[05:44] how to install steam from terminal? [05:44] sudo get apt-steam??? [05:47] sudo apt-get install steam === PostreAFK is now known as Postre [09:35] what are the pros of ubuntu mate over ubuntu.. [09:37] Lower system requirements/footprint, traditional (yet flexible/customisable) user interface + advantages of being built on, and part of, Ubuntu [09:42] I am using ubuntu on a hp notebook with intel i3, 4 gb ram without graphics card. It feels a bit slower.. [09:42] Can it be improved with ubuntu mate? [09:43] I don't have the figures off the top of my head, but if you are using up a lot of RAM, then MATE may help [09:44] You can add the MATE DE to an existing Ubuntu install - you just need to install the desktop package and at login change the desktop environment to use (Unity or MATE) [09:45] Would you please help me with minimum partition sizes while creating manual partitioning for installing ubuntu mate... [09:45] I am dual booting with windows 10 [09:46] Do I really need to create swap partition...what should be the minimum size... [09:47] for root partition the smallest I would go is 16GB [09:48] smaller possible _my systems with clean install and additional packages (libreoffice updates etc) use 6.4GB [09:50] you can skip a swap partition - you can use a swapfile to avoid the extra partitioning needs - think 17.04 will be swapfile by defualt (I'm focused on LTS, so someone more familiar shld be able to confirm/deny that) [09:50] I have given 15 GB to root and 5 gb home and 5 gb for swap. [09:51] does it qualify for a good enough system for begining with linux [09:52] Yes - i3 & 4GB shld be sufficent for light desktop needs - i.e. not running a lot of apps at the same time and expecting to be able to swap between them quickly [09:53] note that web browsers tend to be the biggest users of RAM - lots of tabs etc will cause high RAM consumption [09:53] not unusual to see FF or Chrome consume 1GB+ of RAM [09:55] I say this with hesitation, so pls be aware there are additional risks involved - you can just have a single partition where root & home reside [09:55] flexiondotorg: see https://launchpadlibrarian.net/315110326/ubuntu-gnome-default-settings_17.04.2_17.04.3.diff.gz [09:55] good morning [09:55] How can I swap swap partition with the swap file and what should be size of swap file... [09:55] jbicha Hi :-) [09:56] so a single partition & a swapfile (which you cld grow/shrink to your needs) with 20GB of space would give you a flexible amount of space [09:56] Thanks for sharing! [09:58] I have created three partitions 15 gb root, 5gb home, 5gb swap...now what should I change.? [09:58] If you have already created them, I suggest just leaving AS-IS [09:58] well, Ubuntu GNOME borrowed the homepage customization from Ubuntu MATE [10:00] flexiondotorg: I also fixed LP: #1681351 for Ubuntu GNOME today [10:00] Launchpad bug 1681351 in ubuntu-gnome-meta (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu GNOME does not install build-essential by default" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1681351 [10:01] mate|70656: [10:01] and you saw https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2017-March/004070.html right? [10:01] last minute seed changes are uncomfortable but I figured these additions are useful [10:02] jbicha What should build-essentials be installed by default though? [10:02] there will need to be a zesty respin anyway for ubiquity [10:03] in the bug report, I pointed to someone who complained about it being useful for installing proprietary wifi drivers [10:03] you're welcome to leave things as they are for zesty though if you want [10:03] jbicha Ubuntu MATE has the exFAT stuff seeded. [10:04] As for Wireless drivers, we have a section in Ubuntu MATE Welcome to assist with that that pulls in the required tool post install. [10:04] Out image is quite flabby :-) [10:04] ok, so you're ahead of us! :) [10:04] I'm trying to keep it on a diet ;-) [10:05] That Firefox fix is much appreciated, thank you! [10:19] jbicha: so next Ubuntu will start off from ubuntu-gnome? [10:19] (hi all btw) [10:20] There' won't be an ubuntu-gnome spin anymore, it'll just be called ubuntu? [10:31] alkisg: Ubuntu GNOME will be making an announcement later this week to hopefully answer some of the bigger questions :) [10:49] Cool; I'll wait to read it :) [11:08] Hi. How do I set mouse and touchpad speed independently? [11:08] ubuntu mate 16.04 === Postre is now known as PostreAFK === ubuntu-mate_ is now known as Hendi === Hendi is now known as HendiMan [11:58] Hello, does anyone know how to lower mouse sensitivity beyond the gui tool? [11:58] I have tried google but many suggestions do not work [12:01] HendiMan: http://askubuntu.com/questions/205676/how-to-change-mouse-speed-sensitivity did you try this one? [12:04] yes, no luck [12:06] works for me. Set the "Device Accel Constant Deceleration" to a higher number [12:07] I just had to do this to set my mouse and touchpad speed independent [12:11] my mouse does not have that