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| rbasak | cpaelzer: o/ | 14:58 |
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| rbasak | cpaelzer: did you announce your application to devel-permissions@? I don't see it. | 14:58 |
| cpaelzer | o/ | 14:58 |
| cpaelzer | crap | 14:59 |
| cpaelzer | of course not I was so busy prepping my PTO to not miss any responsibilities | 14:59 |
| cpaelzer | I might just resched to next time then :-/ | 14:59 |
| cyphermox | bah | 14:59 |
| cpaelzer | you tell me once you are all around | 14:59 |
| cyphermox | rbasak: do we care? do you need more time to review the application? | 14:59 |
| cyphermox | otoh, we might not have quorum, people are busy | 14:59 |
| sil2100 | o/ | 14:59 |
| rbasak | No need to reschedule or anything. | 15:00 |
| rbasak | It's just useful for the archive, that's all. For example in finding what we did last time in a future application. | 15:00 |
| cyphermox | yep | 15:01 |
| bdmurray | I'm here but here but need to leave in 1 hour | 15:01 |
| cyphermox | ok, seems we have quorum then | 15:01 |
| cpaelzer | I'll send one now just in case, you'll tell me if we need to move the decision then | 15:01 |
| cyphermox | #startmeeting DMB | 15:01 |
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| cpaelzer | writing already in other window | 15:01 |
| cyphermox | #topic Review of previous action items | 15:01 |
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| cyphermox | rbasak to add slashd to the new SRU-UPLOADERS team (carried-over, pending TB action) | 15:01 |
| cyphermox | what is the status with that, still pending? | 15:02 |
| rbasak | Still pending a TB action. | 15:02 |
| rbasak | They seemed to have missed it in their last meeting. | 15:02 |
| cyphermox | do they have a bug for that? | 15:03 |
| cyphermox | oh ok | 15:03 |
| rbasak | Their next meeting is tomorrow I believe. | 15:03 |
| rbasak | So I intend to chase again then. | 15:03 |
| cyphermox | ack | 15:03 |
| rbasak | Indeed there is a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/1674440 | 15:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1674440 in ubuntu-community "[TB/DMB] ACL for ~ubuntu-sru-developers" [Undecided,New] | 15:03 |
| cyphermox | I'll skip ~mapreri's, I saw the bug and it's still open | 15:03 |
| rbasak | Unfortuntely their process it to look for bugs there assigned to the tech board, and only they have persmission to do that it seems. | 15:03 |
| bdmurray | rbasak: can you ask them about that tomorrow too? | 15:03 |
| cyphermox | hehe | 15:03 |
| cyphermox | I can go to that meeting | 15:04 |
| rbasak | bdmurray: ack | 15:04 |
| cyphermox | I already watch them | 15:04 |
| cyphermox | next: rbasak to sort Aron's request | 15:04 |
| mapreri | wow | 15:04 |
| rbasak | I'm sorry Aron, I've failed at that. | 15:04 |
| rbasak | Please carry over. | 15:04 |
| cyphermox | zug zug! | 15:04 |
| cyphermox | everything else is marked done | 15:05 |
| rbasak | Or did someone else take that in the end? | 15:05 |
| rbasak | I don't recall having it as an action for me. | 15:05 |
| mapreri | Question: shouldn't those bugs be at the very least subscribe the TB? | 15:05 |
| rbasak | In any case, I'll sort out what's going on. | 15:05 |
| mapreri | s/be// | 15:05 |
| cyphermox | rbasak: I'm just relaying what's on the agenda :/ | 15:05 |
| rbasak | mapreri: perhaps. I did email the tech board directly with the bugs. | 15:05 |
| rbasak | cyphermox: understood :) | 15:05 |
| cyphermox | do you want me to look at it instead? | 15:05 |
| rbasak | I can't remember what it is. | 15:06 |
| mapreri | oh well, fine | 15:06 |
| cyphermox | ok | 15:06 |
| cyphermox | mapreri: we'll pester them tomorrow :) | 15:06 |
| mapreri | I could probably just get more involved in more core stuff and get core-dev :P | 15:06 |
| cyphermox | or if I catch a second, I'll ask someone directly | 15:06 |
| rbasak | mapreri: please do :-) | 15:06 |
| cyphermox | ok; moving on | 15:06 |
| cyphermox | I'm going "fast" because bdmurray is on a time limit; and we have lots to review | 15:07 |
