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 cyphermox: Is this expected?
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 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/w3WHmlX3/file_2369.jpg
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[00:46] <cyphermox> expected what?
 See the image
[00:46] <cyphermox> oh, look, a screenshot
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[00:47] <cyphermox> you're not online maybe?
 I can't select "Download updates while installing Kubuntu" and there's that odd icon
 Nope, I'm online, just checked
[00:47] <cyphermox> that's a bug
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 Wait... Please don't be a DNS bug...
[00:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_kaddressbook build #18: FAILURE in 4 min 38 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_kaddressbook/18/
 Oh, good. Nevermind on THAT.
[00:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_stable_kmail build #22: FAILURE in 4 min 58 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_stable_kmail/22/
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 cyphermox: What details you need in the bug report?
[00:49] <cyphermox> pretty much just that and you were online at the time
[00:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_stable_kaddressbook build #18: FAILURE in 5 min 52 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_stable_kaddressbook/18/
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 OK. I'll file as soon as I'm done installing.
 Moving on...
 cyphermox: Also doesn't automatically detect my timezone correctly...
 I'll take a screenshot and file a bug for that too.
 Or a pic from here :P
[00:52] <cyphermox> that can be any number of things though; we need your IP to know for sure.
[00:52] <cyphermox> (since its geolocation matters)
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0OyBLzF6/file_2371.jpg
[00:53] <cyphermox> but if you were actually *not* online, then that could explain it.
[00:53] <cyphermox> all this has the hallmarks of either not being online, or maybe the network plugin got broken so that is just baloney
 23.126.150.10 is my public one
[00:54] <mparillo> Are you on a WEP wireless?
 @mparillo, Oh hell no :P
[00:54] <cyphermox> mparillo: that should not matter one bit
 Who in their right mind still uses WEP? But I digress...
 I'm connecting via a wired connection
[00:55] <mparillo> ISTR I could never get the wireless connection page on the installer to work with WEP, and the response was essentially wont fix
[00:56] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: that autodetection looks fine to me; if unaccurate, you should still be in Eastern, no?
[00:56] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[00:56] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_kaccounts-integration build #14: FIXED in 11 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_kaccounts-integration/14/
 I'm in Wisconsin; Central Time Zone.
[00:56] <cyphermox> mparillo: it's not the problem at hand, that's what I mean
[00:56] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: ah
 Unless the stupid ISP is being stupid... I really was against my dad switching to AT&T
[00:57] <cyphermox> mparillo: that said, it's indeed "Won't Fix", as we'll fix this by way or removing that from the installer (since you have NM available to do the authentication properly for you)
[00:57] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: it does point to wisconsin
 OK good
[00:57] <cyphermox> I just failed at figuring that wisconsin was in central and not east.
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 Heh. :)
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[00:59] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: what that tells me is that you're either not really online by ubiquity's guess, or it's thinking you aren't so skipping the part where it asks the interwebz.
 Ah OK, rebooting now
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 *jaw drops to floor*
 cyphermox: DNS problems >______<
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/tzb8gPs2/file_2373.jpg
 Ughhhhhhhhhh
 Someone PLEASE tell me this is JUST my setup
[01:04] <ahoneybun> mm what's the difference between Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Base
[01:05] <cyphermox> base isn't desktop
 cyphermox: I could visit sites on the Live image with Firefox
[01:05] <cyphermox> base is just a tarball with the very minimal installation that makes up Ubuntu; we used to call it Ubuntu Core.
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 But I really hope that this isn't the cause of my problems
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 Rebooting into OEM install now
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[01:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[01:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_stable_kwin build #15: FIXED in 33 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_stable_kwin/15/
 @acheronuk
 @acheronuk latte dock ppa works pretty well
 cyphermox: RIP sddm
 I can't start the process
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/9dYhp97w/file_2375.jpg
 cyphermox: It's an authentication error of some sort
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 I'm calling that a failed test.
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[02:00] <valorie> hi franck_b
[02:00] <valorie> if you look at the /topic you'll see that we're trying to get together packaging docs here: https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/
[02:01] <valorie> this is a pretty slow time of the day in this channel, so perhaps you can look through those and see if they are helpful
[02:04] <cyphermox> well, clearly the oem-config is broke.
[02:04] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: ^
[02:05] <valorie> :(
[02:05] <valorie> only for us, or for everyone?
[02:05] <cyphermox> only for sddm
[02:06] <cyphermox> (well, afaict anyway)
[02:07] <valorie> I wonder how zareason and others who install kubuntu on laptops for sale deal with this
[02:07] <valorie> so far most I have found are shipping the LTS
[02:07] <valorie> which makes sense
[02:07] <cyphermox> yeah, that's what I expect too
[02:08] <cyphermox> especially given that it would have been just as broken in yakkety, I suspect.
[02:11] <cyphermox> otoh, it might even be broken in xenial?!
