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C[-_-]Oi aer mark is back on the helm00:19
C[-_-]Oear00:20
C[-_-]Oanyone testing kubuntu?00:20
C[-_-]Ois it booting :)00:20
magkneetoeC[-_-]O, are you running Kubuntu?00:24
C[-_-]Ono thats why im asking00:25
magkneetoe:)00:26
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BlueProtomanIs it possible to simulate a key press and have that key press forwarded to the window manager (e.g. so I can do something like mapping gamepad buttons to keyboard presses)?  In code, not as a user-level application00:41
sereis it possible to formart /boot if its on a seperate partition and reinstall grub00:41
AprelHave to join multiple files on a drive with limited free space. Is there a smarter way than `cat file01 file02 ... > file` that doesn't take up 2x the original file size on drive during the joining process?00:45
geniiman join00:45
geniiSorry, not join00:46
wedgieAprel: if you don't find something better, you might consider doing it in steps: for file in <your list of files>; do cat -- "$file" >> combinedfile; rm -- "$file"; done00:49
wedgieAprel: also consider asking in #bash. Maybe someone in there will have something slicker00:51
Aprelwedgie: ty, I'll try #bash also00:52
potatoHI01:01
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Guest75290is anyone there?01:02
Bashing-omGuest75290: 1811 nicks .. what is your thought ?01:03
Guest75290may i have a question about firewall01:04
Bashing-om!ask | Guest75290 Standard response:01:04
ubottuGuest75290 Standard response:: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience01:04
Guest75290Last night I did a most annoying mistake. On a Ubuntu 16 server I enables ufw and forgot to allow ssh. Then I logged off.  Naturally I am now locked out with ssh.01:05
Keamycheers01:07
Keamywell my problem is appearing during the installation of ubuntu on my computer. i have a windows 7 laptop, not in its best condition but working. unfortunally windows doesn't work at all,won't even load until login. but i can access all my files using a bootable usb with a linux dist on it. now i want to install ubunto on my computer. i downloaded ubuntu desktop amd64 and installed it on a usb with unetbootin01:07
Keamyor what its called. but after booting it, it gave me error warnings right away and didnt even let me reach the installation process. same prob with a dvd.01:07
Bashing-omGuest75290: You do not say - but do you have physical access to the server ?01:08
Guest75290no, i have built it on EC201:09
Bashing-omKeamy: Show the channel on a pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' . let's see if there are partitions available for ubuntu to install to .01:10
naccGuest75290: you might ask in #ubuntu-server as well, but do you have any access to a 'console' from aws tooling?01:14
Guest75290i have no idea about that since i am new to ec201:15
naccGuest75290: if you are new to ec2, can you just trash your instance and start a new one? and don't make that mistake? :)01:16
Keamybashing-om well i planned to overwrite all existing data during installation.. but it fails during the main installation.01:16
Bashing-omKeamy: Still of interest is ' parted -l ' and also now 'sudo fdisk -lu ' .01:17
texlaI need to find the mfg name and part number of my cd/dvd drive...what command should I use to find this info??01:18
Guest75290thank you, because i have already installed mautic in the server01:19
Guest75290i will look for some solutions for this issue, thank you.01:19
doge-dogehey guys, has anyone actually tested the upgrade path from 16.10 to 17.04 on an existing luks install?01:24
doge-dogeso far there's been 1 guy who said he lost his luks partition after upgrading01:25
doge-dogei haven't heard anything else01:25
doge-dogei feel like this is such niche issue that it won't be caught before release in 3 days01:27
doge-dogefigured someone here tested it...01:27
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doge-dogemeow01:28
bazhangdoge-doge, #ubuntu+1 for 17.0401:29
doge-dogethanks01:30
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deaincaeloSo, is there anyone who knows about mscorefonts? I've been trying to get it installed 6 ways from sunday and it's all failed.01:33
syntaksis there an nvidia/linux dev channel by chance that someone's aware of?01:36
deaincaelothere should be a channel list01:37
syntaksoh wow01:37
bazhangsyntaks, dev for what01:37
Random832deaincaelo, download the cab files directly from https://sourceforge.net/projects/corefonts/files/the%20fonts/final/ and install manually into ~/.fonts01:37
syntaks#nvidia - imagine that heh01:37
syntaksbazhang: kernel beta drivers, etc. i'm on 4.11 and need drivers01:38
syntaksthere's nothing available at the moment though so i wanted to keep in the loop01:38
bazhangsyntaks, it's doubtful any devs hangout there01:38
deaincaeloI have them downloaded already, and I ran reconfigure, but it failed. how can I install them manually into fonts?01:39
scooterdhello guys and girls  is bashing-om here01:39
yukipubuntu offtopic? general discussion channel?01:48
Bashing-omyukip: #ubuntu-offtopic .01:49
yukipty01:49
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ScioMinIf I install a .deb file, will it be auto updated using apt-get upgrade? For example this deb: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.1.18/virtualbox-5.1_5.1.18-114002~Ubuntu~xenial_amd64.deb01:57
ScioMinOr do I have to add "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian xenial contrib" to my /etc/apt/sources.list?01:58
deaincaelookay, I've copy/pasted the mscorefonts files to every directory I could find that says fonts. Still no luck.02:05
jaithI just noticed that cron doesn't source the .bashrc file. Can anyone recommend an elegant way to have cron source this file for all of my cron jobs in my crontab? I'm running perhaps a dozen cron jobs and they all need certain environment variables exported to funcion. It seems tedious to me to have to add source ~/.bashrc to every single line02:05
james__hi02:05
thanujahi02:05
james__what r yalltalking about02:06
Bashing-omjames__: ubuntu operating system support .02:07
implite!ot02:07
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:07
jaithanyone know how to force cron to source .bashrc for all commands?02:08
james__is this all this is is a support group02:08
impliteI wish i could help you jaith02:08
implitei dont know the first thing about it but i could try to learn02:09
jaithjames__: i think the idea is to keep chitchat to a mininum and focus on real problems. If you have questions, try RFTM https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines02:09
james__does any one know how to speed up the system02:09
implitetinylinux02:10
james__what is that02:10
Bashing-omjames__: Install more ram .. install a SSD . These work wonders .02:10
james__i have an hp mini with 2 gb of ram02:11
impliteI have ssd installed02:11
james__how big02:11
impliteonly 256gb02:11
implitebut really fast one02:11
implitefaster is better for games02:12
impliteand stuff02:12
deaincaeloI got it. I was making a typo to the directory. tyvm for trying to help.02:12
implitetransfer rates are over 500mbps02:12
james__mine lags on start up and also on the the internet browser02:13
impliteyou can make an old computer really fast if you know what your installing and if the computer can handle it02:13
james__i installed a 32 bit os on it02:14
Bashing-omjames__: Under normal operating condition - with sevral tabs open in your browser - what does terminal command ' frr -m ' reveal about how hard swap is hit ?02:15
Bashing-omharrymm: typo - free -m - .02:15
james__Mem:           2005         794         242         161         968         80002:16
james__Swap:          2037         147        189002:16
james__avakivle is 80002:18
james__avalible02:18
OerHeksjames__, "lags on start up" how long does starting take?02:18
james__3 to 4 minuts02:18
OerHeksthat is ugly long, unless you have samba shares and wireless02:19
james__i have wireless on i thought installing another gig of ram would make it faster but it didnt02:20
darkr0ck3thello, can someone assist with a SFTP issue please?02:21
Mcmatrixhey dark0ck3t what prob do you have with SFTP so that i can clarify you on it02:23
minimecjames__: Can you once run 'sudo systemd-analize blame' in a terminal. It should show all the booted services and the time they took to boot up.02:24
darkr0ck3ti have my pub key linked with my server, and am able to login to sftp but not transfer files02:24
minimecjames__: it's 'sudo systemd-analyze blame' sorry...02:25
jaithcan anyone suggest an elegant way to source .bashrc for *all* of the commands in my crontab? For some reason, scripts executed via cron do not see the vars exported in .bashrc02:25
james__i siad it taqkes 11.685s02:29
james__it02:30
arunpyasiPlease help me with that SIM900A modem, its still not working... It worked fine on my friend's windows machine but not in linux.02:30
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azizLIGHTI was fiddling with USB 2.0 hub wires and suddenly the hub's power light started flickering. Now when I plug my USB wireless keyboard/mouse nano adapter, it's not working and /var/log/kern.log says this type of stuff: http://i.imgur.com/2wDLcMg.jpg02:44
azizLIGHTPlease help, I'm having to use my computer with TeamViewer.. Cannot use keyboard mouse02:44
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minimecazizLIGHT: shutdown the machine, verify that all the plugs fit well..., reboot the computer.02:46
matt__shoukd i update ubuntu 16.04 to 16.1002:46
OerHeksmatt if you need to ask, no, stay on LTS.02:47
matt__im thinking about upgrqding because kf e features02:47
azizLIGHTminimec: I can't shut down because I'm running bad blocks process02:47
loki3624is there a fedora support channel or someone willing to help me out?02:47
matt__upgrading because of the features added02:48
matt__no one on this channel uses fedora02:48
OerHekstry #fedora or ##fedora ?02:48
OerHeks!alis02:49
ubottuAlis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"02:49
minimecazizLIGHT: You should NOT do ather stuff, hwen running disk verification... And definitely not 'fiddeling with USB 2.0 hub wired' while doing so... Just my opinion... ;)02:49
azizLIGHTI shouldn't but I did02:51
minimecmatt__: I have a running fedora here... If it's about fedora 24-25 upgrade... That should be no problem. I would not go fedora 26 right now, as it's only 'alpha'02:52
loki3624‎[Channel]‎ Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services. I've registered but this happens02:53
kostkon!register | loki362402:54
ubottuloki3624: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.02:54
OerHeksloki3624, maybe you did, but you are logged in unregistered02:54
ChaiTRexloki3624: You need to identify (/msg nickserv help identify). Make sure you do it in another tab besides a chat.02:54
dax(Note: your current nick is not a registered account, so if you think it is, you perhaps did not successfully register)02:55
dax(also: #freenode is probably a better place for this, since #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support)02:55
darkr0ck3twhy can i download files with SFTP but when trying to upload to the same file path i get a permission denied03:09
minimecdarkr0ck3t: permission problems. You have read permissiona, bot nor write permissions to the folder you want to upload to.03:13
darkr0ck3tok, thats what im looking at now, just trying to figure out what needs to be done03:14
darkr0ck3tthanks03:14
ChaiTRexdarkr0ck3t: Is this for website files?03:14
darkr0ck3tyes03:14
ChaiTRexdarkr0ck3t: See https://serverfault.com/questions/357108/what-permissions-should-my-website-files-folders-have-on-a-linux-webserver03:15
ChaiTRexdarkr0ck3t: It goes into detail about how to set things up nicely.03:15
darkr0ck3tnoticed its for apache does this work with nginx as well03:15
darkr0ck3tnm i think i looked at this wrong03:16
ChaiTRexdarkr0ck3t: Yeah, you just need to figure out which user nginx runs under.03:16
darkr0ck3tok thanks again03:16
ChaiTRexdarkr0ck3t: You're welcome.03:16
oppahoo03:49
waglewhats the correct syntax for this: ufw allow "Nginx Full" from 50.51.52.53  ?03:58
heywoodi'm getting an odd permission error when trying to start darkice (an audio streamer) via sudo. the strace output contains the following lines:04:08
heywoodstat("/home/heywood", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 004:08
heywoodgetuid()                                = 004:09
heywoodwrite(2, "Home directory not accessible: P"..., 49Home directory not accessible: Permission denied04:09
heywood) = 4904:09
heywoodany idea how i might troubleshoot that?04:09
Ben64heywood: why are you running it with sudo04:14
heywoodBen64: for this particular application, darkice needs POSIX real-time scheduling. thus it needs to run as root. (i've been running it that way for several years on an older Ubuntu 12.04 LTS box without any issues.)04:15
Ben64heywood: what do you mean by that04:16
alwanFolks, what do you think about the canonical announcement to drop unity desktop in next LTS?04:16
heywoodBen64: this stream needs to be as skip-free as possible. running as root runs the process at a (much?) higher priority, so the stream doesn't skip. running as non-root causes dropouts.04:17
heywooddarkice itself says as much if you start it without sudo:04:17
heywoodCould not set POSIX real-time scheduling, this may cause recording skips.04:17
heywoodTry to run darkice as the super-user.04:17
Ben64heywood: you can change priority on a process not run by root04:17
ChaiTRexalwan: I was happy to hear they were switching to xmonad.04:19
azizLIGHTmy usb ports stopped working... kern.log: https://paste.linux.community/view/4f3e2ecd04:20
azizLIGHTAny advice besides rebooting?04:20
azizLIGHTAny description of what's happening f04:21
azizLIGHTIn the log?04:21
heywoodBen64: if you're talking about re-nicing the process, then yes, i'm aware of that. i don't understand the low-level POSIX scheduling stuff at all, but i do know that the application for which i'm using darkice (streaming audio to a liveatc server) explicitly recommends running with sudo.04:23
Ben64running things as root is a Bad Idea™04:24
heywoodanyway, that part isn't the problem. there's something weird going on with file/directory permissions. if i do sudo su, then launch darkice from the root prompt, i don't get the "Home directory not accessible" error. but if i run darkice as myself (regular user), but via sudo, i get the error. i'm totally confused by why this happens.04:25
Ben64well you should never sudo su04:25
Ben64and the problems are probably from your cavalier use of sudo04:25
heywoodthe only reason i mention sudo su is that it is the only way i can invoke darkice without generating that permission error. if i just run it as sudo, i get the error. i don't understand that at all.04:26
Ben64right, but using sudo su is wrong in every case04:26
heywoodand if by "cavalier" you mean "following the explicit instructions of the developers of a widely-used audio streamer," then… yeah, i guess i'm being cavalier.04:27
heywoodany idea why running it via sudo su doesn't trigger that error, but running it by just sudo does?04:28
Ben64because you screwed up things by using sudo improperly04:28
heywoodhow do you mean. are you suggesting that some file or directory's permissions got corrupted?04:29
awesomess3what's that meta-package that installs all of the bareminimum building packages?04:30
awesomess3for gcc and stuff04:31
heywoodmore to the point, if i'm using sudo improperly, as you say, then how would you suggest invoking darkice correctly?04:31
kk4ewtvuild-essentuails or something like that04:31
kk4ewtbuild04:31
Ben64heywood: i'd run it as my user, and renice it04:33
ThePortWhispererhi, i added a network drive to my box via "online accounts" and the drive was hanging while loading contents04:33
ThePortWhisperersoon i could not open any directories with the GUI so i shutdown my box. now when i start it up, it freezes during boot at  "[OK] Started User Manager for UID 13204:34
ThePortWhispereri can still boot into recovery mode04:35
Ben64ThePortWhisperer: what os are you running04:36
ThePortWhispererits debian..when i googled the only folks with same issue were on ubuntu04:36
Ben64then you need to ask in #debian04:37
cfoch-alwayshi04:38
cfoch-alwayswhats the channel for developers?04:39
awesomess3ThePortWhisperer: oh you screwed up now you should've lied and said ubuntu. Then when they asked you what version you say 8.04 Jessie's Sauce04:39
ThePortWhispererlol04:39
ThePortWhispereryeah i dont think distro matters here anyways, ubuntu users get the same thing04:39
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lotuspsychjecfoch-always: #ubuntu-devel04:40
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awesomess3ThePortWhisperer: do you think the network drive GUI depends on......................the DE system?04:41
heywoodBen64: i can certainly try that. as built, darkice runs with priority 4. i don't know how close to -20 it needs to be to be sufficiently skip-free, but i can do a bit of trial and error. thanks.04:41
ThePortWhispererawesomess3, no idea, i just started using nix and not as a sysadmin04:42
Ben64ThePortWhisperer: this channel only supports Ubuntu04:42
ThePortWhispererben64 thumbs up mate.04:42
Ben64heywood: as for your sudo problem, step 1 - don't use 'sudo su' ever, step 2.... does this return anything? "find ~ \! -user $USER -print"04:43
cfoch-alwaysis there some project related to GNOME (particular of Ubuntu) I can contribute to?04:44
awesomess3ThePortWhisperer: only ubuntu can't you read the channel name! (may want to try another DE, there is XFCE, LXDE, KDE, Cinammon, MATE, & Gnome 3.* as the popular ones I've seen. .......you can always try an Ubuntu LiveUSB to try Ubuntu's ........ummm...default DE's ummm... Folder manager that I guess can access network drives? *shrugs*)04:44
ThePortWhispererawesomess3, very many good ideas, not enough time to try them all04:45
lotuspsychje!contribute | cfoch-always04:46
ubottucfoch-always: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu04:46
heywood Ben64: no. i already tried that. and also "chown -R heywood /home/heywood", as discussed in detail at https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=620872704:46
awesomess3ThePortWhisperer: there may be a package you need to install to get the network part working, maybe even some sort of samba server.04:47
awesomess3samba server/service/daemon04:47
awesomess3ubuntu is good at having that installed by default04:47
awesomess3because EVERYONE has a samba server connected to their computer, right Ben64?..........right?04:47
Ben64awesomess3: what are you on about04:48
awesomess3Ooohh Ben64. Good ol' Ben64 .04:48
awesomess3You know I used to play Body Harvest 6404:48
awesomess3The best game on Nintendo 6404:49
rajwhy is ubuntu so far behind on irssi versions?04:50
Ben64!latest | raj04:50
ubotturaj: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.04:50
rajapt-get gave me 0.8.1904:50
raj1.0 is available04:50
awesomess3raj: you got me beat my repositories on 0.8.1504:51
awesomess3raj: basically Ubuntu only releases security updates. Like Firefox every update is almost always a security one, so Ubuntu always has the latest firefox.04:52
awesomess3However my gparted still crashes when creating a fat32, but even then, Ubuntu keeps it at its version.........................................................so that's one of the plus sides of using windows. because then you can just uninstall and reinstall software that doesn't exist on Windows.04:55
awesomess3why doesn't windows have gparted :|04:55
cfoch-alwayslotuspsychje: ubottu: I am interested in design04:58
cfoch-alwaysbut Ubuntu website talks about Unity yet04:59
cfoch-alwaysI think the page in't up to date04:59
rajwhat command would let me know which files in a directory are symlinks?04:59
ClydeSlimsI'm trying to connect to my laptop's VNC server (Ubuntu 16.04) from my Windows 10 TightVNC client. I looked up a guide but every time I connect, it shows an Xfce interface. I just want the normal ubuntu interface when using TightVNC. How do I do this?05:00
cfoch-alwaysUbuntu will use GNOME now, right¡05:00
cfoch-always?05:00
cfhowlettas of 18.0405:00
awesomess3raj:   `man find`  `info find`  `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pinfo && pinfo find` #pinfo is a little easier because you can use the arrow keys to maneuver easier.05:01
ClydeSlimsI'm trying to connect to my laptop's VNC server (Ubuntu 16.04) from my Windows 10 TightVNC client. I looked up a guide but every time I connect, it shows an Xfce interface. I just want the normal ubuntu interface when using TightVNC. How do I do this?05:02
ClydeSlimsoops05:02
cfoch-alwayshave you aread y started with 18.04 development?05:02
cfoch-always*already05:02
ClydeSlimsLike I want exactly what's being shown on my laptop to be shown on the TightVNC client on Windows.05:02
cfhowlettcfoch-always, no05:02
rajawesomess3, ls doesn't have a switch that would let me know which of the files in the current directory are symlinks?05:02
cfoch-alwayswhen do you plan to do it?05:02
awesomess3raj: here's a starter pack that doesn't work:     `find ~/directory/with/symlinks -type f -maxdepth 1 #will list the files that are regular files in that directory.`05:02
awesomess3raj: I think `ls` just highlights symlinks05:03
Ben64raj: find -type l05:03
h3ndr1ku5how to check what driver ny wifi uses?05:05
awesomess3ClydeSlims: soooooooooooooooooooooooooo......that doesn't make sense, how would your Ubuntu server through your VNC server an XFCE4 interface when Ubuntu uses Unity? Does your Ubuntu install even have any xfce4 packages installed?05:06
awesomess3h3ndr1ku5: get-wifi-drivers05:06
