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ronnoc | I can live test tonight and maybe in VB as well if I install a compatable kernel | 00:16 |
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ronnoc | clivejo: Valorie probably mentioned to you, but others are having the wine issue as well: https://plus.google.com/+ValorieZimmerman/posts/8CEsk8YTY9S | 00:20 |
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IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> mm still trying to figure how to use dual monitors best in Plasma | 00:36 |
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* wxl loves dual monitors in Plasma | 00:38 | |
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IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> the issue is having dual notifications lol | 00:39 |
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wxl | oh yeah | 00:40 |
wxl | i never bothered with all that | 00:40 |
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lordievader | Good morning. | 06:19 |
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mparillo | !testers | 09:05 |
ubottu | Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping yofel, soee, Tm_T, BluesKaj, Quintasan, lordievader, mamarley, vip, mparillo, wxl, DarinMiller, tsimonq2 for more information. | 09:05 |
mparillo | Looks as if we got new images: | 09:05 |
mparillo | [05:02] [Notice] -queuebot to #ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Final] has been updated (20170412) | 09:05 |
mparillo | [05:02] [Notice] -queuebot to #ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Final] has been updated (20170412) | 09:05 |
Tm_T | has upgrade been tested? | 09:06 |
mparillo | Ideally test results both here (I think valorie likes them here) and on the tracker (I know wxl likes them at: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/375/builds/145752/testcases) | 09:06 |
Tm_T | I have my work laptop tomorrow upgrading to 17.04 | 09:07 |
mparillo | I think that is great. I know an upgrade is not a mandatory test case, but it is one that plenty of users ask us about. | 09:11 |
* Mamarok is upgrading to Zesty now | 09:35 | |
Mamarok | hm, doesn't seem to work, but I guess I am just on the wrong server | 09:37 |
Mamarok | and I guess there is no way in Discover to change to the main server... | 09:38 |
acheronUK | kdesudo software-properties-kde | 09:39 |
acheronUK | should work no matter what | 09:39 |
Mamarok | indeed, sad oversight, really, why can't I have more configure options in discover? | 09:39 |
acheronUK | Mamarok: should be something there? but discover devs do seem to like to make it very 'not obvious' | 09:40 |
Mamarok | yep, that works, but that option is missing in discover source configuration | 09:41 |
Mamarok | and it is a really important configuration option IMHO | 09:41 |
acheronUK | Mamarok: I'll have a look. I've not used the 5.7.5 version of discover for ages | 09:42 |
Mamarok | I only do when it prompts me for updates, but usually I do it on the command line | 09:42 |
acheronUK | I do more or less everything on the command line. upgrades, upgrades, servers, repos | 09:44 |
Mamarok | that is actually something to consider in the installation: choosing a different server for updates, due to me selecting the Berlin time zone it invariably sends me to German mirrors, that is a bad idea | 09:44 |
Mamarok | so do I, but since there is a "configure sources" option in discover I looked there, but there really is no option at all | 09:44 |
acheronUK | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YakketyUpgrades/Kubuntu | 09:47 |
acheronUK | it was there under advanced for Xenial -> Yakkety upgrades :/ | 09:48 |
Mamarok | I tried the upgrade from the command line, but the mirror just doesn't have it | 09:53 |
Mamarok | yeah, all those options are totally gone | 09:55 |
acheronUK | technically we are still the dev release. did you use that option to upgrade? | 09:59 |
Mamarok | I used do-release-upgrade -d on the cli | 10:03 |
acheronUK | kdesudo "do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE -d" | 10:04 |