[02:11] <cyphermox> I see there was an sddm autologin fix (which I did) in xenial
[02:16] <cyphermox> valorie: it could be that the issue exists everywhere but sddm is just less resilient of an inexistant uid
[02:17] <valorie> it is a less-than-perfect choice of DM
[02:17] <cyphermox> looks pretty from here
[02:17] <cyphermox> but I'm not a kde user anymore; haven't been for years
[02:18] <valorie> well, it's great when it works!
[02:18] <cyphermox> hehe
[02:18] <valorie> true for any software
[02:18] <cyphermox> I guess tsimonq2 may be off now
[02:19] <valorie> one of the problems is that SDDM isn't KDE software
[02:19] <valorie> it'
[02:19] <cyphermox> I'll file the oem bug myself, since it will be my job to fix it anyway
[02:19] <valorie> s an independent project
[02:19] <cyphermox> oh look.
[02:20] <cyphermox> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1447144
[02:20] <cyphermox> oh gosh, this looks so bad
[02:21] <valorie> damn
 I'm around, just doing other things
 Cable management rat's nest :P
 cyphermox ^
[02:23] <cyphermox> ah, I thought bedtime; I'm nearing on that myself.
 Bah I don't have a bedtime :P
[02:23] <cyphermox> OTOH, I might just stay up until I see infinity come back online, depends
 Plus I'm wired on Red Bull
 OK, I know he's at a sprint in London at the moment...
[02:23] <cyphermox> yes
[02:24] <cyphermox> I was left behind ;)
[02:24] <valorie> that is very bad for your brain, dude
 @cyphermox, Aww
 @valorie, Maybe kinda bad
[02:24] <cyphermox> valorie: the Red Bull or staying up?
[02:24] <valorie> sleep is good for ya
 I don't drink Red Bull often though sooo
[02:24] <valorie> red bull is nasty, but tastes differ
[02:25] <cyphermox> nasty is a reasonable description of something that looks and tastes like what I expect motor oil tastes like.
[02:25] <cyphermox> like like likely like.
 Hahahahahaha
[02:28] <cyphermox> now to check that yakkety also has this oem issue.
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[02:48] <cyphermox> valorie: as I suspected, this affects everyone it looks like, it's just that sddm can't handle the user missing, while lightdm looks like it can
[02:48] <cyphermox> I guess gdm3 can too, but it might not, and I'm not sure anybody tests it
[02:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_stable_messagelib build #24: STILL FAILING in 14 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_stable_messagelib/24/
[02:50] <cyphermox> (IMO they should handle it, but we should also remove the oem bits)
[02:50] <valorie> yay for tsimonq2 finding the big bugs!
[02:53] <cyphermox> yeah that's a pretty nice finding
 :D
 Meanwhile, I'm in cable management hell :P
 Why didn't I do this a month ago, whyy
 Lol
 But cyphermox, I really appreciate you taking the time to see this through :)
[02:58] <valorie> me too
[02:58] <valorie> long-standing, deep bug
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[03:03] <cyphermox> I'm a little bothered I didn't think of this earlier, seems obvious in retrospect
[03:06] <valorie> well
[03:06] <valorie> one of these days we'll all be perfect, right?
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 Lol maybe :P
[03:15] <cyphermox> I'll settle for "do better QA" ;)
[03:16] <cyphermox> it's not anyone's fault, we just don't have very thorough test cases or plans for checking these things
 How can these be implemented? Just autopkgtest in the package and regular manual QA, or is there more?
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[03:26] <wxl> do i read we may have the oem bug solved?
[03:26] <valorie> cyphermox is working on it, wxl
[03:26] <wxl> yay cyphermox 
[03:26] <valorie> indeed!
[03:27] <valorie> just-in-time bugfixing!
[03:27]  * wxl slides cyphermox a (promise from tsimonq2 that some day in the future, when he's old enough he'll buy you a) beer
[03:28] <valorie> lol
 Hahahahahaha lol
[03:29] <wxl> you still got testing hat on, tsimonq2 ?
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0ELkKfNI/file_2377.jpg Maaaaaaybe. :P
 Why?
 I mean, I need to sleep SOMETIME but hey, if you got something specific, shoot and I'll see what I can do
[03:31] <wxl> oh well there's more tests to be done on kubuntu
 wxl ^
 Oh
[03:32] <wxl> if you've still got an install around, amd64 auto-resize needs done
[03:32] <wxl> and i386 needs lvm/encryption + auto-resize + oem
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 First give me a sec to mark this OEM thing as fail and link cyphermox's bug
 Can't do i386 tonight, sorry.
[03:33] <wxl> k
 But I'll only have time for a test or two tonight, wxl
 Sorry
[03:34] <wxl> k
 k
 cyphermox: Still no option to download updates while the installer is going
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 wxl: Auto-resize amd64 lgtm 👍
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[04:43] <wxl> um https://share.riseup.net/#kpC2GLxkE0o0mMjdlyClpg
[04:43] <wxl> no one, assumedly has had GRUB issues?
