[02:09] <Jack> anyone know why this happens? http://i.imgur.com/VWfIxQ2.png
[02:10] <sarnold> Jack: leave off the /
[02:10] <sarnold> Jack: / says to start the directory search from the filesystem root /
[02:10] <sarnold> Jack: but the directory appears to be in /home/teamspeak/
[02:10] <sarnold> s/in/named/
[02:11] <Jack> oh okay i have never had a problem before and it let me do it weird
[02:11] <Jack> Thank you
[06:33] <Mead> why would installing a CLI utility require installing x windows?
[06:35] <sarnold> some programs can do different things via X but don't dynamically load the various libraries
[06:36] <sarnold> sometimes it's just a package provides both commandline and graphical tools and therefore requires the graphics libraries to make sure the program works rather than dies.
[06:41] <Mead> this is frustrating,  cause I'm trying to keep the ubuntu-server footprint really small to allow for me to pass on more resources to my VM's
[06:45] <sarnold> make sure you've got a gigabyte or two of space for swap so unused memory can be shoved to disk
[07:03] <Mead> what is the best method to create KVM-QEMU VM's with just CIL?
[07:04] <sarnold> virsh is the usual approach
[07:04] <sarnold> I can't ever figure out how to drive the thing
[07:05] <Mead> err cli...
[10:33] <xok> hello all...
[10:34] <xok> I've got a PXE boot server with preseed configuration file in place...
[10:35] <xok> is there a chance for automatic installator (throug d-i ) to dynamically alocate physical disks and partition them?.
[10:35] <xok> I mean not to provide the actual names in the preseed.cfg file...
[11:05] <TafThorne> xok: is that something the whole Metal as a Service stuff deals with?  (which isn't PXE) but is Ubuntu related.
[11:06] <TafThorne> It might be possible to use PXE to do something similar but I am not that big a user of it.  The MaaS thing just popped into my head while I read what you were asking.
[12:04] <Aison> any body experienced with overlayfs here?
[12:04] <maswan> A little bit, but only for singularity-container use
[12:05] <Aison> I merged a readonly lowerdir with a rw upperdir and workdir
[12:05] <Aison> the strange thing is now, that only the root of the merged dir is writable
[12:05] <Aison> all subdirectories are not
[12:05] <Aison> even as root
[12:06] <maswan> not much clue there from me, sorry
[12:06] <maswan> other than possibly somthing about shared
[12:10] <Aison> ok :-)
[12:14] <Aison> ok, it looks like a bug with nfs as lowerdir
[12:14] <Aison> is there an alternative to overlayfs?
[16:23] <bildz> Good morning, is anyone actively using ISCSI boot targets with MAAS?
[16:24] <nacc> blake_r: --^ ? :)
[16:30]  * med_ looks around to see if there is anyone still in here....
[16:38] <nacc> med_: ?
[16:38] <med_> a lot of pink slips at Canonical the past few days.
[16:38] <nacc> med_: ok
[16:39] <nacc> med_: this is a support channel :)
[16:39] <patdk-wk> that supports pink slips?
[16:40] <nacc> trees and dye
[16:40] <nacc> i guess?
[16:45] <med_> erm, this is the #ubuntu-server channel. Not really a support channel as per se. It's a "community" channel and that community includes a lot of Canonical and ex-Canonical.
[16:45] <med_> Ie, the title says "Discussion and support" for instance.
[16:47] <nacc> med_: right, i agree with you, sorry
[16:48] <nacc> med_: so not sure why you brought up something about canonical
[17:14] <skits> I am using 16.04 (64)server:  Trying to find out if there is a difference in how 16+(tried 04/10) handles webserver naming/ips as compared to 14(04/10). I loaded up 14.04 on my test server and have no issues with vhost displaying dns (16+ seems to only display public ip) but 16+ seems to only display the public ip. Any info, links, or pointers on the subject specific to only 16+?
[17:16] <nacc> skits: a few follow-on questions -- do you mean that if you run a process (say dig) on your 14.04 server, you get differnt results than the same server with 16.04?
[17:16] <nacc> skits: or is it specificaly only having some difference in behavior with vhosts?
[17:18] <skits> Right now it seems to only really affect how it displays ip/dns in user browsers and its ability to trigger webapp functions(based on dns). Everything else functions just fine. Only vhost seems to be affected directly
[17:18] <nacc> skits: and which webserver are you using?
[17:21] <skits> I tried both nginx and apache. I am more familiar bar far with apache but the basic setup on nginx to test is easy enough just to test results.
