[07:31] <SuperMatt> morning
[07:34] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:42] <foobarry> downloaded ubuntu gnome 17.04RC  for a play
[07:46] <brobostigon> :)
[07:48] <MooDoo> morning all
[09:06] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Monday, and happy Golfer's Day! 😃  🏌 ⛳
[09:07] <zmoylan-pi> i'm sure trump will tweet about it
[09:07] <SuperMatt> don't care for golfing, just want to dance 💃 👯
[09:08] <foobarry> wonder when screen will support unicode :(
[09:08] <SuperMatt> Does it not?
[09:08] <foobarry> not here
[09:08] <foobarry> i got a golf putter, but also lots of ??
[09:08] <SuperMatt> I'm using byobu, and that's fine, but I think byobu is based on tmux
[09:08] <foobarry>  �
[09:09] <foobarry> gnome shell doesn't seem to have evolved much in 3 yrs
[09:10] <SuperMatt> uhhh, I think it has
[09:10] <foobarry> how?
[09:11] <foobarry> i've only had cursory look so far
[09:11] <SuperMatt> The usability of it is considerable better now that it was a few years back. Moving the notifications to the top was a great step
[09:13] <foobarry> are you using ubuntu gnome?
[09:13] <foobarry> which extensions?
[09:13] <SuperMatt> No, I'm using fedora 26 alpha
[09:15] <SuperMatt> tbh, I don't think the ubuntu gnome implementation is that great
[09:16] <SuperMatt> for instance, nautilus is gnome shell now has better spacing, but this hasn't made its way to Ubuntu
[09:17] <SuperMatt> http://i.imgur.com/u0NqxQk.png
[09:20] <foobarry> is that on a VM? the window looks massive
[09:20] <foobarry> what spacing SuperMatt ?
[09:21] <SuperMatt> Yes, it is a vm
[09:21] <SuperMatt> the spacing between the folder icons there is much better in vanilla gnome
[09:21] <SuperMatt> If you make the icons that size in Ubuntu Gnome, you'll realise how hideous it looks
[09:22] <foobarry> http://imgur.com/a/yHmQw#
[09:22] <zmoylan-pi> gnome has a non hideous setting?!
[09:22] <foobarry> http://imgur.com/a/yHmQw
[09:22] <foobarry> thats ubuntu gnome
[09:22] <SuperMatt> oh! They finally caught up!
[09:23] <foobarry> how can i reduce the title bar size?
[09:23] <SuperMatt> You don't, I think
[09:23] <zmoylan-pi> get a bigger monitor? :-P
[09:25] <foobarry> elementary seem to be able to do it without the massive title bars
[09:26] <foobarry> but include the title bar icons etc in similar way
[09:26] <foobarry> gnome looks like its designed as a touch interface for fat fingers
[09:26] <foobarry> firefox is ok but nautilus is ridiculous
[09:27] <zmoylan-pi> gnome has looked that way since i first tried it in red hat 5.2... pretty but wrong
[09:28] <popey> 10:17 < SuperMatt> http://i.imgur.com/u0NqxQk.png
[09:28] <popey> that looks like a toytown os
[09:28]  * popey grumbles more about the death of unity
[09:29] <foobarry> all DEs > unity > gnome shell
[09:29] <SuperMatt> I'm very happy with gnome because I can work it without a mouse
[09:30] <SuperMatt> and it stays out of my way
[09:30] <zmoylan-pi> which is what a de should do
[09:30] <foobarry> except gnome doesn't
[09:30] <foobarry> because of the weird overlay screen when you hit super. and the massive title bars
[09:34] <foobarry> btw i am hiring programmers (permanent), so if anyone knows any, this is more interesting than most corporate programming jobs
[09:34] <davmor2> popey: could be worse could be windows
[09:39] <foobarry> popey: that screenshot i posted was on my laptop too. not even a low res VM
[09:42] <SuperMatt> foobarry: but that overlay screen is ok, because I can still hit meta, type "fi", press enter, and load firefox
[09:43] <davmor2> JamesTait: you didn't go for siblings days man you suck
[09:44] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: Where and what tech?