| cyphermox | #topic Package Set/Per Package Uploader Applications | 15:07 |
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| cpaelzer | rbasak: cyphermox: FYI - mail sent | 15:07 |
| cyphermox | ta | 15:07 |
| cyphermox | #subtopic Christian Ehrhardt's multipath-tools PPU; and postgres PPU | 15:09 |
| cpaelzer | and MOTU? | 15:09 |
| cyphermox | we shoudl review PPU separately | 15:09 |
| cpaelzer | or is that a seperate chunk of deciding in terms of PPU | 15:09 |
| cpaelzer | ok | 15:09 |
| cyphermox | ^ I think given the various applications though, both PPU at the same time seems like an optimisation. | 15:09 |
| cpaelzer | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChristianEhrhardt/MultipathToolsPPUApplication | 15:09 |
| bdmurray | Speaking of optimization I'm ready to vote | 15:09 |
| cpaelzer | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChristianEhrhardt/PostgresPPUApplication | 15:09 |
| cyphermox | now we're talkin'. | 15:10 |
| rbasak | I have the pleasure of working with cpaelzer. I don't remember being asked for an endorsement, but he has mine for all three applications. | 15:10 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: I didn't ask to not compromise you here for the decision | 15:10 |
| cpaelzer | cyphermox: I asked because he is Mr. Multipath | 15:10 |
| rbasak | Fair enough | 15:10 |
| rbasak | You're getting one here anyway :-P | 15:10 |
| cyphermox | cpaelzer: fwiw you should not feel like I "own" multipath-tools | 15:10 |
| rbasak | cpaelzer is diligent in his work, always asks when unsure, and his uploads are of very high quality. | 15:10 |
| cyphermox | then we | 15:10 |
| rbasak | So I'm happy to endorse him for all three applications, and I have no further questions and am ready to vote. | 15:11 |
| cyphermox | uggh | 15:11 |
| cyphermox | then we're all ready to vote? | 15:11 |
| cyphermox | sil2100 ? | 15:11 |
| sil2100 | I think I don't have any questions myself | 15:11 |
| cyphermox | cpaelzer: I do have one. | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | I may have one question | 15:11 |
| sil2100 | Since I also had some experience in reviewing cpaelzer's uploads from the SRU queue | 15:11 |
| cyphermox | ok | 15:11 |
| cyphermox | bdmurray: you first. | 15:12 |
| sil2100 | (and sprinting) | 15:12 |
| bdmurray | pitti says that there were some regressions in the last round of postgresql SRUs. How can that be avoided going forward? | 15:12 |
| cpaelzer | yeah that was "fun" for certain degrees of fun - pitti promised "there would never be some" and just on the first we took over we broke the rule :-) | 15:13 |
| cpaelzer | for the details that was on the MRE updates | 15:13 |
| cpaelzer | the stable releases changed parts that primarily affected testcases | 15:13 |
| cpaelzer | bdmurray: on these in particular there is not much to prevent them other than testing in advance which we did this time as well | 15:14 |
| cpaelzer | we knew about them from the dep8 tests on bileto IIRC | 15:14 |
| cpaelzer | and I worked through the dependent packages to adapt testcases were needed | 15:14 |
| rbasak | Did these regressions hit the updates pocket? It's not clear to me from the bug. | 15:14 |
| cpaelzer | it was in some sense dep8 only regressions rbasak | 15:14 |
| cpaelzer | so it was stopped in -proposed | 15:14 |
| cpaelzer | we analyzed and cleaned up | 15:15 |
| rbasak | Ah OK, thanks. | 15:15 |
| cpaelzer | and from there things become green and good again | 15:15 |
| cpaelzer | bdmurray: there is one thing we can improve on thou | 15:15 |
| cpaelzer | which this time was less optimal since this was our first take over from pittei (our = nacc + me) | 15:15 |
| cpaelzer | we could have started about 2 days earlier to see it sooner | 15:15 |
| cpaelzer | but that was all I'd think on this special case | 15:16 |
| cyphermox | cpaelzer: how did you get so tall? | 15:16 |
| cyphermox | cpaelzer: or how come am I so short? | 15:16 |
| bdmurray | cyphermox: I think its too late for you | 15:16 |
