| ayad | how to install steam from terminal? | 05:44 |
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| ayad | sudo get apt-steam??? | 05:44 |
| Astro7467 | sudo apt-get install steam | 05:47 |
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| mate|70656 | what are the pros of ubuntu mate over ubuntu.. | 09:35 |
| Astro7467 | Lower system requirements/footprint, traditional (yet flexible/customisable) user interface + advantages of being built on, and part of, Ubuntu | 09:37 |
| mate|70656 | I am using ubuntu on a hp notebook with intel i3, 4 gb ram without graphics card. It feels a bit slower.. | 09:42 |
| mate|70656 | Can it be improved with ubuntu mate? | 09:42 |
| Astro7467 | I don't have the figures off the top of my head, but if you are using up a lot of RAM, then MATE may help | 09:43 |
| Astro7467 | You can add the MATE DE to an existing Ubuntu install - you just need to install the desktop package and at login change the desktop environment to use (Unity or MATE) | 09:44 |
| mate|70656 | Would you please help me with minimum partition sizes while creating manual partitioning for installing ubuntu mate... | 09:45 |
| mate|70656 | I am dual booting with windows 10 | 09:45 |
| mate|70656 | Do I really need to create swap partition...what should be the minimum size... | 09:46 |
| Astro7467 | for root partition the smallest I would go is 16GB | 09:47 |
| Astro7467 | smaller possible _my systems with clean install and additional packages (libreoffice updates etc) use 6.4GB | 09:48 |
| Astro7467 | you can skip a swap partition - you can use a swapfile to avoid the extra partitioning needs - think 17.04 will be swapfile by defualt (I'm focused on LTS, so someone more familiar shld be able to confirm/deny that) | 09:50 |
| mate|70656 | I have given 15 GB to root and 5 gb home and 5 gb for swap. | 09:50 |
| mate|70656 | does it qualify for a good enough system for begining with linux | 09:51 |
| Astro7467 | Yes - i3 & 4GB shld be sufficent for light desktop needs - i.e. not running a lot of apps at the same time and expecting to be able to swap between them quickly | 09:52 |
| Astro7467 | note that web browsers tend to be the biggest users of RAM - lots of tabs etc will cause high RAM consumption | 09:53 |
| Astro7467 | not unusual to see FF or Chrome consume 1GB+ of RAM | 09:53 |
| Astro7467 | I say this with hesitation, so pls be aware there are additional risks involved - you can just have a single partition where root & home reside | 09:55 |
| jbicha | flexiondotorg: see https://launchpadlibrarian.net/315110326/ubuntu-gnome-default-settings_17.04.2_17.04.3.diff.gz | 09:55 |
| jbicha | good morning | 09:55 |
| mate|70656 | How can I swap swap partition with the swap file and what should be size of swap file... | 09:55 |
| flexiondotorg | jbicha Hi :-) | 09:55 |
| Astro7467 | so a single partition & a swapfile (which you cld grow/shrink to your needs) with 20GB of space would give you a flexible amount of space | 09:56 |
| flexiondotorg | Thanks for sharing! | 09:56 |
| mate|70656 | I have created three partitions 15 gb root, 5gb home, 5gb swap...now what should I change.? | 09:58 |
| Astro7467 | If you have already created them, I suggest just leaving AS-IS | 09:58 |
| jbicha | well, Ubuntu GNOME borrowed the homepage customization from Ubuntu MATE | 09:58 |
| jbicha | flexiondotorg: I also fixed LP: #1681351 for Ubuntu GNOME today | 10:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1681351 in ubuntu-gnome-meta (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu GNOME does not install build-essential by default" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1681351 | 10:00 |
| Astro7467 | mate|70656: | 10:01 |
| jbicha | and you saw https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2017-March/004070.html right? | 10:01 |
| jbicha | last minute seed changes are uncomfortable but I figured these additions are useful | 10:01 |
| flexiondotorg | jbicha What should build-essentials be installed by default though? | 10:02 |
| jbicha | there will need to be a zesty respin anyway for ubiquity | 10:02 |