[09:45] <ali1234> popey: who decides whether a flavour can be official or not?
[09:45] <ali1234> like supposing i decide i can do a better job than xubuntu and i make my own xfce-based flavour
[09:45] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPyJLRFk_UY
[09:45] <ali1234> who picks which one is "official"?
[09:45] <ali1234> can they both be official?
[09:46] <davmor2> ali1234: Mark as far I know
[09:47] <davmor2> ali1234: yeap they could both be official but you would need to maintain it reliably for x period of time as I understand it
[09:47] <davmor2> ali1234: they would just need different names
[09:47] <foobarry> TwistedLucidity: coding for researchers (mainly scientific research). optimise code and learn about HPC. get your name on research papers. save the world
[09:48] <foobarry> C/C++/fortran/python/ linux desktops and servers all the way/ github enterprise/ CUDA programming
[09:48] <foobarry> take your piuck and learn the others on the job :D
[09:48]  * JamesTait takes notes.
[09:49] <TwistedLucidity> C - Never used. C++ - I've looked at it. Fortran - Done that many moons again. Python - Nup. Github - used twice. CUDA - Nup.
[09:49]  * TwistedLucidity is clearly qualified!
[09:49] <MooDoo> foobarry: isn't that what you do with every job lol
[09:49] <JamesTait> davmor2, I see what you did there.
[09:49] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[09:50] <foobarry> MooDoo: what, learn on the job?
[09:50] <davmor2> JamesTait: you like that right
[09:50] <MooDoo> foobarry: yeah ;)
[09:50] <davmor2> MooDoo: hey dude
[09:50] <foobarry> anyway, job link is here https://webapps2.is.qmul.ac.uk/jobs/job.action?jobID=2191
[09:50] <foobarry> officially closing date is today but if anyone was seriously intersted then buzz me since there are 2 roles going
[09:51] <MooDoo> looks great
[09:51] <TwistedLucidity> That seems like a low salary for London.
[09:51] <popey> ali1234: techboard
[09:52] <foobarry> TwistedLucidity yeah but very rewarding
[09:52] <TwistedLucidity> I thought London was meant to be all node.js ninjas earning £60k+ as a fresh graduate?
[09:52] <ali1234> foobarry: i can do cuda and python
[09:52] <ali1234> numpy presumably
[09:52] <foobarry> that would make a strong case for getting an interview
[09:52]  * MooDoo can make tea !
[09:52] <TwistedLucidity> 30 days leave is kinda nice
[09:52] <ali1234> no fortran though
[09:53] <popey> I doubt there would be room for two xfce based flavours
[09:53] <popey> I would anticipate the techboard (not wishing to speak for them) would suggest working together
[09:53] <ali1234> it was just an example popey
[09:53] <popey> sure
[09:53] <foobarry> we don't require any particular language, just good attitude and perhaps a penchant for helping people and making things work more optimially
[09:53] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: Well, that's me out. I prefer to point and laugh. :-P
[09:54] <foobarry> but CUDA skills are a bonus atm as we are on a consortium which just spent £4M on a massive gpu cluster
[09:54] <foobarry> there's so much awesome available
[09:54] <TwistedLucidity> And you can compute just how much awesome IN PARRALLEL!
[09:54] <foobarry> all the awesomes
[09:54] <ali1234> thats a lot of GPUs
[09:55] <foobarry> might have been a smaller tender for that clsuter. need to check
[09:55] <TwistedLucidity> <Insert Crysis joke here>
[09:55] <foobarry> the other clusters were 16000 cores
[09:55] <foobarry> ah http://gow.epsrc.ac.uk/NGBOViewGrant.aspx?GrantRef=EP/P020275/1
[09:56] <foobarry>  The architecture is based on ``fat'' GPU compute nodes, with 8 of NVIDIA's new Pascal GPUs
[09:56] <foobarry> The motivation for selecting this architecture is the huge growth in research in machine learning and associated areas of data science within the UK
[09:56] <foobarry> loads of fun stuff
[09:56] <TwistedLucidity> "The machine has learnt that meatsacks are a problem. EXTERMINATE!"
