| SuperMatt | morning | 07:31 |
|---|---|---|
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 07:34 |
| foobarry | downloaded ubuntu gnome 17.04RC for a play | 07:42 |
| brobostigon | :) | 07:46 |
| MooDoo | morning all | 07:48 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! Happy Monday, and happy Golfer's Day! 😃 🏌 ⛳ | 09:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | i'm sure trump will tweet about it | 09:07 |
| SuperMatt | don't care for golfing, just want to dance 💃 👯 | 09:07 |
| foobarry | wonder when screen will support unicode :( | 09:08 |
| SuperMatt | Does it not? | 09:08 |
| foobarry | not here | 09:08 |
| foobarry | i got a golf putter, but also lots of ?? | 09:08 |
| SuperMatt | I'm using byobu, and that's fine, but I think byobu is based on tmux | 09:08 |
| foobarry | � | 09:08 |
| foobarry | gnome shell doesn't seem to have evolved much in 3 yrs | 09:09 |
| SuperMatt | uhhh, I think it has | 09:10 |
| foobarry | how? | 09:10 |
| foobarry | i've only had cursory look so far | 09:11 |
| SuperMatt | The usability of it is considerable better now that it was a few years back. Moving the notifications to the top was a great step | 09:11 |
| foobarry | are you using ubuntu gnome? | 09:13 |
| foobarry | which extensions? | 09:13 |
| SuperMatt | No, I'm using fedora 26 alpha | 09:13 |
| SuperMatt | tbh, I don't think the ubuntu gnome implementation is that great | 09:15 |
| SuperMatt | for instance, nautilus is gnome shell now has better spacing, but this hasn't made its way to Ubuntu | 09:16 |
| SuperMatt | http://i.imgur.com/u0NqxQk.png | 09:17 |
| foobarry | is that on a VM? the window looks massive | 09:20 |
| foobarry | what spacing SuperMatt ? | 09:20 |
| SuperMatt | Yes, it is a vm | 09:21 |
| SuperMatt | the spacing between the folder icons there is much better in vanilla gnome | 09:21 |
| SuperMatt | If you make the icons that size in Ubuntu Gnome, you'll realise how hideous it looks | 09:21 |
| foobarry | http://imgur.com/a/yHmQw# | 09:22 |
| zmoylan-pi | gnome has a non hideous setting?! | 09:22 |
| foobarry | http://imgur.com/a/yHmQw | 09:22 |
| foobarry | thats ubuntu gnome | 09:22 |
| SuperMatt | oh! They finally caught up! | 09:22 |
| foobarry | how can i reduce the title bar size? | 09:23 |
| SuperMatt | You don't, I think | 09:23 |
| zmoylan-pi | get a bigger monitor? :-P | 09:23 |
| foobarry | elementary seem to be able to do it without the massive title bars | 09:25 |
| foobarry | but include the title bar icons etc in similar way | 09:26 |
| foobarry | gnome looks like its designed as a touch interface for fat fingers | 09:26 |
| foobarry | firefox is ok but nautilus is ridiculous | 09:26 |
| zmoylan-pi | gnome has looked that way since i first tried it in red hat 5.2... pretty but wrong | 09:27 |
| popey | 10:17 < SuperMatt> http://i.imgur.com/u0NqxQk.png | 09:28 |
| popey | that looks like a toytown os | 09:28 |
| * popey grumbles more about the death of unity | 09:28 | |
| foobarry | all DEs > unity > gnome shell | 09:29 |
| SuperMatt | I'm very happy with gnome because I can work it without a mouse | 09:29 |
| SuperMatt | and it stays out of my way | 09:30 |
| zmoylan-pi | which is what a de should do | 09:30 |
| foobarry | except gnome doesn't | 09:30 |
| foobarry | because of the weird overlay screen when you hit super. and the massive title bars | 09:30 |
| foobarry | btw i am hiring programmers (permanent), so if anyone knows any, this is more interesting than most corporate programming jobs | 09:34 |
| davmor2 | popey: could be worse could be windows | 09:34 |
| foobarry | popey: that screenshot i posted was on my laptop too. not even a low res VM | 09:39 |
| SuperMatt | foobarry: but that overlay screen is ok, because I can still hit meta, type "fi", press enter, and load firefox | 09:42 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: you didn't go for siblings days man you suck | 09:43 |
| TwistedLucidity | foobarry: Where and what tech? | 09:44 |
| ali1234 | popey: who decides whether a flavour can be official or not? | 09:45 |