ClydeSlimsawesomess3, I don't know. I was reading a guide on how to setup a vnc server and now whenever I connect to it, it shows an xfce interface despite that I'm running unity..05:06
ClydeSlimsGuide in question: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-vnc-on-ubuntu-16-0405:07
h3ndr1ku5i have just need to know what driver im using now becouse cant get it work on other pc with same specs05:07
geirhaClydeSlims: that xstartup script is specifically starting xfce05:08
awesomess3h3ndr1ku5: lspci -k05:09
awesomess3h3ndr1ku5: man lspci05:09
awesomess3h3ndr1ku5: #and search 'kernel'05:09
h3ndr1ku5ok05:10
h3ndr1ku5thanks05:10
awesomess3ClydeSlims: hmmmmmmmmmmmmm..................................you're gonna have to dig deep05:10
awesomess3ClydeSlims: like config files05:10
ClydeSlimsgeirha, so just remove it?05:10
awesomess3ClydeSlims: ummmm maybe just comment it out `nano ~/.xinitrc #I'm 3% sure this should work.`05:11
ClydeSlimsawesomess3, should I just remove the entire script?05:12
awesomess3ClydeSlims: edit it or back it up because you may want it later:   `mv ~/.xinitrc ~/.xinitrc_keeping`05:13
cfhowlettClydeSlims, the very first step in your tutorial installs xfce4 and step 2 invokes it.   perhaps purge xfce4 and substitute unity?05:13
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ClydeSlimscfhowlett, how do I substitute unity? I purged xfce405:14
ClydeSlimsAhh, I commented out #startxfce4 &  from the xstartup file and removed xfce4 but now whenever I vnc to it, it shows a checkered screen and an 'X' cursor icon for the mouse05:15
cfhowlettbecause no DE specified.  apt install unity05:16
ClydeSlimscfhowlett, nope, same screen.05:17
ClydeSlimsHmm, how do I completely remove this vnc server so I can try another guide?05:17
pvh_sahey everyone... I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 and have had a problem for a few weeks where, each time I change network, DNS stops working. Killing the dnsmasq process and letting it respawn solves this. Any idea how to fix this properly?05:20
azizLIGHTIs there a way to use USB keyboard mouse without using a USB port05:23
azizLIGHTBesides vnc05:24
hateballazizLIGHT: Synergy05:24
azizLIGHTOh lucky for me I have that05:24
azizLIGHTForgot05:24
domgetterIf I want to install this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/efl Don't I just `sudo apt-get install efl`?  Or am I way off base?05:27
azizLIGHTAny other way?05:27
azizLIGHTNormally I have my computer setup as server on synergy, but I need the reverse case05:27
azizLIGHTThis time05:27
ifro_ds05:28
rajwhere is libhtml-entities-perl in apt?05:30
hateballraj: apt search libhtml|grep perl05:31
hateballor better to grep entities I guess05:31
domgetterAm I wrong to assume that this is a package I can install with apt-get? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/efl05:33
lucas-argi have this mouse (touchpad) ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse  and it freezes some times, i dont know what to do (tried adding i8042.nomux=1 and .reset to boot options) but problem persists05:33
lucas-argany help??05:34
geirhadomgetter: if you're on 16.04 or newer, apt install efl  should install it05:34
domgettergeirha: I get "E: Unable to locate package efl"05:35
geirhadomgetter: What does   lsb_release -sd   output?05:36
domgettergeirha: Linux Mint 18.1 Serena05:37
domgetterAre they not similar enough for this?05:37
geirhaLinux mint is a completely different OS, and not supported here05:37
cfhowlettdomgetter, mint is not supported in the ubuntu channels.  use the mint support options05:37
cfhowlett!mint | domgetter05:38
ubottudomgetter: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)05:38
demosthenes!MirtheN Aldous_Huxley_-_Brave_New_World.epub05:38
cfhowlettdemosthenes, spam is not welcome here.  don't be rude05:38
domgetterIs this not an aptitude question?05:39
cfhowlettdomgetter, doesnt matter.  you are using an OS that is not supported here.   use your OS support options or install ubuntu05:39
krytarikIt isn't actually, but repos.05:40
krytarikWell, plus that's the name of the source package, not the binary.05:42
domgetterkrytarik I'm a newbie about this sort of stuff.  Do you have any resources that might point me in the right direction?05:42
domgetterWas I wrong in assuming that if that webpage had that listed as a "package", that I could use aptitude to install it?05:43
domgetterAssuming I was on Ubuntu05:43
geirhamint is not ubunu, so that assumption was wrong, yes05:43
cfhowlettdomgetter, dude. you are NOT using ubuntu.  we will NOT suppport you here05:44
geirhaThe package in xenial is named efl according to that page05:44
geirha!info efl05:44
ubottuPackage efl does not exist in yakkety05:44
geirhaHm. !info doesn't include universe packages?05:44
krytarikgeirha: No, you're just wrong.05:44
domgettercfhowlett I changed my question to assume I was using Ubuntu05:45
cfhowlettdomgetter, install ubuntu.  then we talk.05:46
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geirhaOh, right, the binary packages are listed further down. I misread.05:46
domgetterOkay I'm on an Ubuntu 14.04 box now.05:48
krytarikProve it. >_>05:49
geirha14.04 is too old05:49
krytarikBut supported still.05:49
domgetter" This channel supports: Ubuntu and its official flavors, versions 12.04, 14.04, 16.04, 16.10 "05:49
domgetterkrytarik fine.  what do you need?05:50
cfhowlettdomgetter, lsb_release -a | pastebinit05:50
geirhatoo old for efl, which was introduced for vivid05:50
krytarikRight.05:50
domgettercfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24359127/05:51
krytarikOr in Utopic really.05:52
geirhaI'm guessing e17 is the predecessor05:52
domgetterSo was I wrong in assuming that if that webpage had that listed as a "package", that I could use aptitude to install it?05:53
cfhowlettaptitude has been deprecated for years now ...05:53
domgettercfhowlett I thought that was the full name for apt-get.  Sorry if I'm getting things wrong05:54
cfhowlettdomgetter, apt-get also deprecated.  use apt        e.g. apt install packagename05:55
krytarikThat's not quite the case either.05:55
geirhaapt-get should be preferred for non-interactive use05:55
domgetterSo was I wrong in assuming that if that webpage had that listed as a "package", that I could use apt to install it?05:56
cfhowlettdomgetter, if the package is a .deb, install with apt.05:56
geirhaso I take it neither are officially deprecated, which is good, because aptitude is the best apt frontend I know of05:56
domgettercfhowlett I don't know enough to know if you've answered my question05:57
cfhowlettdomgetter, does the package name end in .deb?  then apt is your app05:57
domgettercfhowlett: If I'm getting "E: Unable to locate package efl" does that mean that the package name doesn't end in .deb?05:58
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cfhowlettdomgetter, more likely the package name is off.05:59
domgetterSo when I read this page: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/efl Where do I look for the "package name"?05:59
kostkon!find efl05:59
ubottuFound: efl-dbg, efl-doc, eflite, golang-github-mitchellh-reflectwalk-dev, golang-github-oleiade-reflections-dev, libfest-reflect-java, libgecodeflatzinc41v5, libghc-reflection-dev, libghc-reflection-doc, libghc-reflection-prof (and 14 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=efl&searchon=names&suite=yakkety&section=all05:59
geirhadomgetter: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+sourcepub/6091379/+listing-archive-extra  this shows information for efl in xenial. The packages listed under built packages are the ones you could've installed with apt if you were on xenial (ubuntu 16.04)05:59
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AncerIf you dont have the repositories you cant apt-get05:59
kostkondomgetter, looks like there's no package with the name efl06:00
awesomess3cfhowlett: ooooo good call I always keep forgetting about apt and using `apt-get` all of the time. `apt-get` still works 90% of the time I guess anyways so.....*shrugs*06:00
cfhowlettAwesomecase, it's all same same06:01
Ancerif no .deb just compile it from the source06:01
cfhowlett... "just" ...  :)06:02
awesomess3cfhowlett: that is true true06:02
domgetterI'm obviously missing something very fundamental here.  Is the link I provided *not* a listing of a package?06:02
geirhadomgetter: source package06:02
domgetterEven though it says "efl pachage in Ubuntu"?06:02
awesomess3Ancer: or with firefox you just download the .tar.bz2, extract, and run.06:03
domgettergeirha okay I don't know what that means or what the difference is.  Is there somewhere I can read up on that/06:03
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kostkondomgetter, source package means apt-get source package_name06:03
geirhadomgetter: See the last link, it shows the actual binary packages built from the efl sources06:03
cfhowlettdomgetter, your page shows multiple hits for "efl" in the ubuntu package universe.  for the efl package specifically, I think you want https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/efl/1.8.6-2.506:04
ClydeSlimsI've tried everything to get my laptop to not suspend when the lid is closed but no matter what I do, it always suspends. Anyone know how to solve this? Ubuntu 16.0406:05
thereyougoany suggestions of console IRC client alternative to irssi ? except weechat06:06
thereyougoClydeSlims: what is in your cat /etc/acpi/events/default ?06:07
caesarhi everyone06:07
domgetterAlright, well thank you for all your patience, everyone.06:07
domgetterI still don't understand how to install this thing, but I guess I learned that there's a difference between packages and source packages, though I don't know what that difference is06:08
ClydeSlimsthereyougo, there's no default06:10
domgettercfhowlett do you have any suggestions about where I should go to ask about installing your last link?06:11
cfhowlettdomgetter, actually, if download the .gz file and double click, it will extract.  there's an install link inside06:13
cfhowlettwith instructions to compile from source06:13
domgettercfhowlett alright, thank you06:14
cfhowlettdomgetter, happy2help!06:14
krytarikHah. Why..?06:15
ClydeSlimsI've tried everything to get my laptop to not suspend when the lid is closed but no matter what I do, it always suspends. Anyone know how to solve this? Ubuntu 16.0406:19
krytarikClydeSlims: You realize that without telling us what all you tried, no one can make any suggestion? :P06:23
ClydeSlimskrytarik, I've tried manually setting it from the power settings, editing logind.conf, editing UPower.conf06:24
ClydeSlimsI'm out of ideas06:24
ClydeSlimsnothing works. Every time I close the lid, it always suspends.06:25
krytarikYou might share any details regarding the exact instructions, your execution of them.. and well I guess we know the result of each. :)06:30
ClydeSlimsI've tried editing UPower.Conf and setting IgnoreLid=true, editing /etc/systemd/logind.conf and setting HandleLidSwitch=ignore, and also manually editing the power settings and setting 'Lid closed' to 'Do nothing'. Nothing seems to work, it always suspends the laptop when I close the lid.06:33
ClydeSlimskrytarik, that's what I did.06:33
skitsIn 16.04 is there some quirk or change that would cause problems with ip's showing instead of dns? I only ask here because i tried both nginx/apache and they both do it after install.06:49
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Ben64skits: not sure what you mean06:51
awesomess3skits: sudo netstat -taupWe --numeric-ports06:57
awesomess3skits: sudo netstat -taupWe06:57
skitsI setup a new 1604 droplet(several times) All times I used either a lemp or a lamp setup. I forwarded my domains and did the config/vhost setup each time.  Domain names bring me to the correct place but will not show the domain name. It shows the public ip of the server instead.  I did a 14.04 setup to confirm and it works fine there.06:57
awesomess3skits: the second one should show you the domains06:58
awesomess3skits: `man netstat`06:58
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awesomess3skits: where exactly do you want these "domain names" to show up versus the "ip addresses"06:59
awesomess3?06:59
awesomess3netstat shows you your open ports06:59
skitsJust browser url06:59
awesomess3and connections06:59
awesomess3listening udp servers/daemons06:59
awesomess3skits: `cat /etc/hosts`07:00
awesomess3I actually don't care about helping, I'm just guessing wildly that these suggestions might help07:00
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GjerberHi! I have a text file with lots of timestamps in the form of ts:1491895192 that I want to convert to readable time. There are other places with ten digits that shouldn't be converted so it should only change ten digits that come directly after a "ts:" string. What's the best way to do this?07:22
DelvienGjerber: While I would like to know the answer to that as well, this channel is for ubuntu support07:23
GjerberOh sorry, I thought it could be for more general Linux questions. I wil find a better place for that question!07:24
OerHeksGjerber, look for "unix timestamp to readable time", time.strftime should do something according to http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3682748/converting-unix-timestamp-string-to-readable-date-in-python07:24
s421811...07:26
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awesomess3Text files without encryption!!! get that shit gziped and rethink life. This is #linux, this is not the junior varsity, this is the varsity league.07:32
awesomess3Oh no this is #ubuntu!07:33
awesomess3shoot!07:33
awesomess3But still, #ubuntu is varsity too.07:33
awesomess3we're all like the NSA and CIA and Naval warfare research facilities deep underground.07:34
VolundSo there are two different Ubuntu machines on my network. I'd like to share folders on one and mount them on the other - so, basically, mount a network filesystem. I think the most OBVIOUS way to do this is Samba as a Windows share, but are there others?07:37
ducasse_yeeve: imo the most obvious way is nfs07:38
Volundnfs :o07:38
* Volund investigates07:38
ducassevery easy to set up.07:38
awesomess3Yeah Samba is really only if you have to access Windows and you want Windows to interface to Linux. While that would work with 2 linuxes...... blah I don't care.07:39
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LinuxmeisterHey there, quick question. Yesterday my WiFi was working perfectly fine, rebooted several times and the network manager widget was always there. Then when I turn it on this morning it doesn't show up anymore. What can I do to fix this07:53
LinuxmeisterI already tried restarting network manager and rebooting but nothing works07:54
LinuxmeisterI connected my usb WiFi card and it still doesn't show up07:54
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r_dudauum08:08
r_dudauhello08:08
r_dudauhellooooo08:08
joe___Hi08:09
r_dudauum, hi08:09
r_dudauim new08:09
joe___Me too08:09
r_dudaui would have a question08:09
OerHeks:-)08:09
r_dudaudo someone know how to personalize the ubuntu mate desktop08:09
r_dudau?08:09
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OerHeks!info mate-tweak08:10
r_dudau???08:10
ubottumate-tweak (source: mate-tweak): MATE desktop tweak tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 16.10.5-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 90 kB, installed size 974 kB08:10
r_dudau????08:10
joe___I don't use Mate, so I'm probably not the best person to ask08:10
OerHeksthere is the mate-tweak package, and i am sure there are lots of themes to find08:10
r_dudauoh ok08:10
r_dudauim at work XD08:11
k1lr_dudau: where do you have issues?08:11
r_dudauwell, i dont have any issues08:11
ducasse!theme | r_dudau08:11
ubottur_dudau: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy08:11
k1lr_dudau: so you want us search for themes for you? :)08:12
r_dudaui just want to personalize my ubuntu mate desktop08:12
r_dudauhow do i serch themes08:12
r_dudau_08:12
joe___It's 2:00 a.m, I should be working on a paper for my public speaking class, and I decided to spend my time learning how to use IRC.  I clearly have my priorities in order...08:12
r_dudauim new on ubuntu08:12
r_dudauand im using ubuntu mate08:12
r_dudauhow do i search themes08:13
ducasser_dudau: see the sites ubottu linked you to08:13
r_dudau_08:13
k1lr_dudau: its the same workflow as when you would be using windows: search the internet for a theme you like, install that theme.08:13
r_dudauumm08:13
r_dudauok then08:13
k1lr_dudau: the bot linked you already known linux theme websites. you just need to choose one you like.08:13
joe___That's pretty much applicable to most window managers and DE's.08:13
OerHeksinstall synaptic, more detailed softwarecenter, and go wild08:14
r_dudauim sorry, where are those links08:14
k1lr_dudau: https://www.gnome-look.org/browse/cat/136/ord/latest/ you need gtk2 themes08:14
r_dudauoh ok08:15
r_dudauoh ok08:15
k1lr_dudau: you do understand german?08:15
r_dudauyes08:15
k1lthen look at the german wiki for ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/MATE_Desktop_anpassen/08:15
r_dudaubut i dont like to speack it that much08:15
r_dudauthx guys08:16
r_dudau:D08:16
r_dudaudid someone heard about mirai botnet_08:16
r_dudau?08:16
cfhowlettr_dudau, topic here is ubuntu support.  stay on topic please.08:17
r_dudauoh, srz08:17
r_dudausry08:17
OerHekseasy on the enter, i lost focus08:17
joe___What Ubuntu flavor is everyone using?08:17
cfhowlett#ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat r_dudau08:18
OerHekspolling is useless08:18
k1ljoe___: the one they like :)08:18
OerHeks1835 answers ..08:18
as_hello, I use ubuntu14.04LTS, and when i hit the poweroff button at tty1-6, the system shutdown immediately?? is this a bug?08:18
joe___Fair enough :)08:18
r_dudauso you guys  are speacking just about ubuntu?08:18
awesomess3joe75: Strawberry Banana Shit flavor08:18
cfhowlett.  focus yo08:18
cfhowlettr_dudau, correct08:18
r_dudauoh well,that ok i think...08:19
k1lr_dudau: #ubuntu-offtopic is for chatting, this is just for technical support.08:19
r_dudauand how do i enter ubuntu-offtopic_08:20
r_dudau?08:20
k1lyou need to register with freenode, then you can join that channel08:20
ducasse!register | r_dudau08:20
ubottur_dudau: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.08:20
r_dudaumhhhmmmmm -,-08:21
r_dudauok than08:21
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akash_AS08:24
r_dudauwell gentlemans , i must to go now, thx for the help and have a good day08:24
dextaany problems with archive repo ?08:25
dextaupdate is getting to 81% on gb.archive.ubuntu.com and then failing - unable to connect08:25
OerHeksdexta, maybe your mirror is just being sync'd, try again in a minute08:26
dextathanks, i will08:26
dextaseems ok via browser directory listings btw, odd..08:27
ducassedexta: also try #ubuntu-mirrors if it isn't resolved soon08:27
dextathanks08:27
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ericsongradie_mayombe08:42
cristobal guys is there any solution for the users like me using an apu yet? still need to reboot the computer 3 times so it can load the loginscreen and let me use the computer :p08:48
cristobalusing kernel 4.10.9 already tried the beta driver from amd as well08:50
mikazukihi08:58
mikazukihi08:59
brainwashcristobal: did you report this issue on launchpad?09:00
cristobali think there is a bug already open if i am not mistaken09:00
cristobalbut not sure09:01
brainwashI suggest adding a comment to it, or creating a new one09:03
cristobalhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu/+bug/157707409:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1577074 in xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu (Ubuntu) "[HP Pavilion 15] Intermittent black screens" [Critical,Incomplete]09:03
cristobalvery similar to my issue09:03
brainwashyou could attach your log files to this report09:03
brainwashthis usually helps the people who are debugging the issue09:03
cristobaldmesg? had never done that09:04
brainwash>Also, this bug has no logs from the original reporter, so it's largely useless for developers to do anything with.09:04
brainwashdmesg or journalctl09:05
cristobalwhat do you mean  by log ? dmesg? oh ok09:05
cristobalgot it09:05
cristobalwill do that now09:05
brainwashalso, check /var/log/xorg and /var/log/lightdm09:05
brainwashdmesg only shows information since the current boot of the system09:06
cristobalgo it writing the report now any other thing i shall paste there/09:08
akikwhat is the apt-get command to remove packages that were installed as dependencies to the packages i installed?09:09
brainwashcristobal: maybe read through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting09:09
cristobalthanks09:09
VassilliHi. How would I delete that part "NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the09:10
Vassillicurrently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration09:10
Vassilliview the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration.09:10
VassilliRegistrar Registration Expiration" from whois ?09:10
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akikwas it autoremove?09:10
Vassillisorry for flood. I thought it was one line...09:10
brainwashakik: yes09:10
akikbrainwash: thanks09:11
brainwashakik: you can add --purge also -> apt-get autoremove --purge09:11
brainwashVassilli: no luck with googling this message?09:13
ducasseVassilli: you want to change the whois data for the domain?09:14
k1lVassilli: talk to your domain hoster09:14
k1lVassilli: its not really a ubuntu issue09:14
ducasseVassilli: or ##networking09:15
cristobaldid my report this is my dmesg https://pastebin.com/tjt54B9P09:17
brainwashcristobal: but the current boot state of your system is not affected by the problem, right? you have to obtain the log of the previous boot (via journalctl)09:24
