| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 03:26 |
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| OerHeks | hi lotuspsychje | 03:28 |
| OerHeks | going to bed soon ... | 03:28 |
| lotuspsychje | hey OerHeks | 03:28 |
| lotuspsychje | OerHeks: didnt sleep yet? | 03:28 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: \0 . sure is lonesome in #lotuscomputers :P | 03:28 |
| OerHeks | nope :-( | 03:28 |
| lotuspsychje | hey Bashing-om | 03:28 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: sunshine, much work in the kitchen :p | 03:29 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Busy mind keeps the devil away ;) | 03:29 |
| lotuspsychje | and an apple also | 03:29 |
| lotuspsychje | does ubuntu-gnome already use wayland on 16.04? | 03:30 |
| lotuspsychje | !wayland | 03:31 |
| ubot5 | Wayland is a display server protocol that is intended to replace X. More information can be found at http://wayland.freedesktop.org/ . Ubuntu is instead focusing on development of !Mir; see its factoid for more information. | 03:31 |
| Menzador | lotuspsychje: Is there's a "GNOME on Wayland" session, you'd have to manually select it. | 03:40 |
| Menzador | None of the GNOME versions Ubuntu ships have the Wayland session by default | 03:40 |
| lotuspsychje | ah | 03:40 |
| lotuspsychje | Menzador: lets say someone installs ubuntu-gnome 16.04 right now, will he be getting automatic updated to 18.04 gnome with wayland then? | 03:42 |
| Menzador | Automatic? No. | 03:42 |
| Menzador | Will 18.04 have a GNOME release that uses Wayland as default? Probably. | 03:42 |
| lotuspsychje | Menzador: yeah well i mean, have the choice | 03:42 |
| Menzador | At that point in time we should have the next version of GNOME (whatever comes after 3.24, whether that's being called 3.26 or 4.0 I'm not sure) | 03:43 |
| lotuspsychje | if gnome will be default ubuntu desktop, its pretty the same as ubuntu-gnome right now right? except for wayland then | 03:44 |
| Menzador | Looks like 3.26 it will be | 03:44 |
| Menzador | lotuspsychje: It will ultimately depend on what the release team wants put into it. | 03:44 |
| Menzador | I'd say darkxst would have a good roadmap for that, or jbicha | 03:44 |
| lotuspsychje | im asking because of making users already confortable with gnome right now | 03:44 |
| Menzador | Hopefully 3.26 itself will make it into 17.10 | 03:45 |
| Menzador | if not it will definitely be in 18.04 LTS | 03:45 |
| lotuspsychje | kk | 03:45 |
| Menzador | It depends on whether Ubuntu and GNOME are going to coordinate releases again. | 03:45 |
| lotuspsychje | im curious | 03:47 |
| lotuspsychje | Menzador: mark said he will leave the gnome guys alone, and not making a tuned something else | 03:47 |
| Menzador | So that most certainly means you'll have to wait for 3.26 until 18.04. | 03:48 |
| Menzador | However, my 2ยข is that if in 17.10 we can get as much of actual 3.24 without patched Ubuntu whatters-now in there, we're golden | 03:48 |
| lotuspsychje | that might be prudent indeed | 03:49 |
| lotuspsychje | the problem is my users all pretty used to unity7 atm | 03:49 |
| lotuspsychje | will be shocking at 18.04 | 03:50 |
| Menzador | lotuspsychje: MATE might be a good migration option if you're at liberty to do so | 03:50 |
| lotuspsychje | Menzador: i need something vanilla and stable for my users | 03:51 |
| Menzador | Well, we didn't patch MATE with a maze of whatters-nows | 03:52 |
| Menzador | or KDE for that matter :) | 03:52 |
| Menzador | Although if you're looking for something that is pure GNOME goodness, I'd try another distro altogether. | 03:53 |
| lotuspsychje | Menzador: im too dedicated to ubuntu, ill try the 18.04 for sure | 03:54 |
| Menzador | Hopefully the GNOME will be pure there, now that Unity patches won't be needed | 03:55 |
| Menzador | In the past I've used Arch Linux with GNOME, about as pure as you can get. It looks raw around the edges without the usual pre-configured tweaks, but otherwise it's quite stunning. | 03:56 |
| lotuspsychje | vanilla is good | 03:57 |
| lotuspsychje | i surely wont take the unity7 road, if im not 100% sure til get nice updates n such | 03:57 |
| lotuspsychje | even if it hits the repos | 03:57 |
| lotuspsychje | working day, laterz guys | 05:01 |
| ducasse | good morning | 06:24 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 12:19 |
| OerHeks | Hi there BluesKaj | 12:23 |
| BluesKaj | Hey OerHeks | 12:27 |
| ducasse | hi BluesKaj - up and at'em! :) | 12:36 |
| immu | hi all | 12:43 |
| immu | BluesKaj: hi | 12:50 |
| BluesKaj | hi immu | 13:09 |
| immu | BluesKaj: whats up | 13:21 |
| BluesKaj | immu: installing some networking packages etc | 13:27 |
| immu | kubuntu? BluesKaj | 13:31 |
| BluesKaj | on debian atm | 13:32 |
| BluesKaj | BBL | 13:33 |
| immu | how is debian? BluesKaj everything works? | 13:43 |
| immu | No LSB modules are available. | 13:51 |
| immu | Distributor ID:Ubuntu | 13:51 |
| immu | Description:Ubuntu 17.04 | 13:51 |
| immu | Release:17.04 | 13:51 |
| immu | Codename:zesty | 13:51 |
| BluesKaj | immu: i'm still installing packages , but so far so good. | 14:13 |