[04:43] <valorie> yikes
 Nope, not for me
[04:44] <valorie> I've not had any for years
 Eeeeeeek
[04:44] <wxl> well this is with i386 fwiw
 wxl: Once you track down the issue, I'd highly suggest pinging Adam.
[04:44] <valorie> is sda the correct drive?
[04:44] <wxl> um
[04:44] <wxl> actually md5sums seem wrong
[04:44] <wxl> which is weird
[04:45] <valorie> my last problem was when grub was installed, but on the install media!
[04:45] <wxl> i got this with zsync!
 @wxl, O_____O
[04:45] <valorie> and it is still a bug -- someone had it the other day
[04:45] <valorie> in #kubuntu
[04:45] <wxl> maybe the md5sum is wrong
[04:45] <wxl> lemme check shas
[04:46] <wxl> they're all wrong
[04:46] <wxl> arr
 I need sleep now. Keep me updated please
[04:50] <valorie> sweet dreams, tsimonq2
[04:58] <wxl> yep bad iso
[04:59] <valorie> stinky iso
[05:00] <wxl> hah now the desktop looks right too XD
[05:02] <wxl> it's interesting that it keeps wanting to geolocate me (on riseup vpn) outside of the pnw
[05:02] <valorie> excellent!
[05:02] <valorie> ha, vpn workin'
[05:02] <wxl> guess so XD
[05:03] <wxl> speaking of pnw https://www.instagram.com/p/BSzzS_0gDwC/?taken-by=polka.bike
[05:03] <valorie> oh nice photo
[05:04] <wxl> yeah not too bad for a quickie
[05:04] <wxl> those just sprung up out of nowhere
[05:04] <wxl> i spotted an iris or orchid of some kind i need to check out tomorrow
[05:04] <valorie> if it's swampy, probably an early iris
[05:05] <wxl> yeah it was all on its own
[05:05] <wxl> which is rare
[05:05] <valorie> there are tiny orchids in the woods around the cabin
[05:05] <wxl> even those bog saxifrage, while few and far between, weren't alone
[05:05] <wxl> i just realized rattlesnake plaintain is an orchid today
[05:05] <wxl> never seen it flower
[05:05] <valorie> huh!
[05:05] <valorie> I never knew that either
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[05:06] <valorie> it was really cool to see orchids on nearly every tree I walked up to in Kazirainga
[05:06] <valorie> not in bloom yet though
[05:06] <valorie> I bet it is spectacular when they are
[05:07] <wxl> downy but still https://goo.gl/images/tepscI
[05:07] <valorie> gorgous
[05:07] <wxl> you got to get REAALLY close to tell it's an orchid :)
[05:08] <wxl> i had a prof who was karok and he told us about rattlesnake plantain and that it's very rare. i see it like every time i go in the woods XD
[05:08] <wxl> still, never seen it flower, though.
[05:09] <wxl> i about pissed myself a year or so back when i found a little orchid
[05:10] <wxl> https://twitter.com/wxl/status/602621554195726336
[05:10] <valorie> gotta get you and your bike up to the cabin, man
[05:10] <wxl> i'm down with that
[05:10] <valorie> and your family of course
[05:10] <wxl> naturally :)
[05:11] <valorie> if the world doesn't blow up first
[05:11]  * wxl sighds
[05:12] <wxl> i don't know. christina said to me that she thought you-know-who was finally acting like a legitimate leader for once
[05:13] <valorie> reality bites -- and maybe makes even the worst "leaders" into better leaders
[05:13] <wxl> yeah i guess for me it's hard to look past all the intrigue and drama and just outright misinformation and poor behavior
[05:14] <wxl> i'm not ready to call him "good," but maybe at least he's TRYING to act the part
[05:14] <valorie> very difficult, since the press follows the shiny
[05:14] <valorie> maybe
[05:15] <wxl> is there a camus county in washington?
[05:15] <valorie> good leadership involves setting good policy and then following up on that
[05:16] <valorie> no, there is a town of Camus
[05:16] <wxl> ah
[05:16] <wxl> i'm going over my purchases from last year to glean all the health stuff for taxes (yeah, i know. i am ALWAYS the first one done if that gives you any idea how bad things have been) and i just saw a purchase for camus something and thought of that
[05:17] <wxl> it's actually https://camas.squarespace.com/
[05:17] <valorie> nice name!