brainwashor did you run dmesg from tty?09:24
cristobalfrom terminal09:25
cristobalthe things is it boots but when it get ready to show the login screen it get stuck on black screen09:25
brainwashright09:26
brainwashso, you are not able to login into the graphical user session.. or?09:26
cristobalcorrect until i reboot liek 2 or 3 times09:26
cristobalnow i am on it after my 2nd attempt09:26
octo8Hello, I have a 15 GB log file, I want only the newest giga of it, how?09:27
brainwashcristobal: ok09:27
brainwashocto8: you want to trim it down or only display a specific part of the log?09:28
octo8brainwash: i want to trim the actualy file down09:28
cristobalthe log: https://pastebin.com/sekckqCV09:29
brainwashocto8: I guess you could use the "tail" command for both cases09:29
octo8what about this 'tail -c 1G' ???09:30
brainwashI think it expects bytes09:31
brainwashwell, did you try your example?09:31
geirhatail -c "$(( 10**9 ))"09:31
octo8i didn't try anything yet09:32
octo8why not 'tail -c 1G ./filename.log'09:32
octo8?09:32
cfhowlettocto8, tail -c 1g > filename.log09:33
octo8cfhowlett: sounds logical, but why not G ?09:33
cfhowletttry it,09:33
SkyriderGreetings everyone09:34
octo8cfhowlett: i will try it once some folder zippin finishes09:35
cableguyteam09:36
VassilliHi. How would I delete that part "NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration. Registrar Registration Expiration" from whois ?09:36
cableguyteam09:36
cableguyhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/903486/cant-connect-to-server-via-ssh-outside-web-console09:36
SkyriderI just installed Ubuntu 16.04 as of yesterday, and there seems to be a conflict with php-fpm and php7-fpm. Including mariadbserver and mariadbserver-10.009:41
SkyriderAny reason why this is per default?09:42
brainwashSkyrider: got any terminal output which shows the conflict?09:44
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SkyriderJust Errors were encountered while processing php-fpm and php7-fpm09:45
SkyriderIt appears it 'attempts' to install both.09:46
brainwashis this a fresh installation of ubuntu? did you add any PPAs?09:47
SkyriderMaybe the cause is that I installed ubuntu 14.04 first (minimal, no additional ppa's) and then upgraded to 16.0409:48
Vassillik1l, This tool "Whois" I installed to ubuntu.. It gives same notice everytime I do a whois. I guess this text is somewhere inside the tool files. I just wondered if anyone knows how to delete that line. So result will be only the dates.09:48
brainwashSkyrider: check the output "apt-cache policy" and see if anything is pointing to trusty (14.04)09:50
talinhello. i'm installing ubuntu on my mom's old somewhat slow laptop (2gb mem). should i choose ubuntu desktop, mate, or gnome? i'm installing 16.1009:50
talini heard they will switch to gnome at some point anywya, so maybe it's better to get ubuntu gnome desktop?09:50
cfhowletttalin, lubuntu or xubuntu09:50
SkyriderGuess I was wrong.. mongodb ppa added, but that's about it. rest of the url's point towards xenial09:51
talincfhowlett: that's lxde/kde, right?09:51
cfhowletttalin, lxde / xfce409:51
talincfhowlett: hmm, i have a feeling they might not be as userfriendly and standard? i use debian myself, so i have no idea, really09:51
cfhowletttalin, why would you say that?  xubuntu and lubuntu are official ubuntu flavors09:52
brainwashSkyrider: check "apt-cache policy php-fpm" and "apt-cache policy php7-fpm"09:52
talincfhowlett: ah, okay. i'll check them out, thank you09:53
cfhowletthappy2help!09:53
brainwashSkyrider: other than that, can you please share the whole terminal output of the conflict?09:53
ducassetalin: they're both quite capable desktops, imo xfce is a bit more integrated as a desktop though09:54
Skyriderhttps://pastebin.com/wiwiYZRk09:54
SkyriderThat's the cache09:54
cainehi09:54
Skyriderhi09:54
talincfhowlett, ducasse: so for a mom who has no idea about computers, which one would you go for? it's nice if it looks nice too09:54
cainei am new to caine09:55
cainei need help in recovering a USB data09:55
talini read somewhere that ubuntu will switch from unity to gnome, so i was thinking about ubuntu gnome desktop09:55
cfhowletttalin, her choice.  install both DE's and show her how to switch09:55
ducassecaine: what's 'caine'?09:56
brainwashSkyrider: I think this output is fine09:57
KrisDouglasducasse, it's a fairly mediocre copy of Kali Linux09:58
ducasseah.09:58
cfhowlettcaine, wrong channel.  caine is not  ubuntu and is not supported here.09:58
ducassecaine: then you need to get support from them, we only support ubuntu.09:58
drorHi all. I'm running 16.10, and lately every time I get packages updates - the process freezes towards the end of it and never finishes. When I run _apt update_  then I get lock errors. Any ideas?10:01
SkyriderMeh.. guess upgrading to 16.04 is leaving some issues10:01
SkyriderGetting "https://pastebin.com/1bggtLNV" - need to solve that first.10:02
Skyriderhttps://pastebin.com/1bggtLNV10:02
talincfhowlett: what about ubuntu mate, i've read good things about it10:03
SkyriderTalin, why don't you try them out in an emulator? :p10:03
cfhowletttalin, never used it myself so no opinion.10:03
ducassetalin: the base of all these is exactly the same, if she doesn't like a particular desktop you can just install one of the others.10:05
talinducasse: aah, okay. nice10:06
talini think i will try out mate and then switch if she doesn't like it10:06
talinSkyrider: only have one laptop, which is the one i'm mid-install10:06
ducassetalin: every single one of them is in the repos10:06
cfhowletttalin, install ONE *buntu.  then install the Desktop Environments.  you can select DE's at login time.10:10
pc22h10:11
pc22l10:12
sylarioI am discovering that X is being replaced by Wayland or Mir, I use X to display ubuntu windows on Microsoft WIndows computers via SSh + a X server.  Is there any Mir or Wayland server for microsoftwindows already?10:12
brainwash!wayland10:13
ubottuWayland is a display server protocol that is intended to replace X. More information can be found at http://wayland.freedesktop.org/ . Ubuntu is instead focusing on development of !Mir; see its factoid for more information.10:13
k1lsylario: xorg will be with us a very long time still10:14
brainwashSkyrider: maybe a clean installation of 16.04 would be the fastest way10:15
sylariobrainwash:  ubottu  Google cannot find any windows 10 mir or wayland, there is nothing about non linux server, that's why I ask10:15
k1lsylario: i am not sure if there is a working "wayland-forward" like the x-forward yet. (wayland is still not ready in every section). so no need to get stressed now, x11 will be used some more years.10:16
ducassesylario: mir is dead, and wayland is still under heavy development.10:16
Skyriderbrainwash: I can't.10:17
OerHeksducasse, mark said mir is not dead .. surpised me too..10:17
SkyriderThere no OpenVZ image container for 16.04 on my vps.10:17
SkyriderI was forced to do an upgrade instead.10:17
brainwashSkyrider: now that's rather odd10:17
brainwashit's not like 16.04 is brand new10:17
ducasseSkyrider: besides, wayland is not network transparent. something might appear there, but not in the protocol itself and not for a while.10:18
ducasseOerHeks: on the desktop it is aiui, they're keeping it for embedded etc if i read it correctly.10:18
SkyriderI asked the provider about it "At the moment, the image available is causing problems, so we had to remove it temporarily until a solution could be figured out. Thanks for contacting us about it though!"10:18
brainwashSkyrider: =S10:19
msiI'm trying to install ubuntu 16.04.02 on an MSI laptop. The live usb hangs with the following error: " NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#4 stuck for 23s! [gpu-manager:1893]"10:24
k1lSkyrider: check the init scripts mentioned in your paste: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=235030410:25
k1lmight be this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/insserv/+bug/46700010:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 467000 in insserv (Ubuntu) "insserv doesn't work with upstart" [Medium,Triaged]10:26
cfhowlettmsi http://askubuntu.com/questions/838212/ubuntu-16-10-fails-to-boot-in-msi-gp72-laptop10:26
hateballmsi: looks like you need to add nomodeset kernel parameter10:28
DelvienAnyone know what causes this to happen? http://imgur.com/a/wtjci10:30
msicfhowlett, hateball: Thanks for the pointers, that at least got me to a running live environment. Attempting to install now, I'll let you know how things go10:32
cfhowlettmsi, happy2help!10:32
Skyriderbrainwash: forced a reinstall for bin9 and the other one10:32
hateballmsi: be aware you will need to use nomodeset for your installed env until you install the nvidia blob10:32
SkyriderAppears to work fine .. **bind910:33
hateballmsi: or you will have the same behavior10:33
msihateball: I don't think I'll be installing the nvidia blob, since I need to use secure boot. (I'm dual booting windows on UEFI)10:34
hateballmsi: recent nvidia blobs support that afaik10:35
ducassemsi: you don't need to disable secure boot _itself_ for that in any case10:35
brainwashDelvien: bug 96595310:36
ubottubug 965953 in GTK+ "Indicator menus are too short and scroll when opened from screen bottom" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96595310:36
ducassemsi: you can just disable the verification in the shim, secure boot itself will remain active10:36
xokhello all...10:36
adacWere is the best place to set a global peristent ENV variable?10:36
xokI've got PXE boot server setup and install ubuntu automatically with preseed.cfg file...10:37
xokI wonder if there is a way to dynamically use physical devices (disks) without explicitly providing names in the configuration file?..10:37
hateballmsi: iirc you disable with "sudo mokutil --disable-validation" and then just install the blob10:37
brainwashadac: probably here /etc/environment10:37
adacbrainwash, thanks, will have a look at it!10:38
msihateball, ducasse I'll first try to install the drivers normally, and use the mokutil command if that fails10:39
ducassemsi: iirc you need to disable validation first, since the install checks10:39
ducassemsi: or make sure to build the driver manually later10:40
Lutenistanyone got any experience with touch screens? can't get it to work after switching from Fedora to Ubuntu10:42
Lutenistit's not listed in xinput (It wasn't under fedora either, but it worked out of the box there)10:42
LutenistMaybe because I kept my /home from the previous installation. There could be interfering config files?10:43
* Bl4ckC0r3 Have a nice day girls and boys.10:46
cfhowlettLutenist, possibly10:47
Delvienbrainwash: thanks, thought it was something i fooled with10:47
DelvienBl4ckC0r3: u2, off to work myself  :D10:51
agoose77Hi all - quick q, I installed ubuntu16.04 originally on my HDD by accident (long story short, installing linux on dell inspiron 15 7559 is a pita, so was up late), and have just moved it to my SSD and updated fstab etc. However, I'm not familiar with the boot process too well - I have an EFI partition on my HDD, which I only use for SWAP and some data storage now (I am dual booting). Do I need this?10:56
agoose77Can I delete this partition?10:56
cfhowlettagoose77, yes10:56
cfhowlettagoose77, YES you need it!  do NOT delete it!10:57
agoose77haha10:57
agoose77phew10:57
agoose77cfhowlett, what is it used for? just for pointing to SWAP or something?10:57
cfhowlettagoose77, no.  efi has nothing to do with swap.10:57
cfhowlett!efi | agoose7710:57
ubottuagoose77: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI10:57
agoose77Yeah, I am somewhat familiar with that, I just wasn't sure why i need it if I'm booting off my ssd nwo10:58
agoose77cfhowlett, to clairfy; I have Win10 + Ubuntu on my SSD, so nothing is booting from HDD10:58
agoose77anymore, anyway10:58
cfhowlettagoose77, how big is the partition?10:59
agoose77So i wondered if the HDD efi parition was leftover from when I was booting from it, e.g can I now remove10:59
agoose77not big, ~538Mb10:59
agoose77MB10:59
ducasseagoose77: if you are talking about the efi partition, you need at least one to boot in uefi mode10:59
cfhowlettagoose77, so a trivial size?  Keep it10:59
highlander_hello, I wanted to install Ubuntu Gnome 17.04 and I'm wondering if I'll end up with the full final release if I keep updating it in a few days when it comes out or will I have to reinstall?10:59
agoose77ducasse, sure, but I don't need it on my HDD though, if I alreayd have one on the drive I boot off?11:00
agoose77cfhowlett, well, It's mainly that it is sitting right between my two data partitions11:00
Cmaj6Anybody can recommend me software for PDF-viewing *WITH* annotation tools (that can be setup with manual keyboard shortcuts) such that the annotations *persist* (for example, when opening the pdf in other software, i still have to see the annotations). The annotations i use very frequently are text highlighting, comments, and text underlining. FoxitReader (for linux) does not allow to manually set shortcuts. Okular does, but i have the UI11:01
Cmaj6of Okular. Ubuntu's built in Document Viewer does not let annotations persist (they are somehow layered, and do not become engrained in the original pdf)11:01
ducasseagoose77: if the firmware is set up to boot from another one, then you can remove the old. check with 'sudo efibootmgr -v' and confirm the uuid11:01
agoose77thanks ducasse , cfhowlett11:01
ducasseCmaj6: have you tried zathura?11:01
SLizzieubuntu should use KDE for default DE instead of GNOME11:05
Cmaj6ducasse, no, haven't heard of that! Will check it out!11:05
Cmaj6thnx!11:05
ducasseCmaj6: you may not like the interface if you don't use vi(m), but it's perfect if you like to keep your hands on the keyboard11:10
Lutenistcfhowlett, any clue how I can go around and troubleshoot?11:12
cfhowlettLutenist, if it's a config issue, you could drop the nuclear option: delete all .files and .folders in your /home11:13
cfhowlettnot my first recommendation, but it will set you back to factory fresh settings11:13
ducassewhoa, wait here.11:13
ducasseLutenist: try _moving_ them first, start with .config11:14
Lutenistyea I'll have access to my external HDD next week so I'll try back it all up and do a full re-install11:17
omagashh0w t0 5P34K 1337?11:19
cfhowlettomagash, wrong channel.  this is ubuntu support.  stay on topic.11:19
mark76My upper case a keeps coming out as a C11:20
ducasse!l33t | omagash11:20
ubottuomagash: 1337 i5 n1gh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.11:20
cfhowletto - m - g11:21
cfhowlettubottu +111:21
mark76QWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBNM11:22
omagashhere in my place, we call them "jejemons" and they don't have that much. Sorry  then, I just found out that irc is for 1337's11:22
mark76Huh, that's weird.  Must be a bug in Pidgin11:22
mark76False alarm11:22
OerHeksfat finger bug, mark76 ?11:23
mark76No :p11:24
mark76C is nowhere near A11:24
tsglovegood morning all o/11:47
OerHekshi tsglove11:48
tsglove=) Hey ya OerHeks !11:48
tsgloveHow's does it look over on your side of the day?   Over here, starting in the office.11:48
shushlmorning people11:49
syntaksmorning11:49
tsgloveo/ shushl syntaks11:49
OerHeksrelaxed sofar, then again this is the ubuntu support channel11:50
shushli need some help, i am running 16.04 on my laptop and i only have suspend mode when i close lid on laptop and its draining battery like crazy, any ideas?11:50
tsglove=)    I am setting up a ubuntu server with dhcp (working 100%), and dns (having problems).   Lets see what I have missed11:50
tsgloveGetting guided by this https://lani78.com/2012/07/22/setting-up-a-dns-for-the-local-network-on-the-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-server/11:50
shushlsame laptop running windows 10 can be suspended for more than 8 hours, with ubuntu in suspended mode it runs out battery in 3-4 hours11:52
shushlany ideas?11:52
tsgloveshushl, not from my side... I wonder what's going on there.11:52
akikshushl: i think my acer f5 laptop is doing the same11:53
tsgloveshushl, have you tried different versions of Ubuntu?11:53
shushlno i only have 16.04 installed that is the latest LTS11:54
shushlthey have 16.10 i can see11:55
tsgloveshushl, or, just for tests... maybe try 14.04?11:55
ducasseshushl: windows and linux are probably invoking different sleep states, aiui linux does not support all of them11:58
shushlok, so what is eating battery during suspend of Ubuntu that fast?11:59
ducasseshushl: as i said, it's probably in another sleep state than it would be under windows, so more of the hardware draws power12:00
_max_i want to add a few users with encrypted homes and set their passwords later, so if i just do: adduser --encrypt-home --... <user>; usermod -aG <groups> <user>; usermod -p PW <user> do i have to fear any negative consequences? because it seems there will be no custom encryption-passphrase set? how are the homes encrypted then?12:00
brainwashshushl: does your system actually enter the sleep state? what does dmesg/journalctl report?12:02
michael__Anyone know how to fix no HDMI sound on a Raspberry Pi with Ubuntu Mate?12:02
shushli have to check this, dont have laptop with me now, on different machine at this time12:03
brainwashmichael__: I suggest asking in #raspberrypi12:04
michael__Ok, thank you. :P12:04
apmclose12:10
apmexit12:10
BluesKajHi folks12:19
kbobhey BluesKaj12:24
taliptakoHi can anyone tell me how can i build https://github.com/webmproject/libwebm this12:27
taliptakoi mean compile i'm on Ubuntu 16.04 when i ran cmake i get this error https://kopy.io/FlPQq12:27
BluesKajhi kbob12:28
taliptakoanyone?12:34
ducassetaliptako: is build-essential installed?12:35
taliptakono12:35
taliptakols12:36
taliptakoyes after the installing build-essential it work12:36
taliptakothanks12:36
ducassenp12:36
taliptakoi compile it and here is the logs https://kopy.io/EDiXP12:42
taliptakohttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/24152810/encoding-ffmpeg-to-mpeg-dash-or-webm-with-keyframe-clusters-for-mediasource/37776212#3777621212:42
taliptakohere is a guy using it like ./sample_muxer12:43
taliptakobut i dont have it12:43
lrojashi all12:44
lrojasi was trying to upgrade from 16.10 to 17.04 by following the instructions in the official documentation12:45
octo8when i do a 'df -H', i only have 1.9 MB size available, I just deleted files, and recycle bin is empty, what's the problem ?12:45
k1l_!17.04 | lrojas12:46
ubottulrojas: Ubuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus) will be the 26th release of Ubuntu.  It is due to be released in April 2017. Discussion in #ubuntu+112:46
ducasseocto8: try 'df -i'12:47
SpaceAcehi all. I'm getting a black screen at bootup. where should i start to find a solution12:47
SpaceAce?12:47
lrojassudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade; check that system settings > Software and Updates > Updates : Notify me of a new ubiuntu version => For Any new version. then alt-F2 update-manager -d12:47
k1l_SpaceAce: "suddenly"? or what happend before?12:47
erik123yoyo12:47
karlmarkuscheeki breeki12:48
octo8ducasse: also a lot of used i nodes, 98%12:48
SpaceAcekil_ just started today. saw some group policy error coming up at startup but didnt write it down12:48
lrojask1l_: i know, but you are suposed to be able to upgrade now to the RC following the instructions on the website... no?12:48
karlmarkusHAHAH12:48
karlmarkusElu hea nali12:48
karlmarkuskkk12:48
k1l_karlmarkus erik123 ask in #ubuntu-ops for the mute to be removed, when you are done trolling.12:49
k1l_lrojas: until final release, use the +1 channel12:49
lrojaswhat's the +1 channel?12:49
k1l_lrojas: scroll up and read the bots message please.12:49
lrojask1l_: thanks12:50
Scungiellihow do I make it so that I don't have to enter a password to get back to my desktop after the screen saver comes on?  new install of lubuntu here.   I'm not worried about security, its just a PC connected to my TV12:52
ducasseocto8: is this all one filesystem?12:53
octo8problem gone, thanks12:53
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w9qbjScungielli: Check in Settings -> Screensaver12:57
Scungiellithanks I'll look12:57
ScungielliHere's a photo of my desktop.  Can someone tell me what this icon is?  Running Lubuntu.  Whenever I click it, it does nothing.  https://snag.gy/MFZvIA.jpg13:08
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msihateball ducasse cfhowlett: I was able to install ubuntu and boot it normally using only the 'nomodeset' option. Thanks for your help!13:11
OerHeksScungielli, here you see it on a dock, it is simple screen recorder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJD9puiabJQ13:11
ScungielliOerHeks - I don't understand.  How do I get rid of it?13:13
OerHeksScungielli, that, i don't know, maybe someone here knows more about Lubuntu13:14
k1l_Scungielli: see if simple screen recorder has a setting for not showing that in systray13:14
BetaSoulHey Guys and Gals, can some one explain to me why I Can't use smb address devices. For example, set up a new freenas box, but freenas.local isn't found(Works fine on the macs we have around).13:15
Scungielliwhere do I find Simple Screen recorder?13:15
BetaSoulhttps://github.com/MaartenBaert/ssr13:16
BetaSoulSo, no love?13:16
k1l_Scungielli: did you install it?13:16
Scungiellino, I just installed the OS13:17
Scungielliand it was there13:17
kostkonScungielli, which OS13:17
k1l_Scungielli: no, you not "just installed the os". since there is kodi and teamviewer installed13:17
BetaSoulScungielli: Which spin did you instal?13:17
ScungielliLubuntu13:18
Scungielli16.1013:18
Scungiellispin?13:18
k1l_Scungielli: so again: did you install simple screen recorder?13:18
ScungielliI did not13:18
BetaSoulScungielli: Then you need to do that.13:18