| jbicha | in the bug report, I pointed to someone who complained about it being useful for installing proprietary wifi drivers | 10:03 |
| jbicha | you're welcome to leave things as they are for zesty though if you want | 10:03 |
| flexiondotorg | jbicha Ubuntu MATE has the exFAT stuff seeded. | 10:03 |
| flexiondotorg | As for Wireless drivers, we have a section in Ubuntu MATE Welcome to assist with that that pulls in the required tool post install. | 10:04 |
| flexiondotorg | Out image is quite flabby :-) | 10:04 |
| jbicha | ok, so you're ahead of us! :) | 10:04 |
| flexiondotorg | I'm trying to keep it on a diet ;-) | 10:04 |
| flexiondotorg | That Firefox fix is much appreciated, thank you! | 10:05 |
| alkisg | jbicha: so next Ubuntu will start off from ubuntu-gnome? | 10:19 |
| alkisg | (hi all btw) | 10:19 |
| alkisg | There' won't be an ubuntu-gnome spin anymore, it'll just be called ubuntu? | 10:20 |
| jbicha | alkisg: Ubuntu GNOME will be making an announcement later this week to hopefully answer some of the bigger questions :) | 10:31 |
| alkisg | Cool; I'll wait to read it :) | 10:49 |
| el3phanten | Hi. How do I set mouse and touchpad speed independently? | 11:08 |
| el3phanten | ubuntu mate 16.04 | 11:08 |
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| HendiMan | Hello, does anyone know how to lower mouse sensitivity beyond the gui tool? | 11:58 |
| HendiMan | I have tried google but many suggestions do not work | 11:58 |
| el3phanten | HendiMan: http://askubuntu.com/questions/205676/how-to-change-mouse-speed-sensitivity did you try this one? | 12:01 |
| HendiMan | yes, no luck | 12:04 |
| el3phanten | works for me. Set the "Device Accel Constant Deceleration" to a higher number | 12:06 |
| el3phanten | I just had to do this to set my mouse and touchpad speed independent | 12:07 |
| HendiMan | my mouse does not have that option in --list-props | 12:11 |
| ouroumov_ | flexiondotorg, updates settings on my bare-metal 17.04 Beta 2 install are set to download and install automatically for security updates. Is that normal? I though the default policy was "don't do anything automatically by default" | 13:24 |
| flexiondotorg | https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/automatic-updates.html | 13:31 |
| flexiondotorg | Installing security updates is the correct behaviour. | 13:31 |
| ouroumov_ | flexiondotorg, I'm not disputing that, but usually the desktop user gets a say in when to do it. This changed in 16.04 when we discovered the missing dependency unattended-upgrades, and back then adding that package automatically selected that option, but afaik this shouldn't be default. | 13:33 |
| alkisg | The very annoying part of this is, `apt-get update` => can't because of dpkg lock | 13:34 |
| alkisg | Then `killall apt` or stuff like that => broken packages because it was installing | 13:34 |
| alkisg | IMHO it shouldn't be the default until it's properly displayed to the users, that apt is working behind the scenes | 13:35 |
| alkisg | I've seen many users get issues because of that. So security updates are supposed to help, but break systems instead. | 13:35 |
| ouroumov_ | alkisg, flexiondotorg : apparently vanilla Ubuntu also uses that setting. | 13:36 |
| ouroumov_ | the 17.04 Beta2 I mean | 13:36 |
| alkisg | Sure; it's just as bad there imho | 13:36 |
| alkisg | They could do it graphically, with a dialog; or on shutdown, like windows "installing updates" does | 13:36 |
| alkisg | But not behind the scenes | 13:36 |
| ouroumov_ | alkisg, I'm pointing that out because for all I know this might be part of the requirement to qualify as official ubuntu derivative, in which case I'd retract my objection | 13:37 |
| alkisg | I would file the objection against ubuntu as well :D | 13:38 |
| ouroumov_ | alkisg, you mean in the form of a bug report? :p | 13:43 |
| alkisg | Yup, why not | 13:46 |
| alkisg | E.g. "trying to install software from gnome-software doesn't work because apt is installing security updates behind the scenes" | 13:46 |