| cyphermox | ;) | 15:16 |
| bdmurray | cpaelzer: Okay, thanks | 15:16 |
| cpaelzer | cyphermox: honestly - stretch while going to sleeping and wishing to grow | 15:16 |
| cyphermox | ready to vote? | 15:16 |
| cyphermox | bdmurray has a point, too late for me. | 15:16 |
| cyphermox | #vote cpaelzer to have PPU rights for multipath-tools | 15:17 |
| cpaelzer | cyphermox: as a team we are just the right size on average | 15:17 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: cpaelzer to have PPU rights for multipath-tools | 15:17 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) | 15:17 |
| rbasak | +1 | 15:17 |
| meetingology | +1 received from rbasak | 15:17 |
| bdmurray | +1 | 15:17 |
| meetingology | +1 received from bdmurray | 15:17 |
| cyphermox | (specifically multipath-tools, then I'll do the other | 15:17 |
| cyphermox | +1 | 15:17 |
| meetingology | +1 received from cyphermox | 15:17 |
| bdmurray | sil2100: ? | 15:18 |
| sil2100 | +1 | 15:18 |
| meetingology | +1 received from sil2100 | 15:18 |
| cyphermox | #endvote | 15:19 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: cpaelzer to have PPU rights for multipath-tools | 15:19 |
| meetingology | Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 15:19 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 15:19 |
| cyphermox | #vote cpaelzer to have PPU rights for postgres | 15:19 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: cpaelzer to have PPU rights for postgres | 15:19 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) | 15:19 |
| rbasak | +1 | 15:19 |
| meetingology | +1 received from rbasak | 15:19 |
| bdmurray | +1 | 15:19 |
| meetingology | +1 received from bdmurray | 15:19 |
| sil2100 | +1 | 15:20 |
| meetingology | +1 received from sil2100 | 15:20 |
| cyphermox | +1 | 15:21 |
| meetingology | +1 received from cyphermox | 15:21 |
| cyphermox | #endvote | 15:21 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: cpaelzer to have PPU rights for postgres | 15:21 |
| meetingology | Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 15:21 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 15:21 |
| cyphermox | ok, next up is Robert Jennings | 15:21 |
| rcj | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/rcj/PerPackageUploadUbuntuCloud | 15:21 |
| cyphermox | #topic Robert Jennings PPU application for Ubuntu Cloud packageset | 15:21 |
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| cyphermox | rcj: please introduce yourself :) | 15:21 |
| rcj | Hello. I've been working on delivery of public cloud images for 3 years and doing packing-related work for those images like open-vm-tools and livecd-rootfs (not in this packageset) | 15:22 |
| rcj | and drop-in fixes when I find them | 15:23 |
| rcj | I'm applying for PPU rights for UbuntuCloud to service those packages related to image delivery. | 15:24 |
| rbasak | The last sponsored upload you made to this package was 2016-04-25, right? | 15:24 |
| rbasak | to this packageset | 15:24 |
| rcj | That is correct | 15:24 |
| rbasak | Is there any reason you haven't uploaded more recently? Eg. no need, or others have been doing it? And how often do you expect you'll need to upload in the near future? | 15:25 |
| rcj | A lot of our work is geared toward the infrastructure for delivery. But we have also grown our team and spread out the packaging work to train others. | 15:26 |
| rcj | I expect that uploads will increase however in the near future due to changing workload. | 15:26 |
| sil2100 | rcj: any reason you want to have the upload rights now instead after doing some sponsored uploads? | 15:27 |
| rbasak | Also AFAICT arges sponsored you last in 2015, and that's the only sponsoring endorser on this application. | 15:28 |
| rcj | sil2100: I am looking to help out with uploads to provide coverage for the public cloud team | 15:29 |
| sil2100 | We usually prefer that people get upload rights granted after they already have some experience through packages that are sponsored by others | 15:29 |