Scungiellijust the apps on the desktop that you see13:18
Scungielliinstall it?13:19
OerHeksmaybe ssr is standard, or i am wrong about that icon,..13:19
k1l_BetaSoul: no he doesnt need to do that13:19
ScungielliJust want to get red of it13:19
BluesKajfedora has spins , ubuntu has flavors13:19
k1l_Scungielli: as you can see, a blank new lubuntu 16.10 doesnt have that icon: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Lubuntu_16.10_Desktop.png13:20
BetaSoulSorry, been working on fedora servers lately.13:20
k1l_Scungielli: so again: what did you install?13:20
nwehello, I running ubuntu 16.04 LTS with zfs and snapshots, I have a script that create a new snapshot, unmount the existing one from /mnt/foo , and than mounting the newly created snapshot.. but when I trying to delete the last used snapshot I get dataset busy..13:20
nweI haven't use zfs hold.. so it´s not that..13:21
Scungiellijust Kodi and TeamViewer13:21
nweand I can found the snapshot in /proc/*/mount ....13:21
Scungiellibut its been there since fresh install13:21
BetaSoulIs there a network resource that's connecting to the snapshot nwe?13:21
krishnapls help me i installed ubuntu alongside windows 10 but after installation complete the system reboot to windows 10 only13:21
Scungiellihow do I get rid of it?13:21
BetaSoulkrishna: System, build, etc?13:21
krishnalaptop aspire e 1513:22
hateballmsi: did you try and get the nvidia blob working, or are you content with using nomodeset?13:23
OerHeksScungielli,  ... maybe it is kodi or teamviewer :-D13:23
Scungielliit was there before I installed them13:23
Scungiellior at least how do I hide that icon?13:23
BetaSoulkrishna: So Uefi bios?13:24
nweBetaSoul: nope, that mountpoint is only using by nginx (For host my own apt-mirror)..13:24
msihateball: I'm going without the nvidia blob. I don't need it, so I thought I'd better leave things alone now that they are working13:24
hateballmsi: :)13:24
krishnauefi i selected13:24
gogetajust install the better open source drivers13:24
nweBetaSoul: sorry for my poor english..13:24
gogetano neeed for nivida blob13:24
BetaSoulnwe: This may sound crazy, but try stopping nginx before unmounting?13:24
BetaSoulkrishna: When you installed, how did you do the partitions?13:25
krishnabefore i install i created 50 gb unpartitioned space13:26
nweBetaSoul: I have try that..13:26
krishnaand i installed ubuntu alongside windows option13:26
BetaSoulkrishna: hrm....13:27
BetaSoulnwe: logs?13:27
krishnaafter intallation comple the system reboot and directly going windows 10 any dualboot menu came13:28
krishnanot any dualboot menu came13:28
BetaSoulSo no grub or anything. Hrm....Was this a fresh install of window/nix, or was this the factory install?13:29
gogetamsi https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers trust me these free driver smash the defult oones13:29
OerHeksbetter use the official driver ppa13:30
nweBetaSoul: I using zfs to store my .deb-package in /mnt/foo , after I have push new package to /mnt/foo I creating a new snapshot to /mnt/foo_production and deleting the oldest.. but before I had lock one snapshot by mistake,  then I couldn't remove it so I release it.. and for a while everything worked like a charm, but no I get dataset is busy13:30
OerHekshttps://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa13:30
gogetaoibaf smashes offical13:30
OerHeksgogeta, e does not help with bugs, so it is bad13:30
gogetamainly due to offical being always out of date and slow13:31
krishnathis is not factory installed lap13:31
gogetait does help with bugs13:31
OerHeksc/e-he13:31
gogetanewer mesa is way better then the older versions13:31
gogetaand it was for the guy who whanted to use the free drivers on his nivida13:32
krishnaneed to try fresh windows installation and again try for ubuntu?13:32
k1l_newer from 3rd party PPA means: own risk, own support13:32
BetaSoulnwe: I'm still getting used to zfs. Could there be a logged user/service using it?13:32
BetaSoulkrishna: The dell boot loader is kinda  PIA, so you might. But its likely recoverable. Do some googling about your model and grub.13:33
SnowboarderNividia, new card, newer hurd of it13:33
krishnaok thankyou13:33
nweBetaSoul: hmm how can I check that lsof on the snapshot ?13:33
BetaSoulnwe: Not sure.13:34
nweBetaSoul: because the old snapshot isn't mounted..13:34
BetaSoulnwe: Wait, it unmounts but the new share won't mount because it says the mount point is busy?13:35
xebrahi, what does ubuntu do by default for spinning down HDD after a period of inactivity? Is there a default, or who/what decides the spin down interval?13:37
nweBetaSoul: no no, it unmount the the old snapshot from /mnt/foo_production and mount the new one. I running zfs list -t snapshot |grep .. to extract the oldest snapshot to delete, then it says dataset busy13:37
nwethe snapshot I trying to delete is from the end of march..13:37
gogetaxebra, that probly controled by acpi13:38
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k1l_xebra: hdparm can set the time for spindown13:39
gogetathere you go13:39
BetaSoulnew: can you mount the old snapshot to a new location? I'm wondering if its not unmounting clean.13:39
nweI will try13:39
k1l_xebra: but keep in mind, that spinup and spindown is a lot of stress for the hdd. dont set it to low to not do too much up/downs13:39
nweBetaSoul: hmm I get filesystem zpool1/tank-mirror@2017-03-28-08-38-30' is already mounted13:41
xebrak1l_, I'm just wondering if there's a default (since I've never touched it) and if it actually ever spins down. Even leaving this chat open will use the disk (save log), I also have conky on my desktop as a system monitor, that might use the disk constantly...13:42
gogetaxebra, they normaly dont unless the system is sleeping13:42
BetaSoulnwe: AHAH~!13:42
nweBetaSoul: now when I running mount I its also mounted on  /mnt/foo_production..13:42
k1l_xebra: there are caches.13:43
nweso it doesnt get unmounted correctly13:43
xebrak1l_, yeah, that's also true. Pretty complicated13:44
gogetaxebra, just would be alot of stress to spin up and down every time your away for only a few moments13:45
xebragogeta, I know, I think a value like half an hour would make sense though, if nothing has used the disk in half an hour chances are I'm not around and no applications are running13:47
gogetaxebra, if you set your sleep to that kind of time same effect13:47
gogetaxebra, you can even tell it to hibernate after 30 min13:49
gogetaxebra, if you know what features im talkin about13:49
yeomanhey guys, it seems our dev server has been compromised with cryptonight miner that runs every hour with a custom logind.conf13:49
yeomanhas anyone heard of this before?13:49
yeomanhttps://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.hipchat.com/484519/3523379/uOL4f4saUON3dG1/hacksopbamboo.PNG13:50
gogetayeoman, sounds like one of those bitcoin trojins13:50
yeomanlink is pic of the process13:50
yeomanyeh13:50
yeomanexactly13:50
yeomanbut it doesnt show up in any cron13:50
k1l_yeoman: i would format that machine and make sure the services have better passwords/key-logins13:51
yeomanyeah seems like that would be the best option13:51
yeomanhave you heard of this before?13:51
gogetayeoman, kil likes the nucler option13:51
yeomanhaha yeah13:52
yeomanstraight from orbit13:52
k1l_gogeta: if a system is alreday compromised there is no way to make it "clean" again13:52
gogetaso untrue13:53
gogetai make the big money making systems clean again13:53
yeomannice gogeta13:53
yeomanthis is just a shitty dev box13:53
aotaointbini'd have to agree with k1l_.13:54
gogetayeoman, yea the easy option would be format it if its not a critcal machine13:54
aotaointbinyou can salvage data and rebuild the system, but that's about it.13:54
k1l_gogeta: no, the only way is to format13:54
xebraI agree with k1l_ , reinstalling / restoring backups is the ONLY safe way to clean a system. Unless something got into the firmware even13:54
k1l_gogeta: you are actually advicing to keep an unsafe system running. this is bad advice.13:55
yeomanwell yeah technically bad advice13:55
yeomanbut restore vs "repair" has a different cost13:55
aotaointbindepends who your audience is, indeed.13:56
k1l_yeoman: no. that is just excuses13:56
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aotaointbinno need to be all dogmatic. the average windows home user doesn't care, for example. whether or not that's stupid is of no concern to them.13:57
yeomanits funny to see when it runs, it calls home to a single russian IP13:58
gogetayeoman, well if its a windows 10 box reformat out linux on it hahaha13:58
yeomanits ubuntu 16.0413:58
yeomanlts13:58
gogetaoh outch13:58
yeomanhence why im in here13:59
yeomankind of a last resort if you will13:59
gogetayeoman, how you manage that one13:59
yeomanbut they kind of wipe their ass with security round here13:59
gogetalol13:59
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yeomangogeta manage it through ssh, with basic authentication only available on the local network14:01
gogetayeoman, but yea those bitcoin miner virus are the new fad14:01
yeomanyeah14:01
yeomanits kind of smart too14:01
aotaointbinyou'd notice if it was miner malware.14:01
gogetahe did14:01
yeomanthis one just takes 75% of the core14:01
xboxhey14:01
yeomanso on a fast machine it still is quite responsive14:01
aotaointbinclever.14:01
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yeomanyeah real clever14:02
gogetathe call to the russion ip is to empty the wallet14:02
yeomanmost likely14:02
yeomansome small shitty ass random coin14:02
gogetayeoman, maybe some more things14:02
gogetayeoman, thats a bitcoin trojin14:02
yeomandont know if you saw the screenshot14:03
DArqueBishopOf course, there's no guarantee the miner isn't the only thing running on the box.14:04
yeomanyeah and logs could be manipulated14:04
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gogetayeoman, you have his ip you can always run metaspolit see if he has a old outdated box14:04
gogetayeoman, get some revenge14:04
DArqueBishopThe ONLY safe option is to format/reinstall, and make sure any local accounts have different passwords if you do plan on making it internet-facing.14:04
DArqueBishopI would definitely NOT follow gogeta's advice.14:05
yeomanwhat is the most common way of infection for this?14:05
yeomanssh compromise?14:05
gogetawhy not burn his box down14:05
OerHeksyeoman, you tell us: what did you do14:06
yeomanwell it would become something of ceremony14:06
yeomanhaha14:06
yeomanwell it runs a bamboo CI facing outward on port 44314:06
DArqueBishopyeoman: it depends on what internet facing services there are. It could easily be a weak password on SSH that was brute-forced.14:06
gogetayeoman, it was a naught site wasent it14:06
yeomanbecause some devs need t o access it14:06
aotaointbindevs should have vpn accounts.14:06
yeomanSSH is open on 22 but not facing outward in any way14:06
DArqueBishopyeoman: if you counterattack, you run the risk of angering the hackers if it is their box. Chances are it's someone else's box who was also compromised being used as a jumping off point.14:07
yeomanso it made me think hmmm some guy fucked up here and downloaded some shady ass xxx while at work14:07
DArqueBishopMore to the point, there's no legal basis for counter-hacking and so it's just as illegal.14:07
OerHeksyeoman, no need for that word choise, keep this channel family friendly, thanks.14:07
yeomanyeah14:07
yeomanok my bad14:07
gogetayeoman, or he got in threw a weakness in bamboo14:08
yeomanyeah that would also be possible14:08
LachezarHey all. I have problems with "Google Nexus 5" on Xubuntu 16.10: it does not seem to behave the same way as my "HTC One X", the devices in /dev/bus/usb/*/* are different14:08
BluesKajyeoman:  you're not bad, just mistaken14:08
gogetayeoman, or a devs password was hacked14:09
gogetayeoman, passwrods leak so often these days14:09
yeomanyeah there's just so many ways14:09
yeomanreally nice here though14:09
yeomanmany different insights14:09
gogetayeoman, when you bring the box back up defently force a password change on everyone14:10
xebrayeoman, what do you use that server for? You could have been hacked via another application too14:10
aotaointbingenerally speaking, don't expose atlassian apps.14:11
yeomani see. well we made the transition a while ago here because bamboo cloud was EOL14:11
yeomanso transfer to bamboo server14:11
yeomanbecause the current workflow still requires this software14:11
yeomanand exposed to keep the connection between JIRA cloud and bitbucket available14:12
yeomanotherwise the integration is completely lost14:12
OerHeksyeoman, sad to hear, fix it, format it, you know what to do.14:12
yeomanyup14:12
yeomanis there a different channel dedicated to these kind of questions?14:13
yeomanor is this an appropriate place?14:13
zenguy? ##security14:14
xebrain ##security you might be able to talk directly with the guys who hacked your server :P LOL14:14
gogetalol14:14
DArqueBishopAt the very least don't make the server internet-facing. If your devs need access to it give them VPN access.14:15
yeomanhaha14:16
yeomanwill check that out14:16
gogetathere is alot i would do to lock it down even internet facing14:16
yeomanbasic hardening14:16
yeoman?14:16
gogetalike whiteliting ips of the employees14:16
gogetaand blocking everything else14:16
scottjlvpn is more secure14:17
yeomanja14:17
gogetayea vpn to14:17
yeomani think your heads would explode over here, still stuck on pptp "because it still works" right?14:17
scottjlick14:18
scottjlopenvpn or softether14:18
scottjlno pptp.14:18
gogetayeoman, openvpn tends to have alot less weakness then anything else you where using14:18
yeomanyeah14:18
Ancerwhat command to search a filename or program14:19
yeomanbut there are some people here who are so stubborn14:19
gogetaAncer, type in the search bar14:19
scottjlAncer: mlocate slocate14:19
scottjlAncer: find14:19
aotaointbinwait, your bitbucket is internet-exposed too?14:19
yeomanno bitbucket is in the cloud too14:19
aotaointbin'in the cloud' == 'on someone else's server'14:20
scottjl+114:20
aotaointbinpresumably not behind a vpn also.14:20
Rumbleswould anyone care to tell me if it's possible to run the bash command "rm -rf !(some-folder)" in dash? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/43348129/how-to-run-rm-rf-folder-in-dash14:20
* aotaointbin sighs14:20
gogetaRumbles, yes you can run rm in bash lol14:21
Rumblesnot bash dash14:21
aotaointbinyou can run arbitrary commands in dash, yes.14:21
scottjlit's funny how people (esp non-technical managers) always seem to think "the cloud" is a magical place where resources are unlimited, free, completely secure and always updated14:21
aotaointbinthe question is can you do !(some-folder) in dash.14:22
Rumblescan you run "rm -rf !(folder)" in dash? I can't....14:22
Rumblesyeah, how do you do that aotaointbin ?14:22
Rumblesis it possible?14:22
Rumblesaotaointbin can you tell me if that has a name?14:23
aotaointbinman dash14:24
aotaointbini'm reading now14:24
aotaointbinsection 'Shell Patterns' mentions it...14:24
Rumbleshah I have been looking but I couldn't find it :/14:24
aotaointbinby itself it expands to the pid of the most recent background command executed from the current shell...14:25
aotaointbinin an expression it does negation..14:25
aotaointbini'm not a bash guy, so i'm not sure what the difference is, but there does seem to be one (or more).14:26
aotaointbinno history expansion in dash, it seems..14:27
kfizzHi, I've used CCSM to set up Viewport switching using left and mouse scrollwheel (you can pivot the scroll wheel left or right). This works as long as the cursor is on the desktop background. Is there a way to enable it even if the cursor is over an application window?14:27
brian_I want to add a video message to the login page on 16.04, what file would I edit?14:29
ctjctjis there a way to use apt to verify the checksum of all installed packages?14:29
ctjctjOr dpkg14:29
k1l_brian_: i am not aware of such a feature14:31
brian_On password fail a graphic shows up that says 'try again', I want it to do something else14:32
LiquidXexit14:33
faugusztinbrian_: i highly doubt there is a lightdm skin with that capability14:33
ioriactjctj, if the pkg is still in the cache you can md5sum that pkg, and check with apt-cache show pkg14:34
ctjctjioria, Not quite what I'm looking for.  I want to check the md5sum of the installed files from those packages.14:34
brian_this is open source, if it doesn't have it now it will, I just need to know which program handles the login screen so that I can put some new code in it.14:34
faugusztinbrian_: lightdm14:35
brian_thank you14:35
wedgiectjctj: debsums14:35
ctjctjwedgie, thanks!14:35
immui am getting this message failed to download repository info14:37
OerHeksimmu sorry to hear that, what repository?14:38
k1l_immu: put the command with output please onto paste.ubuntu.com and show the url here14:38
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CrackerJackk1l_  chears hahahhaahahaahaha14:41
immuk1 should be sudo apt-get update ?14:42
OerHeksimmu, yes, update will do14:45
gilmaraurora14:46
immuhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24361248/14:47
OerHeksimmu, untill release 13th april, support for zesty is in #ubuntu+1, skype without key, that is funny14:50
_max_i want to add a few users with encrypted homes,setting their passwords later,does this order make sense: adduser --encrypt-home --... <user>; usermod -aG <groups> <user>; usermod -p PW <user> ? do i have to fear any negative consequences? because it seems there will be no custom encryption-passphrase set? how are the homes encrypted then?14:50
OerHeks_max_, without passwords,... why???14:51
Scungiellijeez for the life of me, I can't figure out how to get rid of this tray icon.   https://snag.gy/MFZvIA.jpg   Can anyone help?14:52
_max_because it is a non-interactive post-install script, running after an automated install with fai. i have only the hashes of the user passwors and would add them later with usermod.14:52
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_max_but i am open for better solutions to archieve this :)14:52
CrackerJackhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24361281/  immu  :)14:54
CrackerJacksee14:55
tgm4883_max_: I don't see how that could possibly work14:55
ksbalajiI tried lowlatency-- now my 16.04 is silent. Something to do with default sound. help14:55
naccksbalaji: does the sound come back with the regular kernel?14:55
ksbalajiregular kernel is silent.14:56
tgm4883_max_: worst case, it sets a random password that you don't know and you can't decrypt the home directory. Best case, it sets no password and everyone can decrypt it?14:56
omagashAfter i did a fresh install  of Ubuntu 16.10 amd64 from 16.10 i386 my x-710bh's media buttons seem to not work anymore14:56
omagashwhat went wrong?14:56
tgm4883_max_: why not just make it an interactive post-install script?14:56
omagashplease help14:56
octo8Hello, i'm uncompressing a file using    'gunzip database.sql.gz'    , how to know the what is the progress ?14:56
immuCrackerJack: see what?14:56
ksbalajinacc: regular kernel is silent14:57
CrackerJackhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24361281/14:57
_max_thats what i was fearing. probably because im lazy -.-14:57
_max_ill give the interactive a try14:57
codepython777I've a /dev/ttyUSB0 device. How do I find out what it corresponds to in lsusb? more details on usb0?14:57
omagashseen (Q_Q)~~14:58
ducasseCrackerJack: is there a point to these pastes?14:58
naccksbalaji: hrm, so before youadded lowlatency kernel the generic kernel worked? And then added lowlatency kernel and sound stopped working -- and then generic also didn't work?14:58
ksbalajihow do I change sound system from something default to alsa or pa or jack?14:58
ksbalajinacc: you are on dot.14:59
_28KbI installed alsa mixer14:59
_max_because when i wasm anually running the commands, i could not acces the encrypted files, but after setting a password for the user, i could without a problem14:59
lmatoshello ... does anyone knows how can i disable the access to the usb drives to the users? I already removed the user from plugdev and all groups, removed the fuse packages, disabled automount, but still, plug in a pen and it shows to the user14:59
ksbalajinacc: But, sound was good in low latency. When I returned back to generic , problem started15:00
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ksbalajinacc: Though I always remain a beginner with ubuntu (many years perhaps) I got jack working in low latency. But, I did something which meddled with profile in generic sound fall back.15:03
naccksbalaji: and now sound doesn't work in generic?15:06
naccksbalaji: so is it that jack isnt working in generic?15:06
ksbalajinacc: yes.15:06
naccksbalaji: but it still works in lowlatency?15:06
ksbalajinacc: No sound in generic. I got upset . Didn't try opening low latency .15:07
toshiba_leatherGparted continue to have error message.(gpartedbin:5043): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 53 was not found when attempting to remove it15:08
OerHeks<ksbalaji> I tried lowlatency-- now my 16.04 is silent. .. confusing15:08
naccksbalaji: i would check if it still works in lowlatency, i guess. I'm assming it's really something with jack and not the kernel itself, but I don't know15:08
ksbalajinacc: I felt I better get sound working in generic before digging again into low latency.15:09
toshiba_leatherI tried a lot of times. apt-get to remove and install ,still do not work.15:09
naccksbalaji: i don't know anything about jack, but there is15:10
nacc!jack | ksbalaji15:10
ubottuksbalaji: The JACK Audio Connection Kit is a sound server meant for professional applications, allowing different audio protocols and applications to interconnect in nearly unlimited ways. This is the core of Ubuntu Studio's audio workflow. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/What%20is%20JACK for more information on JACK in general.15:10
