[06:57] <theblazehen> Morning all
[07:09] <Kilos> hi theblazehen and everyone else
[07:09] <Kilos> and even inetpro 
[07:09] <theblazehen> Hi Kilos
[07:10] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:10] <inetpro> and wb oom Kilos
[07:10] <inetpro> are you ok?
[07:10] <Kilos> yes ty just had a slow day yesterday sorry
[07:11] <Kilos> isp complaining and bad internet etc etc
[07:12] <Kilos> and working on ians car, stupid thing had another coil pack up
[07:12] <Kilos> 4 coils in one year, and i have no idea whats causing it
[10:08] <andrewlsd> coils under-rated perhaps? but that would, I guess, cause all cars of that model to have the same problem. Unless it is over-volting on the input
[10:09] <andrewlsd> Kilos: are they actual coils. or pseudo-coils (electronics)
[10:20] <Xethron> Greetings
[10:21] <Kilos> yeah horrible things if thats how long they last
[10:21] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[10:39] <chesedo> afternoon all
[11:00] <chesedo> theblazehen: ready for the news tonight?
[11:40] <theblazehen> chesedo: Yeah
[11:40] <chesedo> theblazehen: great
[11:46] <andrewlsd> Hi chesedo Kilos Xethron
[11:46] <andrewlsd> any thing we can go look at ahead of tonights mini-meeting?
[11:47] <andrewlsd> theblazehen: anything you'd like us to look at ahead of tonight's meeting?
[11:47] <andrewlsd> chesedo: I'm assuming there is. (as opposed to channel message which says 25 Apr)
[11:54] <Xethron> Hi Kilos
[11:54] <Xethron> Hello andrewlsd
[12:03] <andrewlsd> Hi Xethron
[12:17] <Kilos> hi andrewlsd chesedo 
[12:38] <theblazehen> andrewlsd: Nothing in particular
[12:42] <chesedo> andrewlsd: yes mini meeting
[12:45] <chesedo> for the edu project i just got a pubsweet test setup and it seems disappointing -> pubsweet.chesedo.me
[12:46] <chesedo> seems that it is more blog orientated...
[12:47] <andrewlsd> yeah, "powered by Science Blogger" 
[12:48] <andrewlsd> chesedo: you might be interested in Netlify.com
[12:49] <andrewlsd> correcting that to netlifycms.org
[12:50] <andrewlsd> a static site generator, with CI/CD workflows.
[12:53] <chesedo> andrewlsd: interesting
[12:55] <chesedo> i also quite like hugo for static sites and it currently has this -> https://caddyserver.com/docs/hugo
[12:56]  * theblazehen uses caddy for first layer of my reverse proxy, auto ssl. Quite nice
[12:56] <Kilos> and nikola
[12:57] <theblazehen> Yeah. /me is using Nikola for blog at the moment
[12:58] <andrewlsd> theblazehen: who's your caddy
[12:58] <andrewlsd> ;-)
[12:59] <theblazehen> heh
[14:20] <chesedo> so i have to do an assignment (research) on social media for a networking module...
[14:21] <chesedo> and since IRC is the one i use the most, thought i might do 'irc etiquette'
[14:23] <chesedo> has anyone ever observed some etiquette that they thought was quite nice (and possible uncommon)?
[14:23] <chesedo> or just really cool?
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[16:17] <Langjan> Hello all
[16:20] <Langjan> Any news about kilos? I see he's not on line, wondering how he has been.
[16:53] <nsnzero> evening folks
[18:17] <theblazehen> hi nsnzero
[18:18] <nsnzero> good evening theblazehen 
[18:19] <nsnzero> how goes the overthewire games ?
[18:19] <theblazehen> nsnzero: Doing pretty decent
[18:20] <nsnzero> i trying out  semtex - its seems nice and hard
[18:21] <theblazehen> I got stuck on the one, I thought that the mysql server was down or something, as it was supposed to say "This user exists" or "this user doesn't exist", turns out that I should have pasted the text into an editor with syntax hilighting. The echo("this user exists"); etc were commented out... That was a fun one to solve :)
[18:22] <theblazehen> Nice. You've done this kind of stuff before?
