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theblazehenMorning all06:57
Kiloshi theblazehen and everyone else07:09
Kilosand even inetpro 07:09
theblazehenHi Kilos07:09
inetprogood mornings07:10
inetproand wb oom Kilos07:10
inetproare you ok?07:10
Kilosyes ty just had a slow day yesterday sorry07:10
Kilosisp complaining and bad internet etc etc07:11
Kilosand working on ians car, stupid thing had another coil pack up07:12
Kilos4 coils in one year, and i have no idea whats causing it07:12
andrewlsdcoils under-rated perhaps? but that would, I guess, cause all cars of that model to have the same problem. Unless it is over-volting on the input10:08
andrewlsdKilos: are they actual coils. or pseudo-coils (electronics)10:09
XethronGreetings10:20
Kilosyeah horrible things if thats how long they last10:21
Kiloshi Xethron 10:21
chesedoafternoon all10:39
chesedotheblazehen: ready for the news tonight?11:00
theblazehenchesedo: Yeah11:40
chesedotheblazehen: great11:40
andrewlsdHi chesedo Kilos Xethron11:46
andrewlsdany thing we can go look at ahead of tonights mini-meeting?11:46
andrewlsdtheblazehen: anything you'd like us to look at ahead of tonight's meeting?11:47
andrewlsdchesedo: I'm assuming there is. (as opposed to channel message which says 25 Apr)11:47
XethronHi Kilos11:54
XethronHello andrewlsd11:54
andrewlsdHi Xethron12:03
Kiloshi andrewlsd chesedo 12:17
theblazehenandrewlsd: Nothing in particular12:38
chesedoandrewlsd: yes mini meeting12:42
chesedofor the edu project i just got a pubsweet test setup and it seems disappointing -> pubsweet.chesedo.me12:45
chesedoseems that it is more blog orientated...12:46
andrewlsdyeah, "powered by Science Blogger" 12:47
andrewlsdchesedo: you might be interested in Netlify.com12:48
andrewlsdcorrecting that to netlifycms.org12:49
andrewlsda static site generator, with CI/CD workflows.12:50
chesedoandrewlsd: interesting12:53
chesedoi also quite like hugo for static sites and it currently has this -> https://caddyserver.com/docs/hugo12:55
* theblazehen uses caddy for first layer of my reverse proxy, auto ssl. Quite nice12:56
Kilosand nikola12:56
theblazehenYeah. /me is using Nikola for blog at the moment12:57
andrewlsdtheblazehen: who's your caddy12:58
andrewlsd;-)12:58
theblazehenheh12:59
chesedoso i have to do an assignment (research) on social media for a networking module...14:20
chesedoand since IRC is the one i use the most, thought i might do 'irc etiquette'14:21
chesedohas anyone ever observed some etiquette that they thought was quite nice (and possible uncommon)?14:23
chesedoor just really cool?14:23
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LangjanHello all16:17
LangjanAny news about kilos? I see he's not on line, wondering how he has been.16:20
nsnzeroevening folks16:53
theblazehenhi nsnzero18:17
nsnzerogood evening theblazehen 18:18
nsnzerohow goes the overthewire games ?18:19
theblazehennsnzero: Doing pretty decent18:19
nsnzeroi trying out  semtex - its seems nice and hard18:20
theblazehenI got stuck on the one, I thought that the mysql server was down or something, as it was supposed to say "This user exists" or "this user doesn't exist", turns out that I should have pasted the text into an editor with syntax hilighting. The echo("this user exists"); etc were commented out... That was a fun one to solve :)18:21
theblazehenNice. You've done this kind of stuff before?18:22
nsnzeroi was trying 1 game over telnet - i forgot the name18:23
nsnzerotelehack but its old and not really relevant using i go back in time to the 80's18:24
theblazehenI need to finish off Natas, and working on http://overthewire.org/wargames/narnia/ currently working on solving level 4. Kinda cool to get quite low level, even if in real life you need to deal with stuff like ASLR, NX memory etc. I'll get there18:24
theblazehenNot ssh?18:24
theblazehenAh18:24
nsnzerounless*18:24
theblazehenSo, you went straight to the hard challenges? Nice. How far are you on Semtex?18:25
nsnzerolevel 0 18:26
nsnzeronever really get into it yet 18:26
theblazehennsnzero: Don't you wanna start with an easyish one?18:27
nsnzeroi was doing bandit level then i got bored18:27
theblazehenYeah, bandit is easy 18:27
theblazehenFinished it in a night18:28
theblazehenNatas, easy until you get a couple levels in18:28
theblazehenIf you're looking for hard, but approachable, go narnia18:28
chesedoyou all ready?18:30
chesedoMaaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Mini Meeting - 12 April 201718:30
* Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles18:30
theblazehenYup18:30
chesedoHi all and welcome to the mini meeting18:30
nsnzeroi will try it out theblazehen - time permitting 18:30
chesedofeel free to introduce yourself to maaz using 'Maaz: I am <first, last name>'18:31
nsnzeropardon me - hi chesedo 18:31
theblazehenMaaz I am Jeandre Le Roux18:31
Maaztheblazehen: Righto18:31
nsnzeroMaaz: i am nasan zero18:31
Maaznsnzero: Done18:31
chesedothe topics are "News", "Local job openings" and "Education Project"18:31
chesedoMaaz: topic News18:31
MaazCurrent Topic: News18:31
chesedotheblazehen: off to you...18:32
theblazehenAlright18:32
theblazehenA bit of humor to start off, http://blog.plover.com/Unix/dev-null.html - Restoring /dev/null from backup18:32
theblazehenA great case of the 500 mile email, https://www.ibiblio.org/harris/500milemail.html18:33
theblazehenand IP over Avian Carriers, https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2549 18:33
chesedolol18:34
