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[00:16] <ronnoc> I can live test tonight and maybe in VB as well if I install a compatable kernel
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[00:20] <ronnoc> clivejo: Valorie probably mentioned to you, but others are having the wine issue as well: https://plus.google.com/+ValorieZimmerman/posts/8CEsk8YTY9S
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[00:36] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> mm still trying to figure how to use dual monitors best in Plasma
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[00:38]  * wxl loves dual monitors in Plasma
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[00:39] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> the issue is having dual notifications lol
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[00:40] <wxl> oh yeah
[00:40] <wxl> i never bothered with all that
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[06:19] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[09:05] <mparillo> !testers
[09:05] <ubottu> Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping yofel, soee, Tm_T, BluesKaj, Quintasan, lordievader, mamarley, vip, mparillo, wxl, DarinMiller, tsimonq2 for more information.
[09:05] <mparillo> Looks as if we got new images:
[09:05] <mparillo> [05:02] [Notice] -queuebot to #ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Final] has been updated (20170412)
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[09:06] <Tm_T> has upgrade been tested?
[09:06] <mparillo> Ideally test results both here (I think valorie likes them here) and on the tracker (I know wxl likes them at: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/375/builds/145752/testcases)
[09:07] <Tm_T> I have my work laptop tomorrow upgrading to 17.04
[09:11] <mparillo> I think that is great.  I know an upgrade is not a mandatory test case, but it is one that plenty of users ask us about.
[09:35]  * Mamarok is upgrading to Zesty now
[09:37] <Mamarok> hm, doesn't seem to work, but I guess I am just on the wrong server
[09:38] <Mamarok> and I guess there is no way in Discover to change to the main server...
[09:39] <acheronUK> kdesudo software-properties-kde
[09:39] <acheronUK> should work no matter what
[09:39] <Mamarok> indeed, sad oversight, really, why can't I have more configure options in discover?
[09:40] <acheronUK> Mamarok: should be something there? but discover devs do seem to like to make it very 'not obvious'
[09:41] <Mamarok> yep, that works, but that option is missing in discover source configuration
[09:41] <Mamarok> and it is a really important configuration option IMHO
[09:42] <acheronUK> Mamarok: I'll have a look. I've not used the 5.7.5 version of discover for ages
[09:42] <Mamarok> I only do when it prompts me for updates, but usually I do it on the command line
[09:44] <acheronUK> I do more or less everything on the command line. upgrades, upgrades, servers, repos
[09:44] <Mamarok> that is actually something to consider in the installation: choosing a different server for updates, due to me selecting the Berlin time zone it invariably sends me to German mirrors, that is a bad idea
[09:44] <Mamarok> so do I, but since there is a "configure sources" option in discover I looked there, but there really is no option at all
[09:47] <acheronUK> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YakketyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[09:48] <acheronUK> it was there under advanced for Xenial -> Yakkety upgrades :/
[09:53] <Mamarok> I tried the upgrade from the command line, but the mirror just doesn't have it
[09:55] <Mamarok> yeah, all those options are totally gone
[09:59] <acheronUK> technically we are still the dev release. did you use that option to upgrade?
[10:03] <Mamarok> I used do-release-upgrade -d on the cli
[10:04] <acheronUK> kdesudo "do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE -d"
[10:04] <acheronUK> or just run 'kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade'
[10:05] <Mamarok> anyway, it's downloading now
[10:06] <acheronUK> yep. just 'do-release-upgrade -d' seems to find it here
[10:07] <acheronUK> Mamarok: anyway, thanks for pointing that out. must amend the upgrade notes on the wiki to take account of this.
[10:07] <acheronUK> in the discover in zesty they added back a way to get to software-properties
[10:08] <Mamarok> also, I was surprise yesterday to see that okular was not isntalled by default on Yakkety, how come?
[10:09] <Mamarok> surprised*
[10:09] <Mamarok> ah, good, I was about to file a bug
[10:10] <acheronUK> Mamarok: the yakkety version of okular was still KDE4, and having it as default/on the iso broke our iso builds 
[10:10] <Mamarok> ah
[10:10] <acheronUK> it is back for zesty :)
[10:24] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[10:57] <mparillo> 'Morning, BluesKaj. New builds are up: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/375/builds I expect they are final unless somebody finds a show-stopper. Yesterday's builds removed the development branch from lsb_release -a output.
[11:00] <BluesKaj> Hi mparillo, I'm kind of busy today, so  no time for testing. I hope someone else does .
[11:01] <mparillo> I am burning now. I should certainly get to live image today. Yesterday, I got live, entire disk, and entire disk with LVM encryption. All reasonably successful.
[11:09] <Mamarok> OK, I am in, it strangely didn't recognize my USB mouse dongle, had to take it out and in again
[11:16] <acheronUK> Mamarok: any issues other than that? was that an upgrade from a default Yakkety? or one with backports for plasma 5.8 enabled?