| ali1234 | like supposing i decide i can do a better job than xubuntu and i make my own xfce-based flavour | 09:45 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPyJLRFk_UY | 09:45 |
| ali1234 | who picks which one is "official"? | 09:45 |
| ali1234 | can they both be official? | 09:45 |
| davmor2 | ali1234: Mark as far I know | 09:46 |
| davmor2 | ali1234: yeap they could both be official but you would need to maintain it reliably for x period of time as I understand it | 09:47 |
| davmor2 | ali1234: they would just need different names | 09:47 |
| foobarry | TwistedLucidity: coding for researchers (mainly scientific research). optimise code and learn about HPC. get your name on research papers. save the world | 09:47 |
| foobarry | C/C++/fortran/python/ linux desktops and servers all the way/ github enterprise/ CUDA programming | 09:48 |
| foobarry | take your piuck and learn the others on the job :D | 09:48 |
| * JamesTait takes notes. | 09:48 | |
| TwistedLucidity | C - Never used. C++ - I've looked at it. Fortran - Done that many moons again. Python - Nup. Github - used twice. CUDA - Nup. | 09:49 |
| * TwistedLucidity is clearly qualified! | 09:49 | |
| MooDoo | foobarry: isn't that what you do with every job lol | 09:49 |
| JamesTait | davmor2, I see what you did there. | 09:49 |
| MooDoo | morning davmor2 | 09:49 |
| foobarry | MooDoo: what, learn on the job? | 09:50 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: you like that right | 09:50 |
| MooDoo | foobarry: yeah ;) | 09:50 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: hey dude | 09:50 |
| foobarry | anyway, job link is here https://webapps2.is.qmul.ac.uk/jobs/job.action?jobID=2191 | 09:50 |
| foobarry | officially closing date is today but if anyone was seriously intersted then buzz me since there are 2 roles going | 09:50 |
| MooDoo | looks great | 09:51 |
| TwistedLucidity | That seems like a low salary for London. | 09:51 |
| popey | ali1234: techboard | 09:51 |
| foobarry | TwistedLucidity yeah but very rewarding | 09:52 |
| TwistedLucidity | I thought London was meant to be all node.js ninjas earning £60k+ as a fresh graduate? | 09:52 |
| ali1234 | foobarry: i can do cuda and python | 09:52 |
| ali1234 | numpy presumably | 09:52 |
| foobarry | that would make a strong case for getting an interview | 09:52 |
| * MooDoo can make tea ! | 09:52 | |
| TwistedLucidity | 30 days leave is kinda nice | 09:52 |
| ali1234 | no fortran though | 09:52 |
| popey | I doubt there would be room for two xfce based flavours | 09:53 |
| popey | I would anticipate the techboard (not wishing to speak for them) would suggest working together | 09:53 |
| ali1234 | it was just an example popey | 09:53 |
| popey | sure | 09:53 |
| foobarry | we don't require any particular language, just good attitude and perhaps a penchant for helping people and making things work more optimially | 09:53 |
| TwistedLucidity | foobarry: Well, that's me out. I prefer to point and laugh. :-P | 09:53 |
| foobarry | but CUDA skills are a bonus atm as we are on a consortium which just spent £4M on a massive gpu cluster | 09:54 |
| foobarry | there's so much awesome available | 09:54 |
| TwistedLucidity | And you can compute just how much awesome IN PARRALLEL! | 09:54 |
| foobarry | all the awesomes | 09:54 |
| ali1234 | thats a lot of GPUs | 09:54 |
| foobarry | might have been a smaller tender for that clsuter. need to check | 09:55 |
| TwistedLucidity | <Insert Crysis joke here> | 09:55 |
| foobarry | the other clusters were 16000 cores | 09:55 |
| foobarry | ah http://gow.epsrc.ac.uk/NGBOViewGrant.aspx?GrantRef=EP/P020275/1 | 09:55 |
| foobarry | The architecture is based on ``fat'' GPU compute nodes, with 8 of NVIDIA's new Pascal GPUs | 09:56 |
| foobarry | The motivation for selecting this architecture is the huge growth in research in machine learning and associated areas of data science within the UK | 09:56 |
| foobarry | loads of fun stuff | 09:56 |
| TwistedLucidity | "The machine has learnt that meatsacks are a problem. EXTERMINATE!" | 09:56 |
| foobarry | we have our own cluster too | 09:56 |
| foobarry | with a few K80s | 09:57 |