chesedo"restore /dev/null from the tape backups"18:34
theblazehenhttp://www.ee.ryerson.ca/~elf/hack/recovery.html Great story about a guy recovering from a rm -rf /, as well as some extra disaster stories at http://www.yak.net/carmen/unix_horror_stories18:34
theblazehenwww.2uo.de/myths-about-urandom/ /dev/random isn't really needed, despite what the man page suggests18:35
theblazehenhttps://github.com/apenwarr/sshuttle - When you don't have a proper vpn access, just an ssh jump box, and you don't want to manually forward ports for eg services not ssh, this works great, and ty andrewlsd for linking me to https://pypi.python.org/pypi/sshoot/1.2.5 as well18:36
theblazehenhttps://hackernoon.com/how-it-feels-to-learn-javascript-in-2016-d3a717dd577f - Never really managed to get into JavaScript myself18:37
theblazehenhttp://anbox.io/ - run android apps on normal Linux18:37
theblazehenhttp://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cs161/fa08/papers/stack_smashing.pdf Nice intro to some basic buffer overflow exploits kinda, (@nsnzero)18:38
theblazehenAn if anyone's interested in security stuff, http://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit/ is a great basic intro to normal linux stuff18:39
theblazehenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjtyifWTqmc - Smashing the mainframe for fun and prison time18:39
theblazehenAnd if anyone's interested in security stuff, I'd really like to see our ranking increase on https://www.wechall.net/country_ranking/18:39
theblazehenSome old style stuff, http://www.neocomputer.org/projects/et/ - Improving ET for the atari 2600 and http://www.randomterrain.com/atari-2600-memories-tutorial-andrew-davie-01.html - Atari 2600 Programming for Newbies18:40
theblazehenThen for actual news,18:40
theblazehenRHEL 5 is EOL as of 31 March 201718:40
theblazehenUbuntu 17.04 to be released tomorrow18:40
theblazehenand Canonical to be dropping Unity 8 and Mir18:41
theblazehenNot news, but I have all reddit comments since 2005 loaded up into elasticsearch, so if anyone has ideas for some interesting data mining stuff I can do, let me know18:41
theblazehenThat's pretty much it from my end18:42
chesedowow18:42
chesedoty theblazehen18:42
chesedoMaaz: topic Local Openings and Help18:42
MaazCurrent Topic: Local Openings and Help18:42
nsnzerogood stuff theblazehen 18:42
theblazehenty nsnzero18:43
chesedotheblazehen: do you know how current the LSD jobs are that you shared last time?18:43
chesedofor now here is the previous list:18:45
chesedoSenior Linux Administrator / Linux Architect (Jhb) -> http://www.lsd.co.za/senior-linux-administrator--linux-archi18:45
chesedoSenior JAVA Developer with Middleware Experience (Jhb) -> http://www.lsd.co.za/senior-java-developer-with-middleware-ex18:45
chesedoJava Middleware Magician (Jhb) -> http://www.lsd.co.za/java-middleware-magician18:45
chesedoDBA Guru (Jhb) -> http://www.lsd.co.za/dba-guru 18:45
theblazehenWe got 2 new guys, so dba position is filled18:45
chesedoah ty18:45
theblazehen@andrewlsd?18:45
chesedoMaaz: topic Ubuntu Education18:46
MaazCurrent Topic: Ubuntu Education18:46
chesedowilliam is on leave this week afaik...18:46
nsnzerothats correct chesedo 18:46
chesedobut i got a pubsweet test up -> pubsweet.chesedo.me18:47
chesedoand it seems that it is more for blogging...18:47
nsnzerowe were planning to meet this week - but things dont go has planned 18:47
chesedoalthough Editorial (https://gitlab.coko.foundation/yannisbarlas/editoria) which uses pubsweet might be better18:48
chesedobut its setup is failing currently18:48
chesedooh ok nsnzero...18:48
chesedoguess you are also refering to the pcs you have nsnzero18:48
nsnzeroyes - delayed unfortunately 18:49
chesedothat is it for this week then18:50
chesedoty you for the jokes and news theblazehen18:50
chesedoMaaz: end meeting18:50
MaazMeeting Ended18:50
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nsnzerochesedo: what is pubsweet ? 18:51
chesedonsnzero: we thought that it was something like booktype... to aid in the creation and collaboration of books18:52
theblazehenI haven't really looked at what all that provides, but BookStack18:55
theblazehenis a really nice wiki based on a book like concept18:55
nsnzerook - maybe you can help with this problem - i download / save a lot of web pages is there anything i can use to catalogue the pages for easy reference / searching ?18:55
theblazehenMight not be what you're looking for, but I thought I'd mention it18:55
theblazehenSaved as which format?18:55
nsnzerohtml / odt / pdf18:56
chesedotheblazehen: will try it ty18:56
theblazehenYou should be able to run a yacy.net instance over them, search works well enough18:56
nsnzeroi will give it look over 18:58
nsnzeroyacy.net page wont load - borks qupzilla - lol 19:00
theblazehenhttps://github.com/yacy/yacy_search_server all you need anyway19:01
theblazehenAnd I just spotted https://github.com/fossasia/susper.com - Must be new, /me looks into it19:02
nsnzerosomething that search for keywords in a html page and catalogues it in a database would be nice19:06
theblazehennsnzero: Yeah, yacy does that too19:07
nsnzerobrilliant 19:07
nsnzerogood night all19:37
theblazehenMaaz tell nsnzero And if you look at the low level stuff, remember x86 IS LITTLE ENDIAN! And the stack grows _down_!19:55
Maaztheblazehen: Righto, I'll tell nsnzero on freenode19:55
theblazehenThen endianness thing really annoys me19:57

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