[03:15] <PlainDave> Hey all you Mateys! haha! I love Ubuntu MATE.
[03:17] <PlainDave> and I've installed and tried about all of 'em.
[06:35] <kawasaki14011> mk14011u
[09:01] <ouroumov_> jbicha, you there?
[09:18] <ouroumov_> jbicha, wrt https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1666021 I've just experienced this I think. High CPU usage and also massive link-local network activity. Yesterday I installed dnsmasq because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1681912 and I was wondering if when you reinstalled, you did that too?
[10:20] <flexiondotorg> ouroumov_ Hi
[10:20] <flexiondotorg> Can you update the following bug please - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1681912
[10:20] <flexiondotorg> Can you describe how to configure network connection sharing.
[10:21] <flexiondotorg> Also, on your own system, remove dnsmasq and just install dnsmasq-base.
[11:45] <ouroumov_> flexiondotorg, updated description and replaced dnsmasq with dnsmasq-base,  but I won't be able to re-test until I get home tonight.
[11:49] <flexiondotorg> Thanks.
[11:52] <ouroumov_> I've edited again to remove references to dnsmasq package
[12:32] <deskwizard> ouroumov_: same result on .2, I didnt do the update for "ubuntu-base" but it wasnt those 2
[12:32] <ouroumov_> deskwizard, it's magic
[12:32] <deskwizard> I think I'll stop being thick and use a VM for a little while, will report back
[12:33] <ouroumov_> deskwizard, alternatively maybe you can check out 17.04, it's quite an upgrade. ^^
[12:36] <deskwizard> ouroumov_: yeah I think I'll do that for that machine, I'll do more test in a VM later if I hit the issue on the project HW
[12:38] <ouroumov_> deskwizard, is it a laptop or a desktop btw?
[12:38] <deskwizard> ouroumov_: deskwop
[12:38] <deskwizard> desktop*
[12:39] <deskwizard> the laptop im using atm didnt get the issue, not did the 2 other desktops
[12:39] <ouroumov_> deskwizard, you don't happen to have a spare drive lying around?
[12:40] <deskwizard> ouroumov_: I don't think I do... did full test on the HD last night as you suggested and everything was clean, I'll get 17.04, worse comes to worse I'll ask a friend a favor and borrow a drive
[12:41] <deskwizard> ouroumov_: not having issue with the other OS in dual boot though
[12:42] <ouroumov_> deskwizard, what was really weird from your screenshot is that it's kind of a half theme regression
[12:42] <deskwizard> yeah, really weird indeed
[12:42] <ouroumov_> deskwizard, the 'show desktop' icon in the panel has correct theme, only the desktop icons are weird
[12:43] <deskwizard> ouroumov_: yeah and the UI, iirc the menu itself was fine
[12:44] <deskwizard> I'll double check that in a minute
[12:44] <ouroumov_> deskwizard, yesterday I forgot to ask if you'd checked the checksum for the .iso
[12:45] <deskwizard> ouroumov_: I did not, but I did install successfully with the same images in the past
[12:46] <deskwizard> perhaps I should have, let me see how its done hehehe
[12:47] <ouroumov_> deskwizard, the sha256sum is listed on the website download page
[12:47] <ouroumov_> deskwizard, just open a terminal in the directory where you've got the .iso file then run "sha256sum ubuntu-mate-blabla.iso"
[12:47] <ouroumov_> for 16.04.2 it should be 39cb4d4069dd79a9104b8c1c5d0d4a5b009779eec55fafeceafcf43c7ebcaba4
[12:48] <deskwizard> ouroumov_: yeah, kinda using another OS for making the flash drive atm, yeah I got the SHA256 from the image download page
[12:48] <deskwizard> bbiab, getting that worked out.
[12:50] <deskwizard> yep, image is fine
[12:50] <deskwizard> I think that's gonna be a "get my hammer" situation :P
[12:51] <ouroumov_> ^^
[12:51] <deskwizard> I'll double-check the menu thing and get 17.04 on there
[12:54] <deskwizard> http://i.imgur.com/jT65U5V.jpg yep, menus are fine
[12:58] <ouroumov_> This is so weird. It looks like it affects only caja.