acheronUK | or just run 'kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade' | 10:04 |
Mamarok | anyway, it's downloading now | 10:05 |
acheronUK | yep. just 'do-release-upgrade -d' seems to find it here | 10:06 |
acheronUK | Mamarok: anyway, thanks for pointing that out. must amend the upgrade notes on the wiki to take account of this. | 10:07 |
acheronUK | in the discover in zesty they added back a way to get to software-properties | 10:07 |
Mamarok | also, I was surprise yesterday to see that okular was not isntalled by default on Yakkety, how come? | 10:08 |
Mamarok | surprised* | 10:09 |
Mamarok | ah, good, I was about to file a bug | 10:09 |
acheronUK | Mamarok: the yakkety version of okular was still KDE4, and having it as default/on the iso broke our iso builds | 10:10 |
Mamarok | ah | 10:10 |
acheronUK | it is back for zesty :) | 10:10 |
BluesKaj | 'Morning all | 10:24 |
mparillo | 'Morning, BluesKaj. New builds are up: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/375/builds I expect they are final unless somebody finds a show-stopper. Yesterday's builds removed the development branch from lsb_release -a output. | 10:57 |
BluesKaj | Hi mparillo, I'm kind of busy today, so no time for testing. I hope someone else does . | 11:00 |
mparillo | I am burning now. I should certainly get to live image today. Yesterday, I got live, entire disk, and entire disk with LVM encryption. All reasonably successful. | 11:01 |
Mamarok | OK, I am in, it strangely didn't recognize my USB mouse dongle, had to take it out and in again | 11:09 |
acheronUK | Mamarok: any issues other than that? was that an upgrade from a default Yakkety? or one with backports for plasma 5.8 enabled? | 11:16 |
acheronUK | ok. off for a while. will be back late afternoon or early evening | 11:18 |
Mamarok | I had the backports enabled on Yakkety | 11:25 |
Mamarok | so far no issues I can see but that strange refusal to see my mouse on startup | 11:26 |
Mamarok | and the Spanish named logo | 11:26 |
BluesKaj | tsdgeos: fix your vonnection | 11:55 |
BluesKaj | connection | 11:55 |
tsdgeos | and then his connection broke ^_^ | 11:58 |
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wxl | hey testers? :( | 17:10 |
acheronUK | wxl: I will do some later | 17:14 |
wxl | thx acheronUK | 17:15 |
wxl | valorie: are you working on release notes or what's the deal? | 17:15 |
clivejo | anyone look into the KCI warnings? | 18:29 |
acheronUK | clivejo: what warnings? sorry. I've not been looking at KCI | 18:40 |
acheronUK | wxl: have made a start on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZestyUpgrades/Kubuntu | 19:11 |
acheronUK | valorie: ^^^ | 19:12 |
mparillo | acheronUK: When I used to do those kinds of things on the wiki for Alphas and Betas, JR, never posted to the wiki. Only a link. For example, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu | 19:25 |
acheronUK | with the access we have now, it's far far easier to edit the wiki content than do full release notes on the main kubuntu website | 19:29 |
acheronUK | though if someone with website access wants to duplicate it there, then I guess that is fine | 19:29 |
mparillo | Understood. I like most wikis | 19:31 |
IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> We should have someone else with website access | 19:31 |
acheronUK | clive? | 19:37 |
ahoneybun | well I was thinking mparillo | 19:43 |
acheronUK | I don't mind | 19:50 |
acheronUK | probably devs should be able to edit also if need be, but not something I would do regularly. | 19:52 |
ahoneybun | acheronUK: do you wish to have power? | 20:11 |
acheronUK | ahoneybun: lol. I'm not sure. I have enough to do as it is. but then, as said, suppose it would be handy. | 20:13 |
IrcsomeBot1 | <tsimonq2> acheronUK: I will pay you 20 USD if you correct the Kubuntu Team Page last names to only have the first letter capitalized. :P | 20:24 |
acheronUK | no | 20:24 |
IrcsomeBot1 | <tsimonq2> Awwwwwwwwwww | 20:26 |
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valorie | oh thank you acheronUK | 20:45 |