option in --list-props [13:24] flexiondotorg, updates settings on my bare-metal 17.04 Beta 2 install are set to download and install automatically for security updates. Is that normal? I though the default policy was "don't do anything automatically by default" [13:31] https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/automatic-updates.html [13:31] Installing security updates is the correct behaviour. [13:33] flexiondotorg, I'm not disputing that, but usually the desktop user gets a say in when to do it. This changed in 16.04 when we discovered the missing dependency unattended-upgrades, and back then adding that package automatically selected that option, but afaik this shouldn't be default. [13:34] The very annoying part of this is, `apt-get update` => can't because of dpkg lock [13:34] Then `killall apt` or stuff like that => broken packages because it was installing [13:35] IMHO it shouldn't be the default until it's properly displayed to the users, that apt is working behind the scenes [13:35] I've seen many users get issues because of that. So security updates are supposed to help, but break systems instead. [13:36] alkisg, flexiondotorg : apparently vanilla Ubuntu also uses that setting. [13:36] the 17.04 Beta2 I mean [13:36] Sure; it's just as bad there imho [13:36] They could do it graphically, with a dialog; or on shutdown, like windows "installing updates" does [13:36] But not behind the scenes [13:37] alkisg, I'm pointing that out because for all I know this might be part of the requirement to qualify as official ubuntu derivative, in which case I'd retract my objection [13:38] I would file the objection against ubuntu as well :D [13:43] alkisg, you mean in the form of a bug report? :p [13:46] Yup, why not [13:46] E.g. "trying to install software from gnome-software doesn't work because apt is installing security updates behind the scenes" [13:46] It's a real issue... they should put support for this in multiple places before landing it [14:01] flexiondotorg, wrt this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-settings/+bug/1605887 is it normal that the package ubuntu-mate-settings does not appear to be in Zesty? (according to apt-cache policy and apt-cache search) [14:01] Launchpad bug 1605887 in ubuntu-mate-settings (Ubuntu Yakkety) "Can't change Firefox home page in Ubuntu MATE" [High,Triaged] [14:26] ouroumov_, apt show ubuntu-mate-default-settings | grep ^Source [14:26] ubuntu-mate-settings is the source package for the ubuntu-mate-default-settings binary package [14:27] flexiondotorg: on Windows, it worked when I used the line from https://developer.mozilla.org/Firefox/Enterprise_deployment [14:28] defaultPref("browser.startup.homepage","data:text/plain,browser.startup.homepage=http://home.example.com"); [14:28] but it's not working for me in Ubuntu [14:31] alkisg, ok [15:05] jbicha I think this is a bug. [18:09] Hi I installed Ubuntu Mate yesterday and I really like the interface [18:11] sage__: me too [18:11] on two computers [18:12] and it works. Been distro hopping for a while [18:12] takes 2 seconds to boot [18:13] sage__: with copiz as window manager [18:13] compiz* [18:15] it takes me awhile too boot but I dont have the BIOS password [18:16] I bought it used and the shop that sold it to me is tracking it down [18:16] ok. ssd? [18:17] hdd [18:17] ok yea, I have ssd on both of my computers. Thats why my boot is so fast [18:17] I have a 2013 Thinkpad edge [18:18] but kubuntu did not boot that fast, and opensuse with kde, eiter [18:18] so ubuntu mate boots faster than both [18:19] I have ideapad y700 [18:19] it has a slot for an mSATA ssd, I'm going to buy a 32 gig boot disk [18:20] no slot for m.2? [18:21] probably not if its from 2013 [18:21] yeah its just a regular msata [18:21] but thats ok with me [18:22] yea it will boot faster [18:22] I have used ubuntu mate before. And now turned back [18:23] I really like the drop down menus [18:27] it's easier to stay on task (I have ADD) [19:55] someone you be to México? [19:55] hi what's up? [19:55] or someone chat in spanish? [20:04] Puedo hablar en espanol [20:11] Puedo traductor de Google [20:11] :D [20:32] paulgr, im from mexico [20:33] paulgr, also theres #ubuntu-es [20:57] hi :D [20:57] Dark de donde eres? [20:58] hola jaja alguien que sepa hablar español? [21:04] de león vente a #Ubuntu-es [21:15] paulgr, si sabes como unirte a otros canales irc? [21:15] no Dx soy nuevo en ubuntu [21:16] me dejaron una practica de Concurrente y paralela de MPI y me dijo la profa que necesitaba ubuntu [21:17] asi que instale Mate porque es mas lijera que la normal, pero se ve interesante la comunidad, estudio Ing en Cs. de la Computacion en la BUAP en Puebla Mexico :D [21:21] ok que cliente usas de irc? hexchat? [21:21] si [21:21] exacto xD [21:21] ese [21:21] arriba donde dice server le pones join a channel y escribes ubuntu-es [21:22] y llegaras al canal de ubuntu en español [21:22] gracais ya pude xD voy a andar por alla [22:27] Is anyone around? [22:28] I guess not.