| rcj | My sponsored uploads are not as current as I'd like, yes | 15:32 |
| cyphermox | fwiw, based on the uploads I've reviewed, I'm +0 on this application; I think there isn't much more necessary to make me +1; but there are quite few uploads in general | 15:32 |
| cyphermox | that said; the cloud packageset is special in that AFAIK, it doesn't change much | 15:32 |
| rcj | And packages like walinuxagent are specific to the environments we directly support | 15:33 |
| cyphermox | cloud-init though has been +1d by smoser. | 15:34 |
| rbasak | I'm afraid I'm currently -1 | 15:34 |
| rbasak | We haven't gotten to asking you questions about general Ubuntu development knowledge. | 15:35 |
| rbasak | But at a minimum I usually expect to see recent sponsored uploads. | 15:35 |
| rbasak | Is there any reason this case is exceptional? Are you having any difficulty in finding sponsors, for example? | 15:36 |
| rcj | We are having some troubles and I was asked to bring this forward. When my uploads were more current I had been told to hold off. | 15:38 |
| cyphermox | rcj: how come? seems to me like you could ask just about anyone in your team. | 15:38 |
| cyphermox | (such as me, I sponsor lots of stuff) | 15:38 |
| rcj | cyphermox: Yes, including the larger team helps. The desire is to have an additional person with PPU on the cloud delivery team as well. | 15:40 |
| cyphermox | right | 15:41 |
| rbasak | That's definitely a worthwhile goal. | 15:41 |
| rbasak | But the way to achieve that is to have you work with a sponsor for a while, so that we can be confident that you understand the details for this particular set of packages. | 15:42 |
| rcj | I can take this back, work on additional sponsored uploads, and bring it forward with further endorsements. | 15:42 |
| rbasak | I think even one endorsement is fine, if that sponsor has been working with you closely and recently on a representative sample of the work. | 15:43 |
| rcj | Thank you for the feedback. | 15:44 |
| cyphermox | rcj: thanks for coming up rcj | 15:44 |
| cyphermox | rcj: as previously mentioned, I'm always available to sponsor uploads | 15:44 |
| cyphermox | there are no Contributing Developer applications; so moving on | 15:45 |
| rcj | cyphermox: Thank you. | 15:45 |
| cyphermox | #topic MOTU applications | 15:45 |
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| cyphermox | #subtopic cpaelzer's MOTU application | 15:45 |
| bdmurray | rcj: I'm happy to be your second choice too | 15:45 |
| cpaelzer | sorry, was trying to discuss dpek/libvirt issues - back with you | 15:45 |
| cpaelzer | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChristianEhrhardt/MOTU-nis-pg-more-Application | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | essentially I got to file the request for the postgres tools around PG itself, but it pops up in many regular tasks | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | nis was one example but this is so old I hope nobody has to touch it too often | 15:47 |
| cpaelzer | but in general MOTU things showed up in our server bug triage sometimes | 15:47 |
| cpaelzer | when bugs start at server packages but solutions grow out of there | 15:47 |
| cpaelzer | also on bug squashing day activities I hit a few | 15:47 |
| cpaelzer | and finally on patch piloting | 15:47 |
| cpaelzer | which by the needs a calendar update | 15:47 |
| rbasak | I recall a few of these. | 15:48 |
| cpaelzer | is anybody taking at least the scheduling over from daniel? | 15:48 |
| rbasak | As well as pg-*, there's also dovecot-antispam for example. | 15:48 |
| cpaelzer | right that as well | 15:48 |
| rbasak | So I think it's about time we just gave cpaelzer MOTU so he doesn't need to keep getting exceptions. | 15:48 |
| cpaelzer | as I said it seems the server-work grows out of the server upload set the deeper I get into working with all of this | 15:48 |
| cpaelzer | and this lead me to this MOTU applications with these explicit examples, but it might jsut as well another package next week | 15:49 |