[11:18] <acheronUK> ok. off for a while. will be back late afternoon or early evening
[11:25] <Mamarok> I had the backports enabled on Yakkety
[11:26] <Mamarok> so far no issues I can see but that strange refusal to see my mouse on startup
[11:26] <Mamarok> and the Spanish named logo
[11:55] <BluesKaj> tsdgeos:  fix your vonnection
[11:55] <BluesKaj> connection
[11:58] <tsdgeos> and then his connection broke ^_^
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[17:10] <wxl> hey testers? :(
[17:14] <acheronUK> wxl: I will do some later
[17:15] <wxl> thx acheronUK 
[17:15] <wxl> valorie: are you working on release notes or what's the deal?
[18:29] <clivejo> anyone look into the KCI warnings?
[18:40] <acheronUK> clivejo: what warnings? sorry. I've not been looking at KCI
[19:11] <acheronUK> wxl: have made a start on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZestyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[19:12] <acheronUK> valorie: ^^^
[19:25] <mparillo> acheronUK: When I used to do those kinds of things on the wiki for Alphas and Betas, JR, never posted to the wiki. Only a link. For example, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu
[19:29] <acheronUK> with the access we have now, it's far far easier to edit the wiki content than do full release notes on the main kubuntu website
[19:29] <acheronUK> though if someone with website access wants to duplicate it there, then I guess that is fine
[19:31] <mparillo> Understood. I like most wikis
[19:31] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> We should have someone else with website access
[19:37] <acheronUK> clive?
[19:43] <ahoneybun> well I was thinking mparillo
[19:50] <acheronUK> I don't mind
[19:52] <acheronUK> probably devs should be able to edit also if need be, but not something I would do regularly. 
[20:11] <ahoneybun> acheronUK: do you wish to have power?
[20:13] <acheronUK> ahoneybun: lol. I'm not sure. I have enough to do as it is. but then, as said, suppose it would be handy. 
[20:24] <IrcsomeBot1> <tsimonq2> acheronUK: I will pay you 20 USD if you correct the Kubuntu Team Page last names to only have the first letter capitalized. :P
[20:24] <acheronUK> no
[20:26] <IrcsomeBot1> <tsimonq2> Awwwwwwwwwww
=== Squt is now known as Sput
[20:45] <valorie> oh thank you acheronUK
[20:45] <valorie> I've not got my groove back for some reason!
[20:46] <valorie> I prefer to keep them on the wiki like all/most of the other flavors do
[20:46] <valorie> it makes them easier to find for the casual browser
[20:46] <ahoneybun> but the wiki is hard to edit
[20:47] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> (Photo, 1280x328) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/EwGbdAgK/file_2358.jpg
[20:47] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> we have this
[20:52] <valorie> nice
[20:52] <valorie> ahoneybun: true, it is hard to edit
[20:52] <valorie> but since each iteration is usually just a bit of change from the previous one, doable
[20:53] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0KwVhUHP/file_2363.svg
[20:54] <valorie> and for me, editing on the website is a nightmare
[20:54] <acheronUK> ahoneybun: is that the actual image to use? the kubuntu logo has some jpeg compression artefacts showing
[20:54] <ahoneybun> well I just got the svg so that should be fine
[20:54] <acheronUK> oh. scgs :)
[20:54] <acheronUK> *svgs
[20:55] <valorie> I like the most blurred
[20:56] <acheronUK> Didn't think to blur the background on the one I tried the other day. duh....
[20:56] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> not sure where the thing goes tho
[20:57] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> got it
[20:57] <acheronUK> yep. should either show that wallpaper background clearly, or blurred enough that it's just hinting at it.
[20:58] <acheronUK> the slightly blurred version inbetween is a bit eye-strain inducing
[20:59] <IrcsomeBot1> <ahoneybun> and the svg is tooo large to upload
[20:59] <acheronUK> though it depends what it looks like in context on the site itself.
[21:06] <ahoneybun> oops
[21:09] <acheronUK> file size limit?
[21:09] <ahoneybun> well yea I just used the png
[21:10] <acheronUK> which here looks blurry when the site enlarges it
[21:10] <ahoneybun> you see it?
[21:10] <ahoneybun> which is why I wanted an svg
[21:11] <acheronUK> what is the limit?
[21:11] <ahoneybun> 2mb
[21:36] <acheronUK> so would be too big? http://i.imgur.com/vXDL73E.png
[21:40] <acheronUK> old wobbly gears on that as well :/
[21:40] <ahoneybun> I'm not sure about the size anymore tbh
[21:46]  * acheronUK shrugs
[21:49]  * clivejo shrugs
[21:50]  * acheronUK shrugs harder
[21:50]  * clivejo shrugs and kicks
[21:51]  * clivejo polishes his tractor with Mr Sheen
[21:52] <acheronUK> lol
[21:53] <acheronUK> looks like PIM won't being going in backports for release day. no testing done
[21:53] <valorie> acheronUK: the release notes looks good, however the images at the bottom are broken for me
[21:54] <acheronUK> valorie: ah. they were attachments and did not get copied. will sort that.
[21:55] <valorie> acheronUK: perhaps we can send something special asking for PIM testing?
[21:55] <valorie> I imagine sending to the user list along with the devel list would be good
[21:55] <valorie> if you write up something I'll edit and send.... 