[09:56] <foobarry> we have our own cluster too
[09:57] <foobarry> with a few K80s
[09:57] <ali1234> who's in the consorteum?
[09:57] <foobarry> the GPU consortium:  University of Oxford, with support from the Alan Turing Institute (ATI), Bristol, Edinburgh, KCL, QMUL, Sheffield, Southampton and UCL is for a national GPU system that will support multidisciplinary science
[09:57] <foobarry> its gonna be pretty much cutting edge machine learning stuffs
[09:58] <foobarry> caffe, tensorflow, all that jazz
[09:59] <ali1234> can any organization use it?
[09:59] <foobarry> its mainly assisting researchers create their code and optimising it, profiling it to see where inefficiences lie, and converting peoples code to run in parallel, all sorts of fun stuff
[09:59] <foobarry> if you are a EPSRC funded researcher in one of those institutions yeah
[09:59] <foobarry> they might sell slices to private sector too
[10:00] <ali1234> i doubt the british library falls under that
[10:00] <foobarry> however
[10:00] <TwistedLucidity> I shudder to think how complicated parallel could get. There's times where more simple multi-threaded stuff is enough to give on a migraine.
[10:00] <foobarry> if the BL collaborate with reearchers then yeah
[10:00] <ali1234> books are physical tho right?
[10:00] <foobarry> just like kew gardens
[10:00] <foobarry> collaborate with uni and then get access to big compute for genome assembly etc
[10:01] <ali1234> the BL have their own research dept
[10:02] <ali1234> they have phd students so presumably its attached to some university
[10:02] <ali1234> not sure which one though
[10:02] <foobarry> actually a colleague was just running some word analysis stuff
[10:02] <foobarry> linguistics research
[10:02] <foobarry> https://www.bl.uk/news/2017/february/esrc-phd-studentship-continuity-and-change-in-spoken-british-english
[10:02] <foobarry> thats collab with QMUL
[10:07] <ali1234> so the BL has 9000 hours of VHS tapes
[10:08] <ali1234> my CUDA code run at approximately real-time on a GTX780
[10:10] <ali1234> £3M GPU cluster would sure help that
[10:11] <foobarry> i just rammed 6 GPU in my test server
[10:12] <ali1234> that description of the cluster doesn't say how many servers it has
[10:12] <foobarry> i got some M2090 for free after the comp sci group bought 2 nvidia dgx-1
[10:12] <foobarry> which runs ubuntu i think
[10:13] <ali1234> aren't those really old?
[10:13] <foobarry> yeah, thats why they were free
[10:13] <foobarry> our proper cluster has K80s
[10:16] <foobarry> yeah there's not much info on JADE yet since its only getting online now. emerald is the existing one http://www.ses.ac.uk/high-performance-computing/emerald/
[10:19] <foobarry> there is also an ARM cluster
[10:19] <foobarry> https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2017-03/eaps-shp032717.php yeah JADE was £3M
[10:32] <TwistedLucidity> I built a small virtual cluster yesterday and learnt a valuable lesson.
[10:33] <TwistedLucidity> DO NOT try to start a cluster on a Core 2 Duo with 4GB RAM. Whilst it will work, it'll take the poor thing about ~20 mins to handle the shutdown request.
[10:34] <foobarry> what sort of cluster?
[10:35] <TwistedLucidity> Cassandra
[10:35] <foobarry> HA cluster?
[10:35] <TwistedLucidity> Just a noddy wee thing to dick around on.
[10:36] <TwistedLucidity> It would be HA if you had a professional do it. But I didn't pay much attention to how the seeds were structured or consider how a client would handle a node going down.
[10:36] <TwistedLucidity> Will probably look at that this week. Important thing is; 1. it works, 2. I can connect, 3. I can create keyspaces etc.