[05:18] <valorie> I've never actually eaten camus
[05:18] <wxl> ah don't be fooled
[05:18] <wxl> they call it camus because we're in wetlands but there's like no camus to be found :)
[05:18] <wxl> they're a mill
[05:18] <wxl> they have the best flour ever
[05:18] <wxl> i've never had camus either, frankly
[05:20] <wxl> i guess deathcamus are white. i only ever see the purple ones
[05:21] <valorie> I wouldn't eat one from anyone but a native woman
[05:21] <valorie> who liked me
[05:21] <valorie> lol
[05:21] <wxl> pretty darn sure this is the one i always see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camassia_quamash
[05:22] <wxl> pit-cooked; tastes like sweet potato but sweeter
[05:22] <wxl> inulin can cause copious flatulence :)
[05:24] <wxl> oh hm, it may be Camassia leichtlinii we get
[05:24] <wxl> will have to ID when they start popping up again
[05:24] <valorie> I do love spring
[05:24] <wxl> me too
[05:25] <valorie> along with all the dandelions I'm hunting daily, I see so much else
[05:25] <valorie> just in my yard
[05:25] <wxl> hehehheeh you don't need to hunt the dandelions very hard :)
[05:26] <valorie> no, all I need to do is look for a minute to see 5
[05:26] <valorie> or 10
[05:26] <valorie> until my back aches
[05:26] <valorie> lol
[05:26] <wxl> heheheh
[05:26] <wxl> you observing or using?
[05:29] <valorie> composting
[05:30] <wxl> ah
[05:30] <valorie> I like them as flowers, but not in the yard
[05:31] <wxl> well they make decent greens
[05:31] <wxl> and there's always dandelion wine
[05:31] <valorie> true
[05:31] <wxl> could probably treat the roots like chicory too but that's kind my sort of thing
[05:31] <valorie> Bob's dad made some, years ago
[05:31] <wxl> what did it taste like?
[05:32] <valorie> wxl: if I decide to use the greens, I'm sure I will continue to be able to find 'em!
[05:32] <wxl> hahahahahah
[05:32] <wxl> i don't like them that much
[05:32] <valorie> it was a nice dessert wine
[05:32] <wxl> they're a little too bitter for my tastes
[05:32] <wxl> now watercress on the other hand... YUMMY
[05:32] <valorie> I don't like sweet wine that much
[05:32] <valorie> oh god, I miss watercress
[05:32] <wxl> oh, heh, duh. i guess it *IS* wine, isn't it. nevermind that idea XD
[05:32] <valorie> used to grow in masses in the creek where I grew up
[05:33] <wxl> our CSA grows it
[05:33] <valorie> my dad used to rake it out occasionally but it always grew back
[05:33] <wxl> well it is a "weed"
[05:33] <valorie> yup
[05:34] <valorie> delicious peppery weed
[05:34] <wxl> SO delicious
[05:34] <wxl> aw i just hit november
[05:34] <wxl> YO] ZUSHI YO] ZUSHI SEATTLE WA DBT PURCHASE ON 11/11 @ 10:04
[05:34] <wxl> :)
[05:35] <valorie> that's my mama's bday
[05:35] <wxl> that's when we ate sushi with ahoneybun 
[05:36] <valorie> that was a decent place
[05:36] <wxl> it wasn't horrendous
[05:37] <acheronUK> offtopic?
[05:37] <valorie> oops
[05:37] <acheronUK> morning :)
[05:37] <acheronUK> sorry
[05:37] <valorie> hi acheronUK
[05:38] <wxl> yes, it's offtopic
[05:38] <wxl> now get to testing, damnit
[05:38] <wxl> !language | wxl
[05:39] <valorie> ha
[05:39] <acheronUK> tsimonq2: I you select install updates while installing on all I've done so far I think?
[05:39] <acheronUK> *I could
[05:39] <wxl> ditto here
[05:40] <wxl> cyphermox: this may be a dumb question, but do we expect to see the fix for oem land this cycle?
[05:40] <acheronUK> though often it doesn't actually seems to make much difference and I have to install shed loads of updates right after install
[05:41] <acheronUK> back in 5 mins
[05:41]  * acheronUK fetches coffee
[05:44] <cyphermox> wxl: I don't think so, unless we're forced to respin for something else
[05:44] <cyphermox> I wouldn't respin for that
[05:44] <wxl> okie dokie
[05:45] <cyphermox> (moreover, it was already broken in yakkety, this isn't a regression)
[05:45] <wxl> didn't think so but i couldn't tell in light of tsimonq2's excitement
[05:46] <cyphermox> wxl: I'd fix it early though, so we don't need to think of it again, it's on my todo list in launchpad
[05:46] <acheronUK> he's probably had a redbull or something else with caffeine or sugar :P
[05:46] <wxl> um is openSUSE's default DE KDE???