| cpaelzer | the former PPUs where core-dev + personal - so they didn't apply as MOTU exception | 15:49 |
| cyphermox | what about some of the sponsored packages; do you have endorsements from xnox or nacc to go along with them? | 15:50 |
| cyphermox | rbasak: same story; why not write an endorsement for cpaelzer? | 15:50 |
| * nacc wasn't asked or forgot if he was :) | 15:50 | |
| cpaelzer | I didn't collect all of them for endorsement - we might ping them if you want | 15:51 |
| nacc | happy to do it, but probably not during the meeting right now | 15:51 |
| bdmurray | i thought there were some endorsements on his core dev app | 15:51 |
| cpaelzer | bdmurray: yes, there were from when we downgraded it about a year ago | 15:51 |
| cpaelzer | I also started collecting core-dev reasoning bug work, but the list isn't long enough yet to show up here with that yet | 15:51 |
| cyphermox | well, in that case, why aren't we reviewing a core-dev application? | 15:51 |
| cpaelzer | you can decide the track record or not, I can paste the list of this year | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | I only started in late January | 15:52 |
| rbasak | cyphermox: I wasn't asked, but I'm happy to provide the same IRC endorsement as I did above. | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | bug 1675770 lvm more than 8 stripes | 15:52 |
| ubottu | bug 1675770 in lvm2 (Ubuntu) "lvcreate cannot use more than 8 stripes" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1675770 | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | bug 1668093 openssh ssh-keyscan -H clobber | 15:52 |
| ubottu | bug 1668093 in openssh (Ubuntu Yakkety) "ssh-keygen -H corrupts already hashed entries" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1668093 | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | bug 1670745 openssh ssh-keyscan port | 15:52 |
| ubottu | bug 1670745 in openssh (Ubuntu Yakkety) "ssh-keyscan : bad host signature when using port option" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1670745 | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | bug 1673491 libnl crash | 15:52 |
| ubottu | bug 1673491 in libvirt (Ubuntu) "[Zesty] libnl3 Segmentation fault in sriov environments" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1673491 | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | bug 1630516 logrotate fails to overwrite | 15:52 |
| ubottu | bug 1630516 in logrotate (Ubuntu Yakkety) "Logrotate doesn't clean old system logs, allowing them to fill the disk" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1630516 | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | in case you want to check a few | 15:52 |
| rbasak | I'm talked to cpaelzer about core dev before. | 15:52 |
| rbasak | Back then I wasn't sure if he had enough wide ranging stuff. | 15:53 |
| cyphermox | rbasak: I feel we're wasting time if there are already sufficient endorsements for core-dev and the work to show for it; then we might as well review a core-dev application; if all the DMB members here agree. | 15:53 |
| rbasak | I don't think cpaelzer has dealt with everything a core dev might have to deal with, for example a transition. | 15:54 |
| rbasak | In the past, that was holding me back from recommending that he apply for core dev. | 15:54 |
| cyphermox | ok, in that case, are we ready to vote? | 15:54 |
| rbasak | But I think I've reached the stage now that I'd be happy to endorse him anyway. He's very active in uploading, not being able to upload stuff tends to block him, and he's careful and diligent. | 15:54 |
| rbasak | I'm sure he knows more about library ABI matters than I do, and I supposedly have handled transitions. | 15:55 |
| cyphermox | we need to try to hold everyone to the same standard though; if anybody else had not done a transition, would you support a core-dev application? | 15:55 |
| cpaelzer | DPDK forces me to do so on that end | 15:55 |
| cpaelzer | btw I brought the hopefully final fix to that upstream - no next merge we will finally have saner ABI in that | 15:56 |