| ali1234 | who's in the consorteum? | 09:57 |
| foobarry | the GPU consortium: University of Oxford, with support from the Alan Turing Institute (ATI), Bristol, Edinburgh, KCL, QMUL, Sheffield, Southampton and UCL is for a national GPU system that will support multidisciplinary science | 09:57 |
| foobarry | its gonna be pretty much cutting edge machine learning stuffs | 09:57 |
| foobarry | caffe, tensorflow, all that jazz | 09:58 |
| ali1234 | can any organization use it? | 09:59 |
| foobarry | its mainly assisting researchers create their code and optimising it, profiling it to see where inefficiences lie, and converting peoples code to run in parallel, all sorts of fun stuff | 09:59 |
| foobarry | if you are a EPSRC funded researcher in one of those institutions yeah | 09:59 |
| foobarry | they might sell slices to private sector too | 09:59 |
| ali1234 | i doubt the british library falls under that | 10:00 |
| foobarry | however | 10:00 |
| TwistedLucidity | I shudder to think how complicated parallel could get. There's times where more simple multi-threaded stuff is enough to give on a migraine. | 10:00 |
| foobarry | if the BL collaborate with reearchers then yeah | 10:00 |
| ali1234 | books are physical tho right? | 10:00 |
| foobarry | just like kew gardens | 10:00 |
| foobarry | collaborate with uni and then get access to big compute for genome assembly etc | 10:00 |
| ali1234 | the BL have their own research dept | 10:01 |
| ali1234 | they have phd students so presumably its attached to some university | 10:02 |
| ali1234 | not sure which one though | 10:02 |
| foobarry | actually a colleague was just running some word analysis stuff | 10:02 |
| foobarry | linguistics research | 10:02 |
| foobarry | https://www.bl.uk/news/2017/february/esrc-phd-studentship-continuity-and-change-in-spoken-british-english | 10:02 |
| foobarry | thats collab with QMUL | 10:02 |
| ali1234 | so the BL has 9000 hours of VHS tapes | 10:07 |
| ali1234 | my CUDA code run at approximately real-time on a GTX780 | 10:08 |
| ali1234 | £3M GPU cluster would sure help that | 10:10 |
| foobarry | i just rammed 6 GPU in my test server | 10:11 |
| ali1234 | that description of the cluster doesn't say how many servers it has | 10:12 |
| foobarry | i got some M2090 for free after the comp sci group bought 2 nvidia dgx-1 | 10:12 |
| foobarry | which runs ubuntu i think | 10:12 |
| ali1234 | aren't those really old? | 10:13 |
| foobarry | yeah, thats why they were free | 10:13 |
| foobarry | our proper cluster has K80s | 10:13 |
| foobarry | yeah there's not much info on JADE yet since its only getting online now. emerald is the existing one http://www.ses.ac.uk/high-performance-computing/emerald/ | 10:16 |
| foobarry | there is also an ARM cluster | 10:19 |
| foobarry | https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2017-03/eaps-shp032717.php yeah JADE was £3M | 10:19 |
| TwistedLucidity | I built a small virtual cluster yesterday and learnt a valuable lesson. | 10:32 |
| TwistedLucidity | DO NOT try to start a cluster on a Core 2 Duo with 4GB RAM. Whilst it will work, it'll take the poor thing about ~20 mins to handle the shutdown request. | 10:33 |
| foobarry | what sort of cluster? | 10:34 |
| TwistedLucidity | Cassandra | 10:35 |
| foobarry | HA cluster? | 10:35 |
| TwistedLucidity | Just a noddy wee thing to dick around on. | 10:35 |
| TwistedLucidity | It would be HA if you had a professional do it. But I didn't pay much attention to how the seeds were structured or consider how a client would handle a node going down. | 10:36 |
| TwistedLucidity | Will probably look at that this week. Important thing is; 1. it works, 2. I can connect, 3. I can create keyspaces etc. | 10:36 |
| TwistedLucidity | Must admit the whole "The database will be consistent....eventually." thing kinda gives me the shivers. | 10:37 |
| TwistedLucidity | And I had to go and look up the word "idempotent" :-) | 10:38 |
| TwistedLucidity | "Your update timed out, want to run it again? Do you feel lucky, punk? Well, do yah?" | 10:39 |