naccksbalaji: is pulseaudio running in generic15:10
ksbalajinacc: Probably you are right. I can get some sound through robust programmes like vlc and audacious. But the system sound is gone15:10
ksbalajinacc: Yes ! PA gives output15:13
ksbalajinacc: I feel the default sound profile is to be repaired. any help?15:14
naccksbalaji: hrm, i don't know but now someone may be able to help15:15
ksbalajinacc: thanks for trying.15:16
pietrobuongiorno15:18
altrgyzirc.undernet.org15:23
Lavinhogood afternoon15:28
Lavinhohow to instal ubuntu on lenovo ideapad 100s 11" lby15:28
Lavinho?15:28
toshiba_leather我的硬碟分割表壞了, 有人幫我嘛?15:28
toshiba_leatherGo to ubuntu website. Download and install it.15:29
nacc!jp | toshiba_leather15:29
ubottutoshiba_leather: 日本語の場合は /join #ubuntu-jp または /join #kubuntu-jp を入力して下さい。15:29
genii!cn | toshiba_leather15:29
ubottutoshiba_leather: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw15:29
OerHeksLavinho, troublemaker, *if* you get it installed with 32 bit uefi, not all hardware will work .. http://askubuntu.com/questions/815301/can-ubuntu-be-installed-on-an-ideapad-100s-atom-laptop15:29
geniinacc: His IP resolves to Taipei, not somewhere in Japan :)15:30
naccgenii: ah sorry!15:30
toshiba_leatherubottu ,thanks15:31
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)15:31
GikaHhello world15:33
toshiba_leatherI know both Chinese and Japanese.15:33
nikolov_k1l_ opa e man15:34
nikolov_hahhaa15:34
LavinhoOerHeks, laptop issue15:36
Lavinhodont installation15:36
toshiba_leathere man15:40
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backboxHello15:48
backboxplease learn me15:48
backboxHello15:49
PipeItToDevNullLearn you about what15:52
nacc!details | backbox15:54
ubottubackbox: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.15:54
naccbackbox: this is the support channel for helping resolve issues with ubuntu, not general chitchat (see #ubuntu-offtopic for that)(15:54
ScungielliIs there anyway to make it so that I NEVER need to enter a password for my computer.  I have autologin on boot up, but I'd like to never have to enter password for when doing updates/installs etc.  I'm not worried about security on this PC16:02
naccScungielli: why don't you worry about security? :)16:03
naccScungielli: because you are asking for passwordless sudo, which means if anyone is able to remotely login as your user, they then have root on your system16:03
PipeItToDevNullScungielli, run as root, or make sudo passwordless16:04
PipeItToDevNullBut it is not a good idea, like nacc said16:04
OerHekssudo visudo , replace "sudo  ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" with "%sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL"16:04
OerHeksbut you run into issues :-D16:05
nordedax and not push me lame16:08
daxnorde: hrm?16:08
norde:)16:08
nordebann me16:08
nordeDreaman16:09
nordebiheavor16:09
nordealabala16:09
daxoh, ok16:09
tarikatdax and lame16:10
shadygooseI have this issue http://askubuntu.com/questions/764727/hbonow-on-ubuntu-16-04lts16:12
shadygoosehal or pipelight doesn't fix it. will this be fixed in 17.04?16:12
open`dax chears :) lame16:13
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OerHeksshadygoose, maybe this 'hal' works ? https://www.howtogeek.com/239682/how-to-watch-hulu-on-ubuntu-and-other-linux-distributions/16:15
OerHeksyou will need firefox 52 ESR for that, i guess.16:15
zak`dax chears amatior :)16:16
shadygoose<OerHeks> tried it. it doesn't fix it. used chrome/firefox. the 10 second rating screen loads and it keeps on buffering after that.16:16
OerHeksshadygoose, then i have no clue16:17
daxzak`: amusingly, it takes you longer to generate new addresses than it takes me to nuke them. consider finding something better to do with your life16:17
shadygooseOerHeks does it make a difference? I installed flash16:17
PCatineanhow do I extract from a .conf file that contains a lot of data, the version number of zc.buildout and setuptools like this? https://hastebin.com/xejifofuji.makefile16:17
Scungielli ok so its the Dropbox icon that keeps showing up in the system tray.  I still want the Dropbox program to autostart, but I don't need it showing in the system tray.  so how do I disable that specific indicator icon?  especially since its not displaying correctly anyways16:17
shadygooseOerHeks thanks anyway. anyone else wanna pitch in?16:18
helplessHello, can anyone help me out with partitioning? :)16:22
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helplessHow many partitions does Windows 10 use? I'm trying to empty all the Linux partitions until doing a fresh install16:22
daxhelpless: on a fresh install of Windows, i.e. not the crap pre-installed by manufacturers, two16:23
helplessMy windows is semi-fresh, it's been here for a week while I have been getting used to Ubuntu16:23
helplessbut it's completely empty16:23
helplessWeird, I have four16:24
daxdid you install it yourself or did it come with your computer16:24
xanguaI just wipe Windows the first day16:24
helplessI installed it myself16:24
daxthen i do not know why it would have four partitions16:24
helplessSome of them might still be from Ubuntu but I don't know which ones16:24
daxah. yeah, Ubuntu would make at least two16:25
helplesshttp://i.imgur.com/Zdlgirw.png16:25
helplessCan I link imgurs here?16:25
daxyeah16:25
minimecshadygoose: is this pipelight a flashplayer replacement? If 'yes', you might also try the Chrome/Chromium flash replacement 'pepperflash'. 'sudo apt install *pepperflash*' <-- will install two packages...16:25
daxhelpless: can you get the rest of the description for the second one?16:25
daxi forget how to do it on windows, maybe click or double click or something16:25
helplessEfi system partition16:26
DJoneshelpless: On mine which was a fresh install of Win 8.1 from dvd (not oem supplied), later upgraded to Win 10, mine has 5 partitions before my Ubutu partitions, Windows recovery, EFI, MS Reserved, Filesystem (which is drive C) plus a 2nd filesystem of 528Mb16:26
helplessSo Windows has Efi too, better not wipe that out16:26
daxoh true, I guess if we're counting EFI system partitions16:26
helplessWonder what the "healthy" 1gb is for16:26
daxthe 1.00GB one at the end doesn't look Windowsy. The rest are Windows + your EFI system partition16:27
helplessDoes Efi still contain data from Ubuntu?16:27
helplessOr does every OS have its own Efi partition?16:27
vivusHello all16:28
helplesshttp://i.imgur.com/RvJCumN.png I should be good to go for a fresh Ubuntu install now?16:28
daxI'm not sure how Ubuntu does it. Theoretically according to spec you can have multiple ESPs. I think Windows prefers to just have one.16:28
vivuswhat is the latest version of chromium browser for ubuntu 14.04 ?16:28
dax!info chromium-browser trusty16:29
ubottuchromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium web browser, open-source version of Chrome. In component universe, is optional. Version 53.0.2785.143-0ubuntu0.14.04.1.1145 (trusty), package size 55474 kB, installed size 211603 kB16:29
daxvivus: 5316:29
vivusdax: how do I update it? it is a very old version16:29
ducassePCatinean: if you have one of those strings, you can do it like this - echo "zc.buildout = 2.5.2" | cut -d '=' -f 2 | cut -c '2-'16:30
OerHeksvivus, just run updates, unless you have 32 bit, then there is no more chrome for you16:30
zak`dax: ubottu: idea for my bans is ego or16:31
OerHeks"In March 2016, Google will stop releasing Chrome for 32-bit Linux "16:31
vivusOerHeks: I have run the software updater and have the latest version from the repos, which is outdated16:32
OerHeksvivus, and what version is that?16:32
lucky`hahahah16:33
elkylucky`: we've noted your grievance so could please you take this somewhere else that doesn't involve disrupting our genuine users please16:34
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lucky`just see some lames16:35
minimecvivus: This ppa look promising... Trusty --> chromium-browser - 57.0.2987.98-0ubuntu0.12.04.1039 https://launchpad.net/~canonical-chromium-builds/+archive/ubuntu/stage/+packages16:35
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Guest8840huhj16:36
elkyGuest8840: hi, need help?16:36
OerHeksminimec, that is the same as16:37
OerHeks!info chromium-browser16:37
ubottuchromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium web browser, open-source version of Chrome. In component universe, is optional. Version 57.0.2987.98-0ubuntu0.16.10.1344 (yakkety), package size 63566 kB, installed size 253101 kB16:37
naccOerHeks: except for trusty16:37
minimecOerHeks: Yeah but the latest versioni for 14.04 is '53.0....' http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/chromium-browser16:38
OerHeksah i see, how odd ..16:38
vivusOerHeks: I guess you missed the part of which ubuntu I am using :P16:39
nacc!latest | minimec, vivus:16:39
ubottuminimec, vivus:: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.16:39
downgreatelky birata mi se stopli zaradi teb16:39
naccvivus: minimec: do not use that ppa, though16:39
nacchttps://launchpad.net/~canonical-chromium-builds/+archive/ubuntu/stage16:39
naccread the warning in the description16:40
OerHeksvivus, no, i made the chromium/chrome error16:40
naccso, prsumably, there will be a security update for 14.04 at some point16:40
vivusis it wise to upgrade a distro directly from the system itself? I am scared that I may break things by doing so16:41
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naccvivus: how else would you do it?16:43
vivusnacc: putting the LTS on a CD and doing a fresh install16:43
naccvivus: oh, that's not an upgrade16:43
naccvivus: that's a ... fresh install :)16:43
vivuswell technically it is an upgrade ?16:43
naccvivus: i have been upgrading for years without issue, but then again many people have problems (often with 3rd party packages etc)16:43
naccvivus: no, an upgrade is something you do from A -> B. You are installing B, it doesn't matter what A was.16:44
vivuswhen does 18.04 come out?16:44
naccApril 201816:44
naccvivus: as the name suggests16:44
ScungielliQuestion:  I still want the Dropbox program to autostart, but I don't need it showing in the system tray.  so how do I disable that specific indicator icon?  especially since its not displaying correctly anyways16:45
spaceworldelky woman or man chears16:45
vivusoh wow, I never considered it like that. 18.04 = April 201816:45
xiusfistwhen exactly is zesty zapus droping? the website says april but it is april right now and it still isn't here16:46
naccvivus: what did you think it meant? that's how all the releases have been named16:46
fugeewhy is the default behavior to update the creation date just because i copied a file to another folder (that doesn't mean the file changed)  or even ftp'd? why oh why oh why? is it a conspiracy to ruin everybody's book-keeping on a universal scale?16:46
OerHeksxiusfist, 13th april16:46
naccxiusfist: iirc, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseSchedule16:46
vivusjust arbitrary stepping. 9>10>11>...>15>16>17>1816:46
naccvivus: well, that was a bad assumption :)16:46
xiusfistOerHeks: ok cool16:46
naccfugee: copied or moved?16:47
naccfugee: those are different operations16:47
xiusfistwhat is the best free tool on windows to make a ubuntu usb flash drive installer16:47
nnybywhat is ubuntu's default window manager called? is it gnome?16:48
fugeenacc: copied16:48
naccfugee: then it's a new file in the target directory16:48
fugeeso what16:48
drakafiki fiki dani muter elky16:48
vivusxiusfist: unetbootin16:48
naccfugee: it was just created in the new directory16:48
fugeewhy would anyone assume i wanna change the creation date16:48
naccfugee: you want cp --preserve if you want different behavior16:48
naccfugee: it's not *changing* the creation date.16:49
naccfugee: it's creating a file16:49
fugeeit's a conspiracy i swear16:49
otronickkHi16:49
naccfugee: no, it's not, it seems like you don't understand how files work, maybe16:49
minimecnnyby: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_(user_interface)16:49
nnybythx16:49
fugeenacc: so then how would i benefit from the changing of the creation date16:49
naccfugee: it'16:50
naccfugee: it's *not* changing anything16:50
naccfugee: it's creating a new file, which as attributes specific to that file's creation16:50
fugeei copied, didn't create new16:50
xiusfistOerHeks: ok cool16:50
naccfugee: do you understand what i said before?16:50
naccfugee: copy is creating a new file16:51
naccfugee: move is moving an existing file16:51
naccfugee: you need to tell copy to not modify timestamps if you don't wnat it to. But the default is of course to set them to when the file was actually created.16:51
fugeenacc: merriam-webster may be intrigued by your definitions16:52
naccfugee: ok, you're trolling at this point, if you want actual help, maybe someone else will be able to. I gave you the command you need to use, and why your assumptions are incorrect on any unix system.16:52
fugeeimagine how many files have their admissibility as evidence or even their auditability destroyed before someone notices this is happening16:53
ducassefugee: you are copying the file contents, the attributes reflect when the copy was made16:53
fugeehow convenient for large rip-off corporations16:53
skitsIf using any unix system at command line there are certain basic functions (on any os) that a user a that level should know already16:53
nacc... wut?16:54
nacc!ot | fugee16:54
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fugeei understand elephants in the room are off topic; the discussion is discontinued on my part16:55
elkytaralej: hi.16:56
crazycoderhello everybody16:56
crazycoderi would like to test my build (cpu+cooler) is there a "stress test" ...and a tool to check the temp? (i am using intel i7 6700k)16:57
shadygoosethe mouse pointer is very sensitive. trying to close a window by clicking the teeny tiny "X" takes surgical precision.reducing the sensitivity doesn't make a difference. comments?16:57
ducassecrazycoder: maybe 'stress' will work for you16:58
taralejcrazycoder:   apt install inxi16:58
taralejinxi -F16:58
taralejelky: {}16:58
crazycodertaralej, pardon but does it stress each core of the CPU?16:59
crazycoderi read there are stress test that only test 1 core16:59
elkytaralej: perhaps you should explain to the user what that command is going to do16:59
OerHeksstress -c 4 # for 4 cores ..16:59
crazycoderOerHeks, does it tell the temp too ?17:00
skitsHaving trouble wording a question to google to get relevant results. I am not familiar enough with the system for changelogs to be helpful, so I was trying to find a list of items that changed in 16+ that would change how apache/nginx works with ubuntu itself. (Or would that be a better question for a different channel). Looking more specifically for if 16+ handles webserver dns forwarding differently than in prior versions?17:00
OerHekscrazycoder, no, that is what inxi -F does17:00
naccskits: maybe ask in #ubuntu-server17:00
crazycoderOerHeks, ok so i should start "stress" command and then check the temp with the other command17:01
naccskits: but what do you mean by 16+? and changed relative to what?17:01
OerHekscrazycoder, jups, that is doable17:01
harry_Hi, does anyone has install QT-Make 5.6 into an arm64,17:01
crazycoderok17:01
OerHekscrazycoder, old tutor 12.04, but still valid > http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/11/stress-test-your-ubuntu-computer-with-stress/17:02
shadygooseNOTICE ME! <shadygoose> the mouse pointer is very sensitive. trying to close a window by clicking the teeny tiny "X" takes surgical precision.reducing the sensitivity doesn't make a difference. comments?17:02
crazycoderOerHeks, thanks!17:02
OerHeks" stress the CPU, RAM and the HDD at the same time"  you want this :-D17:02
nacc!patience | shadygoose17:03
ubottushadygoose: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/17:03
skitsI previously used 14.04 exclusively and never had any issues. But when setting up droplets and test servers it seems the interation with forwarded domains is handled differently. After setting up vhosts on any webserver it seems to refuse to display(in browser) dns info, just public ips.17:04
shadygoose<nacc> <ubottu> ok. my bad :(17:04
skitsThought maybe 16+(04) might have somethign extra I was missing17:04
naccskits: right, so 16+ (to me) implies all versions including and after 16.04, but you are asking about 16.04 specifically?17:05
naccskits: or you mean you've tried all newer versions and they all have this issue?17:05
mikeymopdoes the /etc/hosts file play any role in domain resolution?17:05
naccmikeymop: yes17:05
harry_ubuntu 16.04 on arm64 has only qmake 3.0 but I need to use qt-5.6.0 is there any way to install it?17:05
naccmikeymop: depending on local configuation17:05
nacc!info qt5-qmake trusty | harry_17:06
ubottuharry_: qt5-qmake (source: qtbase-opensource-src): Qt 5 qmake Makefile generator tool. In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.1+dfsg-1ubuntu14.3 (trusty), package size 1222 kB, installed size 4876 kB17:06
crazycoderOerHeks, yes cpu + ram17:06
skitsI tried 16.04 and 16.10 i think it was. I reverted to 14.04 on my test server and did not have the issue17:07
naccskits: i would ask in #ubuntu-server17:07
skitsok, thank you very much nacc17:08
harry_<nacc> I did install 5.2.1 but the QT creator won't compile on it it requires 5.6.0 or newer version, is there a way to fix that?17:08
nacc!latest | harr17:09
ubottuharr: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.17:09
naccharry_: --^ sorry, hit enter too quickly17:09
OerHeksharry_, upgrade to yakkety ? https://launchpad.net/qt17:10
crazycoderOerHeks, stress -c 4 -m 10  is under 60°17:10
crazycodersounds good17:10
harry_my platform is an Nvidia TX1 and cannot support yet yakkety :(17:11
helplessHello! How can I clear my Efi_17:11
helplessI\m finally about to fresh install linux but I have a few fedora entries and a few ubuntu entries in efi17:11
naccharry_: but it works on 14.04?17:12
OerHekscrazycoder,  up to 64 'C would be good http://ark.intel.com/products/88195/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_20-GHz17:12
ducassehelpless: use efibootmgr, see the man page17:12
helplessHoly moly thanks17:13
crazycoderOerHeks, is this the limit ?17:13
crazycoder(max limit) ?17:13
OerHekscrazycoder, yes17:13
jonjitsuhow would I force a reinstall of the kernel?17:14
laceylaneyI have a mac keyboard which does not have a #hashtag. How can I enable #hashtag symbol on certain key press ??17:14
crazycoder> 64° does it will shotdown ?17:14
crazycoderOerHeks, ^^17:14
OerHekscrazycoder, not sure what will happen, fan going crazy or cpu trottle back ...17:14
crazycoderOerHeks, ok17:15
OerHekscrazycoder, maybe the guys in ##hardware can answer that17:15
naccjonjitsu: a specifical kernel package?17:15
crazycoderOerHeks, ok17:15
crazycoderi read it does sqrt()17:15
crazycoderright ?17:15
helplessOke, I removed the useless entries with efibootmgr_ is there still trash left in my efi or am I good to go for a new install_17:16
ducassecrazycoder: it will throttle at >64°C17:16
crazycoderducasse, ah ok!17:16
ducassehelpless: that should be it17:16
jonjitsunacc 4.4.0-7217:17
jonjitsunacc, generic17:17
crazycoder-c 10 will give me 70° :D17:18
crazycoderok i will turn it off i do not like to burn my cpu17:18
crazycoder:D17:18
naccjonjitsu: `sudo apt install --reinstall linux-image-4.4.0-72-generic`17:18
naccjonjitsu: iirc17:18
jonjitsunacc, thanks17:19
naccjonjitsu: yw17:20
Deepakhi17:21
Deepakis anybody listening me ?17:22
tetehi17:22
OerHeksDeepak, impossible. we can read you though17:22
Deepakhelloooooo??17:22
Deepakanybody from india?17:23
nacc!ot | Deepak17:23
ubottuDeepak: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:23
Deepakokkk17:24
Deepakactually i am new on linux17:24
naccDeepak: great! if you have a support question, feel free to ask17:25
Deepakcan u plz tell me the best way to learn linux.17:26
PCatineanducasse, still there?17:26
ducassePCatinean: yep17:27
nacc!manual | Deepak: this is for ubuntu, you might want to ask in a different channel for general linux17:27
ubottuDeepak: this is for ubuntu, you might want to ask in a different channel for general linux: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/17:27
rhumbothi all, I just wanted to install open office. as described in the documentation: rpm -Uvih *rpm. I received the following error: Failed dependencies: rtld(GNU_HASH) is needed by openoffice-core04-4.1.2-9782.x86_6417:27
rhumbotHow can I see what dependencies are missing?17:28
naccrhumbot: um ... rpm?17:28
naccrhumbot: openoffice has been replaced by libreoffice in ubuntu17:28
naccrhumbot: and rpms are not the native packaging format for ubuntu17:29
tickhello17:29
ticki from indian17:29
rhumbotnacc libreoffice seems to have a bug with assigning macros; I wanted to test if it works in open office, which was recommended.17:29
Deepaki m also from india17:29
OerHeksDeepak, use it, read about it, and seek help in the irc channels when you counter issues. btw backbox is not ubuntu.17:29
nacctick: Deepak: please no chitchat in the support channel17:29
PCatineanducasse, the point is to extract the version number using the string, is that what you gave me there?17:30
Deepakokkk sorry :)17:30
rhumbotBut I get your point:) thank you. I downloaded the wrong version!17:30
naccrhumbot: ah, i don't know if it's available in a PPA or not, but installing the rpm is almost certainly incorrect :)17:30
rhumbotstupid me. thanks!17:30
naccrhumbot: np17:30
ducassePCatinean: if you echo the line like that through cut, you will get the version number17:31
PCatineanhmm, nice! thanks will look17:31