| immu | on debain i suppose? blue | 14:14 |
| immu | BluesKaj: on debain i suppose? | 14:15 |
| immu | Failed to download software updates? any reason | 14:17 |
| BluesKaj | immu: ask in #ubuntu | 14:36 |
| immu | BluesKaj: ok | 14:36 |
| nacc | morning all | 14:55 |
| ducasse | \o nacc | 15:01 |
| immu | ducasse: BluesKaj nacc Good evening here | 15:03 |
| BluesKaj | hey nacc | 15:29 |
| nacc | how are folks doing? | 15:29 |
| nacc | seems like finally the unity madness is dying down and this is the 'new normal' again :) | 15:30 |
| baizon | i dont want gnome! | 15:30 |
| baizon | now i have to switch to kde :/ | 15:30 |
| nacc | lol | 15:30 |
| baizon | i love unity | 15:30 |
| nacc | you can keep using unity | 15:30 |
| nacc | unity7, that is | 15:30 |
| baizon | not really | 15:30 |
| nacc | why not? | 15:31 |
| baizon | for 1 year max | 15:31 |
| nacc | huh? | 15:31 |
| nacc | it just won't be the default desktop | 15:31 |
| baizon | because i bet with gnome, ubuntu will switch to wayland. There is no unity for wayland | 15:31 |
| nacc | unity will be in the repositories for probably ever | 15:31 |
| nacc | there will be some effort to make it work, i'm sure | 15:31 |
| baizon | unity only works with X11 | 15:31 |
| baizon | not really, because then compiz also needs to be ported | 15:32 |
| baizon | and thats to much effort for unity7 | 15:32 |
| baizon | thats why i wanted unity8, but thats needs much time to get stable | 15:33 |
| BluesKaj | thank the Lord KDE/Plasma is supported by Blue Systems now | 15:34 |
| nacc | baizon: ok, there is a year and that's a long time in the open source world, i'm not so pessimistic | 15:34 |
| nacc | but i also don't use unity | 15:34 |
| baizon | no chance, without a company there is no chance for a community unity until 20.04 | 15:36 |
| xangua | There's already a fork | 15:36 |
| baizon | yes there is with a 0.0.1 version | 15:36 |
| baizon | im watching it on githubn | 15:36 |
| ducasse | i am quite sure x will still be there for both 18.04 and 20.04... | 15:36 |
| xangua | That's both sad and funny | 15:37 |
| ducasse | nonetheless, true | 15:37 |
| xangua | Is there a German word for that feeling? | 15:38 |
| nacc | schadenfreude | 15:39 |
| nacc | sort of | 15:39 |
| xangua | Just reading that word makes me feel that way | 15:40 |
| nacc | literally shame-happiness | 15:40 |
| nacc | but it is more taking pleasure out of pain, iirc | 15:40 |
| ducasse | 'schade' = 'injury', i think | 15:41 |
| ducasse | we have the same word, 'skade' | 15:41 |
| nacc | "pleasure derived by someone from another person's misfortune." | 15:41 |
| nacc | yeah, 'harm' generally | 15:42 |
| nacc | harm-joy literarlly, then -- been a while since i translated german :( | 15:42 |
| OerHeks | ducasse, do you have a roll of tape ? | 15:55 |
| OerHeks | http://imgur.com/gallery/c8ovV | 15:55 |
| ducasse | a roll of tape? what did you break? | 15:55 |
| ducasse | let me get back to you on that one :) | 15:56 |
| OerHeks | yes please | 15:57 |
| nicomachus | OerHeks: my cats would definitely do that | 15:57 |
| ducasse | see if it works with dogs also. | 15:57 |
| OerHeks | it does not work with chihuahuas | 15:57 |
| nicomachus | one sec, texting gf | 15:57 |
| OerHeks | * unless i put his food bowl in it | 15:58 |
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| * nacc just wants to have the ability slap users | 16:55 | |
| nacc | is that so much to ask? | 16:55 |
| daftykins | well, then they could slap back :( and given they're mostly troll idiots, that'd be a bad one :> | 16:56 |
| nacc | for context, fugee on #ubuntu claiming it's a conspiracy that `cp` sets the ctime on the target file | 16:56 |
| daftykins | sounds like he or she needs to relax with some Fugees | 16:58 |
| nacc | daftykins: good idea, /me plays some here | 16:59 |
| daftykins | :> | 16:59 |
| OerHeks | i'll mail him an United voucher, oke? | 17:03 |
| nacc | lol | 17:03 |
| daftykins | ;D | 17:03 |
| nacc | that's a nice threat :) | 17:03 |
| daftykins | i was just watching videos of that incident, heard it on the radio today | 17:03 |
| OerHeks | Thank you for flying #freenode ... errr wait | 17:03 |
| OerHeks | daftykins, remember this one? https://www.dropbox.com/s/fki8c5td32glcv2/2017spring.JPG?dl=0 | 17:05 |
| OerHeks | update today >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/hfn76t6vfwflmnh/2017spring2.JPG?dl=0 | 17:06 |
| daftykins | yay :D nice | 17:07 |
| daftykins | very green | 17:07 |
| daftykins | oop patch tuesday has just kicked off, having reached 6pm | 17:08 |
| daftykins | must reboot this host | 17:09 |
| ducasse | prefixing your question (that you first asked a couple of minutes earlier) with 'NOTICE ME!' is just *so* appealing... | 17:10 |
| nacc | heh | 17:10 |
| poinku | Rofl the top comment says pinterest was wrong it is a rectangle | 21:59 |
| poinku | LMAO | 21:59 |
| daftykins | ? | 22:00 |
| poinku | OerHeks' url | 22:00 |
| poinku | On April 11 2017 | 22:01 |
| poinku | Sorry it was from my Log | 22:01 |
| poinku | I didn't pay attention | 22:01 |
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