valorie | I've not got my groove back for some reason! | 20:45 |
valorie | I prefer to keep them on the wiki like all/most of the other flavors do | 20:46 |
valorie | it makes them easier to find for the casual browser | 20:46 |
ahoneybun | but the wiki is hard to edit | 20:46 |
IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> (Photo, 1280x328) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/EwGbdAgK/file_2358.jpg | 20:47 |
IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> we have this | 20:47 |
valorie | nice | 20:52 |
valorie | ahoneybun: true, it is hard to edit | 20:52 |
valorie | but since each iteration is usually just a bit of change from the previous one, doable | 20:52 |
IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0KwVhUHP/file_2363.svg | 20:53 |
valorie | and for me, editing on the website is a nightmare | 20:54 |
acheronUK | ahoneybun: is that the actual image to use? the kubuntu logo has some jpeg compression artefacts showing | 20:54 |
ahoneybun | well I just got the svg so that should be fine | 20:54 |
acheronUK | oh. scgs :) | 20:54 |
acheronUK | *svgs | 20:54 |
valorie | I like the most blurred | 20:55 |
acheronUK | Didn't think to blur the background on the one I tried the other day. duh.... | 20:56 |
IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> not sure where the thing goes tho | 20:56 |
IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> got it | 20:57 |
acheronUK | yep. should either show that wallpaper background clearly, or blurred enough that it's just hinting at it. | 20:57 |
acheronUK | the slightly blurred version inbetween is a bit eye-strain inducing | 20:58 |
IrcsomeBot1 | <ahoneybun> and the svg is tooo large to upload | 20:59 |
acheronUK | though it depends what it looks like in context on the site itself. | 20:59 |
ahoneybun | oops | 21:06 |
acheronUK | file size limit? | 21:09 |
ahoneybun | well yea I just used the png | 21:09 |
acheronUK | which here looks blurry when the site enlarges it | 21:10 |
ahoneybun | you see it? | 21:10 |
ahoneybun | which is why I wanted an svg | 21:10 |
acheronUK | what is the limit? | 21:11 |
ahoneybun | 2mb | 21:11 |
acheronUK | so would be too big? http://i.imgur.com/vXDL73E.png | 21:36 |
acheronUK | old wobbly gears on that as well :/ | 21:40 |
ahoneybun | I'm not sure about the size anymore tbh | 21:40 |
* acheronUK shrugs | 21:46 | |
* clivejo shrugs | 21:49 | |
* acheronUK shrugs harder | 21:50 | |
* clivejo shrugs and kicks | 21:50 | |
* clivejo polishes his tractor with Mr Sheen | 21:51 | |
acheronUK | lol | 21:52 |
acheronUK | looks like PIM won't being going in backports for release day. no testing done | 21:53 |
valorie | acheronUK: the release notes looks good, however the images at the bottom are broken for me | 21:53 |
acheronUK | valorie: ah. they were attachments and did not get copied. will sort that. | 21:54 |
valorie | acheronUK: perhaps we can send something special asking for PIM testing? | 21:55 |
valorie | I imagine sending to the user list along with the devel list would be good | 21:55 |
valorie | if you write up something I'll edit and send.... | 21:55 |
valorie | probably too late for zero day, but could be soon after if we get throrough testing, right? | 21:56 |
acheronUK | valorie: yes, if we get it in backports-landing for zesty or similar, people can test. | 21:56 |
valorie | uh | 21:57 |
acheronUK | uh? | 21:58 |
valorie | I hesitate to ask people on a user list to add backports landing | 21:58 |
valorie | is there a specific PPA? | 21:58 |
valorie | special for just that, I mean | 21:59 |
valorie | so that people don't get hit with untested stuff if they forget to remove | 21:59 |
acheronUK | staging-kdeapplications is where they are living just now. could maybe copy somewhere else though | 21:59 |
valorie | staging is another I don't like to recommend publicly beyond this channel | 21:59 |
acheronUK | yofel's opion would probably help here | 22:00 |
acheronUK | *opinion | 22:00 |
valorie | some damn "news" site gets it, and boom, we're in trouble | 22:00 |