| TwistedLucidity | ARGH! I put "punk" in the wrong place. | 10:40 |
| * TwistedLucidity moves to the naughty step for at time out | 10:40 | |
| zmoylan-pi | the 5th or 6th naughty step? | 10:42 |
| TwistedLucidity | 3rd naughty step, 6th flight of stairs :-( | 10:45 |
| zmoylan-pi | was stunned years later when i realised watching ds9 that garak was in dirty harry | 10:50 |
| foobarry | i am actually shopping around for a new distro on my work laptop | 11:17 |
| foobarry | due to various issues. hope they are fixed in real ubuntu | 11:18 |
| * BigRedS plugs Bunsenlabs :) | 11:25 | |
| foobarry | not for work :P | 11:37 |
| foobarry | looks like a #crunchbang | 11:37 |
| ali1234 | i've been testing gnome | 11:39 |
| ali1234 | its not that bad | 11:39 |
| ali1234 | a few fixes and it could be usable | 11:39 |
| SuperMatt | What fixes would those be? | 11:40 |
| ali1234 | put a small delay on submenus | 11:40 |
| ali1234 | make all the classic mode extensions support multimonitor | 11:40 |
| ali1234 | add theming support to them as well | 11:41 |
| foobarry | i heard that gnome doesn't support different resolution settings per monitor. sounds odd | 11:41 |
| foobarry | surely untrue | 11:41 |
| ali1234 | it does support it, just not very well | 11:41 |
| ali1234 | eg menus are constrained to the top of the lowest monitor | 11:41 |
| ali1234 | that's a gdk bug | 11:41 |
| ali1234 | been around since... gtk+3 | 11:42 |
| ali1234 | that's another thing that needs fixing | 11:42 |
| ali1234 | Qt works fine, so it isn't anything to do with gnome | 11:42 |
| ali1234 | xfce has a workaround for this bug | 11:42 |
| ali1234 | it was reported to gtk like two years ago | 11:43 |
| ali1234 | still not fixed | 11:43 |
| foobarry | ali1234: btw where do u work atm? | 11:43 |
| foobarry | or studying? | 11:43 |
| ali1234 | i am self employed | 11:43 |
| foobarry | coder for sale? general make things work kinda contracts? | 11:44 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 11:44 |
| foobarry | actually our current software engineer came from same background | 11:45 |
| ali1234 | making things work is my specialty... i don't like writing new code | 11:45 |
| foobarry | did you study at manchester too? | 11:45 |
| ali1234 | yes | 11:45 |
| penguin42 | Manchester has always been good at making stuff work | 11:46 |
| ali1234 | https://imgur.com/a/Ep8kD | 11:48 |
| ali1234 | this is the "different sized monitors" bug | 11:48 |
| ali1234 | it's actually about where the top of the monitor is | 11:49 |
| BigRedS | foobarry: Crunchbang died, Bunsen's one of the lets-carry-this-on projects | 11:49 |
| ali1234 | GNOME and gtk+3 is full of paper cuts like this | 11:49 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: It aligned the bottom rather than the top? | 11:49 |
| ali1234 | penguin42: it is aligned to the panel on the secondary monitor | 11:50 |
| BigRedS | Oh, is that *still* a thing? | 11:51 |
| ali1234 | it is still a thing on GNOME | 11:51 |
| ali1234 | everyone else implemented workarounds for it years ago | 11:51 |
| ali1234 | the bug is actually in Gdk | 11:51 |
| ali1234 | gnome bug 764310 | 11:54 |
| lubotu3 | Gnome bug 764310 in Backend: Wayland "Certain menus display at wrong position in configured multi-monitor setups under Wayland" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=764310 | 11:54 |
| ali1234 | it also happens under X11 of course | 11:54 |
| diddledan | free range eggs: https://twitter.com/jesslynnrose/status/851401937048264704 | 11:55 |
| TwistedLucidity | ali1234: It's high time Canonical ditched that buggy GNOME and switched to Yunit | 12:05 |
| foobarry | is ubuntu gnome using wayland yet? | 12:17 |
| ali1234 | probably, if you have one of the three video cards where it works | 12:18 |
| diddledan | and you sacrifice an oily goat | 12:19 |
| diddledan | "in the name of the father, the sun, and the oily goat" | 12:20 |
| diddledan | yes I spelled sun correctly :-p | 12:20 |
| foobarry | works in fredora though dunnit? | 12:20 |
| * penguin42 hands diddledan some goat wash | 12:20 | |