[17:21] <nacc> skits: ok, i'm not super familiar with vhosts ,let me do some self-education
[17:22] <skits> Copy, thank you for your time nacc.
[17:22] <nacc> skits: so ... what do you see as the end user? can you clarify the bugginess you see?
[17:22] <nacc> skits: like a concrete example -- I navigate to http://whatever.com and it doesn't work, or it redirects and fails or somethinfg
[17:23] <skits> I can only see public ip and iterations such as 00.00.00.00/this page or 00.00.00.00/this/page
[17:23] <nacc> skits: ah, you can't get to them by hostname at all?
[17:23] <skits> http://67.205.132.87/solder/repo/ might be helpful
[17:24] <skits> host name instantly deflects to ip (such as solder.storagedragon.com or storagedragon.com or repo.storagedragon.com)
[17:24] <nacc> skits: ah, and you expect it to stay as hostname?
[17:26] <skits> Correct. If it does not then it weill not trigger certain web apps or differentiate between the subdomains
[17:26] <nacc> right, that makes sense
[17:27] <nacc> so i'm guessing this might be a change in behavior in apache2 (but not sure) -- you went from 2.4.7 to 2.4.18 (or so)
[17:27] <skits> That very well could be. I am using apache2 atm but it was also present in nginx which is why I asked here(ubuntu) first.
[17:28] <nacc> sure
[17:28] <nacc> i mean, i'm not sure that it's an ubuntu thing (in that, afaict, the vhost stuff is all in the webserver(s))
[17:29] <skits> I was thinking so, was hoping it was an easy thing within ubuntu that would fix both at the same time. I will delve deper into the newer version apache/nginx then. Thank you sooo much for your time nacc!
[17:30] <nacc> skits: np, stick around here, there are often more experienced people than I :)
[17:30] <nacc> teward: --^ maybe you know or know where to look
[17:31] <skits> I used to live in these channels but was on hi-aitus for a year. I just never had to ask questions much. lol
[17:32] <nacc> skits: not a problem, just need to think about it a bit, you should be able to find the apache changelogs online (i wouldn't necessarily use the debian/ubuntu package ones, but hte upstream ones)
[17:32] <nacc> skits: that it happens with nginx as well seems odd, but i'm not sure how that works
[17:33] <nacc> skits: i'm assuming the vhost configs have thigns like ServerName and ServerAlias set, etc?
[17:33] <skits> Ya, thats why I actually had to ask. lmao. Was sure how to word my question for google to pull out relevant results. lmao
[17:34] <nacc> skits: and i wonder if the apache logs say anything?
[17:35] <skits> Nothing relevant to this. Just errors for other stuff since events won't trigger properly without correct name. lol
[17:35] <nacc> skits: ok
[17:35] <skits> Might even be how my registrar is forwarding dns! brb. Gonna check cname/a records and see.
[17:36] <nacc> skits: yeah, that could be
[17:52] <skits> grrr, I am so sorry for wasting time. It was an issue with godaddy (Never normally use their nameservers, just their domain names).  the rest shoudl be an easy fix. thank you!
[17:52] <skits> Uhg, I cant wait till my names expire and I can take them elsewhere. lol
[18:05] <nacc> skits: np! glad you were able to resolve it
[19:22] <bildz> we just spent 30k on support
[19:22] <bildz> they better NOT be laying off people
[19:22] <bildz> at least their ISCSI guy!!!
[19:31] <nacc> bildz: ?
[19:41] <bildz> nacc: hey
[19:43] <nacc> bildz: hiya! just seeing if there was any server stuff you needed; or just general commentary there :)
[19:49] <bildz> nacc: i actually do need some server asstance around IBFT and how horribly UNDOCUMENTED it is and apparent lack of debian support
[19:50] <nacc> heh
[19:50] <nacc> bildz: what kind of environment? what OS?
[19:50] <bildz> so I have redhat installed and will be scouring through dmesg
[19:51] <bildz> nacc: 16.04 LTS, pure storage, and MAAS :D
[19:51] <nacc> bildz: ok, so 16.04 guest with iscsi root?
[19:51] <bildz> correct
[19:52] <bildz> 24 Cisco B series M4's
[19:52] <nacc> bildz: and what is happening in the guest? no root detected?
[19:52] <bildz> going to be standing up MAAS + juju
[19:52] <bildz> nacc: correct
[19:52] <nacc> bildz: does it have network?
[19:52] <nacc> bildz: when it fails to find root, that is
[19:52] <nacc> does it drop you to a shell?