[13:12] <ouroumov_> That was a complete reinstall deskwizard right? (Erase disk and install) you didn't preserve your /home partition or something like that?
[13:13] <deskwizard> ouroumov_: nope, format everytime, I thought I forgot when it first happened hehe
[13:13] <deskwizard> well, when it happened on the first reinstall that is
[13:13] <Astro7467> deskwizard: ouroumov_: not read all the chat. a) what video card? b) what happens if compositor is changed?
[13:14] <deskwizard> Astro7467: very good point, thats the only machine with an nvidia card
[13:15] <Astro7467> was expecting AMD 😀
[13:15] <deskwizard> Astro7467: lol well, the old AMD ones are fine :P (3000 and 4000 series)
[13:16] <Astro7467> see if compositor makes difference.
[13:16] <deskwizard> Astro7467: will look into that, will take a couple minutes for the flash and reinstall, will report back
[13:17] <Astro7467> Okay
[13:18] <deskwizard> just to make sure I do it right, should I cherry pick the updates in case I can see which one causes the issue ?
[13:21] <ouroumov_> I'm not sure how you can do that though
[13:22] <ouroumov_> In your experience does the issue appear after a reboot or right after the update?
[13:26] <deskwizard> ouroumov_: give me a couple minutes to confirm that so I don't give you guys erroneous information
[13:39] <deskwizard> I'll cherry pick the updates then look into the composer thing and your last question
[13:58] <deskwizard> ouroumov_: only after reboot
[13:59] <ouroumov_> Man I just don't get it, no one else has reported this issue. Are you running the OS on some very specific hardware maybe?
[14:01] <deskwizard> ouroumov_: not at all, pretty usual stuff
[14:01] <deskwizard> tried all the compositors, same result
[14:01] <deskwizard> must be the full moon or something :P
[14:02] <ouroumov_> Maybe the machine is cursed.
[14:02] <deskwizard> sounds like it indeed
[14:06] <deskwizard> ouroumov_: found something
[14:06] <deskwizard> if I do "killall caja" it comes back fine
[14:06] <deskwizard> let me see if its sticks after a reboot
[14:09] <deskwizard> and were back
[14:09] <deskwizard> *sigh* that took a while lol
[14:09] <ouroumov_> Verdict?
[14:10] <deskwizard> ouroumov_: solved
[14:15] <deskwizard> your remark about caja did it  ;)
[14:21] <deskwizard> I thought, if I reset caja's settings maybe it'll do the trick, so I searched for that and found this > https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/caja-fm-is-not-skinned-correctly/10943
[15:16] <smart-mirror> question!!!!   There is no sound in hdmi.   Please tell me how to make a sound.
[15:17] <deskwizard> smart-mirror: right click on the volume icon, sound preferences, then select your HDMI out
[15:20] <smart-mirror> The HDMI output selection icon is missing....
[15:23] <deskwizard> smart-mirror: figured it wasn't that easy :P I'm sorry mate I'm quite the noob... I'm sure someone else with skills will chime in
[15:23] <ouroumov_> smart-mirror, what hardware are you using?
[15:26] <smart-mirror> No No No Thank you.      I'm using raspberrypie.
[15:27] <ouroumov_> have you updated and rebooted since install?
[17:35] <biglars> Hello, is the 17.04 version going to be released today?
[17:38] <Astro7467> last update I saw said release was on track for April 13th release.
[17:41] <biglars> Alright!
[17:44] <rasbuntu> Hello, Is ubuntu-mate always available next year?
[18:53] <mate|90053> Is it out yet?
[19:23] <arm1e> Been testing the beta release and noticed that enpass is not installable. The repo does not exist anymore. Is this a known issue?
[19:29] <mate|79846> Hai, the alpha version that you can download now. Will that be updated to the release version or do I have to reinstall it to get the release version?
[20:00] <silicatewielder> Hello, could someone help me with compiling this library?