[21:56] <valorie> probably too late for zero day, but could be soon after if we get throrough testing, right?
[21:56] <acheronUK> valorie: yes, if we get it in backports-landing for zesty or similar, people can test. 
[21:57] <valorie> uh
[21:58] <acheronUK> uh?
[21:58] <valorie> I hesitate to ask people on a user list to add backports landing
[21:58] <valorie> is there a specific PPA?
[21:59] <valorie> special for just that, I mean
[21:59] <valorie> so that people don't get hit with untested stuff if they forget to remove
[21:59] <acheronUK> staging-kdeapplications is where they are living just now. could maybe copy somewhere else though
[21:59] <valorie> staging is another I don't like to recommend publicly beyond this channel
[22:00] <acheronUK> yofel's opion would probably help here
[22:00] <acheronUK> *opinion
[22:00] <valorie> some damn "news" site gets it, and boom, we're in trouble
[22:00] <acheronUK> no, I would not suggest staging
[22:00]  * valorie goes to pour more coffee
[22:04] <acheronUK> valorie: I made https://phabricator.kde.org/T5840 the other day
[22:04] <acheronUK> don't think anyone has looked at it though
[22:10] <clivejo> acheronUK: for me, just do it
[22:10] <clivejo> Ive been using PIM all along
[22:10] <clivejo> and had no issues until recently
[22:11] <valorie> just backport, you mean?
[22:12] <clivejo> yes, put 16.12 PIM into backports
[22:12] <clivejo> for zesty
[22:12] <valorie> oh, for zesty
[22:12] <acheronUK> even then, there would be a question of whether to go through landing 1st.
[22:13] <valorie> unfortunately we have few testers right now
[22:13] <valorie> and the current crowd in #kubuntu isn't very promising
[22:14] <acheronUK> shoving it straight in backports seems wrong to me, and probably breaks some 'policy' somewhere
[22:14] <valorie> well, testing is the key
[22:14] <valorie> and if Clive has been testing long-term, that seems pretty solid to me?
[22:15] <valorie> but basically it is up to you three
[22:15] <acheronUK> clive has been using KCI builds for months
[22:16] <valorie> i've been little help with testing since my laptop went on the fritz
[22:16] <acheronUK> I'll give kmail a go tomorrow 
[22:17] <acheronUK> *if* I can undo the things I've done to kill akonadi. lol
[22:17] <acheronUK> if not, in a VM
[22:17] <acheronUK> as said, I would like Phil's opinion regardless
[22:21] <acheronUK> weird https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376303
[22:21] <ubottu> KDE bug 376303 in general "Does not build due to too long file names" [Grave,Unconfirmed]
[22:22] <acheronUK> kajongg again ^^
[22:26] <valorie> does it build in the KDE git CI?
[22:28] <tsdgeos_> no, missing deps
[22:29] <clivejo> acheronUK: is there something worrying you about PIM?
[22:34] <acheronUK> clivejo: just lack of testing of our packages. probably being over cautious
[22:40] <valorie> they are rolling out ISOs marked final now
[22:41] <valorie> I can't recall when a release cycle whizzed by so quickly
[22:45] <clivejo> has it?
[22:47]  * acheronUK wants to start on 'Amorous Alligator'
[22:48] <clivejo> indeed
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[23:13] <valorie> clivejo: in some ways it seems like mere weeks ago, until I start remembering all that has happened over the past 6 months
[23:13] <valorie> then it seems like forever
[23:15] <clivejo> a lot has happened!
[23:20] <valorie> amen to that
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[23:46] <valorie> wxl: how is kubuntu looking, release-wise?
[23:47] <wxl> i haven't really looked, but we don't have all our tests taken care of :(
[23:47] <valorie> :(
[23:47] <wxl> s/looked/personally tested/
[23:48] <wxl> 2 in i386, 1 in amd64, not counting the dreaded OEM setup, but i'm talking to cyphermox about that, i think :)
[23:48] <ahoneybun> not sure how to do autoresize
[23:48] <ahoneybun> we more then 1 in amd
[23:48] <wxl> you follow the testcase
[23:48] <wxl> ideally auto-resize would be one that you would do after one of the other tests is done
[23:48] <ahoneybun> which is written badly
[23:48] <tsimonq2> I'm taking care of OEM so I can debug with cyphermox if needed.
[23:48] <wxl> you can rewrite it
[23:48] <wxl> patches are welcome :)
[23:49] <valorie> just tweeted about it again, if that can hlep
[23:49] <valorie> help
[23:50] <wxl> i gotta do taxes tonight so hopefully i can work on it then
[23:50] <wxl> at least tsimonq2 has the oem set up taken care of
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[23:51] <valorie> new computer I will get vms all set up at the beginning
[23:51] <tsimonq2> valorie: If it helps, because it *also* applies to Lubuntu (kinda), I retweeted it as @LubuntuOfficial
[23:51] <valorie> cool
[23:53] <valorie> ok, time for dinner
[23:53] <tsimonq2> valorie: Have fun :)
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