[12:37] <lrojas> hi all
[12:38] <lrojas> in preparation to the switch of ubuntu from unity + mir to gnome
[12:38] <lrojas> i would like to switch now to xubuntu
[12:38] <lrojas> what is the best way to transform ubuntu 16.10 to xubuntu 16.10 ?
[12:40] <pmjdebruijn> uhm
[12:40] <pmjdebruijn> mir was never used outside of mobile
[12:40] <pmjdebruijn> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop (probably)
[12:40] <pmjdebruijn> never tried it myself though
[12:41] <lrojas> ok, my mistake, i thought mir was going to be the base for unity 8
[12:41] <pmjdebruijn> it was
[12:41] <pmjdebruijn> but current unity is just on plain xorg
[12:41] <lrojas> but my question is still valid i think... how do i turn ubuntu into xubuntu?
[12:41] <pmjdebruijn> see the apt line
[12:41] <pmjdebruijn> I would probably just reinstall though
[12:41] <lrojas> what is the apt line?
[12:42] <pmjdebruijn> 14:40 < pmjdebruijn> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop (probably)
[12:42] <pmjdebruijn> not sure if that switches everything over
[12:42] <lrojas> reinstalling is a difficult proposition as i have a ton of setup and configuration files that would be a pita to move, plus this is the work computer
[12:43] <pmjdebruijn> heh... whatever you want
[12:43] <stevehope> upgrade in place
[12:44] <pmjdebruijn> he's going from same version to same version
[12:44] <pmjdebruijn> so that likely won't be any different from aptting xubuntu-desktop
[12:45] <lrojas> i saw this link that sort of explains it for 16.04
[12:45] <lrojas> https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj0y7u79JnTAhVG3IMKHaYrCsIQFggoMAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Feasylinuxtipsproject%2Falternative&usg=AFQjCNGQcoThDCm-8P5knQwM80VTWgoNwg&bvm=bv.152174688,d.amc
[12:45] <lrojas> sorry
[12:45] <lrojas> this link
[12:45] <lrojas> https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/alternative
[12:45] <pmjdebruijn> that's more or less what I said
[12:45] <pmjdebruijn> with a cleanup added
[12:45] <lrojas> yes
[12:46] <lrojas> but they add things like leafpad and synaptic
[12:46] <stevehope> not quite,, he's upgrading to xubuntu-desktop-amd64 from Ubuntu Desktop amd64
[12:46] <lrojas> gksu
[12:46] <lrojas> stevehope: yes
[12:46] <pmjdebruijn> stevehope: same thing, aside from a few pacakges
[12:47] <pmjdebruijn> or am I missing something
[12:47] <stevehope> although they share the same kernal, xubuntu includes xcfe as the GUI
[12:47] <pmjdebruijn> obviously
[12:47] <pmjdebruijn> that's what I meant with "a few packages"
[12:47] <lrojas> pmjdebruijn: no, well... i just want to make sure that i dont put things i dont need nor forget things i do need.. so i am looking to make the in-place change as close to having installed from the start as possible
[12:47] <pmjdebruijn> and more or shared then just the kernel
[12:47] <pmjdebruijn> is*
[12:48] <stevehope> i'm aware, I was answering his question on how-to
[12:49] <stevehope> insert live image, intalation type upgade (first option in list)
[12:51] <lrojas> ohh... that could work nicely
[12:57] <stevehope> Ubuntu + Xfce = Xunbuntu
[13:01] <stevehope> excuse the typos, need more coffee
[13:49] <NEETWizard> I'm having trouble changing the aspect ratio on my Wacom drawing tablet. the instructions online for either changing the area or a Coordinate Transformation Matrix don't have any effect.
[13:49] <NEETWizard> I managed to map it to just 1 of my 2 monitors, but that's all.
[14:11] <knome> what would those instructions be?
[14:11] <knome> i use xsetwacom myself to restrict to the other monitor, but you could restrict it to any area you want with that command
[14:11] <knome> (at least theoretically, i've never wanted anything more granular than a monitor
[14:24] <NEETWizard> I tried various Yscale settings for xinput set-prop "Wacom Intuos 6x8 Pen cursor" --type=float "Coordinate Transformation Matrix" 0.5 0 0 0 0.5 0 0 0 1
[14:24] <NEETWizard> as well as xsetwacom --set 12 Area 0 0 20320 12700
[14:25] <NEETWizard> xsetwacom --get "Wacom Intuos 6x8 Pen stylus" Area giving results of 20320 16240
[14:25] <NEETWizard> trying to finish WoW dailies
[14:36] <knome> NEETWizard, i do something like ->  xsetwacom set "Device name" "Area" "1 2 3 4"  <- note the quoting style; valeus are bogus
[14:40] <NEETWizard> alright, I'll try playing with quotes. although I did see my Area and Matrix values change.
[14:42] <knome> oh, also, looks like i'm setting the area separately for stylus, eraser and cursor
[14:42] <knome> (as you also seem to do)
[14:42] <knome> there was some reason why it wasn't working the way i wanted with just the device name...
[14:42] <knome> ...but that's a long time ago
[14:47] <NEETWizard> yeah
[15:54] <NEETWizard> ... my mistake. both my commands don't seem to be changing the settings. I thought they were.
[15:57] <NEETWizard> oh wait no, it is changing it. I was looking at "pen stylus" while changing "pen cursor". but still...
[15:58] <NEETWizard> changing both the area and matrix for "pen cursor" isn't having any effect on the behavior of the tablet. :(
[16:09] <NEETWizard> oh... did I get it to work? I think I just needed to set it for all 3. or maybe one of them was more important than the others.
[16:11] <NEETWizard> yup. looks like the stylus controls all of them, regardless of the cursor and eraser.
[18:30] <xubuntu50w> I have xubuntu 16.04 and a new hp 7640 envy printer but it does not recognize the 4x6 photo tray, help
[18:40] <diogenes_> did u look for drivers?
[18:58] <xangua> There's this metapackage called printers-all I believe
[19:02] <diogenes_> and hplip
[19:20] <xangua> The metapackage installs it as well
[19:21] <xangua> But I think he left