ducassePCatinean: it splits the line on the equal sign, returns the second field then removes the leading space17:33
rmx77hello all17:37
rmx77whats goin down17:37
jonjitsuwhat do I need to do to update grub with new entries? I ran update-grub which changed my /boot/grub/grub.cfg and I see the changes but when I reboot the menu is the old one. Is there another step?17:37
naccjonjitsu: update-grub is typically all that's needed17:38
naccjonjitsu: is your grub looking at the wrong disk?17:38
Bashing-omjonjitsu: More than 1 hard drive ? What is set in bios as the boot drive ?17:38
naccjonjitsu: and/or what/where did you change before running update-grub?17:38
jonjitsumy whole system crashed. I've lost the entire morning. There are no other harddrives. I don't even understand from where it is reading the old entries17:41
jonjitsuI guess uninstalling grub and reinstalling should work?17:41
OerHeksjonjitsu, did you install 2 linux versions on that one drive?17:42
jonjitsuOerHeks, no17:42
OerHeksoke, that could have explained a 2nd grub, forget about it.17:43
fanI'd hope to go full linux but all of my uni's programming classes are in c#17:45
fanhow's c# in linux17:45
naccfan: it's called mono in linux17:46
fanI am aware of that, is it lacking compared to visual studio etc.?17:46
naccfan: well, it's not visual studio ...17:47
naccfan: i have no idea, though, mono itself is just a runtime17:48
naccfan: visual studio is an IDE17:48
fanAhh, thought you were talking about monodevelop, the IDE.17:49
tgm4883fan: I don't know much about visual studio stuff, but there is this https://code.visualstudio.com/download17:54
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abijma_dpkg: fout bij verwerken van pakket mysql-server-5.7 (--configure):  subproces post-installation script geïnstalleerd gaf een foutwaarde 1 terug dpkg: vereistenproblemen verhinderen de configuratie van mysql-server:  mysql-server is afhankelijk van mysql-server-5.7; maar:   Pakket mysql-server-5.7 is nog niet geconfigureerd.  dpkg: fout bij verwerken van pakket mysql-server (--configure):  vereistenproblemen - blijft ongeconfigureer18:06
abijma_this is a message i get during apt-get upgrade18:06
abijma_due to this mysql is not starting, does anyone know how to fix this?18:06
naccabijma_: pleas use a pastebin and run `LC_ALL=C sudo apt-get upgrade` and pastebin the output18:06
abijma_how does pastebin work?18:07
nacc!pastebin | abijma_18:07
ubottuabijma_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:07
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w9qbjKeyboard problem.  From  time to time, maninly overnight, the keyboard hangs. No response from any of the keys.  This has happened on both old hardware as well as OS upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04.  unplug/replug the keyboard brings it back to life.  It also has happened in the middle of typing, but not so often.  Anyone know of a way to restart the usb/keyboard driver to cure this problem?18:11
ScungielliI'm running an old laptop.  Intel Core2 T5500 @ 1.66GHZ with 2gb RAM.   With this spec machine, should I run Lubuntu or Ubuntu?18:11
ppfScungielli: try it out and decide18:12
abijma_nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24362260/plain/18:12
ppfcan't open that without logging in18:13
OerHekshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24362260/18:13
naccabijma_: so it seems like the postinst failed18:14
naccabijma_: /var/log/dpkg.log might say more18:14
abijma_nacc: this is what dpkg.log says http://paste.ubuntu.com/24362302/plain/18:15
naccabijma_: so this is a fresh install of mysql-server?18:17
shadygoose"For new installs, a swap file will be used instead of a swap partition." How does this affect the 17.04 installation process?18:17
naccshadygoose: as it says? a fresh 17.04 install won't have a swap partition, but will use swap files18:18
shadygooseso only 2 parttitons should be created? root and /home?18:18
Random832do swap files work with laptop hibernation now? I thought there used to be an issue18:19
abijma_nacc: no this is not a fresh installation. I installed the vps with ubuntu few weeks ago. After that installed mysql and used it for i think 2 weeks. This week i did an apt-get upgrade and got this problem.18:19
naccshadygoose: depends on how your other partitions were defined, but yeah, that's certianly a possibility18:19
naccRandom832: i'm not sure, but given the change, i'd assume so?18:20
shadygoosenacc: I'm gonna do a fresh install after it gets out. would 2 partitions be enough? I can't find an install guide.18:20
naccshadygoose: i'm not sure what you mean by 'enough'?18:21
faugusztinabijma_: isn't this kind of issue fixed by running "dpkg-reconfigure -a" ?18:21
shadygoosenacc: usually it's 3 partitions. root, /home and swap. 17.04 doesn't need a swap partition so 2 partitions in total for the installation to go through?18:22
abijma_faugusztin: i think i tried that already. I just tried again but it says "a unknown option" ?!18:22
baizonabijma_: sudo apt install -f18:23
naccshadygoose: why are you defining partitions outside of the installer?18:23
abijma_baizon: no gives same error again18:23
faugusztinabijma_: in any case, if you have no data in database, then just uninstall the mysql-server and install it again18:24
dymHey all! I've tried installing 16.04.02 onto an APU2C4 Board via USB and these infos (https://trick77.com/installing-ubuntu-server-16-04-pc-engines-apu-apu2/). Unfortunately i keep running into "error copying files from cdrom". (different usb sticks tested)18:24
dymAnyone got an idea? i use ubetbootin on mac os to create the install media and tried several usb sticks18:24
naccabijma_: faugusztin: probably purge and you probably need to use dpkg to do it18:25
abijma_faugusztin: that's the problem, i do have data in there. and not a backup of the last 12 hours, so i would like to do my best to fix this and saving the data18:25
faugusztinabijma_: copy your /var/lib/mysql away to be sure, then do the uninstall/reinstall ?18:25
naccabijma_: can you pastebin more of the apt history log? /var/log/apt/history.log? trying to understand what it was trying to do that failed18:26
shadygoosenacc: not exactly sure what you meant by 'outside'. shouldn't the partitions be defined during the installation on the unallocated space if it's a dual boot?18:26
naccshadygoose: during install, you can specify how to partition a disk18:26
Bashing-om!md5sum | dym Did you verify ?18:26
ubottudym Did you verify ?: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM18:26
naccshadygoose: i'm not sure why you are thinking about it when not in the installer ...18:26
naccshadygoose: and the installer won't let you specify a partitioning scheme that isn't legal, iiuc18:26
naccshadygoose: are you asking, so you know what to expect when you use the installer? the question is confusing to me18:27
shadygoosenacc: i'm not in the installer cos it isn't out yet? but yeah, just to know beforehand18:27
naccshadygoose: right, but you don't define the partitions beforehand -- the installer does that part. So just let it do what it wants?18:28
abijma_nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24362384/plain/ this is the log from the moment i did the apt-get upgrade last thursday18:29
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dymBashing-om: now have. all good18:29
naccabijma_: ok, the entry just before that first one, was dpkg already returnig an error?18:30
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abijma_nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24362396/plain/ no, it didn't18:31
naccabijma_: ok18:31
CroephaSo, if I needed a specific file, form a specific version of a package, and apt cant find it, ie `apt-get download libc6-dbg=2.23-0ubuntu4`  is there an easy workaround?18:32
Bashing-omdym: Next up is to verity the copt . There is a boot menu in the installer. As soon as the bios screen clears depress a key -> language screen; escape key to accpet the default -> boot menu -> " check disk for defects" .18:33
dymBashing-om: on it18:34
ali1234how do i install x86 32-bit support inside a xenial docker container?18:35
dymBashing-om: "check the cdroms integrity"?18:36
shadygoosenacc: ok. I wasn't aware of that :) thanks captain.18:37
Bashing-omdym: What release ? .. Last I was aware the field was " check disk for defects " .18:37
dymBashing-om: 16.04.0218:37
dymBashing-om: although the test seems to fail18:37
dymBashing-om: https://pastebin.com/B2ikiQ9S18:38
dymI reinstalled a million times on several usb sticks18:38
Bashing-omdym: As I live and learn . ok .. well ya know now to change the tool to copy the .iso as an image and try again .18:38
dymalways error reading18:38
dymBashing-om: mhh, so maybe its the unetbootin tool causing the failure?18:39
ppfsometimes it does that18:39
dymppf: but 10 times in a row?18:40
ppfis the image all right?18:40
dymppf: just re-checked the md5 - seems all good18:40
dymppf: im gonna re-download and try once more18:40
ppfif the checksum is correct then so is the image18:41
ppfdo you have any other tool to create an image with18:41
Bashing-omdym: No dount that until the disk passes the test no way to do the install .18:41
ppfRufus?18:41
dymMacOS18:41
dymis there a macos version of ruifus?18:41
ppfwhy not dd18:42
ppfmac has that, does it not18:42
dymit does18:42
ppfthen use that18:42
dymppf: got a link?18:43
dymeven ubuntu suggests unetbootin :D https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-macos18:43
ppflink?18:43
Bashing-omdym: Maybe then try a Mac varient of ' sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync ' .18:44
ppfthe dd tool should be available per default?18:44
ppfotherwise use whatever package manager macos uses18:44
dymBashing-om: does it need to be pre-partitioned in some way?18:44
dymno no, it's available18:44
ppfno, the image contains a partition tablwe18:44
ppffdisk -l *.iso18:44
dymppf: and bootability?18:46
dymfdisk18:46
xenefixetcher.io !18:46
OerHeksxenefix +1  >> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/etcher-usb-image-burner-tool-linux-open-source18:46
dymoh18:48
dymchecking18:48
ppfwhy??18:48
ppfjust use fricken dd ...18:48
dymppf: on it :)18:48
dymjust looking at etcher meanwhile18:48
ppf`file *.iso` to check whether an iso is bootable18:48
abijma_nacc: no other ideas? so only way to fix is to purge the installation and re-install in your opinion?18:51
lrojashi all18:51
lrojasi am having an issue with ubuntu 16.1018:51
immulike?18:52
lrojaswhen i do apt-key list i dont get the keyid....18:52
lrojasi am seeing entries like this:18:52
lrojaspub   rsa1024 2010-05-04 [SC]18:52
lrojas      7B2C 3B08 89BF 5709 A105  D03A C251 8248 EEA1 488618:52
baizon!pastebin | lrojas18:52
ubottulrojas: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:52
lrojasuid           [ unknown] Launchpad VLC18:52
baizonlrojas: so remove it and reapply18:53
lrojasremove what?18:53
lrojasall the keys are like that18:53
lrojasall say unknown18:53
lrojasand instead of showing the keyid, they show the generic rsalengtj18:54
ppfabijma_: configure the package with dpkg, and enable debug output18:54
ppfpaste the result18:54
abijma_ppf: can you give me the exact command for this?18:55
balazsHi, I installed firefox:i386 with apt, and the binary is 32-bit, but when I type in "about:" I get "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:52.0"18:55
balazsSo am I using the 32-bit version ?18:55
ppfdpkg --configure -a --debug=2318:55
OerHeksbalazs, yes18:56
baizonbalazs: what is "about firefox" saying?18:56
OerHeksi686 = 32 bit18:56
balazsOerHeks: so x86_64 is 32-bit ?18:58
balazsbaizon: that above is the output of "about:" in the toolbar18:58
putin_eeeeeeeee18:58
putin_ewe18:58
putin_w18:58
OerHeksbalazs, no, i din't write that18:59
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OerHeksi686 .... *ON* ... x86_6418:59
DJonesputin_: Do you want to fix your keyboard before your ask you Ubuntu support question18:59
balazsOerHeks: thanks19:00
baizonbalazs: http://i.imgur.com/QvbTxxm.jpg <- so i got 64-bit19:00
t-run.?19:00
Random832baizon, that is an impressively bad quality file19:00
naccabijma_: sorry, stepped away19:01
naccabijma_: well, we need to see why the postinst is failing19:01
lrojasbaizon: searching for the issue i only found something in reference to debian, sugesting one needs to use this command to solve the issue19:01
abijma_ppf, nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24362537/plain/19:01
ppfi can't open that19:01
lrojassudo apt-get install debian-archive-keyring19:01
faugusztinRandom832: i guess he did it with quality=0 :)19:01
naccabijma_: can you pastebin the contents of /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.7.postinst ?19:02
naccabijma_: also, please don't append '/plain/'19:02
naccabijma_: as it ends up requireing auth (which i happen to have, but not everyone does)19:02
balazsbaizon: where do you access the "about" menu ? I must be missing something, because the only thing I can to it type "about:" where the URL-s usually go19:02
baizonbalazs: options menu -> questionmark -> about firefox19:03
lrojascan someone running 16.10 do sudo apt-key list to see if they get the key ID ?19:03
baizonlrojas: i can see mine19:03
lrojasi am wondering if this is a general issue19:04
lrojasbaizon: do you have any clue as to why i cannot see mine?19:04
baizonlrojas: are they also missing when u use "Software & Updates"?19:04
ducassebaizon: lrojas: on mine they are also 'unknown'19:05
lrojasam i missing something like that debian package but for ubuntu?19:05
lrojasno, they show there19:05
lrojasi can update fine19:05
baizonlrojas: well i cant tell then what the issue could be :(19:05
lrojasis just a pita because i have to look at the long number and the concatenate the last 8 digits to get the key id19:05
lrojaswhich is weird19:06
abijma_ppf, nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/2436253719:06
naccabijma_: thanks -- and the .postinst file?19:06
hyperbeamhello19:06
lrojassince when i look at samples on how to use apt-key del the keyid is different to the signature19:06
abijma_nacc: Use of uninitialized value $action in string eq at /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 27. postinst called with unknown argument ''19:07
abijma_is the result i get on that command19:07
hyperbeam(btw i'm not on ubuntu, i'm on elementary)19:07
hyperbeamanyways19:07
hyperbeami recently installed lua19:07
hyperbeamand it keeps getting an error19:07
DJones!elementary | hyperbeam19:08
ubottuhyperbeam: Elementary OS is an Ubuntu derivative which is supported in their IRC channel #elementary on irc.freenode.net - http://elementaryos.org/ for more information on this distribution.19:08
hyperbeamfor "make linux"19:08
naccabijma_: which command did you run? i didn't say to run a command19:08
naccabijma_: you need to pass arguments to the postinst (see the values to pass in the parentheses in your log)19:09
KacoDDCgood evening19:09
hyperbeami'm back19:09
hyperbeamhad to do something19:09
hyperbeam!elementary | hyperbeam19:10
ubottuhyperbeam, please see my private message19:10
DJoneshyperbeam: Elemetary isn't supprted here, you need to ask their own support network19:10
Random832DJones, i assume that's what he was trying to find out where that is.19:10
hyperbeamokay.19:10
hyperbeamsya19:10
hyperbeambtw19:10
hyperbeamyeah random is right19:10
Random832i.e. since he closed the client before19:11
abijma_nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24362658 here the content of /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.7.postinst19:17
ppfabijma_: he wasn't asking for the contents19:18
ppfrun bash -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.7.postinst configure 5.7.17-0ubuntu0.16.04.119:18
kernelmodderSo it took a few hours for my custom kernel to finish compiling, but it did. No errors from make this time, nor were there any errors scrolling past during compilation itself19:19
kernelmodderBut I'm not sure if my customized kernel will be a good fit for my toshiba laptop when I install it into the /boot folder19:19
abijma_ppf, nacc: then i misunderstood. you want to have the output of that bash command?19:19
ppfabijma_: yes, or at least the error19:20
abijma_ppf, nacc: here the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/2436267719:20
OerHekskernelmodder, if you have the 3 debs, maybe the mainline page is any help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds#Installing_upstream_kernels_.28manually.2919:22
kernelmodderOerHeks: And the testing linux distro is fedora19:22
kernelmodderOerHeks: The toshiba laptop is a secondary one19:23
OerHeksfedora.. then you should not seek help here19:23
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kernelmodderOerHeks: ##fedora perhaps?19:27
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lewixdoes :"*y copy to the clipboard? if yes, isn't :"*p to paste19:28
lewixfrom the clipboard19:28
naccabijma_: you should be able to change the postinst to be +x in the shebang and then rerun the `apt-get upgrade`, which should provide more output in dpkg.log (iirc)19:34
dymppf: Done copying the files from the iso, now i cannot mount it on os x to edit the serial stuff in19:36
dymppf: (https://trick77.com/installing-ubuntu-server-16-04-pc-engines-apu-apu2/)19:36
ppfdym: "copying the files from the iso"?19:38
ppfwhat did you do?19:38
abijma_nacc: sorry but shebang is new for me. what does it mean?19:38
dymppf: dd'ing the iso to the usb stick19:38
dymdd if= of= bs=4m19:38
ppfabijma_: make it /bin/bash -x19:39
dymppf: But now i need to access the files and edit some stuff in.19:40
ppfabijma_: can you run export DEBIAN_SCRIPT_DEBUG=1; dpkg --configure -a19:40
dymppf: https://pastebin.com/AKS5ZYdz - thats the state of the usb stick right now.19:40
dymppf: seems as if ext4 is mistaken for some MS partition type.19:41
ppfabijma_: what happens when you mount the partition19:41
ppfdym: ^19:42
abijma_ppf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24362788 this is the last part of the result of that export command19:42
dymppf: mount: exec /Library/Filesystems/ext4.fs/Contents/Resources/mount_ext4 for /mnt: No such file or directory19:43
dymi installed fuse since it seems macos cannot handle ext4 natively.19:44
dymwhat a major pain!19:44
dymim about to install a ubuntu vm, just to get this fixed...19:44
naccabijma_: it seems like mysql is refusing to start19:45
naccabijma_: you could try to run that command by hand and see if it outputs anything19:45
naccabijma_: by default, the postinst is discarding thatoutput19:46
ppfdrop the --init-file argument, though19:46
ppfand mkdir that temp directory first, obviously19:46
naccppf: true :)19:46
naccor you can edit the postinst and change run_init_sql to not trash theoutput to /dev/null19:46
abijma_nacc: i already tried service mysql start do you mean this iwth starting  by hand or some other way19:47
ppfabijma_: the command from your paste19:47
naccabijma_: what ppf said19:47
naccabijma_: prbably simplest is to edit run_init_sql function in the postinst and run the command ppf had you do again19:47
abijma_nacc, ppf: i appreciate your help, but this is getting me a little to complicated. can you give me the exact commands i have to run?19:50
ppfabijma_: the one from your paste!19:50
ppfbut remove the --init-file option and run mkdir /tmp/tmp.9klXSk6RGU19:51
abijma_ppf, nacc: run command mysqld --user=mysql --socket=/tmp/tmp.9klXSk6RGU/mysqld.sock --pid-file=/tmp/tmp.9klXSk6RGU/mysqld.pid but it seems to do nothing.  mkdir gives message that dir already exists19:52
naccabijma_: is mysqld still running? (check `ps aux` or the return code from the comamnd)19:53
balazsDoes anyone know if you can still run Java in Firefox ? I'm trying to do so to run a Junos VPN client, but all docs I find refer to an older version of FF.19:56
ppfmaybe it'll be easier to change the postinst script19:56
balazsSupposedly newer ones do not like the java plugin19:56
abijma_nacc: no it doesn't seem to run right now19:56
naccabijma_: ok, can you do this -- as root (use sudo) edit the postinst19:57
OerHeksbalazs, you would need firefox 52 esr for java/flash19:57
naccabijma_: change line 19 to not have the '> /dev/null 2>&1' at the end19:57
OerHeksfrom the mozilla website19:57
ppfabijma_: try and modify the script. in line 19, erase anything after the >19:57
naccabijma_: then re-run the export and command that ppf gave earlier19:57
OerHekshttps://support.mozilla.org/t5/Firefox/plugins-and-version-52/td-p/137249419:58
abijma_ok, removed everything from '>' on line 19 and re-run the export command20:01
balazsOerHeks: thanks, going thru it now...20:01
Katronixhi all, I just installed Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS, and having an issue with no Wifi. https://pastebin.com/73rrYmAp Can someone help?20:01
OerHeksKatronix, this page may be the answer, mokutil > http://askubuntu.com/questions/762254/why-do-i-get-required-key-not-available-when-install-3rd-party-kernel-modules20:03
Katronixor is it easier to just downgrade to an earlier version?20:03
KatronixOerHeks, okay thanks20:03
dymppf: im on an ubuntu live system - why cant i mount the usb stick writeable?20:04
KatronixOerHeks, well I'll try that :)20:04
dym"Read-only file system" - cant remount rw, cant hdparm -r0 /dev/xxx, nothing works20:04
naccabijma_: ok, output (pastebin)?20:04
ppfdym: why not?20:05
dymppf: i'd like to find out :D20:05
ppfi mean, what's the erro20:05
ppfr20:05
dymppf: i do get20:06
dymppf: "settings readonly to 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off)"20:06
dymbut still cant write the partition (also not after remounting)20:06
ppfmount -o remount,rw /dev/whatever20:06
ppfand paste the output of mount20:07
dymppf: "mount: cannot remount /dev/sdd2 read-write, is write-protected"20:07
dymppf: Ubuntu 16.04.2 Desktop Livesystem20:07