| zmoylan-pi | i'm sure you could get some at the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puck_Fair | 12:48 |
| foobarry | wow is that where pheasant pluckers go? | 12:55 |
| penguin42 | foobarry: Only for their Friday feast | 12:55 |
| foobarry | fuzzy duck? | 12:55 |
| diddledan | I think pheasant pluckers are pleasent | 12:58 |
| foobarry | budgie seems ....weird | 12:59 |
| foobarry | like when you install xfce on your unity session and the notifications and theme look all wrong | 12:59 |
| foobarry | its a weird mix of nasty icons , ubuntu buttons, tiny elementary dock and massive gnome title bars | 13:00 |
| SuperMatt | problem is you're using it outside its natural habitat. Go and take a look at Solus, see what themes, icons and fonts they use, then use those | 13:03 |
| foobarry | well i tried the ubuntu budgie spin | 13:09 |
| foobarry | should be reasonably sensible? | 13:10 |
| foobarry | i steer clear of solus due to shifting sands constantly on that project. | 13:12 |
| foobarry | until they decide on/finish something | 13:13 |
| SuperMatt | I don't know how good the budgie remix is | 13:15 |
| foobarry | looking at screenshots , doesn't loko a whole lot different | 13:17 |
| foobarry | has the same weird incongruence | 13:18 |
| SuperMatt | that's odd | 13:18 |
| SuperMatt | Budgie is quite usable, except last time I used it, it had no alt+tab | 13:18 |
| SuperMatt | I can't remember if it had an exposé feature either | 13:19 |
| SuperMatt | I always use the top left as a hotspot to show all windows | 13:19 |
| SuperMatt | and cannot stand when I don't have that feature | 13:19 |
| foobarry | does MATE have that? | 13:21 |
| SuperMatt | No idea | 13:21 |
| foobarry | mate is looking pure gnome2 old school | 13:21 |
| ali1234 | mate doesn't have hot corners | 13:22 |
| ali1234 | activities view gives me a headache | 13:23 |
| foobarry | ..aaaaand i'm back to elementary | 13:26 |
| foobarry | maybe i'll just reinstall and hope it fixes my laptop issues | 13:26 |
| SuperMatt | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zpgQpdy_fI | 13:30 |
| foobarry | well i know what gives the best UI experience. | 13:33 |
| foobarry | just experiencing some hardware type issues that may or may not affect other buntus | 13:33 |
| popey | I was quite impressed with Ubuntu MATE and the way you can change the UI to look like unity or elementary | 13:34 |
| SuperMatt | I'm quite happy with Fedora at the moment, but if Canonical manage to make Gnome Shell better, I may well switch (especially for better graphics driver support) | 13:36 |
| penguin42 | hmm not tried that, just kept it simple as old Gnome2 | 13:36 |
| ali1234 | the arch cartoons in that video are pretty funny | 13:39 |
| ali1234 | how many unity forks are there now then? | 13:40 |
| ali1234 | i've seen about five different ones | 13:40 |
| foobarry | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/make-gnome-shell-look-feel-like-unity heh | 14:05 |
| foobarry | oh its copy paste of https://kryogenix.org/days/2017/04/05/making-gnome-shell-feel-like-unity/ | 14:06 |
| foobarry | SuperMatt: any gnome shell crashes? | 14:13 |
| foobarry | i remember alt-f2 r <enter> being a big thing in early days | 14:13 |
| foobarry | and enabling extensions one by one to see the crasher | 14:13 |
| foobarry | http://imgur.com/a/Vvehr linux visitors read more pages | 14:17 |
| ali1234 | i saw it freeze twice today and i'm just kicking the tyres | 14:17 |
| foobarry | thats my previous experience a few yrs ago | 14:17 |
| foobarry | on usb live or disk install? | 14:17 |
| ali1234 | i right clicked on something and the whole thing froze, then about 20 seconds later it restarted | 14:17 |
| ali1234 | disk install | 14:17 |
| foobarry | eww | 14:22 |
| daftykins | what did that? | 14:22 |
| ali1234 | gnome-shell | 14:22 |
| daftykins | ah right, is that the same as gnome3 o0 | 14:23 |
| SuperMatt | foobarry: very rarely use it today, except in cases where I install a theme and need to reload | 14:23 |
| ali1234 | yes | 14:23 |
| foobarry | ali1234: which extensions in use? | 14:25 |
