[09:21] <raph_ael> about the yesterday's discussion about ubuntu phone future, is there any really open source phone os ?
[09:24] <k1l> you mean on the market right now or as code?
[09:24] <raph_ael> on the market
[09:24] <raph_ael> well usable :)
[09:29] <k1l> when you say "on the market" i guess you mean android or ios (or windows phone). and android is somewhat open source with the AOSP part.
[09:40] <raph_ael> k1l: well any other
[09:40] <raph_ael> ios is closed, and android not totally
[09:52] <k1l> i am not aware of smartphones shipped with other OS (beside some android spin offs by the makers)
[09:52] <raph_ael> there is Jolla, but not so open source
[09:53] <jaywink> raph_ael: well, there is Jolla's Sailfish OS, which is mostly open, some UI parts are closed: https://jolla.com/
[09:53] <raph_ael> indeed :)
[09:53] <jaywink> won't find one on the high street though :)
[09:54] <jaywink> oh sorry just missed you had posted it yourself too
[09:54] <raph_ael> Sony is told to ship some Jolla phones, and fairphone can use it I think, but it's not much common
[09:56] <k1l> there is ubuntu-touch, too :)
[09:56] <k1l> it was shipped and its open source.
[09:56] <Tm_T> Mer? oh, no phones shipped I suppose
[09:57] <k1l> tizen is not shipped, too
[09:57] <Tm_T> yeah
[09:57] <Tm_T> actually there's Tizen TVs at least
[10:08] <k1l> wasnt some TV shipping webOS now?