[18:23] <nsnzero> i was trying 1 game over telnet - i forgot the name
[18:24] <nsnzero> telehack but its old and not really relevant using i go back in time to the 80's
[18:24] <theblazehen> I need to finish off Natas, and working on http://overthewire.org/wargames/narnia/ currently working on solving level 4. Kinda cool to get quite low level, even if in real life you need to deal with stuff like ASLR, NX memory etc. I'll get there
[18:24] <theblazehen> Not ssh?
[18:24] <theblazehen> Ah
[18:24] <nsnzero> unless*
[18:25] <theblazehen> So, you went straight to the hard challenges? Nice. How far are you on Semtex?
[18:26] <nsnzero> level 0 
[18:26] <nsnzero> never really get into it yet 
[18:27] <theblazehen> nsnzero: Don't you wanna start with an easyish one?
[18:27] <nsnzero> i was doing bandit level then i got bored
[18:27] <theblazehen> Yeah, bandit is easy 
[18:28] <theblazehen> Finished it in a night
[18:28] <theblazehen> Natas, easy until you get a couple levels in
[18:28] <theblazehen> If you're looking for hard, but approachable, go narnia
[18:30] <chesedo> you all ready?
[18:30] <chesedo> Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Mini Meeting - 12 April 2017
[18:30]  * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[18:30] <theblazehen> Yup
[18:30] <chesedo> Hi all and welcome to the mini meeting
[18:30] <nsnzero> i will try it out theblazehen - time permitting 
[18:31] <chesedo> feel free to introduce yourself to maaz using 'Maaz: I am <first, last name>'
[18:31] <nsnzero> pardon me - hi chesedo 
[18:31] <theblazehen> Maaz I am Jeandre Le Roux
[18:31] <Maaz> theblazehen: Righto
[18:31] <nsnzero> Maaz: i am nasan zero
[18:31] <Maaz> nsnzero: Done
[18:31] <chesedo> the topics are "News", "Local job openings" and "Education Project"
[18:31] <chesedo> Maaz: topic News
[18:31] <Maaz> Current Topic: News
[18:32] <chesedo> theblazehen: off to you...
[18:32] <theblazehen> Alright
[18:32] <theblazehen> A bit of humor to start off, http://blog.plover.com/Unix/dev-null.html - Restoring /dev/null from backup
[18:33] <theblazehen> A great case of the 500 mile email, https://www.ibiblio.org/harris/500milemail.html
[18:33] <theblazehen> and IP over Avian Carriers, https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2549 
[18:34] <chesedo> lol
[18:34] <chesedo> "restore /dev/null from the tape backups"
[18:34] <theblazehen> http://www.ee.ryerson.ca/~elf/hack/recovery.html Great story about a guy recovering from a rm -rf /, as well as some extra disaster stories at http://www.yak.net/carmen/unix_horror_stories
[18:35] <theblazehen> www.2uo.de/myths-about-urandom/ /dev/random isn't really needed, despite what the man page suggests
[18:36] <theblazehen> https://github.com/apenwarr/sshuttle - When you don't have a proper vpn access, just an ssh jump box, and you don't want to manually forward ports for eg services not ssh, this works great, and ty andrewlsd for linking me to https://pypi.python.org/pypi/sshoot/1.2.5 as well
[18:37] <theblazehen> https://hackernoon.com/how-it-feels-to-learn-javascript-in-2016-d3a717dd577f - Never really managed to get into JavaScript myself
[18:37] <theblazehen> http://anbox.io/ - run android apps on normal Linux
[18:38] <theblazehen> http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cs161/fa08/papers/stack_smashing.pdf Nice intro to some basic buffer overflow exploits kinda, (@nsnzero)
[18:39] <theblazehen> An if anyone's interested in security stuff, http://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit/ is a great basic intro to normal linux stuff
[18:39] <theblazehen> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjtyifWTqmc - Smashing the mainframe for fun and prison time
[18:39] <theblazehen> And if anyone's interested in security stuff, I'd really like to see our ranking increase on https://www.wechall.net/country_ranking/
[18:40] <theblazehen> Some old style stuff, http://www.neocomputer.org/projects/et/ - Improving ET for the atari 2600 and http://www.randomterrain.com/atari-2600-memories-tutorial-andrew-davie-01.html - Atari 2600 Programming for Newbies
[18:40] <theblazehen> Then for actual news,
[18:40] <theblazehen> RHEL 5 is EOL as of 31 March 2017
[18:40] <theblazehen> Ubuntu 17.04 to be released tomorrow
[18:41] <theblazehen> and Canonical to be dropping Unity 8 and Mir
[18:41] <theblazehen> Not news, but I have all reddit comments since 2005 loaded up into elasticsearch, so if anyone has ideas for some interesting data mining stuff I can do, let me know
[18:42] <theblazehen> That's pretty much it from my end
[18:42] <chesedo> wow
[18:42] <chesedo> ty theblazehen
[18:42] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Local Openings and Help
[18:42] <Maaz> Current Topic: Local Openings and Help
[18:42] <nsnzero> good stuff theblazehen 
[18:43] <theblazehen> ty nsnzero
[18:43] <chesedo> theblazehen: do you know how current the LSD jobs are that you shared last time?
