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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.07:58
davmor2Morning all08:08
BigRedSGoood Morning!08:20
JamesTaitGood morning all! Happy Wednesday, and happy Grilled Cheese Sandwich Day! 😃08:47
zmoylan-pii don't have a hankering for grilled cheese but beans on toast sounds good for dinner today...10:29
foobarrywow popey started a religious war on g+ by posting a screenshot of whatsapp. didn't realise there was so much strong feeling12:24
zmoylan-piwhen all the real geeks use aol messenger... :-P12:25
popeyyeah, weird12:31
SuperMattI'm happy with whatsapp, apparently it's one of the better implementations of signal12:31
foobarrypopey made the point a couple of times he was just demoing any android app12:34
foobarryit really wasn't the point of the discussion12:34
foobarrywith these android things i get excited then realise there aren't any android apps i need on the desktop12:35
penguin42there's a slight danger in using android apps in that people wont bother developing native apps12:36
popeyyeah, took me a while to find anything actually useful12:36
popeyscrolled through all the apps on my phone, and the ones I tried, are all x86, not x86_64 :(12:37
popeye.g. Clash of Clans ;)12:37
popey"apps"12:37
penguin42why is x86 a problem?12:37
popeystill, neat bit of tech12:37
zmoylan-pidesktop linux has needed a few fart apps... :-P12:37
popeyI don't think it runs the x86 apps12:37
popeymaybe it was some other issue12:37
popeyx86 ones I installed just refused to launch. might be a separate issue though12:37
foobarryevernote?12:38
popeyfoobarry: yup, evernote works!12:41
popeyand that's x86. neat12:41
popeyhttp://imgur.com/a/QUqJ212:43
SuperMattI take it you're talking about anbox12:46
foobarryyes,12:53
MooDooafternoon all14:29
BigRedSGood Morniong!14:34
diddledanmoaning14:46
Laneygoat mornernoon14:52
davmor2go moron14:53
* diddledan goes14:53
MooDoodoogy rev14:53
* penguin42 has just registered on the mastodon chat system, as penguin42 on mastodon.org.uk15:13
diddledano_O15:20
Laneyerrrrrrrrm15:54
penguin42Laney: What?! Mastodon's go Toot!16:05
TwistedLuciditypenguin42: Yer going to have a follower in a second, pal16:35
TwistedLucidity2! Feel the power of the social world flow through your veins.16:36
TwistedLucidityNo, I have no idea what I'm doing either.16:36
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foobarrywhats the point of mastodon? what if you are using a server that gets pwned?20:00
penguin42foobarry: What's the point of irc?20:02
penguin42foobarry: It's just a different distributed messaging system20:02
zmoylan-piit's an emergency backup for slack users...20:14
foobarryso its not a twitter?20:15
zmoylan-pitwitter wishes!!20:15
penguin42foobarry: It's a twitter clone20:17
penguin42foobarry: But on a distributed set of servers anyone can run20:17
foobarryand set up badly?20:18
foobarryoh, phoronix was right about silber20:22
foobarryso mastodon is diaspora? :O20:27
penguin42foobarry: I'm not sure - my understanding so far is it's the same server-server protocol, but a different client-server protocol, a cute mascot and there seem to be a few K people actually using it, which is a big improvement on diaspora20:28
foobarryif i create a foobarry username, it's only valid on the server i make it on?20:30
foobarryand every one is referenced by server+username? sounds really messy20:30
penguin42foobarry: Yes I think that's the case20:30
penguin42foobarry: Similar to Matrix in that respet20:30
zmoylan-pibecause name@server completely failed for email20:31
penguin42zmoylan-pi: The bigger problem is that they can't cluster20:32
penguin42zmoylan-pi: Unlike mail where @server might be 50 boxes spread across 3 sites20:32
foobarryand what if your instance goes offline?20:39
foobarryits a dumb idea20:39
zmoylan-pithe second rasp pi hot backup kicks in :-D20:39
foobarryand remembering whether you are the penguin42 on mastodon.social or mastodon.org.uk etc is a joke unless basically everyone deides to use one server20:41
foobarryunless...20:42
zmoylan-piyou can follow stallman on mastodon... none of the other networks has stallman... :-)20:42
foobarryon which server?20:43
foobarryand how do i know thats the real stallman and he's not the stallman on mastod.on ?20:43
popeywell20:43
foobarryso it will have a massive identitiy problem soon20:43
popeyi just searched and there is only one20:43
foobarryso i'll make another now?20:43
popeyso I followed that one20:43
popeyok20:44
foobarrythen what?20:44
foobarrypost pictuers of parrots20:44
popey"Founder of the free software movement. President, Free Software Foundation. Most posts by a script operated by @mattl and @robmyers. Email rms@gnu.org if you want a reply."20:44
foobarrythe only benefit i see is if all the OSS geeks got onto one server and i could read the public timeline on that server alone. but it would soon get tainted anyway20:45
foobarryalso, its making my fans spin up20:45
foobarryctrl-w and down again20:45
penguin42foobarry: The bigger problem is that it's not failure proof against one server failing, so if mastodon.social goes extinct I can't log into elephant.social20:48
foobarryDue to exceptionally high traffic, registrations on this instance are closed until quality of service can be assured for existing users. Choose one of the various other public instances to sign up!20:49
foobarrylolz20:49
foobarryso everyone wants .social20:49
penguin42foobarry: The thing is it might have enough people to sustain it which none of the others have managed20:50
zmoylan-pitwitter is reaching critical bad management so it might have a chance20:50
foobarrymaybe if it focuses around 2 or 3 servers?20:53
zmoylan-pior they find a way to nickname servers so they're easy to remember locate20:57
penguin42foobarry: I dunno - I don't think it's actually a problem having a lot of servers, I think it just needs a way of federating the userinformation between them in the way freenode does21:00

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