| alkisg | It's a real issue... they should put support for this in multiple places before landing it | 13:46 |
| ouroumov_ | flexiondotorg, wrt this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-settings/+bug/1605887 is it normal that the package ubuntu-mate-settings does not appear to be in Zesty? (according to apt-cache policy and apt-cache search) | 14:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1605887 in ubuntu-mate-settings (Ubuntu Yakkety) "Can't change Firefox home page in Ubuntu MATE" [High,Triaged] | 14:01 |
| alkisg | ouroumov_, apt show ubuntu-mate-default-settings | grep ^Source | 14:26 |
| alkisg | ubuntu-mate-settings is the source package for the ubuntu-mate-default-settings binary package | 14:26 |
| jbicha | flexiondotorg: on Windows, it worked when I used the line from https://developer.mozilla.org/Firefox/Enterprise_deployment | 14:27 |
| jbicha | defaultPref("browser.startup.homepage","data:text/plain,browser.startup.homepage=http://home.example.com"); | 14:28 |
| jbicha | but it's not working for me in Ubuntu | 14:28 |
| ouroumov_ | alkisg, ok | 14:31 |
| flexiondotorg | jbicha I think this is a bug. | 15:05 |
| sage__ | Hi I installed Ubuntu Mate yesterday and I really like the interface | 18:09 |
| el3phanten | sage__: me too | 18:11 |
| el3phanten | on two computers | 18:11 |
| el3phanten | and it works. Been distro hopping for a while | 18:12 |
| el3phanten | takes 2 seconds to boot | 18:12 |
| el3phanten | sage__: with copiz as window manager | 18:13 |
| el3phanten | compiz* | 18:13 |
| sage__ | it takes me awhile too boot but I dont have the BIOS password | 18:15 |
| sage__ | I bought it used and the shop that sold it to me is tracking it down | 18:16 |
| el3phanten | ok. ssd? | 18:16 |
| sage__ | hdd | 18:17 |
| el3phanten | ok yea, I have ssd on both of my computers. Thats why my boot is so fast | 18:17 |
| sage__ | I have a 2013 Thinkpad edge | 18:17 |
| el3phanten | but kubuntu did not boot that fast, and opensuse with kde, eiter | 18:18 |
| el3phanten | so ubuntu mate boots faster than both | 18:18 |
| el3phanten | I have ideapad y700 | 18:19 |
| sage__ | it has a slot for an mSATA ssd, I'm going to buy a 32 gig boot disk | 18:19 |
| el3phanten | no slot for m.2? | 18:20 |
| el3phanten | probably not if its from 2013 | 18:21 |
| sage__ | yeah its just a regular msata | 18:21 |
| sage__ | but thats ok with me | 18:21 |
| el3phanten | yea it will boot faster | 18:22 |
| el3phanten | I have used ubuntu mate before. And now turned back | 18:22 |
| sage__ | I really like the drop down menus | 18:23 |
| sage__ | it's easier to stay on task (I have ADD) | 18:27 |
| paulgr | someone you be to México? | 19:55 |
| paulgr | hi what's up? | 19:55 |
| paulgr | or someone chat in spanish? | 19:55 |
| sage__ | Puedo hablar en espanol | 20:04 |
| el3phanten | Puedo traductor de Google | 20:11 |
| el3phanten | :D | 20:11 |
| DarkPsydeLord | paulgr, im from mexico | 20:32 |
| DarkPsydeLord | paulgr, also theres #ubuntu-es | 20:33 |
| paulgr | hi :D | 20:57 |
| paulgr | Dark de donde eres? | 20:57 |
| paulgr | hola jaja alguien que sepa hablar español? | 20:58 |
| DarkPsydeLord | de león vente a #Ubuntu-es | 21:04 |
| DarkPsydeLord | paulgr, si sabes como unirte a otros canales irc? | 21:15 |
| paulgr | no Dx soy nuevo en ubuntu | 21:15 |
| paulgr | me dejaron una practica de Concurrente y paralela de MPI y me dijo la profa que necesitaba ubuntu | 21:16 |
| paulgr | asi que instale Mate porque es mas lijera que la normal, pero se ve interesante la comunidad, estudio Ing en Cs. de la Computacion en la BUAP en Puebla Mexico :D | 21:17 |
| DarkPsydeLord | ok que cliente usas de irc? hexchat? | 21:21 |
| paulgr | si | 21:21 |
| paulgr | exacto xD | 21:21 |
| paulgr | ese | 21:21 |
| DarkPsydeLord | arriba donde dice server le pones join a channel y escribes ubuntu-es | 21:21 |
| DarkPsydeLord | y llegaras al canal de ubuntu en español | 21:22 |
| paulgr | gracais ya pude xD voy a andar por alla | 21:22 |
| mate|701 | Is anyone around? | 22:27 |
| mate|701 | I guess not. | 22:28 |
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