[18:45] <chesedo> for now here is the previous list:
[18:45] <chesedo> Senior Linux Administrator / Linux Architect (Jhb) -> http://www.lsd.co.za/senior-linux-administrator--linux-archi
[18:45] <chesedo> Senior JAVA Developer with Middleware Experience (Jhb) -> http://www.lsd.co.za/senior-java-developer-with-middleware-ex
[18:45] <chesedo> Java Middleware Magician (Jhb) -> http://www.lsd.co.za/java-middleware-magician
[18:45] <chesedo> DBA Guru (Jhb) -> http://www.lsd.co.za/dba-guru 
[18:45] <theblazehen> We got 2 new guys, so dba position is filled
[18:45] <chesedo> ah ty
[18:45] <theblazehen> @andrewlsd?
[18:46] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Ubuntu Education
[18:46] <Maaz> Current Topic: Ubuntu Education
[18:46] <chesedo> william is on leave this week afaik...
[18:46] <nsnzero> thats correct chesedo 
[18:47] <chesedo> but i got a pubsweet test up -> pubsweet.chesedo.me
[18:47] <chesedo> and it seems that it is more for blogging...
[18:47] <nsnzero> we were planning to meet this week - but things dont go has planned 
[18:48] <chesedo> although Editorial (https://gitlab.coko.foundation/yannisbarlas/editoria) which uses pubsweet might be better
[18:48] <chesedo> but its setup is failing currently
[18:48] <chesedo> oh ok nsnzero...
[18:48] <chesedo> guess you are also refering to the pcs you have nsnzero
[18:49] <nsnzero> yes - delayed unfortunately 
[18:50] <chesedo> that is it for this week then
[18:50] <chesedo> ty you for the jokes and news theblazehen
[18:50] <chesedo> Maaz: end meeting
[18:50] <Maaz> Meeting Ended
[18:50] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-04-12-18-30-32.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-04-12-18-30-32.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-04-12-18-30-32.html
[18:51] <nsnzero> chesedo: what is pubsweet ? 
[18:52] <chesedo> nsnzero: we thought that it was something like booktype... to aid in the creation and collaboration of books
[18:55] <theblazehen> I haven't really looked at what all that provides, but BookStack
[18:55] <theblazehen> is a really nice wiki based on a book like concept
[18:55] <nsnzero> ok - maybe you can help with this problem - i download / save a lot of web pages is there anything i can use to catalogue the pages for easy reference / searching ?
[18:55] <theblazehen> Might not be what you're looking for, but I thought I'd mention it
[18:55] <theblazehen> Saved as which format?
[18:56] <nsnzero> html / odt / pdf
[18:56] <chesedo> theblazehen: will try it ty
[18:56] <theblazehen> You should be able to run a yacy.net instance over them, search works well enough
[18:58] <nsnzero> i will give it look over 
[19:00] <nsnzero> yacy.net page wont load - borks qupzilla - lol 
[19:01] <theblazehen> https://github.com/yacy/yacy_search_server all you need anyway
[19:02] <theblazehen> And I just spotted https://github.com/fossasia/susper.com - Must be new, /me looks into it
[19:06] <nsnzero> something that search for keywords in a html page and catalogues it in a database would be nice
[19:07] <theblazehen> nsnzero: Yeah, yacy does that too
[19:07] <nsnzero> brilliant 
[19:37] <nsnzero> good night all
[19:55] <theblazehen> Maaz tell nsnzero And if you look at the low level stuff, remember x86 IS LITTLE ENDIAN! And the stack grows _down_!
[19:55] <Maaz> theblazehen: Righto, I'll tell nsnzero on freenode
[19:57] <theblazehen> Then endianness thing really annoys me