abijma_ppf, nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/2436289320:07
ppfdym: blockdev --setrw /dev/sda20:08
ppfsorry, sdd20:08
naccabijma_: sigh, not much help there -- if you run the mysqld command by hand again20:08
naccabijma_: and then 'echo $?' immediately after it returns20:08
dymppf: done, also remount after, same error as above20:08
naccabijma_: what value does it print?20:08
ppfmight be because it's a VM20:09
ppfdym: ^20:09
dymppf: christ this is annoying.20:10
naccabijma_: is there anyting in /var/log/mysql/error.log ?20:11
ppfabijma_: and this time, leave the --init-file argument20:11
abijma_nacc, ppf: echo $? gives 0 (zero) as result. only error in error.log is  Fatal error: mysql.user table is damaged. Please run mysql_upgrade.20:15
naccabijma_: hrm20:17
naccabijma_: can you file a bug on this?20:17
naccabijma_: we can keep trying to fix it, but ideally the postinst would provide a bit better logging as to what is failing20:17
dirtysouth_hi so i am completely green to linux and i just build a computer and have installed ubuntu on it. I am trying to get the wifi dongle to work however i can not figure out how to even begin aproaching that.20:17
abijma_nacc: where can i file this as a bug?20:17
nacc!bug | abijma_20:18
ubottuabijma_: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.20:18
dirtysouth_If there is anyone that could help with that, that'd be awesome.20:19
abijma_nacc: thanks for your help. for now i guess only option is to re install mysql from scratch20:20
bray90820Can anyone recommend a tablet to run ubuntu20:24
dirtysouth_hi so i am completely green to linux and i just build a computer and have installed ubuntu on it. I am trying to get the wifi dongle to work however i can not figure out how to even begin aproaching that?20:24
bray90820dirtysouth_: What wifi dongle is it20:26
naccabijma_: not necessarily20:26
dirtysouth_asus ac1900 USB-AC6820:26
naccabijma_: as that last output said (error.log), try running mysql_upgrade manually, i think your mysql tables are bit buggered20:26
bray90820dirtysouth_: Sorry I can't go any further with you20:27
dirtysouth_bray90820 : is there a reason why?20:28
abijma_running mysql_upgrade is only possible when mysql is running and that's currently the problem. i cannot get it start running...20:28
bray90820dirtysouth_: I am not to familiar with USB wifi dongles there is a tool called ndiswrapper that will allow you to install the windows wifi driver in linux i havent used it in years so idk if it's being maintained anymore20:30
bray90820I am better with internal cards20:30
ducassedirtysouth_: this might help - http://askubuntu.com/questions/879187/asus-usb-ac68-0b051817-drivers#87925820:30
dirtysouth_bray90820: i appreciate it anyways20:30
dirtysouth_ducasse:  i will check that out real fast thanks20:31
bray90820dirtysouth_: Do you know how to use the terminal20:31
dirtysouth_i do not no20:31
bray90820dirtysouth_: Do you know how to use the command prompt in windows?20:32
ducassedirtysouth_: just follow the instructions and you should be fine20:32
dirtysouth_i don't know in windows the computer I'm talking to you on is a mac20:32
dirtysouth_I'm looking into them for sure thank you20:33
bray90820dirtysouth_: If you can open the terminel I might be able to help you get it setup20:33
dirtysouth_ya for sure lets do that and i can learn about it better that way too20:33
dirtysouth_bray90820:  i appreciate you taking the time20:34
bray90820dirtysouth_: Just tell me when you have terminal open and are ready20:34
dirtysouth_bray90820:  so that i am on the same page as you i need the terminal on the machine that i built open20:34
dirtysouth_bray90820:  or my mac?20:35
bumblefuzzyou're in an ubuntu forum20:35
bray90820dirtysouth_: Whatever computer you want to get the wifi working on20:35
dirtysouth_bray90820: i am opening it now20:36
bray90820Ok20:36
dirtysouth_bray90820:  ok its open and its ubuntu20:36
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bray90820Type in "uname -a" without that quotes and tell me what the output says20:37
dirtysouth_bray90820: you want the entire chain?20:38
bray90820dirtysouth_: That would be perfered20:38
bray90820preferred20:39
bumblefuzzonce you get it online, you can output to pastebin instead of typing20:40
dirtysouth_Linux matthew-system-product-name 4.8.0-46-generic #49~16.04.1- Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 31 14:51:03 UTC 2017 x86_64 GNU/Linux20:40
bray90820bumblefuzz: Were trying to get the internet working so it won't be necessary to do so once internet gets working :)20:41
dirtysouth_bray90820: that will be fantastic so i can copy and paste20:41
bumblefuzzbray90820: lol true20:42
bray90820dirtysouth_: Do you have any way to transfer files to that computer?20:43
bray90820Like a flash drive or something20:43
just_jonI bought about $1000 of music from the ubuntu one music store, I backed everything up on a flash drive when support was cut, my flash drive has failed now and I don't have a backup.  Does anyone know of a way to reach out to ubuntu to get this music from 7 digital, or another source20:43
dirtysouth_bray90820:  i can download them to  a flashdrive and see if it owrks20:44
bray90820dirtysouth_: Perfect20:44
dirtysouth_bray90820:  does it have to be a specific format20:44
dirtysouth_?20:44
bray90820If it connects to your Mac you shoul be fine20:45
dirtysouth_Good to go20:45
InventorTechieQuick question: I am setting up another Ubuntu Gnome install on a new ThinkPad... I am not getting the option for "Install Ubuntu Gnome Alongside Windows 10." I have resized the disk already. 128gb each for both windows and linux basically. Ext4 for the Ubuntu partition.20:47
bray90820dirtysouth_: Download this file and put it on your flash drive then get back to me once that's done20:47
bray90820https://www.dropbox.com/s/ndz1d1atrl3baex/rtl8814AU-driver-4.3.21.zip?dl=020:48
dirtysouth_bray90820:  kk20:48
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* bray90820 will be right back need to use the toilet 20:49
anddamand thanks for sharing20:50
dirtysouth_bray90820:  good to go and i got it downloaded and the zip file is on the flash drive20:50
dirtysouth_bray90820: hey my brother just told me he tried something on here with that file you gave me so hopefully it doesn't completely wrench your plan20:52
Matthshey20:52
dirtysouth_he tried following a guide on a forum and doesn't know which one it was20:53
bray90820dirtysouth_: I think we're still good20:53
dirtysouth_bray90820: just thought id make you aware since i didn't know lol20:54
bray90820Thanks for the info20:54
bray90820So put the flash drive in your ubuntu computer and drag the file you downloaded to your desktop20:54
dirtysouth_kk20:55
bray90820I also have a text file for you with stuff to copy and paste into the terminal to make things easier20:56
dirtysouth_alright its there and how do i copy and paste it to the terminal on that comp?20:56
dirtysouth_oh nvm i think i get it20:57
dirtysouth_i download then copy paste20:57
just_jonwhat do I do with a single sign on number for support?20:57
bray90820dirtysouth_: You would copy and paste Just like you would in a text file but I don't actually think the text file is necessary at this point20:58
dirtysouth_bray90820:  thats awesome i was just confused beacause the whole 2 computer thing20:58
dirtysouth_no worries anymore20:58
bray90820Alright20:58
bray90820But if it's needed you will download a text file and transfer it to your ubuntu machine20:59
dirtysouth_bray90820:  I'm good with that i take it that its drop box too?20:59
bray90820Yes sir but it's not needed right now21:00
dirtysouth_bray90820:  kk21:00
bray90820Ok so just to make things easier do "cp ~" then hit space then drag and drop the file on your desktop into the terminal then hit enter21:02
bray90820Without the quotes of course21:02
dirtysouth_kk one sec21:02
daxother way around21:02
daxit's cp source destination21:02
bray90820dirtysouth_: other way around21:03
bray90820That wa smy bad21:03
dax`cp -t ~ whatever` would work i guess21:03
dirtysouth_i got a window asking to extract21:03
bray90820dirtysouth_: Hit cancel on that21:04
dirtysouth_kk so im typing something after the drag and dorp21:04
dirtysouth_drop21:04
bray90820dirtysouth_: Lets start again first type "cp" then hut space then drag the file into the terminal then click on the terminal then hit space again and then type "~" without the quotes21:05
dirtysouth_ok one sec21:05
bray90820Let me know when your done with that21:06
dirtysouth_ sorry the os is running really slow for some reason21:07
dirtysouth_one sec21:07
bray90820Take your time21:08
dirtysouth_i did that and it just went to the next line21:08
dirtysouth_bray90820:  i did that i keep for getting to tag u21:09
bray90820Perfect21:09
bray90820dirtysouth_: It did exactly what it should have done21:09
bray90820now do "cd ~" without the quotes21:09
dirtysouth_bray90820:  oh perfect i didn't know if that was bad or good21:09
dirtysouth_hit enter or anything after the cd and squiggly21:10
dirtysouth_?21:10
bray90820yes hit enter after21:10
dirtysouth_kk its on the next line21:10
bray90820then type "pwd" without the qutes and hit enter21:10
bray90820What does it say21:11
dirtysouth_bray90820:  /hom/matthew21:11
dirtysouth_home21:11
bray90820Perfect21:12
bray90820Now type "ls" wothout the quotes and hit enter and tell me if it lists the file from the desktop21:13
dirtysouth_i understand a very small amount f this from my brother but still this is like mandarin21:13
dirtysouth_is that a L or 121:13
dirtysouth_l21:13
bumblefuzzlowercase21:13
dirtysouth_nvm21:13
dirtysouth_yes it lists it21:13
bumblefuzztry cp ~/Desktop/* ~/21:13
dirtysouth_it went o next line21:14
bray90820dirtysouth_: You don't need to21:14
bray90820bumblefuzz: Why did you have him do that?21:15
dirtysouth_oh crap sorry bout that21:15
bray90820dirtysouth_: "ls" again and tell me if the file is still there21:15
dirtysouth_bray90820: yes it is sorry i thought that was u thats my bad21:16
bumblefuzzbray90820: oh sorry, I thought you were having him copy it from the desktop to the home folder21:16
bray90820dirtysouth_: It's ok that didn't do any harm21:16
bumblefuzzthen cd to home21:16
bray90820bumblefuzz: Can you let me take it from here21:16
bumblefuzzmy bad, I'll stay out of it21:16
Scungielliis ubuntu ONLY 64 bit?21:17
ScungielliI've got an older 32 bit Laptop21:17
daxScungielli: not currently21:17
daxthere's been discussion in that direction, but nothing decided21:17
Scungielliwhere do I get the 32 bit iso21:17
k1l_Scungielli: no, but if your cpu is 64bit, install a 64bit os :)21:17
genii!download21:18
ubottuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Yakkety, and help keeping the servers' load low!21:18
dirtysouth_bray90820:  is there a way to lock your text in on chat21:18
dirtysouth_so i can tell through all the clutter21:18
bray90820dirtysouth_: I will ping you every time does that help21:18
dirtysouth_ya its red21:19
bray90820dirtysouth_: Ok21:19
dirtysouth_bray90820:  that way i don't follow other people things my bad21:19
bray90820dirtysouth_: Perfect21:19
bray90820dirtysouth_: So now without quotes "mv rtl8814AU-driver-4.3.21.zip rtl8814AU" then hit enter21:21
InventorTechieNot sure if anyone caught this earlier - Quick question: I am setting up another Ubuntu Gnome install on a new ThinkPad... I am not getting the option for "Install Ubuntu Gnome Alongside Windows 10." I have resized the disk already. 128gb each for both windows and linux basically. Ext4 for the Ubuntu partition.21:21
dirtysouth_is that gonna look different in terminal as i type it or no21:23
dirtysouth_bray90820:  cut it is21:23
dirtysouth_cus21:23
bray90820dirtysouth_: Do you mean is the file gonna be renamed?21:23
bray90820Scungielli: Because the answer to that is yes21:23
dirtysouth_no like as i type it starts putting in forward slashes21:23
bray90820Uh?21:24
bray90820Hang on21:24
bray90820dirtysouth_: Hang on21:24
bray90820dirtysouth_: Does it drop to the next line with the slash?21:25
dirtysouth_nah its good i just deleted what i was typing21:25
dirtysouth_and its working fine21:25
dirtysouth_just making sure i typed it right now21:25
bray90820dirtysouth_: Ok so tell me whenever your done with that21:26
dirtysouth_bray90820:  so i gto a message mv: cannot stat 'rt18814AU-driver-4.3.21.zip' : No such file or directory21:27
bray90820wha's the output of pwd?21:27
dirtysouth_bray90820: /home/matthew21:28
bray90820dirtysouth_: Type in "mv rt1" and hit tab then leave it and tell me if it completed the file name for you?21:29
dirtysouth_ya it filled it in21:29
bray90820ok now on that same line hit space and type in  "rtl8814AU" without the quotes and hit enter21:30
bray90820dirtysouth_:21:30
dirtysouth_bray90820:  kk21:30
bray90820dirtysouth_: Tell me if that worked21:30
dirtysouth_bray90820:  it went to the next line21:31
bray90820Ok now type ls and tell me if the file is now called rtl8814AU21:31
bray90820dirtysouth_:21:31
dirtysouth_its shows multiples  just one is the file and one is the zip of the fike21:32
dirtysouth_file21:32
bray90820Hum21:32
bray90820dirtysouth_: try "cd rtl8814AU" without the quotes21:32
bray90820dirtysouth_: then hit enter21:32
bray90820dirtysouth_: then type "ls" without the quotes hit enter and tell me the name of one file in there doesn't matter which one21:34
dirtysouth_bray90820it replied with ~/rt18814AU$21:34
dirtysouth_oh21:34
dirtysouth_sorry21:34
dirtysouth_one sec for the ls21:34
dirtysouth_bray90820:  i am not sure what it responded with this time after ls21:35
bray90820What do you mean21:35
dirtysouth_um i don't know which thing u want21:35
dirtysouth_some words are blue some white21:35
bray90820dirtysouth_: Ether one is fine21:35
bray90820dirtysouth_: White are files blue are folders21:36
dirtysouth_after ls it listed everything ill type it all out so u can see21:36
bray90820dirtysouth_: I only need one line21:37
bray90820Doesn't matter which line21:37
dirtysouth_bray90820: clean   dams.conf    if cfg-wlan0     Kconfig  Makefile   platform   wlan0dhcp21:37
dirtysouth_thats the top line21:37
dirtysouth_bray90820:  i take it that line works?21:38
bray90820dirtysouth_: Uh not 100% sure yet21:39
dirtysouth_oh sorry21:39
dirtysouth_lol21:39
bray90820It apperes everything is good so far21:40
bray90820dirtysouth_:21:40
bray90820dirtysouth_: Now that we have done the setup we can now work on installing the driver21:40
dirtysouth_bray90820:  kk21:40
bray90820dirtysouth_: Type in "sudo make && sudo make install" then hit enter a lot of things will happen or well a lot of things should happen21:41
dirtysouth_with the and symbols too21:41
dirtysouth_?21:41
bray90820Yes21:42
dirtysouth_password first21:42
dirtysouth_i take it21:42
dirtysouth_bray90820:  a lot of stuff is happening yess21:43
bray90820dirtysouth_: Yes you needed to enter the password sorry Iforgot about that21:43
bray90820dirtysouth_: Just ping me whenever the hell that stuff is done21:43
dirtysouth_bray90820:  its all good i figured it was admin password   i entered it all it did a ton of functions and is at a new line21:44
bray90820dirtysouth_: So it's done now?21:44
dirtysouth_bray90820:  yes indeed sir21:44
bray90820Ok so now run this without the quotes and hit enter 'sudo modprobe -v 8814au" and it will ask for your password again21:45
bray90820dirtysouth_:21:45
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bray90820Tell me if you get a line someone similar to this "insmod /lib/modules/4.4.0-59-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/8814au.ko"21:45
stevehopethe terminal session will remeber his sudo ceditials21:45
dirtysouth_is that double space between v and the 821:45
dirtysouth_?21:45
bray90820*Something similar21:45
bray90820dirtysouth_: Only 1 space21:46
bray90820It's always only 1 space21:46
dirtysouth_no password asked for21:46
dirtysouth_but it gave me what you said21:46
dirtysouth_and i can access wifi networks soemhow21:46
dirtysouth_hah21:46
stevehope** the terminal session will remeber his sudo creditials21:46
dirtysouth_bray90820:  it works21:47
bray90820dirtysouth_: So you have wifi now?21:47
dirtysouth_bray90820:  i do ya that frwaking awesome21:47
bray90820One more thing to check21:47
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dirtysouth_kk21:47
dirtysouth_bray90820:  i am standing by21:48
bray90820dirtysouth_: Try "sudo rfkill list" without the quotes and hit enter21:49
bray90820dirtysouth_: Does that give you a blank line?21:49
dirtysouth_no it said soft and hard blocked no21:50
bray90820dirtysouth_: So none of the lines are a yes?21:50
dirtysouth_bray90820:  however i keep getting connected then disconnected21:50
dirtysouth_and none of the lines are a yes21:50
bray90820dirtysouth_: Well were good there but lets see about the disconnecting21:51
dirtysouth_bray90820:  yes please haha21:51
bray90820dirtysouth_: Can you restart the computer?21:52
dirtysouth_bray90820:  yes one sec21:52
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dirtysouth_bray90820:  it reset and when it came back on the signal is solid so  i think its working21:55
bray90820dirtysouth_: Your welcome21:56
dirtysouth_bray90820:  oh so you think its good   i appreciate it man21:56
bray90820Yes I do think it's good21:56
dfinnwhat is the correct way to tell iptables to load additional modules in Ubuntu 14.04 and 16.04?  on RH based systems there's a file named /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config where you can add a list of modules but I don't see a clean way to do it on my ubuntu systems21:56
dirtysouth_bray90820:  i really do appreciate it man21:56
bray90820It's no problem21:57
bray90820Now if I was there it would have been done much quicker21:57
bray90820I would have just typed 3 lines rebooted and been done21:57
dirtysouth_bray90820:  i believe it haha21:57
dirtysouth_bray90820:  i have no idea what I'm jumping around too21:57
bray90820I have a really fancy ubuntu home server setup with a dvr and 4tb of storage21:58
dirtysouth_bray90820: what was the problem  with it ?21:58
bray90820dirtysouth_: What do you mean?21:58
bray90820Do you mean why didn't the internet work from the start?21:59
dirtysouth_bray90820:  ya like what wasn't working21:59
bray90820Basically the driver wasn't installed21:59
dirtysouth_bray90820:  oh well do you know how to get this computer to recognize more then one graphics card?22:00
dirtysouth_i can't get it to pick up more past number 222:00
bray90820dirtysouth_: Depends22:00
bray90820Is it a desktop?22:01
dirtysouth_yes it is22:01
bray90820Are they nvida or ati video cards?22:01
dirtysouth_bray90820:  it has 4 and soon to be 6 1070 gtx cards22:01
dirtysouth_by si22:01
dirtysouth_nvidia22:01
bray90820You wouldn't happen to have the model numbers of the cards would you?22:02
dirtysouth_bray90820:  ya one sec22:02
dirtysouth_bray90820:  geforce GTX 107022:03
dirtysouth_thats all it says on box22:03
bray90820Are all the cards the same?22:03
dirtysouth_yes22:03
bray90820Ok22:03
dirtysouth_my board is an asus dog hero VIII22:04
dirtysouth_ROG22:04
bumblefuzzdog?22:04
dirtysouth_haha22:04
dirtysouth_ya bad typung22:04
dirtysouth_typing22:04
dirtysouth_its hard with a broken finger bumblfuzz22:04
bray90820dirtysouth_: You wouldn't happen to know if there connected together through SLI would you22:04
dirtysouth_bray90820:  no they are not22:05
dirtysouth_bray90820:  they are running to pice slot through riser cards22:05
dirtysouth_bray90820:  and powered through a modular power suppy22:05
dirtysouth_supply22:05
scooterdhello22:07
bray90820dirtysouth_: nvida is a bitch when it comes to linux here is a 12 second video from the creator of linux and his views on it22:08
bray90820https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xyv032JvLw22:08
dirtysouth_bray90820:  not to hit you with too many questions but my wifi keeps discconecitnj and asking for credentials every so often22:08
scooterdquestiion is it hard to over write my existing system ubuntu 16.0422:08
Ben64no22:08
bumblefuzzlmao that video22:08
bray90820bumblefuzz: Yes that video22:09
NokajiHi, I'm unable to get my printer running, it used to work fine (Canon pixma MX925), still works fine in windows dual boot. In brief, I'm now getting "Failed to start cups.service: Unit cups.service is masked." - I don't even know what 'masked' means. I've tried reinstalling cups, I get multiple messages about dependencies etc AND i'M WORRIED i MAY BE BREAKING IT FASTER THAN i FIX IT22:09
dirtysouth_bray90820:  haha22:09
dirtysouth_bray90820:  just watched it so is there no way to get it to work ?22:09
Nokajioops caps22:09
bumblefuzzthey are getting a little better https://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html22:09
bumblefuzzgranted that's still closed source22:10
bray90820dirtysouth_: I don't know if your talking about the internet or the video cards but in eather case I think I can get it to work22:10
dirtysouth_bray90820:  ok haha i don't want to annoy you but could we get them to work ?22:10
dirtysouth_ or rather would u be willing?22:10
scooterdben 64 was that for me ??22:10
Ben64scooterd: yeah, you can overwrite anything with relative ease22:11
bray90820bumblefuzz: Maybe if linux ditched X and went with mirror nvida might actually actually be  somewhat usable22:11
bray90820dirtysouth_: Are you talking about the video cards or the internet?22:11
scooterdben 64 good the reason my kodi keeps crashing  and i think its cause the guy who did my reload didn't wipe system22:12
dirtysouth_bray90820: both haha sorry i want the internet to stay working and i want to get the cards working too22:12
bray90820dirtysouth_: Lets start with the internet22:12
dirtysouth_bray90820:  kk22:12
bray90820dirtysouth_: How long does the internet stay working?22:13
scooterdbashing-om helped me couple weeks ago was good then crashed agian22:13
