawolf: yes - the budgie-remix ppa is not needed
[15:01] <fossfreedom_> 17.04 has a backports ppa for newer stuff now
[15:03] <datawolf> I'm assuming that software initially intalled on 16.10 via the ppa will now be updated through the official repos?
[15:05] <fossfreedom_> almost - obscure stuff like skippy-xd, budgie-screenshot-applet will be removed because they are not in the repositories.  You'll need to add the backports PPA if you want these.
[15:05] <fossfreedom_> "ppa:ubuntubudgie/backports"
[15:06] <datawolf> but core budgie stuff is in the main repos?
[15:07] <fossfreedom_> yes
[15:11] <datawolf> I see that there are only 6 packages in the backports. One of them is the budgie-welcome. Is that just a more up to date version that what ships with 17.04?
[15:15] <fossfreedom_> datawolf: correct.  new stuff - can grab and move the window, translation support
[15:15] <fossfreedom_> we'll be adding new stuff during this cycle - all stuff that will be in 17.10
[15:16] <fossfreedom_> budgie-desktop v10.3 will be also added to backports
[15:25] <datawolf> Think budgie 11 will be in 17.10?
[15:25] <datawolf> I'm really loving Budgie, but the switch to Qt has me a little nervous
[15:27] <fossfreedom_> datawolf: unlikely - upstream timescales are against budgie 11 in 17.10
[15:28] <datawolf> is it not targetted for second quarter 2017 any longer?
[15:29] <fossfreedom_> budgie 11 is targeted for second quarter - but because this is a fundamental rewrite there will be lots and lots of new packages.  It takes 2-3 months to get these into Debian
[15:29] <fossfreedom_> since the freeze date of Ubuntu is mid august - we will have missed the ability to sync from debian to ubuntu
[15:30] <datawolf> that makes sense
[15:30] <datawolf> thanks for being patient with all my questions
[15:30] <fossfreedom_> yw
[15:36] <datawolf> So, my mom has 16.10 on her pc, and she lives out of state, so I have to help her upgrade remotely. Is it safe to assume that after the upgrade is complete, I can just change the sources.list file to match that of a fresh 17.04 install?
[15:36] <datawolf> then add back in any ppa's as needed
[15:42] <fossfreedom_> after the upgrade the sources.list should be automatically set to be 17.04
[15:43] <fossfreedom_> yes - then you can add back any 17.04 PPAs.  obviously remember - thirdparty PPAs take a few days/weeks to update when a new release is around.  So check first
[15:43] <datawolf> really the only one she has is for Chrome.
[15:44] <datawolf> I try to keep her system as simple as possible since I have to admin it remotely
[15:44] <fossfreedom_> chrome I have tested with 17.04 ... it is part of the budgie-welcome browser ballot
[15:45] <datawolf> I was concerned that it disabled the budgie-remix ppa in my testing, but that is no longer needed
[15:45] <datawolf> I think I'll be good
[15:45] <fossfreedom_> no zesty packages will be added to the budgie-remix ppa
[15:54] <datawolf> Thanks again