| cyphermox | given time constraints, we should vote now if nobody has questions | 15:56 |
| rbasak | No further questions. | 15:56 |
| cpaelzer | and I'll soon work with nacc on PG transition into aa so I'll get guided through my first one | 15:56 |
| rbasak | Sorry, I missed your question | 15:57 |
| cyphermox | #vote cpaelzer to join MOTU | 15:57 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: cpaelzer to join MOTU | 15:57 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) | 15:57 |
| rbasak | +1 | 15:57 |
| meetingology | +1 received from rbasak | 15:57 |
| cyphermox | +1 | 15:57 |
| meetingology | +1 received from cyphermox | 15:57 |
| cyphermox | bdmurray: ? | 15:57 |
| cyphermox | he might have had to leave | 15:58 |
| rbasak | if anybody else had not done a transition, would you support a core-dev application> yes, if there was enough material to weigh up to a +1. | 15:58 |
| sil2100 | I think I saw sufficient for MOTU, so: | 15:58 |
| sil2100 | +1 | 15:58 |
| meetingology | +1 received from sil2100 | 15:58 |
| cyphermox | I pinged infinity, just in case. | 15:59 |
| rbasak | While we're waiting... | 15:59 |
| cyphermox | yeah? | 16:00 |
| rbasak | cpaelzer tends to fix things that he touches, and I haven't seen evidence that he's ever made an error that an existing core dev wouldn't make. | 16:00 |
| bdmurray | sorry, +1 for MOTU | 16:00 |
| cyphermox | cool | 16:00 |
| rbasak | And he's very active across the archive. | 16:00 |
| cyphermox | rbasak: I know | 16:00 |
| cyphermox | at this point it's more trying to finish the meeting than anything else given that bdmurray could only stay for an hour | 16:00 |
| rbasak | So I think that perhaps outweighs my "no transition" point in a way that other applicants haven't convinced me in the past. | 16:01 |
| rbasak | Sure | 16:01 |
| cyphermox | +1 | 16:01 |
| meetingology | +1 received from cyphermox | 16:01 |
| cyphermox | #endvote | 16:01 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: cpaelzer to join MOTU | 16:01 |
| meetingology | Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 16:01 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 16:01 |
| rbasak | The 4th was from bdmurray and hadn't registered with meetingology I think? | 16:01 |
| cyphermox | (bdmurray's +1 is above but didn't register because it wasn't the first thing on the line) | 16:01 |
| bdmurray | yeah, my bad | 16:01 |
| rbasak | I'd be happy to take the post-meeting actions for cpaelzer | 16:01 |
| rbasak | Perhaps easiest as he's on my team? | 16:01 |
| cyphermox | ack | 16:01 |
| cyphermox | [ACTION] rbasak to handle cpaelzer's upload rights modifications | 16:02 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to handle cpaelzer's upload rights modifications | 16:02 |
| cpaelzer | thanks everybody | 16:02 |
| cyphermox | no SRU or core-dev applications | 16:02 |
| rbasak | I had a couple of items for AOB. | 16:02 |
| cyphermox | anythign outstanding on the mailing list first? | 16:02 |
| rbasak | Ah, that was one of those. | 16:02 |
| cyphermox | we can make it AOB | 16:03 |
| cyphermox | #topic AOB | 16:03 |
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| rbasak | Iulian Udrea "Reactivation of ~iulian's membership in ~motu" | 16:03 |
| bdmurray | I've got to get moving but will read scrollback. | 16:03 |
| rbasak | Does this need a majority vote? | 16:03 |
| rbasak | bdmurray: thank you for attending! | 16:03 |
| cyphermox | does what need? | 16:03 |
| cyphermox | iulian's request? | 16:03 |
| rbasak | Yes | 16:03 |
| sil2100 | Do we have a policy for such things? | 16:03 |
| sil2100 | I know for short deprecations we just 'did it' | 16:04 |
| cyphermox | I think we should just do it | 16:04 |
| rbasak | Do we know how long his break is? | 16:04 |
| rbasak | I think we should at the least understand when and why the membership ceased. | 16:04 |
| cyphermox | * Iulian Udrea (~iulian) expired from motu (on 2017-01-04) | 16:05 |
| cyphermox | I don't know whether he has core-dev before that expired earlier, but he's also still in motu-release (assuming this is still useful) | 16:06 |