[05:46] <wxl> k thx cyphermox 
[05:47] <acheronUK> wxl: yes. well what gets offered by default I think
[05:47] <wxl> 2 of the three "bleeding edge" linucies mentioned here are kde http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/linux-operating-systems-bleeding-edge-updates/
[06:09] <wxl> ok that's all i have in me for tonight
[06:09] <wxl> someone needs to do i386 oem
[06:10] <wxl> it will probably fail but why not
[06:10] <wxl> i think i'll just mark everything ready
[06:10] <acheronUK> always fails on VB, which is all I can do for that
[06:11] <wxl> yeah
[06:11] <wxl> cyphermox is on it anyways
[06:11] <wxl> we need to make sure to put something in release notes but i guess we'll discuss that tomorrow. mayber cyphermox can advise.
[06:11] <wxl> i'm hitting the hay
[06:12] <acheronUK> wxl: ok. good night. thank you :)
[06:12] <wxl> night and thank YOU @acheronUK :)
[06:12] <valorie> wxl: niters
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[06:21] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:11] <sheytan> Hey hey hey! Is it ready yet? :D
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 @ahoneybun, good :) really is testing builds though, so I may update that with git snapshots, or even reove it at some point.
[10:14] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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 @wxl, I'm an exciting person. :P
 @acheronUK, I had a total of 3 Red Bull last night, and completely reorganized and cable managed my room. Caffeine is fun. :P
 *face palms*
 @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie, Lol
[12:25] <mamarley> Better be careful, if you consume too much caffeine, you could injure yourself!
 I'm aware. They were the smallest Red Bulls. I got a 4 pack for the night. :P
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[12:31] <sheytan_> Heya
[12:31] <sheytan_> when can I upgrade?
[12:33] <martin___>  wow i came here to ask the same question, when is the 17.04 version available 
[12:40] <lordievader> It is available when the anouncement is made, see the announcement mailing list.
[12:41] <acheronUK> and in ubuntu's hands, not ours
[12:42] <acheronUK> mirrors need to sync, switches flipped, emails sent......
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 IT'S HEREEEEEE
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[13:12] <IrcsomeBot1> * acheronuk checks release file
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[13:24] <clivejo> acheronUK: KCI was displaying warnings about installed plugin's, so I updated them
[13:25] <acheronUK> clivejo: ah. wondered if it was the 'poxy' one
[13:26] <clivejo> not sure
[13:26] <clivejo> I was rushing to get out the door at the time and just upgraded them
[13:27] <acheronUK> still there "It appears that your reverse proxy set up is broken."
[13:28] <clivejo> no, these were exploit fixes
[13:30] <clivejo> this was one of them https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Email-ext+plugin
[13:31] <clivejo> lots of red writing
[13:35] <clivejo> has zesty been released?
[13:37] <clivejo> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/zesty/release/ ?
[13:39] <clivejo> anyone?!?
[13:53] <clivejo> hi blaze
[13:53] <blaze> hi clivejo 
[13:53] <clivejo> Happy release day!
[13:54] <blaze> yay, congrats!
[13:54] <clivejo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu
[13:54] <clivejo> social media icons are missing
[13:55] <BluesKaj> good
[13:55] <clivejo> acheronUK: ^
[14:01] <clivejo> ok think thats fixed
[14:02] <blaze> :p
[14:02] <clivejo> have we a news post ready to go?
[14:02] <clivejo> blaze would you mind double checking for me?
[14:03] <blaze> where are those icons?
[14:03] <clivejo> links, downloads etc on http://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/
[14:03] <clivejo> they have to be attached to the document
[14:03] <martin___> media icon is fixed  yes
[14:04] <clivejo> I kinda though someone would have drafted a release post ready to go :(
[14:05] <BluesKaj> not much action on my install 
[14:05] <acheronUK> you would think
[14:06] <acheronUK> BluesKaj: action?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> upgrades
[14:07] <acheronUK> BluesKaj: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release
[14:08] <acheronUK> no zesty yet
[14:08] <acheronUK> I *think* that's where release upgrader etc looks
[14:08] <BluesKaj> already on zesty, that's my point
[14:09] <acheronUK> oh, well in that case, no :P
[14:10] <BluesKaj> right, no change from yesterday
[14:14] <clivejo> hi soee
[14:15] <clivejo> anyone with a good gasp of English up for writing a news/blog post for Zesty?
[14:15] <soee> hiho clivejo
[14:17] <sheytan_> it's still not available in Poland :(
[14:18] <clivejo> takes a while for mirrors to sync
[14:20] <sheytan_> I know, but i need it now :D
 @clivejo, I can if it isn't done within the next 6 hours.
[14:21] <clivejo> well we are expecting an official announcement soon
[14:21] <clivejo> like in the next few hours
 @clivejo, The official announcement has already been sent
 @clivejo, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2017-April/000220.html
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[16:00] <mparillo> Congratulations Kubuntu Team.
[16:04] <clivejo> thanks mparillo, and you are part of that team :)
[16:05] <BluesKaj> still no change from yesterday's upgrades here, all packages are up to date
[16:06] <clivejo> there might be fixes going in
[16:06] <BluesKaj> release day is usually anticlimactic for me :-)
[16:07] <mparillo> Right, BluesKaj. Often zsync finds no changes from the last release candidate.
