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lotuspsychjegood morning to all01:53
lotuspsychjemorning nacc04:01
nacclotuspsychje: morning -- although i'm not really here!04:03
lotuspsychjelol04:04
lotuspsychjeidle love is the best04:04
naccas it's quite late and i'm just banging my head against a snap04:04
lotuspsychjelol04:14
lotuspsychjesnappy snap04:14
naccfinally got it, i think04:14
lotuspsychjenacc: installing a snap?04:20
nacclotuspsychje: building one04:20
nacclotuspsychje: for the git importer i'm working on for the server team04:20
lotuspsychjeniceee04:20
naccyeah, i'm waiting for it to publish so i can test in my VM :)04:21
lotuspsychjebbl guys working day again04:36
Bashing-omDone too for this session \o04:43
ducassemorning everyone06:09
EriC^morning06:16
ducassehi EriC^ - what's up?06:17
EriC^hi ducasse , not much just woke up, you?06:18
ducassepretty much the same thing :) luna has been trying to get me up since about 6, but i refused :)06:19
lordievaderGood morning.06:19
ducasse\o lordievader06:21
lordievaderHey ducasse06:21
lordievaderHow are you?06:21
ducassegood thanks. you? have you got your caffeinated beverage yet?06:22
lordievaderI do, it is right next to me ;)06:25
lordievaderYou?06:25
ducasseyup, it's right here :) it's a necessary component in the morning to get me ready for the day :)06:28
lordievaderIndeed06:32
OerHeksmorning, all06:34
ducassemorning, OerHeks :)06:36
EriC^morning OerHeks06:37
EriC^lordievader06:37
lordievaderHey EriC^06:39
lordievaderMore coffee :D07:13
ikevinhi lordievader07:59
lordievaderHey ikevin08:00
ikevinhow are you?08:02
lordievaderDoing good here, how are you?08:22
ikevinall fine :)08:29
lordievaderGood :)08:40
SimooonI'm considering switching to ubuntu gnome, when the new release comes out to get a headstart on gnome, do you think that default ubuntu will be like ubuntu gnome, when they shift DE?09:18
Simooonor will they do a lot of customisations/optimisations09:19
ikevini think they will provide a customized one09:19
Simooonthat was my thought as well, but then I read somewhere (forgot where) that they will not modify gnome extensively,but not sure if that just means they will use gnomes default applications, or that they will actually leave the default theme on :-)09:22
SimooonWill probably end up using unity 7 for one more release, I think it has become quite good anyway, so no complaints :-)09:24
hendrixSimooon: mark shuttleworth have said "I think we should respect the GNOME design leadership by delivering GNOME the way GNOME wants it delivered. "10:13
Simooonhendrix, but do you think that means completely unaltered, or with the default applications or something else10:16
hendrixprobably nobody outside canonical really knows. and even their initial plans can change.10:21
hendrixI'd guess they don't change default apps too much. would make transition for people harder but who knows.10:22
BluesKaj'Morning all10:24
OerHekstransition should be hard, but the apps should just work.10:25
OerHeks"it must look like windows" silly silly10:25
OerHeksHi there BluesKaj10:26
BluesKajHi OerHeks10:27
ko34kerhdhi, guys. can somebody look into ubuntu budgie remix? the hash on sourceforge doesn't equal to the one specified on https://ubuntubudgie.org/downloads#13:22
ko34kerhdon site it says MD5 hash Budgie-Remix 16.10 amd64: 76dc7b1ec656355d82f9bfa18b72b18713:22
ko34kerhdbut in fact it differs. I got f9e769....etc13:22
ko34kerhd2 downloads on different computers. the same f9e769... hash13:22
ko34kerhdhaven't check other versions (16.04 and i386's)13:23
ko34kerhdto be exact I get F9E769BDEB3CEB5CF9E45504C5C68658 for budgie-remix-16.10-amd64.iso13:25
ducasseko34kerhd: budgie 16.10 is not supported by ubuntu, 17.04 will be the first official release13:27
lordievaderLets see what I get.13:28
lordievaderI get 'd1c5c18cd9debc86d7b15894cc103e09'13:30
lordievaderko34kerhd: The website is out of date,  see the md5sum file on source-forge: f9e769bdeb3ceb5cf9e45504c5c68658  binary.hybrid.iso13:33
ko34kerhdok, then13:34
nacctgm4883: if you're looking at tweaks like you mentioned on #ubuntu, seems like you got pretty close to functional for the basic stuff, then? or was that on a lappy and not a tablet?15:20
tgm4883nacc: I'm on my laptop now15:20
tgm4883not the tablet15:20
nacctgm4883: ah ok15:20
tgm4883I had to send the tablet back to dell a second time, it doesn't wake from sleep properly15:20
naccthat's annoying! did you have that problem before too (second time)?15:22
tgm4883nacc: yea. It's the reason I sent it to them in the first place. They "Fixed it" except they didn't, and they introduced an error when it boots now too15:24
nacctgm4883: awesome (not).15:25
nacctgm4883: at least they didn't say: "using Linux? can't help you!"15:25
tgm4883actually it had windows 10 on it when I sent it in the first time15:25
tgm4883They reimaged it anyway, despite me giving them the password15:26
tgm4883So I left Ubuntu Gnome on it this time and just said reimage it again15:26
naccseems reasonble15:26
Tim_ThalerHi, how do i convert from Upstart to System V - Init ?16:02
naccTim_Thaler: OerHeks did give some response in #ubuntu16:02
Tim_Thaleri think there was a apt-get install <packet> was it ?16:02
Tim_Thalerfuck16:02
Tim_Thaler i hat eyou16:03
Tim_Thalerstop annoying me16:03
ttmdyou can't just remove upstart16:03
Tim_Thalerttmd: what happens if i do "apt-get purge upstart" ?16:05
naccon 14.04, your system will probably fail to boot16:05
naccas it will remove most of the core of the OS via reverse dependencies16:06
OerHekseasy to find out :-D16:07
OerHeksreinstall takes 30 minutes, and you are back16:07
naccOerHeks: true :)16:07
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tgm4883pfft, 30 minutes. I installed Ubuntu gnome in like 416:38
tgm4883USB3 FTW16:38
Bashing-omThen again "some" have fiber optic connection AND an SSD ... seconds !16:44
* nicomachus 16:47
immuBluesKaj: hi17:20
immuducasse: hi17:20
Bashing-omchores -- biab .18:26
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