[10:37] <TwistedLucidity> Must admit the whole "The database will be consistent....eventually." thing kinda gives me the shivers.
[10:38] <TwistedLucidity> And I had to go and look up the word "idempotent" :-)
[10:39] <TwistedLucidity> "Your update timed out, want to run it again? Do you feel lucky, punk? Well, do yah?"
[10:40] <TwistedLucidity> ARGH! I put "punk" in the wrong place.
[10:40]  * TwistedLucidity moves to the naughty step for at time out
[10:42] <zmoylan-pi> the 5th or 6th naughty step?
[10:45] <TwistedLucidity> 3rd naughty step, 6th flight of stairs :-(
[10:50] <zmoylan-pi> was stunned years later when i realised watching ds9 that garak was in dirty harry
[11:17] <foobarry> i am actually shopping around for a new distro on my work laptop
[11:18] <foobarry> due to various issues. hope they are fixed in real ubuntu
[11:25]  * BigRedS plugs Bunsenlabs :)
[11:37] <foobarry> not for work :P
[11:37] <foobarry> looks like a #crunchbang
[11:39] <ali1234> i've been testing gnome
[11:39] <ali1234> its not that bad
[11:39] <ali1234> a few fixes and it could be usable
[11:40] <SuperMatt> What fixes would those be?
[11:40] <ali1234> put a small delay on submenus
[11:40] <ali1234> make all the classic mode extensions support multimonitor
[11:41] <ali1234> add theming support to them as well
[11:41] <foobarry> i heard that gnome doesn't support different resolution settings per monitor. sounds odd
[11:41] <foobarry> surely untrue
[11:41] <ali1234> it does support it, just not very well
[11:41] <ali1234> eg menus are constrained to the top of the lowest monitor
[11:41] <ali1234> that's a gdk bug
[11:42] <ali1234> been around since... gtk+3
[11:42] <ali1234> that's another thing that needs fixing
[11:42] <ali1234> Qt works fine, so it isn't anything to do with gnome
[11:42] <ali1234> xfce has a workaround for this bug
[11:43] <ali1234> it was reported to gtk like two years ago
[11:43] <ali1234> still not fixed
[11:43] <foobarry> ali1234: btw where do u work atm?
[11:43] <foobarry> or studying?
[11:43] <ali1234> i am self employed
[11:44] <foobarry> coder for sale? general make things work kinda contracts?
[11:44] <ali1234> yeah
[11:45] <foobarry> actually our current software engineer came from same background
[11:45] <ali1234> making things work is my specialty... i don't like writing new code
[11:45] <foobarry> did you study at manchester too?
[11:45] <ali1234> yes
[11:46] <penguin42> Manchester has always been good at making stuff work
[11:48] <ali1234> https://imgur.com/a/Ep8kD
[11:48] <ali1234> this is the "different sized monitors" bug
[11:49] <ali1234> it's actually about where the top of the monitor is
[11:49] <BigRedS> foobarry: Crunchbang died, Bunsen's one of the lets-carry-this-on projects
[11:49] <ali1234> GNOME and gtk+3 is full of paper cuts like this
[11:49] <penguin42> ali1234: It aligned the bottom rather than the top?
[11:50] <ali1234> penguin42: it is aligned to the panel on the secondary monitor
[11:51] <BigRedS> Oh, is that *still* a thing?
[11:51] <ali1234> it is still a thing on GNOME
[11:51] <ali1234> everyone else implemented workarounds for it years ago
[11:51] <ali1234> the bug is actually in Gdk
[11:54] <ali1234> gnome bug 764310
[11:54] <ali1234> it also happens under X11 of course
[11:55] <diddledan> free range eggs: https://twitter.com/jesslynnrose/status/851401937048264704
[12:05] <TwistedLucidity> ali1234: It's high time Canonical ditched that buggy GNOME and switched to Yunit
[12:17] <foobarry> is ubuntu gnome using wayland yet?