[16:08] <mparillo> Thanks clivejo
[16:10] <wxl> ok morning everyone
[16:10] <wxl> what did i miss?
[16:10] <mparillo>  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2017-April/000220.html Now everybody will crush the servers and then try installations differently from the way we tested them.
[16:11] <mparillo> But it did look like tsimonq2 did not take all the defaults and he found some paper-cuts.
[16:11] <wxl> mparillo: hm?
[16:12] <clivejo> tsimonq2 not taking defaults
[16:12] <clivejo> that doesnt sound like him at all!
[16:13] <mparillo> In other words, when I test the ISOs, I tend to take the defaults. So, the 'happy path' is well-rehearsed. For example, yesterday tsimonq2 tried to download updates while installing, and might have found a bug (or maybe it was his DNS server after all).
 @clivejo, Lol you know me! :P
[16:14] <wxl> so i guess it's official that we are going to be aa next cycle
 Wait WOT?
[16:15] <clivejo> names of fruits
[16:15] <wxl> @tsimonq2: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2017-April/001210.html
 LOLLLLLL
[16:16] <wxl> yeah
[16:17] <wxl> i bet it would have been a REALLY funny email if it weer cyphermox. he was up laaaaate. seems like adam went to bed early XD
 @wxl, Adam's in London for a sprint... Sooo :P
[16:21] <clivejo> looks to be some missing images on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZestyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[16:22] <acheronUK> clivejo: waiting to see if discover will show me an update button for 17.04
[16:22] <clivejo> ah
[16:24] <BluesKaj> acheronUK:  don't hold your breath, that muon discover is hopeless IMO 
[16:25] <BluesKaj> hope no one is insulted by that statement , it's an opinion on my part
[16:26] <acheronUK> I have a feeling it won't, which is why I put the alternative way in more detail this time
[16:27] <wxl> yeah there's no such attachments https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZestyUpgrades/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile
[16:27] <BluesKaj> ok ,stuff to do for a while...bbl
[16:28] <acheronUK> wxl: not made them yet
[16:28] <wxl> ok
[16:28] <wxl> anything i can help with?
[16:28] <wxl> (on that or otherwise)
[16:28] <acheronUK> waiting to go through that part of the upgrade in a VM
[16:29] <acheronUK> was the only part I could not simulate forcing an upgrade with -d
[16:33] <acheronUK> wxl added the YY ones for now :P
[16:33] <wxl> hah cheater
[16:34] <wxl> it appears that providing nameservers resolves it
 I wonder if you people will be annoying and label this "AAAA" after the codename is announced :P XD
 OH OMG
 AAA
[16:34] <wxl> ooops wrong channel
 Triple A!
[16:34] <wxl> still check this upgrade issue out
[16:34] <wxl> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2356828
[16:34] <wxl> some discussion in #u-r about maybe doing a SRU
[16:34] <wxl> possibly related to systemd
[16:35] <wxl> someone got some real hardware to test this on?
[16:37] <acheronUK> on have zesty on this PC so far, and no problem like that.
 I've been having this exact problem for a month, wxl
[16:41] <wxl> and you didn't file a bug???
 Nobody listens to me apparently ^__^
 There has been a bug
[16:41] <wxl> where?
 But it's apparently "Fixed"
 Uhh hold on, one sec
 bug 1647031
 wxl ^
[16:42] <wxl> that doesn't look fixed
[16:42] <wxl> or confirmed
[16:43] <wxl> oic
[16:43] <wxl> nevermind
 Yeah dip doo :)
 I vote just not use systemd-resolved until it's stable enough not to break anything
 But apparently release team likes systemd that much ^__^ :P
[16:46] <blaze>  /me hopes that networkd is pretty far in the pipe
[16:48] <blaze> also CNAMEs are working for me
[16:49] <blaze> but DNSSEC isn't
 @blaze, That's systemd-resolved's fault.
 cyphermox: Ping
[17:09] <cyphermox> hello
[17:13] <tsdgeos_> hi
[17:15] <acheronUK> tsimonq2: ^^^
[17:48] <soee> high five to all for ZZ release -.-
[17:50] <mamarley> Yeah, it works really well for me. :)
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[18:16]  * sheytan_ is upgrading :D
[18:16] <clivejo> :)
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[18:28] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[18:34] <ronnoc> Congrats on the ZZ release! Really good to see Kubuntu shining so well this time around.
[18:35] <clivejo> hi ronnoc
[18:35] <clivejo> have you installed it?
[18:39] <ronnoc> Hello. I have not yet. Tried to but a) my testing PC is temporarily out of commission, and b) I can't install virtualization since I haven't reverted yet to a compatible kernel.