[19:52] <bildz> we haven't been able to find any iscsi targets
[19:52] <bildz> even with a fully installed operating system
[19:53] <bekks> Do the M4's support IBFT?
[19:53] <bildz> yes
[19:53] <bildz> http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/unified_computing/ucs/sw/gui/config/guide/2-2/b_UCSM_GUI_Configuration_Guide_2_2/b_UCSM_GUI_Configuration_Guide_2_2_chapter_011111.pdf
[19:53] <nacc> bildz: oh so even within a non-iscsi root guest, you can't see iscsi disks? what command did you try?
[19:54] <bildz> iscsistart -b
[19:54] <bildz> iscsi -n  "should pull the IQN from the hardware"
[19:55] <bildz> iscsistart -n
[19:55] <nacc> i don't see an iscsistart -n option in 17.04, let me spin up a 16.04
[19:55] <nacc> bildz: if you use iscsiadm and run discovery, does it work?
[19:56] <bildz> tried iscsiadm, but can do it again if you have some guidelines
[19:56] <nacc> bildz: does iscsistart -b report any errors? or just nothing?
[19:56] <nacc> bildz: something like
[19:56] <nacc> iscsiadm -m discovery -p ip:port
[19:56] <nacc> where ip and port are the iscsi portal
[19:58] <bildz> one sec we'll check
[19:58] <bildz> making some notes of what RHEL is seeing right now so we can attempt to port
[19:59] <nacc> sure
[20:00] <nacc> i don't have a ton of experience with iscsi root (yet) but i wrote the new support in curtin for iscsi non-root disks
[20:00] <nacc> so i have been playing with iscsiadm and tgt quite a bit
[20:00] <bildz> oh nice!
[20:00] <bildz> well I will be happy to keep you in the loop with our progress
[20:00] <bildz> im documenting for a blog
[20:01] <nacc> bildz: that'd be great, as i'd like to make this all a bit easier (i also found it quite painful)
[20:01] <bildz> i couldn't agree more
[20:01] <bildz> i love hardware, said nobody ever
[20:01] <nacc> :)
[20:03] <bildz> 2.0-8734 is the version of iscsiadm on 16.04
[20:03] <bildz> RHEL is at 6.8
[20:04] <bildz> ubuntu cannot read the firmware off the hardware
[20:04] <nacc> ah
[20:04] <nacc> so a driver issue?
[20:05] <nacc> i'm not sure at what level the ibft support is supposed to be implemented, tbh
[20:05] <bildz> i know
[20:05] <bildz> im working if I can just build a new ramdisk with a more current version
[20:05] <bildz> wondering*
[20:06] <nacc> bildz: which 16.04 kernel are you using? 16.04.1 (4.4) or 16.04.2 (4.8)?
[20:07] <bildz> 4.8 hwe - edge
[20:07] <nacc> bildz: ok
[20:07] <nacc> bildz: do you get an error in dmesg indicating it can't read the ibft data?
[20:08] <bildz> checking
[20:09] <bildz> doesn't look like any dmesg errors
[20:13] <nacc> bildz: anything in /sys/firmware/ibft ?
[20:22] <bildz> we're building IBFT now
[20:27] <nacc> bildz: ok
[20:27] <nacc> bildz: my understanding is the kernel puts the ibft data it finds in /sys/firmware/ibft
[20:27] <nacc> and i *think* that might exist regardless of the ibft driver, but i'm not sure
[20:31] <bildz> ill be around though, nacc
[20:31] <bildz> thanks for your help!
[20:59] <nacc> bildz: np, and ping me anytime for iscsi help
[22:45] <nacc> Odd_Bloke: where did we end up landing with LP: #1569237 ?
[22:45] <nacc> Odd_Bloke: did we just decide to not do anything?
[22:47] <yotux> I have a ubunut server install runing web services, would to be too much to add vpn and kvm hosting?
[23:31] <yotux> I have an ubuntu server running lvm using lvm snapshots a good backup method?
[23:31] <sarnold> it may be useful but it's not backups
[23:32] <sarnold> or do you mean that you would use that computer as a backup target from other computers?
[23:33] <yotux> I'm running owncloud / alfresco at the moment had I use rsync to backup those directs up along with mysql dumps
[23:33] <yotux> I was looking to add kvm to the server and need to resized some lv and I can across lv snapshots...
[23:33] <sarnold> just meditate on this a bit and it'll probably become clear :) https://twitter.com/leyrer/status/847816162557689857
[23:34] <yotux> I currently use external USB hard drive to store files off site...