dirtysouth_bray90820:  so basically it stays connected for a little bit then disconnects its self its sporadic sometimes 10 seconds sometimes 10 minutes22:13
bumblefuzzjust mir? what about wayland?22:14
dirtysouth_bray90820:  it keeps trying to authenticate22:14
bray90820dirtysouth_: Can you send me a text file?22:14
dirtysouth_bray90820:  yes if i know how to do that haha22:14
bumblefuzzah yes, 'sudo apt install pastebinit'22:14
scooterdben64 is there a how to in forums ??22:15
bray90820bumblefuzz: The internet doesn't work so no he can't do that22:15
Ben64scooterd: best to explain the actual issue22:15
bumblefuzzstill? sorry22:15
bray90820bumblefuzz: It's half working22:15
dirtysouth_  ya its keeps disconnecting22:15
scooterdben64 my kodi keeps crashing other wise system works good]22:15
bray90820dirtysouth_: Right click on the desktop the click new document then click empty document22:16
dirtysouth_bray90820:  kk done22:16
scooterdben64 thinking system wasn,t over wrote when the guy installed 16.0422:16
hyperbeami'm here because i'm wondering if i should triple boot22:16
bray90820dirtysouth_: Ok now open the terminal22:16
Ben64scooterd: you're still not explaining anything22:17
hyperbeamwhatever22:17
dirtysouth_bray90820:  kk I'm there22:17
scooterdben64 basically my kodi keeeps crashing and im thinking its the way the guy installed 16.04 should it not be wiped then install ??22:18
bray90820type in "lspci -vnn | grep -i net" without the quotes and hit enter22:18
bray90820dirtysouth_:22:18
dirtysouth_got it stand by please22:18
Nokajitrying something ... rebooting...22:18
dirtysouth_bray90820:  so I'm being real i can't find the vertical bar22:19
dirtysouth_i feel dumb22:19
bray90820dirtysouth_: Move your mouse to the top of the screen22:20
dirtysouth_ bray90820  i did that22:20
bray90820Did that work?22:20
dirtysouth_still no bar22:20
krobzaurHello all, got a question about configuring Xserver/X11 on a headless server. I have an ubuntu 16.04 server with no graphical software installed atm. I want to set it up to forward graphical apps using X11 forwarding via ssh or xpra. What packages do I need to install on the server itself?22:21
scooterdben64 i've deleted kodi ,purged it and try reinstall  works good for 2 weeks22:21
hyperbeamis there a hexchat support server?22:21
krobzaurI think all I need is xauth, but I just wanted to double check22:21
bray90820dirtysouth_: Do you menu menu bar when you say vertical bar?22:21
hyperbeamIs there a HexChat support server22:21
bray90820*Do you mean menu bar22:21
hyperbeam?????22:21
dirtysouth_no i mean the command you typed that vertical bar you used to separate it22:21
bray90820dirtysouth_: Oh that was my bad22:22
dirtysouth_bray90820: so i don't need that?22:22
bray90820dirtysouth_: You do need it and It's above the backslash22:22
dirtysouth_HAHAHAA22:23
dirtysouth_im stupid22:23
bray90820dirtysouth_: In linux it's called a pipe22:23
dirtysouth_bray90820:  noted i will remember that22:23
dirtysouth_bray90820:  i got the command entered22:24
bray90820Hit enter22:24
dirtysouth_bray90820:  it pulled up a bunch of stuff about the asus ethernet wifi dongle22:24
bray90820dirtysouth_: Can you copy and paste that in the text file and send it to me?22:25
afoxexit22:26
dirtysouth_bray90820:  drop box ?22:28
bray90820dirtysouth_: That will work22:28
dirtysouth_bray90820:  do you have an email to send it too22:33
dirtysouth_bray90820:  its being stupid22:33
bray90820You can't paste it here?22:33
dirtysouth_www.dropbox.com/home?preview=bray+files22:35
dirtysouth_bray90820: that should be it22:35
dirtysouth_bray90820:  first time using dropbox22:35
bray90820Assuming your doing this from your mac Right click on the file in dropbox and click copy dropbox link then paste here22:36
dirtysouth_oh no lol i made the file and stored it in drop box in linux22:37
dirtysouth_ill get the link on the mac if thats better22:37
bray90820That22:37
bray90820dirtysouth_: That's probably easier22:37
dirtysouth_bray90820:  its just not letting me copy the link I'm in the file section on drop box and right clicking the file itself22:40
bray90820better idea22:40
dirtysouth_bray90820:  kk sorry dude22:40
bray90820use pastebin.com to paste it22:40
scooterdhello need some help please22:40
dirtysouth_bray90820:  kk22:42
dirtysouth_bray90820:  i made it brayclovis22:43
bray90820dirtysouth_: Can you paste the entire link?22:43
dirtysouth_bray90820:  pastern.com/frysQ6MT22:45
dirtysouth_pastebin22:45
dirtysouth_sorry22:45
dirtysouth_ill have this down in a minute22:45
bray90820It's ok22:45
bray90820Haha22:45
dirtysouth_btw the graphs are running through the cpu and one of the cards is getting pretty darn warm22:45
dirtysouth_and the fans aren't kicking on22:45
dirtysouth_should i worry about tit22:45
dirtysouth_it22:45
bray90820dirtysouth_: Not sure without more investigation22:46
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dirtysouth_hmm im gonna not worry for now22:47
kostasHello I have a question, which distro do you think will work best for my AMD drivers?22:47
dirtysouth_the cpu has a cooler22:47
dirtysouth_bray90820:  on a side note the internet has stayed connected this entire time22:47
dirtysouth_bray90820:  i am not sure if thats just luck or what22:48
bray90820I will be able to tell once I get the paste22:48
dirtysouth_bray90820:  dude my bad22:49
dirtysouth_bray90820:  i thought i pasted it Wth22:49
dirtysouth_bray90820:  pastern.com/frysQ6MT22:49
bray90820Oh you pasted me something but it didn't work I thought you were gonan repaste it that was my bad22:49
dirtysouth_ya i am22:49
dirtysouth_sorry22:49
kostasIs anyone able to help?22:50
dirtysouth_pastebin.com/frysQ6MT22:50
dirtysouth_thats it22:50
dirtysouth_i was being autocorrected22:50
bray90820dirtysouth_: Just to note that says pastern you needed to send me pastebin but I got it working22:50
KatronixHey all, a while ago OerHeks helped me with a WiFi issue. I can turn it on now, however its really slow, currently using a friend's wifi usb dongle and its streaming a YouTube video much better than the built in Wifi is. Is there a way to see how I have it configured wrong for the built in wifi?22:50
Souoi22:51
dirtysouth_bray90820:  ya sorry about that dude it keeps auto correcting me22:51
bray90820It's ok22:51
bray90820Ok that paste was weird22:51
Sirilo12322:52
SouOi bruno22:52
dirtysouth_that was the line right after the command22:52
skinuxWhat command will give me all hardware specificaitons of my machine?22:52
SouParada Interessante né?22:52
bray90820dirtysouth_: can you close and reopen the terminal then type in "dmesg" without the quotes and paste me whatever it says it will be a lot of stuff22:52
dirtysouth_bray90820:  on it22:53
SouCarvalho onde eu to22:53
SiriloI am sirilo22:53
dirtysouth_Dear lord22:53
dirtysouth_just a sec more22:53
bray90820I told you it would be a lot22:53
KatronixOerHeks, any chance you can help me some more with the new slowness issue?22:53
dirtysouth_is there a way to select all ?22:55
raymondilloskinux: Try sudo lshw in a term.22:56
skinuxHow come lspci gives only generic hardware names?22:56
dirtysouth_bray90820:  or no22:56
dirtysouth_?22:56
l33n/etc/network/interfaces is no longer considered, it seems what is in dhcpcd.conf is what's recognized22:57
bray90820dirtysouth_: in the menu bar under edit22:57
l33nanywone know why22:57
dirtysouth_bray90820:  pastebin.com/kbAsj4Cu22:59
dirtysouth_there u go22:59
Jacob843Howdy. I am trying to install Ubuntu on a R730XD with software raid on the two SSDs in the back flex bays. My partition layout is at ( https://i.imgur.com/vvk3s3S.png ). After installation, I just get a black screen, no GRUB or anything. I booted into rescue with the installer and GRUB is definitely installed. Before this, I even tried having GRUB on a single disk (1GB allocated), then setting up RAID on the remaining space with22:59
Jacob843LVM, but even that was giving me a black screen. Is there anything I should explicitly be trying on the 730xd to get Ubuntu to load up?22:59
bray90820dirtysouth_: Got it looking it over now23:00
dirtysouth_bray90820:  good to go man23:00
Bashing-om!nomodeset | Jacob843 Maybe a graphic's issue ?23:02
ubottuJacob843 Maybe a graphic's issue ?: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter23:02
bray90820dirtysouth_: Do you need to use wifi or could you use ethernet23:02
awesomess3Jacob843: were you able to use any other OSes with the current RAID hardware configuration? I enabled RAID on my computer one time by changing jumpers on the motherboard and moving some cables and tried to install Debian 3.0 a long time ago, but I had problems so I just had them at two different IDEs (that is, no RAID :c, WAAAAAAAAAH, to this day one of the worst moments of my life).23:02
dirtysouth_bray90820:  i might be able to figure out a way to rewire the house to make ethernet work but wireless would be so much easier23:03
Jacob843awesomess3, aye, we were able to load FreeNAS 9 and 10 just fine, but that proved to be too unstable for our workload, so we want straight up Ubuntu.23:03
dirtysouth_bray90820:  I'm building like 6 to 7 more machines like this23:03
Jacob843awesomess3, however, FreeNAS ZFS'd a boot system and there was no manually partitioning taking place.23:03
bray90820dirtysouth_: Alright we'll contunie with wifi23:03
bray90820dirtysouth_: Close and reopen the terminal then type in "dmesg | grep -i usb" without the quotes then hit enter and paste that to me23:05
bray90820Assuming your wifi card is usb23:05
Jacob843Bashing-om, will try. Not sure if this counts, but iDrac enterprise console has the same issue23:06
skinuxWould someone be willing to take a look at my hardware specs and a list of apps I typically use, and tell me if it's normal for my machine to be sluggish?23:07
Sirilodghdfgh23:07
Siriloghdfgh23:07
Sirilofhfh23:07
Sirilodfgh23:07
Sirilodfh23:07
Sirilodf23:07
dirtysouth_bray90820:  pastebin.com/69fqh0i423:07
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YankDownUnderskinux: What appears to be the issue?23:08
dirtysouth_bray90820:  i wish i could understand how your finding what your looking for in all of that23:08
bray90820You'll pick up a lot over time23:08
dirtysouth_bray90820:  i hope so i wanna be able to do that this is like being a computer doctor23:09
bray90820dirtysouth_: What brand is the wifi card?23:10
dirtysouth_Asus23:10
HerbalistUbuntu philosophy   ---   https://aeon.co/ideas/descartes-was-wrong-a-person-is-a-person-through-other-persons23:11
skinuxMy issue is that my system tends to get sluggish and I don't really think it should be.23:11
bray90820dirtysouth_: Honestly it seems to be setup correctly23:11
YankDownUnderskinux: What desktop are you using and what graphics card do you have?23:12
skinuxMATE23:12
skinuxLet me try to find out23:12
tgm4883also, define "sluggish"23:12
YankDownUnderskinux: Ok...so that's the desktop...23:12
skinuxIntel Corporation 3rd Gen Core Processor Graphics Controler23:13
YankDownUnder"Sluggish" = not lightning fast, light speed! Warp 9.9! :)23:13
dirtysouth_bray90820:  maybe it was like a temporary glitch when i installed ubuntu the other day i couldnt get it to boot up or show up at all all it would do is go to black screen i kept trying and then got and error message screen then it came on and installed23:13
awesomess3Jacob843: what? how did the hard drives get partitioned in the first place if there was no manual partitioning in the past?23:13
dirtysouth_so i am hoping that my install wasn't bad23:13
YankDownUnderskinux: Onboard graphics controller...yersh?23:13
* tgm4883 throws a rubber bear at YankDownUnder23:13
dirtysouth_bray90820:  i tried doing it the way i have always done it23:13
skinuxIt can take a couple of seconds to switch between programs, sometimes it can take several.23:13
YankDownUndertgm4883: :)23:13
Jacob843awesomess3, freenas handled everything itself. From my understanding, it put everything in a zfs1 setup then installed freebsd to that.23:14
skinuxYankDownUnder: This is a laptop, so I assume so.23:14
YankDownUnderskinux: Is it safe to assume you've installed all the proper drivers for the system?23:14
skinuxUmm, that I honestly don't know about.23:14
Jacob843awesomess3, that image I linked is the current partition scheme that I manually did. Before I installed Ubuntu I wiped all drives and started fresh.23:14
dirtysouth_bray90820:  anyways if you think its good ill leave it that way. i do seriously appreciate the effort to look at it23:14
YankDownUnderskinux: Right oh - one thing at a time - step by step, yersh? Yersh. Right...how much RAM do you have? 8gb?23:14
skinuxI don't remember if I've specifically installed any drivers or if I'm using only what Ubuntu comes with.23:14
tgm4883skinux: 3rd gen. What's the output of 'free -m' and 'lscpu' use pastebin23:14
tgm4883!pastebin | skinux23:14
ubottuskinux: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:14
skinuxI have 4GB RAM and 4GB SWAP23:15
YankDownUnderskinux: Right oh - can you please do as tgm4883 suggested, please?23:15
dirtysouth_bray90820:  if u are able to look at the card issue tonight I'm game but i can understand if nah23:16
skinuxhttps://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/76049438703a43ab9048f466c0be76f123:17
tgm4883skinux: well there's your problem23:17
skinux??23:17
tgm4883skinux: you're swapping quite a bit23:17
awesomess3Jacob843: what's wrong with ubuntu's default erase-partitioning during install?23:17
tgm4883and swap is slow23:17
skinuxHow do I fix that?23:18
skinuxIs there still a swappiness setting?23:18
awesomess3tgm4883: skinux: inxi -F #show CPU, RAM, partition size, & live/connected hard/usb drive sizes.23:18
Jacob843awesomess3, I need software raid on the two SSD's in the back; this is a for an enterprise customer and needs redundancy. Normally I'd do HW raid, but since we thought we were going to use FreeNAS, we only got a crappy S130 raid controller from Dell.23:18
VystyCan anyone help me install Japan input on 16.04 using Moritz?23:19
tgm4883awesomess3: that's not super helpful at the moment...23:19
awesomess3Jacob843: software RAID? That sounds..................that sounds retarded. That defeats the purpose of RAID because it's the hardware that makes it efficient.23:20
VystyExcuse me, not Moritz. Mozc.23:20
Jacob843awesomess3, yes it is not ideal, but we didn't expect FreeNAS to fall out. This is what I have currently23:20
YankDownUnderskinux: In conjunction with what tgm4883 is advising - if you walked in to my office with this issue, the first thing I'd be suggesting would be to bump up the RAM to 8gb...my next suggest would be to use XFce or some other desktop that wasn't so graphics intensive (turn off compsitiing and all that jazz)23:20
awesomess3tgm4883: oh really? Well IMO it's better than 'free -m' and 'lscpu'23:20
tgm4883awesomess3: where in this output does it show me SWAP usage?23:21
awesomess3tgm4883: it's in black text so it blends into the background of your terminal23:22
skinuxhttps://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/76049438703a43ab9048f466c0be76f123:22
bray90820dirtysouth_: I dont have time right now but i will be back in like 6 hours if you'll be around23:22
tgm4883skinux: "ps aux --sort=-%mem | awk 'NR<=10{print $0}'"23:22
bray90820dirtysouth_: Can you paste me one more thing23:23
dirtysouth_bray90820:  is there a way i might be able to like keep in contact aside from here i will have other technical issues that my brother cant solve and i am trying to get these rigs up and running for my family23:23
dirtysouth_ya23:23
bray90820"sudo modprobe -v 8814au" without the quotes23:23
skinuxWhat is all that? Tons of numbers in the output.23:23
bray90820dirtysouth_: I would prefer to keep it on here23:23
tgm4883awesomess3: ah, it's under partitions. I'm guessing that the -F is full, so there's no more information it could give me23:23
tgm4883skinux: the command I gave you should show your top 10 ram users23:24
dirtysouth_kk i am new to this and don't know how to find people on here23:24
dirtysouth_bray90820:  im typing it now23:24
bray90820Thanks23:24
skinuxhttps://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/76049438703a43ab9048f466c0be76f123:24
dirtysouth_is the au caps or no23:25
tgm4883skinux: do you know what /usr/share/code/code is?23:25
bray90820dirtysouth_: the au is not in caps23:26
tgm4883oh it's vscode23:26
dirtysouth_bray90820:  it came back with blank line23:26
tgm4883skinux: I'd see if you can't bump your system up to 8GB of RAM23:27
skinuxThat's not going to happen any  time soon.23:27
YankDownUndertgm4883: Zackly roight.23:27
tgm4883skinux: vscode looks to be using quite a bit of memory, and all your chrome tabs aren't helping either23:27
bray90820dirtysouth_: Try it one more time23:27
bray90820"sudo modprobe -v 8814au"23:27
skinuxSo, bottom line, my problem is that I'm using up all my memory?23:28
YankDownUnderskinux: Have you considered using a different desktop manager that eats up the least amount of system (overall) resource? Like XFce or WindowMaker or something lighter?23:28
tgm4883skinux: yea, that's a problem23:28
skinuxI thought MATE WAS a desktop that used less memory23:28
YankDownUnderskinux: Mate/Gnome/Cinnamon - not to mention Unity - eat up heaps of resource...23:28
dirtysouth_bray90820:  nothing man same just wen to next line23:28
bray90820I'll look into that23:28
YankDownUnderskinux: No. Not really. Mate uses heaps of resource...heaps23:28
skinuxHmm.23:29
* YankDownUnder hugs WindowMaker23:29
awesomess3skinux: tgm4883: this is fun! https://gist.github.com/psycho23/ee0b397e2a6f23f508ee00cb9282812b23:29
dirtysouth_bray90820: you want me to hold off and wait for you till tomorrow or another time so someone else doesn't jack up my rig and make it harder to set up the graphics cards23:30
dirtysouth_bray90820:  i won't be able to be on tonight in 6 hours but tomorrow i can e=be23:30
bray90820That wold be good23:30
dirtysouth_bray90820:  ill hold up till tomorrow for the cards then   or another time you choose. is that command i typed supposed to spit something back23:31
tgm4883YankDownUnder: skinux mate itself looks pretty light  https://flexion.org/posts/2014-03-memory-consumption-of-linux-desktop-environments/23:32
tgm4883not the lightest but still good23:32
skinuxOKay23:32
YankDownUndertgm4883: I'm still huggin my WindowMaker...sometimes E17...sometimes XFce...but mostly WindowMaker (I'm very old fashioned and a skinflint)23:33
tgm4883granted we're talking not much, I'd be more concerned with the massive amounts of memory that chrome is sucking up23:33
dirtysouth_skinflint ?23:33
YankDownUnderdirtysouth_: Economical.23:33
bray90820dirtysouth_: One more thing close and open terminal then type "ifconfig" without the quotes and paste me that23:33
dirtysouth_YankDownUnder:  thanks for the new word ill be using that at work23:33
YankDownUnderdirtysouth_: It's an ancient word, but hey, that's cool stuff... :)23:34
YankDownUnderdirtysouth_: Skinflint -> Scrooge, miser, pennypincher...and etc.23:34
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dirtysouth_bray90820:  pastebin.com/Pt5h4Au523:36
dirtysouth_YankDownUnder:  i have heard the other but that one is new23:37
dirtysouth_YankDownUnder:  do you know what a clowder is ?23:37
dirtysouth_YankDownUnder:  it isn't relevant to money or computer btw23:37
bray90820dirtysouth_: close and open terminal again and paste the output of this "sudo lshw -C network"23:39
bray90820Without the quotes23:39
dirtysouth_bray90820:  kk23:39
dirtysouth_bray90820:  pastebin.com/aaGrpd4b23:41
bray90820dirtysouth_: ugh23:44
bray90820There is something I'm looking for that I can't find :P23:44
dirtysouth_bray90820:  haha i feel like i broke it23:44
bray90820Do you see the wifi icon on the right side of the menu bar?23:45
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dirtysouth_like from the home screen23:45
dirtysouth_yes23:45
dirtysouth_i see the fan icon23:45
bray90820Rick click then click edit connection and tell me what it says under name23:46
dirtysouth_it lists ethernet wired connection one and under that wifi and my home network23:47
bray90820Does it say wlan0?23:48
dirtysouth_bray90820:  no23:48
bray90820For crying out loud haha23:49
dirtysouth_bray90820:  is that a bad thing23:49
bray90820I think I will need to continue this later23:49
dirtysouth_right on man23:49
dirtysouth_dont stress it23:49
bray90820Not a bad thing just means I need to find the right command23:49
bray90820See you later dude23:49
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dirtysouth_u on tomorrow23:49
* bray90820 gone phishing 23:49
bray90820'll be here tomorrow23:49
dirtysouth_kk23:49
dirtysouth_ill se u on23:49
Lapotorhello in older versions of ubuntu <16.04 you can easily run initctl cmd but now you can't so my question is if you know an similar cmd  for initctl reload-configuration without changing to upstart?23:50
tgm4883Lapotor: without changing to upstart? It's systemd now23:53
Lapotoryeah but i don't found the similar cmd for systemd tgm488323:53
tgm4883Lapotor: does 'systemctl' do what you need?23:54
tgm4883Lapotor: assuming that you're looking for changes in the unit files, should be "systemctl daemon-reload" I believe23:55
Lapotortgm4883 they all do that but i didn't found the cmd from systemd to do the same as 'initctl reload-configuration'23:55
tgm4883Lapotor: what does "initctl reload-configuration" do23:55
Lapotortgm4883 it force the init daemon to reload its configuration files.23:58
tgm4883Lapotor: that's what the command I just gave you does23:58
tgm4883Lapotor: 'systemctl daemon-reload'23:58
Lapotortgm4883: great thanks23:58
Lapotorwill test it on my installer23:58
tgm4883Lapotor: on your installer?23:59
Keamycheers23:59
tgm4883Lapotor: why not use a .deb?23:59
Lapotortgm will do later on23:59

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