[01:53] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> morning nacc
[04:03] <nacc> lotuspsychje: morning -- although i'm not really here!
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> lol
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> idle love is the best
[04:04] <nacc> as it's quite late and i'm just banging my head against a snap
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> lol
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> snappy snap
[04:14] <nacc> finally got it, i think
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> nacc: installing a snap?
[04:20] <nacc> lotuspsychje: building one
[04:20] <nacc> lotuspsychje: for the git importer i'm working on for the server team
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> niceee
[04:21] <nacc> yeah, i'm waiting for it to publish so i can test in my VM :)
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> bbl guys working day again
[04:43] <Bashing-om> Done too for this session \o
[06:09] <ducasse> morning everyone
[06:16] <EriC^> morning
[06:17] <ducasse> hi EriC^ - what's up?
[06:18] <EriC^> hi ducasse , not much just woke up, you?
[06:19] <ducasse> pretty much the same thing :) luna has been trying to get me up since about 6, but i refused :)
[06:19] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:21] <ducasse> \o lordievader
[06:21] <lordievader> Hey ducasse
[06:21] <lordievader> How are you?
[06:22] <ducasse> good thanks. you? have you got your caffeinated beverage yet?
[06:25] <lordievader> I do, it is right next to me ;)
[06:25] <lordievader> You?
[06:28] <ducasse> yup, it's right here :) it's a necessary component in the morning to get me ready for the day :)
[06:32] <lordievader> Indeed
[06:34] <OerHeks> morning, all
[06:36] <ducasse> morning, OerHeks :)
[06:37] <EriC^> morning OerHeks
[06:37] <EriC^> lordievader
[06:39] <lordievader> Hey EriC^
[07:13] <lordievader> More coffee :D
[07:59] <ikevin> hi lordievader
[08:00] <lordievader> Hey ikevin
[08:02] <ikevin> how are you?
[08:22] <lordievader> Doing good here, how are you?
[08:29] <ikevin> all fine :)
[08:40] <lordievader> Good :)
[09:18] <Simooon> I'm considering switching to ubuntu gnome, when the new release comes out to get a headstart on gnome, do you think that default ubuntu will be like ubuntu gnome, when they shift DE?
[09:19] <Simooon> or will they do a lot of customisations/optimisations
[09:19] <ikevin> i think they will provide a customized one
[09:22] <Simooon> that was my thought as well, but then I read somewhere (forgot where) that they will not modify gnome extensively,but not sure if that just means they will use gnomes default applications, or that they will actually leave the default theme on :-)
[09:24] <Simooon> Will probably end up using unity 7 for one more release, I think it has become quite good anyway, so no complaints :-)
[10:13] <hendrix> Simooon: mark shuttleworth have said "I think we should respect the GNOME design leadership by delivering GNOME the way GNOME wants it delivered. "
[10:16] <Simooon> hendrix, but do you think that means completely unaltered, or with the default applications or something else
[10:21] <hendrix> probably nobody outside canonical really knows. and even their initial plans can change.
[10:22] <hendrix> I'd guess they don't change default apps too much. would make transition for people harder but who knows.
[10:24] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[10:25] <OerHeks> transition should be hard, but the apps should just work.
[10:25] <OerHeks> "it must look like windows" silly silly
[10:26] <OerHeks> Hi there BluesKaj
[10:27] <BluesKaj> Hi OerHeks
[13:22] <ko34kerhd> hi, guys. can somebody look into ubuntu budgie remix? the hash on sourceforge doesn't equal to the one specified on https://ubuntubudgie.org/downloads#
[13:22] <ko34kerhd> on site it says MD5 hash Budgie-Remix 16.10 amd64: 76dc7b1ec656355d82f9bfa18b72b187
[13:22] <ko34kerhd> but in fact it differs. I got f9e769....etc
[13:22] <ko34kerhd> 2 downloads on different computers. the same f9e769... hash
[13:23] <ko34kerhd> haven't check other versions (16.04 and i386's)
[13:25] <ko34kerhd> to be exact I get F9E769BDEB3CEB5CF9E45504C5C68658 for budgie-remix-16.10-amd64.iso
[13:27] <ducasse> ko34kerhd: budgie 16.10 is not supported by ubuntu, 17.04 will be the first official release
[13:28] <lordievader> Lets see what I get.
[13:30] <lordievader> I get 'd1c5c18cd9debc86d7b15894cc103e09'
[13:33] <lordievader> ko34kerhd: The website is out of date,  see the md5sum file on source-forge: f9e769bdeb3ceb5cf9e45504c5c68658  binary.hybrid.iso
[13:34] <ko34kerhd> ok, then
[15:20] <nacc> tgm4883: if you're looking at tweaks like you mentioned on #ubuntu, seems like you got pretty close to functional for the basic stuff, then? or was that on a lappy and not a tablet?
[15:20] <tgm4883> nacc: I'm on my laptop now
[15:20] <tgm4883> not the tablet
[15:20] <nacc> tgm4883: ah ok
[15:20] <tgm4883> I had to send the tablet back to dell a second time, it doesn't wake from sleep properly
[15:22] <nacc> that's annoying! did you have that problem before too (second time)?
[15:24] <tgm4883> nacc: yea. It's the reason I sent it to them in the first place. They "Fixed it" except they didn't, and they introduced an error when it boots now too
[15:25] <nacc> tgm4883: awesome (not).
[15:25] <nacc> tgm4883: at least they didn't say: "using Linux? can't help you!"
[15:25] <tgm4883> actually it had windows 10 on it when I sent it in the first time
[15:26] <tgm4883> They reimaged it anyway, despite me giving them the password
[15:26] <tgm4883> So I left Ubuntu Gnome on it this time and just said reimage it again
[15:26] <nacc> seems reasonble
[16:02] <Tim_Thaler> Hi, how do i convert from Upstart to System V - Init ?
[16:02] <nacc> Tim_Thaler: OerHeks did give some response in #ubuntu
[16:02] <Tim_Thaler> i think there was a apt-get install <packet> was it ?
[16:02] <Tim_Thaler> fuck
[16:03] <Tim_Thaler>  i hat eyou
[16:03] <Tim_Thaler> stop annoying me
[16:03] <ttmd> you can't just remove upstart
[16:05] <Tim_Thaler> ttmd: what happens if i do "apt-get purge upstart" ?
[16:05] <nacc> on 14.04, your system will probably fail to boot
[16:06] <nacc> as it will remove most of the core of the OS via reverse dependencies
[16:07] <OerHeks> easy to find out :-D
[16:07] <OerHeks> reinstall takes 30 minutes, and you are back
[16:07] <nacc> OerHeks: true :)
[16:38] <tgm4883> pfft, 30 minutes. I installed Ubuntu gnome in like 4
[16:38] <tgm4883> USB3 FTW
[16:44] <Bashing-om> Then again "some" have fiber optic connection AND an SSD ... seconds !
[16:47]  * nicomachus 
[17:20] <immu> BluesKaj: hi
[17:20] <immu> ducasse: hi
[18:26] <Bashing-om> chores -- biab .