[18:40] <ronnoc> I'm getting a separate HD for this PC so I can keep a 'testing to metal' partition, but it's not here yet
[18:48] <wxl> i'd be interested to know if anyone has networking issues. *ahem* sheytan_ ronnoc 
[18:48] <sheytan_> wxl still upgrading. Will  be rebooting in few minutes
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[18:49] <ronnoc> wxl: I should be able to tell from a live session, yes? Should I test wired / wireless / and-or both simultaneously?
[18:50] <wxl> ronnoc: i'm not sure. if you don't have the issues with live, try installed
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[18:59] <wxl> sheytan: ronnoc also if you DO have the problem, try setting nameservers manually (i suggest freedns@37.235.1.174, see https://www.lifewire.com/free-and-public-dns-servers-2626062)
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[19:06] <sheytan_> well, the onlu bug i get is this: http://imgur.com/89coHKf
[19:06] <sheytan_> but this might be nvidia problem
[19:06] <sheytan_> will try to switch back to intel
[19:06] <wxl> yeah. possible
[19:06] <wxl> but networking is just peachy keen? on wireless? wired?
[19:07] <sheytan_> can't test wired, left my RJ45 cable at office
[19:07] <sheytan_> but wireless works amazing
[19:07] <sheytan_> connects even faster
[19:08]  * sheytan_ is going to reboot for intel drivers
[19:11] <sheytan_> back on intel. Works fine again
[19:12] <wxl> yay
[19:13] <sheytan_> and the 2nd screen now works perfectly
[19:13] <sheytan_> finally
[19:15] <clivejo> :)
[19:15] <clivejo> great
[19:22] <ronnoc> so perhaps we're immune to the network bugs being reported on Ubuntu?
[19:22] <wxl> unknown so far
[19:22] <ronnoc> downloading updated iso for testing...
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[19:37] <ahoneybun> https://josephg.com/blog/electron-is-flash-for-the-desktop/
[19:37] <ahoneybun> good article
[19:40] <ronnoc> yea I read that yesterday. I wonder if people would feel differently if the core was Chromium instead of Chrome? Though the point made that devs don't know what their actually deploying would likely still be valid, along with the bloat that's inherent in the platform.
[19:41] <BluesKaj> ther's a guy from the freenode staff telling users to upgrade with do-release-upgrade -d and claims that's proper method even after the OSD is officailly released
[19:41] <BluesKaj> OSD=OS
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[19:54] <krytarik> Holy cow.., could anyone please trim the size of the first image here a bit? :3 - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu
[19:57] <wxl> BluesKaj: i don't know about proper, but do-release-upgrade is  supported and reasonable (that's what server uses).
[19:59] <krytarik> wxl: It's specifically about using the '-d' flag.
[20:00] <wxl> ah yeah
[20:01] <BluesKaj> wxl:  what's funny is the guy wanted to debate me on the matter, i just dismissed him...some ppl constantly need to be correct, and want to debate 
[20:03] <BluesKaj> anyway, gonna call it a day ...later , take care
[20:10] <valorie> got all my torrents seeding -- the new budgie one seems in demand
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[20:12] <wxl> surprise surprise
[20:13] <wxl> i'm surprised ubuntu gnome isn't XD
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[20:32] <valorie> gnome is up there, yeah
[20:32] <valorie> also: dkms just got pushed out
[20:33] <valorie> wasn't there an hour ago
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[20:41] <ronnoc> ok going to test. bbl :)
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[20:58] <acheronUK> surprise surprise softpedia jumps to conclusions once again and gets it wrong
[20:58] <acheronUK> http://news.softpedia.com/news/kubuntu-17-04-debuts-with-kde-plasma-5-9-and-folder-view-from-plasma-5-10-more-514863.shtml
[20:59] <acheronUK> It's not "new folder view" "from 5.10". just switching of the default to that.
[21:06] <valorie> hopefully they fix the story, but nice timing from you guys getting in the first comments
[21:08] <acheronUK> yep. it's got some improvements in 5.9, just not the ones they are promoting!
[21:08] <ronnoc> OK initial tests showed 2 issues: wireless (blah) was not recognized. Nic's LED never lights. Seems to echo other's issues. Same chip works in 16.04. Hardware: https://paste.kde.org/pvif2wyjq
[21:09] <ronnoc> Only other issue: Contact Theme Print app crashes on close
[21:09] <ronnoc> The non-print version does not
[21:12]  * ronnoc doesn't even know what that app does ^
[21:13] <clivejo> never heard of it
[21:13] <ronnoc> It was installed by default under the 'internet' section. No manual included.
[21:15] <acheronUK> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1336785
[21:15] <acheronUK> part of kaddressbook?
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[21:17] <ronnoc> no idea :/
[21:19] <acheronUK> right. part of the old monolithic kdepim
[21:19] <acheronUK> if that is all that crashes from that, then I'd say a win!