[12:18] <ali1234> probably, if you have one of the three video cards where it works
[12:19] <diddledan> and you sacrifice an oily goat
[12:20] <diddledan> "in the name of the father, the sun, and the oily goat"
[12:20] <diddledan> yes I spelled sun correctly :-p
[12:20] <foobarry> works in fredora though dunnit?
[12:20]  * penguin42 hands diddledan some goat wash
[12:48] <zmoylan-pi> i'm sure you could get some at the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puck_Fair
[12:55] <foobarry> wow is that where pheasant pluckers go?
[12:55] <penguin42> foobarry: Only for their Friday feast
[12:55] <foobarry> fuzzy duck?
[12:58] <diddledan> I think pheasant pluckers are pleasent
[12:59] <foobarry> budgie seems ....weird
[12:59] <foobarry> like when you install xfce on your unity session and the notifications and theme look all wrong
[13:00] <foobarry> its a weird mix of nasty icons , ubuntu buttons, tiny elementary dock and massive gnome title bars
[13:03] <SuperMatt> problem is you're using it outside its natural habitat. Go and take a look at Solus, see what themes, icons and fonts they use, then use those
[13:09] <foobarry> well i tried the ubuntu budgie spin
[13:10] <foobarry> should be reasonably sensible?
[13:12] <foobarry> i steer clear of solus due to shifting sands constantly on that project.
[13:13] <foobarry> until they decide on/finish something
[13:15] <SuperMatt> I don't know how good the budgie remix is
[13:17] <foobarry> looking at screenshots , doesn't loko a whole lot different
[13:18] <foobarry> has the same weird incongruence
[13:18] <SuperMatt> that's odd
[13:18] <SuperMatt> Budgie is quite usable, except last time I used it, it had no alt+tab
[13:19] <SuperMatt> I can't remember if it had an exposé feature either
[13:19] <SuperMatt> I always use the top left as a hotspot to show all windows
[13:19] <SuperMatt> and cannot stand when I don't have that feature
[13:21] <foobarry> does MATE have that?
[13:21] <SuperMatt> No idea
[13:21] <foobarry> mate is looking pure gnome2 old school
[13:22] <ali1234> mate doesn't have hot corners
[13:23] <ali1234> activities view gives me a headache
[13:26] <foobarry> ..aaaaand i'm back to elementary
[13:26] <foobarry> maybe i'll just reinstall and hope it fixes my laptop issues
[13:30] <SuperMatt> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zpgQpdy_fI
[13:33] <foobarry> well i know what gives the best UI experience.
[13:33] <foobarry> just experiencing some hardware type issues that may or may not affect other buntus
[13:34] <popey> I was quite impressed with Ubuntu MATE and the way you can change the UI to look like unity or elementary
[13:36] <SuperMatt> I'm quite happy with Fedora at the moment, but if Canonical manage to make Gnome Shell better, I may well switch (especially for better graphics driver support)
[13:36] <penguin42> hmm not tried that, just kept it simple as old Gnome2
[13:39] <ali1234> the arch cartoons in that video are pretty funny
[13:40] <ali1234> how many unity forks are there now then?
[13:40] <ali1234> i've seen about five different ones
[14:05] <foobarry> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/make-gnome-shell-look-feel-like-unity heh
[14:06] <foobarry> oh its copy paste of https://kryogenix.org/days/2017/04/05/making-gnome-shell-feel-like-unity/
[14:13] <foobarry> SuperMatt: any gnome shell crashes?
[14:13] <foobarry> i remember alt-f2 r <enter> being a big thing in early days
[14:13] <foobarry> and enabling extensions one by one to see the crasher
[14:17] <foobarry> http://imgur.com/a/Vvehr linux visitors read more pages
[14:17] <ali1234> i saw it freeze twice today and i'm just kicking the tyres
[14:17] <foobarry> thats my previous experience a few yrs ago
[14:17] <foobarry> on usb live or disk install?
[14:17] <ali1234> i right clicked on something and the whole thing froze, then about 20 seconds later it restarted
[14:17] <ali1234> disk install
[14:22] <foobarry> eww
[14:22] <daftykins> what did that?