| ali1234 | applications menu, places indicator, window list | 14:28 |
| foobarry | nothing too exotic | 14:28 |
| ali1234 | all of them are supposed to be officially supported as part of classic mode | 14:29 |
| ali1234 | but i get the feeling they make classic mode deliberately not work properly | 14:29 |
| foobarry | what is classic mode? | 14:29 |
| foobarry | new name for failback mode? | 14:30 |
| ali1234 | it is a set of extensions that make gnome-shell look like a default gnome 2 layout | 14:30 |
| ali1234 | you get a window list and workspace switcher at the bottom | 14:30 |
| ali1234 | and you get an application menu instead of activities | 14:30 |
| ali1234 | you can't move any of them though | 14:30 |
| ali1234 | and the activities menu can only be on the primary monitor, nowhere else | 14:31 |
| ali1234 | its what you see in the screenshot i posted earlier | 14:31 |
| foobarry | https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/76542419/conspiracy-cat-what-if-cancelling-unity-was-a-plan-to-make-it-more-popular.jpg | 14:36 |
| ali1234 | lol at yunit folks realising just how much work they will have to do to make unity run on wayland | 14:41 |
| ali1234 | its going to be funny watching them collide with wayland project | 14:44 |
| * penguin42 must try and see if there's any xfce work for wayland and see if I can help | 15:17 | |
| * penguin42 has to finish some other impossible projects first though | 15:17 | |
| daftykins | :D | 15:17 |
| daftykins | the best kind! | 15:17 |
| foobarry | probably better to hack gnome shell to look more like unity | 15:18 |
| foobarry | global menu sucks anyway | 15:18 |
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| davmor2 | I can haz power | 15:45 |
| davmor2 | hello electricity oh how I've missed you | 15:45 |
| penguin42 | ah | 15:46 |
| Hurthfoo | Hi. Are there any firewalls that prompt the user to allow/deny on outgoing connections? | 16:53 |
| * penguin42 doesn't know of any | 16:57 | |
| Hurthfoo | Thanks. I've been directed to Douane | 16:59 |
| diddledan | apparently downloads are running out: https://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/851519599627575296 | 19:39 |
| diddledan | get your downloads now in case we run out | 19:39 |
| zmoylan-pi | proably limited by an integer counter... once they hit 32000... :-P | 19:40 |
| diddledan | 32000 is a weird number to fail on | 19:42 |
| diddledan | :-p | 19:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | not so much :-) https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10558540/vba-macro-crashes-after-32000-rows | 19:42 |
| diddledan | I think you meant 32767 | 19:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | i'm rounding down out of politeness and to flush out the ocd folk... ::makes note of diddledan's id:: | 19:43 |
| * diddledan makes a point of mentioning that I even accounted for the number being one-less-than 32*1024 because the usual "friendly" binary numbers (e.g. 32768) are actually from the next cycle | 19:45 | |
| * zmoylan-pi underlines diddledan on list in red... | 19:46 | |
| diddledan | lol @ video encoding going at about 0.3x realtime | 19:47 |
| diddledan | 12.5% done, 4.5 hours to go | 19:47 |
| diddledan | maybe I chose too high a quality | 19:47 |
| zmoylan-pi | i was amazed first time i ripped a dvd and it ripped quicker than the playtime of the dvd... | 19:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | i was so used to overnight ripping on ancient mac mini | 19:48 |
| diddledan | was that before libdvdcss existed? | 19:49 |
| zmoylan-pi | no i'm pretty sure i still have that on a t-shirt somewhere which was older than the mac mini | 19:49 |
| diddledan | oh Buck! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39560646 | 19:51 |
| * zmoylan-pi resets number of days for a school shooting to 0 | 19:52 | |
| diddledan | you can't rollback your iThingy away from APFS (filesystem) https://9to5mac.com/2017/04/10/apple-stops-signing-ios-10-2-1-preventing-downgrades-apfs/ | 20:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | no backsies!! | 20:10 |