acheronUK | no, I would not suggest staging | 22:00 |
* valorie goes to pour more coffee | 22:00 | |
acheronUK | valorie: I made https://phabricator.kde.org/T5840 the other day | 22:04 |
acheronUK | don't think anyone has looked at it though | 22:04 |
clivejo | acheronUK: for me, just do it | 22:10 |
clivejo | Ive been using PIM all along | 22:10 |
clivejo | and had no issues until recently | 22:10 |
valorie | just backport, you mean? | 22:11 |
clivejo | yes, put 16.12 PIM into backports | 22:12 |
clivejo | for zesty | 22:12 |
valorie | oh, for zesty | 22:12 |
acheronUK | even then, there would be a question of whether to go through landing 1st. | 22:12 |
valorie | unfortunately we have few testers right now | 22:13 |
valorie | and the current crowd in #kubuntu isn't very promising | 22:13 |
acheronUK | shoving it straight in backports seems wrong to me, and probably breaks some 'policy' somewhere | 22:14 |
valorie | well, testing is the key | 22:14 |
valorie | and if Clive has been testing long-term, that seems pretty solid to me? | 22:14 |
valorie | but basically it is up to you three | 22:15 |
acheronUK | clive has been using KCI builds for months | 22:15 |
valorie | i've been little help with testing since my laptop went on the fritz | 22:16 |
acheronUK | I'll give kmail a go tomorrow | 22:16 |
acheronUK | *if* I can undo the things I've done to kill akonadi. lol | 22:17 |
acheronUK | if not, in a VM | 22:17 |
acheronUK | as said, I would like Phil's opinion regardless | 22:17 |
acheronUK | weird https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376303 | 22:21 |
ubottu | KDE bug 376303 in general "Does not build due to too long file names" [Grave,Unconfirmed] | 22:21 |
acheronUK | kajongg again ^^ | 22:22 |
valorie | does it build in the KDE git CI? | 22:26 |
tsdgeos_ | no, missing deps | 22:28 |
clivejo | acheronUK: is there something worrying you about PIM? | 22:29 |
acheronUK | clivejo: just lack of testing of our packages. probably being over cautious | 22:34 |
valorie | they are rolling out ISOs marked final now | 22:40 |
valorie | I can't recall when a release cycle whizzed by so quickly | 22:41 |
clivejo | has it? | 22:45 |
* acheronUK wants to start on 'Amorous Alligator' | 22:47 | |
clivejo | indeed | 22:48 |
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valorie | clivejo: in some ways it seems like mere weeks ago, until I start remembering all that has happened over the past 6 months | 23:13 |
valorie | then it seems like forever | 23:13 |
clivejo | a lot has happened! | 23:15 |
valorie | amen to that | 23:20 |
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valorie | wxl: how is kubuntu looking, release-wise? | 23:46 |
wxl | i haven't really looked, but we don't have all our tests taken care of :( | 23:47 |
valorie | :( | 23:47 |
wxl | s/looked/personally tested/ | 23:47 |
wxl | 2 in i386, 1 in amd64, not counting the dreaded OEM setup, but i'm talking to cyphermox about that, i think :) | 23:48 |
ahoneybun | not sure how to do autoresize | 23:48 |
ahoneybun | we more then 1 in amd | 23:48 |
wxl | you follow the testcase | 23:48 |
wxl | ideally auto-resize would be one that you would do after one of the other tests is done | 23:48 |
ahoneybun | which is written badly | 23:48 |
tsimonq2 | I'm taking care of OEM so I can debug with cyphermox if needed. | 23:48 |
wxl | you can rewrite it | 23:48 |
wxl | patches are welcome :) | 23:48 |
valorie | just tweeted about it again, if that can hlep | 23:49 |
valorie | help | 23:49 |
wxl | i gotta do taxes tonight so hopefully i can work on it then | 23:50 |
wxl | at least tsimonq2 has the oem set up taken care of | 23:50 |
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valorie | new computer I will get vms all set up at the beginning | 23:51 |
tsimonq2 | valorie: If it helps, because it *also* applies to Lubuntu (kinda), I retweeted it as @LubuntuOfficial | 23:51 |
valorie | cool | 23:51 |
valorie | ok, time for dinner | 23:53 |
tsimonq2 | valorie: Have fun :) | 23:53 |
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