[14:22] <ali1234> gnome-shell
[14:23] <daftykins> ah right, is that the same as gnome3 o0
[14:23] <SuperMatt> foobarry: very rarely use it today, except in cases where I install a theme and need to reload
[14:23] <ali1234> yes
[14:25] <foobarry> ali1234: which extensions in use?
[14:28] <ali1234> applications menu, places indicator, window list
[14:28] <foobarry> nothing too exotic
[14:29] <ali1234> all of them are supposed to be officially supported as part of classic mode
[14:29] <ali1234> but i get the feeling they make classic mode deliberately not work properly
[14:29] <foobarry> what is classic mode?
[14:30] <foobarry> new name for failback mode?
[14:30] <ali1234> it is a set of extensions that make gnome-shell look like a default gnome 2 layout
[14:30] <ali1234> you get a window list and workspace switcher at the bottom
[14:30] <ali1234> and you get an application menu instead of activities
[14:30] <ali1234> you can't move any of them though
[14:31] <ali1234> and the activities menu can only be on the primary monitor, nowhere else
[14:31] <ali1234> its what you see in the screenshot i posted earlier
[14:36] <foobarry> https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/76542419/conspiracy-cat-what-if-cancelling-unity-was-a-plan-to-make-it-more-popular.jpg
[14:41] <ali1234> lol at yunit folks realising just how much work they will have to do to make unity run on wayland
[14:44] <ali1234> its going to be funny watching them collide with wayland project
[15:17]  * penguin42 must try and see if there's any xfce work for wayland and see if I can help
[15:17]  * penguin42 has to finish some other impossible projects first though
[15:17] <daftykins> :D
[15:17] <daftykins> the best kind!
[15:18] <foobarry> probably better to hack gnome shell to look more like unity
[15:18] <foobarry> global menu sucks anyway
[15:45] <davmor2> I can haz power
[15:45] <davmor2> hello electricity oh how I've missed you
[15:46] <penguin42> ah
[16:53] <Hurthfoo> Hi. Are there any firewalls that prompt the user to allow/deny on outgoing connections?
[16:57]  * penguin42 doesn't know of any
[16:59] <Hurthfoo> Thanks. I've been directed to Douane
[19:39] <diddledan> apparently downloads are running out: https://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/851519599627575296
[19:39] <diddledan> get your downloads now in case we run out
[19:40] <zmoylan-pi> proably limited by an integer counter... once they hit 32000... :-P
[19:42] <diddledan> 32000 is a weird number to fail on
[19:42] <diddledan> :-p
[19:42] <zmoylan-pi> not so much :-) https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10558540/vba-macro-crashes-after-32000-rows
[19:42] <diddledan> I think you meant 32767
[19:43] <zmoylan-pi> i'm rounding down out of politeness and to flush out the ocd folk... ::makes note of diddledan's id::
[19:45]  * diddledan makes a point of mentioning that I even accounted for the number being one-less-than 32*1024 because the usual "friendly" binary numbers (e.g. 32768) are actually from the next cycle
[19:46]  * zmoylan-pi underlines diddledan on list in red...
[19:47] <diddledan> lol @ video encoding going at about 0.3x realtime
[19:47] <diddledan> 12.5% done, 4.5 hours to go
[19:47] <diddledan> maybe I chose too high a quality
[19:48] <zmoylan-pi> i was amazed first time i ripped a dvd and it ripped quicker than the playtime of the dvd...
[19:48] <zmoylan-pi> i was so used to overnight ripping on ancient mac mini
[19:49] <diddledan> was that before libdvdcss existed?
[19:49] <zmoylan-pi> no i'm pretty sure i still have that on a t-shirt somewhere which was older than the mac mini
[19:51] <diddledan> oh Buck! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39560646
[19:52]  * zmoylan-pi resets number of days for a school shooting to 0
[20:07] <diddledan> you can't rollback your iThingy away from APFS (filesystem) https://9to5mac.com/2017/04/10/apple-stops-signing-ios-10-2-1-preventing-downgrades-apfs/
[20:10] <zmoylan-pi> no backsies!!