| rbasak | Ah | 16:06 |
| rbasak | That's fine then I guess. | 16:06 |
| cyphermox | I also do have AOB, but it's a FYI only | 16:06 |
| rbasak | My other team was on my email "Ordering of decisions to create a packageset and a first uploader" | 16:06 |
| cyphermox | ~langpack-uploader was showing up in the team monitoring emails; I fixed that to be skipped | 16:06 |
| rbasak | I'd like to achieve consensus on that, but nobody has replied. | 16:07 |
| rbasak | My other item | 16:07 |
| cyphermox | I think doing the work doesn't need to happen until it really does (ie there is an uploader), but we can still vote and approve a packageset before there are uploaders. | 16:07 |
| rbasak | Define "approve a packageset" please. | 16:08 |
| cyphermox | voting for it; deciding that it makes sense. | 16:08 |
| rbasak | For Budgie, would that mean "#vote A packageset defined as "Ubuntu Budgie" will be created? | 16:08 |
| rbasak | " | 16:08 |
| cyphermox | rbasak: I don't think that one is a good example | 16:09 |
| rbasak | Or anything more extensive? | 16:09 |
| rbasak | Well, that's the one where we ended up in a twist. | 16:09 |
| cyphermox | the Ubuntu Budgie packageset should be an automatic seed-based one. | 16:09 |
| cyphermox | otherwise a "PPU" kind of packageset for a subset of those, which is what David was asking for previously. | 16:09 |
| cyphermox | in that case, it probably needs that that decision be informed by both what will go in that packageset initially, what it's used for (there might be a better way to do things) and whether the person asking for it is likely to have their application approved; as if they don't, then someone else or the same person might ask for something quite different later. | 16:11 |
| cyphermox | but all this is probably best left for the mailing list. | 16:11 |
| rbasak | Please do reply to the mailing list. | 16:11 |
| cyphermox | is this all? | 16:12 |
| rbasak | That's all I had, thanks. | 16:13 |
| cyphermox | cool. I think that's it for this meeting then | 16:13 |
| cyphermox | #endmeeting | 16:13 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Apr 10 16:13:31 2017 UTC. | 16:13 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-04-10-15.01.moin.txt | 16:13 |
| cyphermox | and I need to go grab a quick lunch | 16:13 |
| rbasak | cyphermox: thank you for chairing! | 16:13 |
| sil2100 | Thanks! | 16:17 |
| tyhicks | hello | 16:37 |
| mdeslaur | \o | 16:37 |
| tyhicks | #startmeeting | 16:37 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon Apr 10 16:37:50 2017 UTC. The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:37 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 16:37 |
| jjohansen | o/ | 16:37 |
| tyhicks | The meeting agenda can be found at: | 16:37 |
| tyhicks | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting | 16:37 |
| tyhicks | [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report | 16:38 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report | ||
| tyhicks | jdstrand: you're up | 16:38 |
| jdstrand | hey | 16:38 |
| jdstrand | last week I mostly caught up on snappy reviews, the tty one remains | 16:38 |
| jdstrand | this week working on various snapd policy updates for zesty | 16:38 |
| jdstrand | start looking at wayland/gnome3 interfaces | 16:38 |
| jdstrand | have a few review tools updates to do | 16:38 |
| jdstrand | need to poke at devs for k8s snaps to get k8s interface moving again | 16:38 |
| jdstrand | that's it from me | 16:39 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: you're up | 16:39 |
| mdeslaur | I have a short week today, I go on vacation tomorrow | 16:39 |
| mdeslaur | I'm working on en embargoed issue | 16:39 |
| mdeslaur | I have webkit2gtk updates to publish also | 16:39 |
| mdeslaur | that's about it | 16:39 |
| mdeslaur | sbeattie: you're up | 16:39 |
| sbeattie | I'm on community this week | 16:39 |
| sbeattie | I have some kernel signoffs to do | 16:39 |