| * zmoylan-pi puts on dab radio to see what npr mentions about united passender handling... | 20:52 | |
| === acheronuk is now known as acheronUK | ||
| daftykins | i nearly lost one of the girls today - http://i.imgur.com/Ox3C0x8.jpg | 21:54 |
| daftykins | shot out the front door when i opened it :) | 21:55 |
| zmoylan-pi | hopefully the moggies are chipped in case they get lost | 22:34 |
| daftykins | probably :> | 22:34 |
| daftykins | poor little guys are almost on their own for 2 weeks right now as my client, wife and kid are down in the Spain apartment for easter | 22:35 |
| zmoylan-pi | cats are fairly resiliant compared to dogs... dogs need company, a cat is grand as long as theirs food, a litter box and a window to watch the world | 22:36 |
| penguin42 | or an Amazon account | 22:37 |
| daftykins | yip, or a daftykins to troll | 22:37 |
| daftykins | they have a dog too though :| hah | 22:37 |
| diddledan | why doesn't IRC have a +1 button yet?! | 23:00 |
| * diddledan just looked for it on daftykins' second to last comment | 23:01 | |
| diddledan | I been facebooking too much | 23:01 |
| penguin42 | it's actually an interesting hard problem - you need something to aggregate the +1's and distribute the totals | 23:02 |
| daftykins | ;) | 23:02 |
| diddledan | I say we all move to slack | 23:03 |
| diddledan | :-p | 23:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | there are bots for irc to do that.... | 23:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | i'v seen them in some channels | 23:03 |
| penguin42 | karma bots for people, not sure about for actual messages | 23:03 |
| daftykins | wow just had this shared in another chan - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9FqD4bXcAAyzFo.jpg | 23:34 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: Nod, scary isn't it | 23:35 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: Now, tell me about your mother | 23:35 |
| daftykins | Let me tell you about my mother... | 23:35 |
| daftykins | :> | 23:36 |
| daftykins | i wonder if they're going to ruin it with the upcoming sequel | 23:36 |
| diddledan | they're bound to try adjusting the timeline | 23:37 |
| * penguin42 did see it in a cinema for the first time about a year ago, it was great - nice to see it on the big screen | 23:40 | |
| daftykins | i'd almost toss the Vangelis soundtrack on, buuuut it's already 1am nearly | 23:47 |
| penguin42 | and it does need to be loud | 23:47 |
| daftykins | hehe | 23:47 |
| * daftykins pats the vinyl rip | 23:47 | |
| daftykins | oh i finally got my last quote today btw, £11,700 for the bathroom by the looks :| submit them to the insurance adjuster this afternoon | 23:48 |
| penguin42 | what happened? | 23:48 |
| daftykins | water leak | 23:48 |
| daftykins | rotten joist and damaged plasterboard amongst other things | 23:49 |
| daftykins | discovered it in the new year, but it's taken until now to get through some of the rubbish | 23:49 |
| penguin42 | ouch, slow leak? | 23:49 |
| daftykins | next i have to get quotes for accomodation for me and the cat... plus wait on what they're going to pay | 23:49 |
| daftykins | yep | 23:49 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/lq2pz43hvi4519z/IMG_20170121_162824.jpg?dl=0 | 23:50 |
| daftykins | good snap there | 23:50 |
| penguin42 | seems an inconvenient place to leak - waste water? | 23:51 |
| daftykins | both that and the thermostatic valve in the stud wall, yip | 23:51 |
| daftykins | oh actually it wasn't really the waste in the end but the wall sealant inside the shower enclosure allowing a leak out behind the tiles and onto the joist | 23:52 |
| daftykins | on the 19th i'll have been without a shower for 3 months | 23:52 |
| penguin42 | ouch | 23:52 |
| daftykins | that's why i see the kittens so much, i go up there to shower XD | 23:53 |
| * penguin42 doesn't understand that logic | 23:55 | |
| daftykins | hmm? client lets me use a spare bathroom :> | 23:56 |
| penguin42 | how much do they charge for the kitten access? | 23:56 |
| daftykins | hahaha | 23:57 |
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