[20:52]  * zmoylan-pi puts on dab radio to see what npr mentions about united passender handling...
[21:54] <daftykins> i nearly lost one of the girls today - http://i.imgur.com/Ox3C0x8.jpg
[21:55] <daftykins> shot out the front door when i opened it :)
[22:34] <zmoylan-pi> hopefully the moggies are chipped in case they get lost
[22:34] <daftykins> probably :>
[22:35] <daftykins> poor little guys are almost on their own for 2 weeks right now as my client, wife and kid are down in the Spain apartment for easter
[22:36] <zmoylan-pi> cats are fairly resiliant compared to dogs... dogs need company, a cat is grand as long as theirs food, a litter box and a window to watch the world
[22:37] <penguin42> or an Amazon account
[22:37] <daftykins> yip, or a daftykins to troll
[22:37] <daftykins> they have a dog too though :| hah
[23:00] <diddledan> why doesn't IRC have a +1 button yet?!
[23:01]  * diddledan just looked for it on daftykins' second to last comment
[23:01] <diddledan> I been facebooking too much
[23:02] <penguin42> it's actually an interesting hard problem - you need something to aggregate the +1's and distribute the totals
[23:02] <daftykins> ;)
[23:03] <diddledan> I say we all move to slack
[23:03] <diddledan> :-p
[23:03] <zmoylan-pi> there are bots for irc to do that....
[23:03] <zmoylan-pi> i'v seen them in some channels
[23:03] <penguin42> karma bots for people, not sure about for actual messages
[23:34] <daftykins> wow just had this shared in another chan - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9FqD4bXcAAyzFo.jpg
[23:35] <penguin42> daftykins: Nod, scary isn't it
[23:35] <penguin42> daftykins: Now, tell me about your mother
[23:35] <daftykins> Let me tell you about my mother...
[23:36] <daftykins> :>
[23:36] <daftykins> i wonder if they're going to ruin it with the upcoming sequel
[23:37] <diddledan> they're bound to try adjusting the timeline
[23:40]  * penguin42 did see it in a cinema for the first time about a year ago, it was great - nice to see it on the big screen
[23:47] <daftykins> i'd almost toss the Vangelis soundtrack on, buuuut it's already 1am nearly
[23:47] <penguin42> and it does need to be loud
[23:47] <daftykins> hehe
[23:47]  * daftykins pats the vinyl rip
[23:48] <daftykins> oh i finally got my last quote today btw, £11,700 for the bathroom by the looks :| submit them to the insurance adjuster this afternoon
[23:48] <penguin42> what happened?
[23:48] <daftykins> water leak
[23:49] <daftykins> rotten joist and damaged plasterboard amongst other things
[23:49] <daftykins> discovered it in the new year, but it's taken until now to get through some of the rubbish
[23:49] <penguin42> ouch, slow leak?
[23:49] <daftykins> next i have to get quotes for accomodation for me and the cat... plus wait on what they're going to pay
[23:49] <daftykins> yep
[23:50] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/lq2pz43hvi4519z/IMG_20170121_162824.jpg?dl=0
[23:50] <daftykins> good snap there
[23:51] <penguin42> seems an inconvenient place to leak - waste water?
[23:51] <daftykins> both that and the thermostatic valve in the stud wall, yip
[23:52] <daftykins> oh actually it wasn't really the waste in the end but the wall sealant inside the shower enclosure allowing a leak out behind the tiles and onto the joist
[23:52] <daftykins> on the 19th i'll have been without a shower for 3 months
[23:52] <penguin42> ouch
[23:53] <daftykins> that's why i see the kittens so much, i go up there to shower XD
[23:55]  * penguin42 doesn't understand that logic
[23:56] <daftykins> hmm? client lets me use a spare bathroom :>
[23:56] <penguin42> how much do they charge for the kitten access?
[23:57] <daftykins> hahaha