[21:22] <ronnoc> lol indeed. Everything else tested worked fine :) (except wireless, but that's an Ubuntu kernel issue...)
[21:22] <valorie> ronnoc: there is still some discussion about wireless in #ubuntu-devel and -release
[21:23] <valorie> this was an upgrade or clean install?
[21:23] <ronnoc> which seems to be related to DNS as wxl mentioned above AFAICT
[21:23] <ronnoc> valorie: neither just a live session dry run...
[21:23] <acheronUK> I'm mildly surprised that the old PIM works at all, since we could not get the new lot in. For once it actually seems resilient.
[21:24] <valorie> ok
[21:24] <valorie> I guess not in -devel, just -release
[21:37] <ronnoc> valorie: as far as the networking issue?
[21:37] <valorie> yes
[21:38] <valorie> it seems to be an issue or issues with resolved
[21:38] <valorie> part of systemd
[21:39] <valorie> dnssec and nameservers -- some have partially solved by changing nameservers
[21:44] <ronnoc> I see. Obviously a regression of some kind. A quick search of bugs.freedesktop.org turned up nothing under systemd. Wonder if it's Ubuntu-specific?
[21:47] <valorie> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1647031 is one BR
[21:50] <ronnoc> valorie: OK. My issue is different. My wireless NIC was not operational under 17.04, although it works fine on 16.04...
[21:50] <valorie> hmmm
[21:50] <valorie> have you tried to file a bug?
[21:51] <ronnoc> Been searching relevant reports before filing
[21:52] <valorie> I've not heard other reports of this
[21:55] <mparillo> ronnoc: Does it work on a live USB?
[21:56] <ronnoc> mparillo: no I think it's a kernel issue - the LED never comes on, indicating that the driver is not present.
[21:58] <ronnoc> re-checked on a 16.04 live USB and worked fine.
[21:58] <valorie> run ubuntu-drivers?
[21:58] <acheronUK> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/lubuntu-17-04-beat-and-skype-4175602242/
[21:58] <acheronUK> but maybe coincidental and not quite it
[21:59] <mparillo> Hmm, not that I would have the ability to try, but can you downgrade your kernel?
[22:00] <valorie> $ sudo ubuntu-drivers devices or so?
[22:02] <ronnoc> let me investigate further...I use a different DNS on my router than from my ISP and acheronUK made me think of a few things to try. I'll be back.
[22:03] <ronnoc> valorie: I'll try that as well. But if no one else is having wireless issues I'd chalk it up to 'something' unique to me atm.
[22:04] <valorie> if you think you are lacking a driver, ubuntu-drivers is your friend
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[22:06] <ronnoc> valorie: I agree, but never needed to run that for the r8712u chipset in the past; so if so, that's a new one.
[22:06] <ronnoc> as of 17.04
[22:06] <valorie> and IMO that would be a bug
[22:06] <ahoneybun> valorie: Driver Manager is also an option
[22:07] <valorie> a better one, if it works!
[22:07] <ronnoc> acheronUK: After reading all three pages of that post, the issue was never resolved. The user went back to 16.10 and the problem vanished...which after re-testing the 16.04 live image, I can validate.
[22:08] <ahoneybun> it does
[22:08] <clivejo> it should work
[22:09] <ronnoc> ok let me see if that helps...BRB
[22:10] <acheronUK> ronnoc: assuming it's kernel, and not something else, instead of just going back to previous release, a better way would be to find what kernel releasee it broke on
[22:11] <acheronUK> could be the initial pull for 4.10 or 4.9, or somewhere in later changes
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[22:21] <ronnoc> OK on the live 17.04 session. Driver Manager says I don't need any drivers, as suspected. No light on the NIC. In 16.04 and in Neon, the NIC lights on boot. Still inclined to think it's an Ubuntu-specific kernel issue. 
[22:23] <ronnoc> or rather...a 17.04-specific kernel issue
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[22:29] <acheronUK> sounds plausible. can you try other kernels in zesty?
[22:29] <acheronUK> mainline, or yakkety kernel, etc
[22:33] <ronnoc> acheronUK: I can, yes. At present I can confirm that the nic works with the 4.10.x mainline kernel...as I've tried that already
[22:35] <ronnoc> runing 'sudo lshw' finds the nic, however querying the driver via 'lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net; uname -r; ls /lib/firmware/ | grep 'iwlwifi-7265d' only sees the wired connection.
[22:35] <wxl> !info linux-generic zesty
[22:35] <acheronUK> sounds bug worthy against the ubuntu kernal then
[22:37] <ronnoc> Yupp. I'll go back and test both the mainline 4.10.0 kernel and the 4.10.10 to see if it's ever-present, then report.
[22:37] <ronnoc> although that's just for completeness-sake
[22:39] <wxl> good job ronnoc 
[22:39] <wxl> i guess bug 1681513 is another one we need to potentially look out for
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