| sbeattie | I'll be looking at the list for updates to do | 16:40 |
| sbeattie | There's also some apparmor list mail for me to go through as well. | 16:40 |
| sbeattie | that's probably it for me. tyhicks? | 16:41 |
| tyhicks | sbeattie: thanks - think it'll be important for you to pick up some updates this week | 16:42 |
| tyhicks | I'm on bug triage this week | 16:42 |
| tyhicks | I just reviewed a snapd PR regarding device key generation and did some additional research around that | 16:42 |
| tyhicks | I'll be hashing out a few more details regarding the seccomp logging work on the lkml and hopefully will be able to start finalizing the seccomp v5 patch set within a day or two | 16:43 |
| tyhicks | still doing some 12.04 ESM prep | 16:43 |
| tyhicks | and I still need to do some upstream ecryptfs work to review PRs | 16:44 |
| tyhicks | that's it for me | 16:44 |
| tyhicks | jjohansen: you're up | 16:44 |
| jjohansen | I have some bugs I am working on/need to follow up on. An rlimit issue that has surfaced in zesty (1679704) | 16:45 |
| jjohansen | a ptrace issue, that there is no bug for yet, and I am not sure the user understands what is going on (so a quick check hopefully) | 16:46 |
| jjohansen | and then upstreaming work | 16:47 |
| jjohansen | unless directed otherwise | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | sounds good to me | 16:47 |
| jjohansen | thats it for /me sarnold you are up | 16:47 |
| sarnold | I'm on cve triage; it's a shotr week for me, off thurs, friday, and monday next week too | 16:47 |
| sarnold | shadow still hangs over my head | 16:48 |
| sarnold | as does mellon | 16:48 |
| sarnold | lasso, rather | 16:48 |
| sarnold | anyway, that's it for me, chrisccoulson? | 16:48 |
| chrisccoulson | I've got an embargoed update to do this week | 16:48 |
| chrisccoulson | In addition to that, I'm trying to debug a firefox crash (struggling to focus on this though tbh) | 16:49 |
| chrisccoulson | And I need to reach out to mozilla to discuss the start page | 16:49 |
| chrisccoulson | I think that's me done | 16:49 |
| ratliff | I'm in the happy place this week | 16:50 |
| ratliff | I have to finalize my charts and script for the webinar | 16:50 |
| ratliff | I am reviewing the flavors CVE pages script to see if it can be tweaked | 16:50 |
| ratliff | If there is more time, I'll do vivd updates | 16:51 |
| ratliff | back to you, tyhicks | 16:51 |
| tyhicks | thanks | 16:51 |
| tyhicks | [TOPIC] Highlighted packages | 16:51 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages | ||
| tyhicks | The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. | 16:51 |
| tyhicks | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. | 16:51 |
| tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/uglifyjs.html | 16:52 |
| tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/tripleo-heat-templates.html | 16:52 |
| tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/festival.html | 16:52 |
| tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/racket.html | 16:52 |
| tyhicks | [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions | 16:52 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Miscellaneous and Questions | ||
| tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/php-gettext.html | 16:52 |
| tyhicks | Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? | 16:52 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand, mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson, ratliff: Thanks! | 16:54 |
| tyhicks | #endmeeting | 16:54 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Apr 10 16:54:09 2017 UTC. | 16:54 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-04-10-16.37.moin.txt | 16:54 |
| mdeslaur | thanks tyhicks! | 16:54 |
| jjohansen | thanks tyhicks | 16:54 |
| sarnold | thanks tyhicks! | 16:54 |
| jdstrand | thanks tyhicks :) | 16:55 |
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| chatter29 | to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger | 18:47 |
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