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| Laney | nacc: bdmurray: Got a new idea... | 11:00 |
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| Laney | attached | 11:28 |
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| nacc | Laney: nice catch, i think that's pretty reasonable | 14:30 |
| Scars | So I was just reading on here: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/udd-intro.html | 15:01 |
| Scars | Are you telling me this is dead? | 15:01 |
| rbasak | Correct. | 15:02 |
| ogra_ | udd never really came to life actually | 15:02 |
| rbasak | We're making good progress on a git-based replacement though | 15:02 |
| Scars | Any alternative yet? Or any other way to learn how to contribute? | 15:02 |
| ogra_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | perhaps ? | 15:03 |
| rbasak | We can give you a usable git repo on request. | 15:03 |
| rbasak | Or you can do it the non-VCS way. | 15:03 |
| nacc | Scars: how comfortable are you with debian / ubuntu packaging? | 15:03 |
| nacc | Scars: so it's not strictly required (although helpful) to fix issues | 15:06 |
| nacc | there is some overview here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging/GitWorkflow, but it needs some updating again | 15:07 |
| Scars | Im completely new | 15:07 |
| nacc | Scars: i'm on a call right now, but can help give you a guide in a few, if that's ok | 15:07 |
| jackpot51 | Laney: Do you need more testing on the DKMS patch? | 15:09 |
| jackpot51 | I could test the NVIDIA package | 15:09 |
| lan3y | More is good. | 15:09 |
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| xnox_ | sladen, cyphermox: in the latest debian upload pitti is disabling DNSSEC in resolved by default (include zesty) | 16:03 |
| xnox_ | because the support is not mature enough..... | 16:03 |
| xnox_ | sladen, unping | 16:03 |
| xnox_ | slangasek, ^ | 16:03 |
| xnox_ | should I pick that up into zesty SRU?! | 16:03 |
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| cyphermox | xnox_: I'd tentatively say yes? | 16:07 |
| cyphermox | it tends to break things | 16:08 |
| slangasek | xnox_: there are certainly outstanding issues with dnssec, though I don't know if anyone ever filed a proper bug report; I'd say we need some sort of dnssec fix srued, yes | 16:09 |
| xnox_ | slangasek, the bit where it cannot validate things and internets not working is what concerns me | 16:10 |
| xnox_ | also pitti's commit in the debian's git doesn't mention a specific bug report/reports so it's a general statement. | 16:10 |
| slangasek | xnox_: the last information I had on this is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1647031/comments/33 | 16:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1647031 in systemd "systemd-resolved’s 127.0.0.53 server does not follow CNAME records" [Unknown,New] | 16:11 |
| * xnox_ feels like it should be cherrypicked into zesty. | 16:11 | |
| xnox_ | but that one is fixed. | 16:11 |
| xnox_ | i thought | 16:11 |
| xnox_ | (the following bit) | 16:11 |
| xnox_ | things like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1672235 ? | 16:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1672235 in systemd (Ubuntu) "zesty switch from dnsmasq caused lookup errors, DNSSEC validation failed: no-signature" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:13 |
| slangasek | xnox_: bug #1647031 was fixed but that bug wasn't about dnssec, the dnssec was pile-on comments. if there's a separate bug filed, ok good | 16:19 |
| ubottu | bug 1647031 in systemd "systemd-resolved’s 127.0.0.53 server does not follow CNAME records" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1647031 | 16:19 |
| xnox_ | ah | 16:20 |
| jbicha | I saw comments today from people upgrading to 17.04 and having network problems | 16:29 |
| jbicha | is this something you're considering doing a 0-day SRU for? | 16:30 |
| wxl | where's the bug number? | 16:30 |
| jbicha | some comments on http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/ubuntu-17-04-review-new-features | 16:31 |
| jbicha | https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2356828 | 16:32 |
| wxl | i'd encourage them to make a bug report | 16:32 |
| wxl | i'm sure with enogh activity something would get done | 16:32 |
| jbicha | wxl: I believe that's what's being talked about with systemd ^ | 16:32 |
| wxl | oh. harumph | 16:33 |
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| ilmaisin | xnox_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1642966 did you notice this? the change in your patch wasn't enough for xenial, it probably is necessary to reload systemd configuration in the post-installl script also | 17:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1642966 in cups (Ubuntu Xenial) "package cups-daemon 2.1.3-4 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [High,Triaged] | 17:37 |
| ilmaisin | xnox_: however if it is the old package's preremoval script that fails it probably does not matter what there is in the new package's scripts | 17:42 |
| infinity | Reloading systemd from packages should never be necessary. | 17:43 |
| infinity | systemd has a dpkg trigger for this very prupose. | 17:43 |
| infinity | purpose, too. | 17:43 |
| ilmaisin | infinity: hmm | 17:44 |
| ilmaisin | infinity: if you can tell what's wrong with the update i'll be grateful | 17:45 |
| infinity | I'm having a hard time following the bug comments to see that anything's wrong with it at all. :P | 17:45 |
| infinity | Ahh, found it. | 17:46 |
| infinity | So, if old prerm is failing on a bad unit, then new prerm is attempted. New prerm should be written in a way that it skips/ignores the failure. | 17:47 |
| infinity | ilmaisin: Informed xnox of the above (he's right next to me) | 17:49 |
| ilmaisin | infinity: thx | 17:50 |
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| ilmaisin | xnox_: the root cause of the problem seems to be that if there is a stuck job, "invoke-rc.de cups stop" fails | 20:18 |
| ilmaisin | xnox_: this probably means that we can't have any updates to cups now, not even critical security updates | 20:19 |
| DPK_ | not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but i've been pulling my hair out lately trying to preseed/config a ubuntu install w/ a custom internal mirror of security.ubuntu.com -- the problem is our internal mirror is https | 20:48 |
| DPK_ | i'm trying to figure out how to override that in preseed config | 20:48 |
| DPK_ | initially i have just this: | 20:49 |
| DPK_ | d-i apt-setup/services-select multiselect security | 20:49 |
| DPK_ | d-i apt-setup/security_host string internal.mirror.net | 20:49 |
| DPK_ | d-i apt-setup/security_path string /current/security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu | 20:49 |
| DPK_ | but i can't figure out how to configure it such that it'll be https://internal.etc instead of http://internal.etc | 20:49 |
| xnox_ | DPK_, there is one more key for protocol i think | 21:15 |
| xnox_ | but i can't remember if we ask that for security too, let me check quickly | 21:15 |
| xnox_ | (cause we support http, ftp, https) | 21:16 |
| xnox_ | DPK_, ha, we do not it is hardcoded to http | 21:17 |
| xnox_ | for the security | 21:17 |
| xnox_ | DPK_, i think you may need to apply sed to either generators/91security during install; or in the install hook; or post install. | 21:18 |
| xnox_ | DPK_, could you please open a bug report against apt-setup requesting to support apt-setup/security_protocol key? | 21:18 |
| xnox_ | (cause e.g. for regular mirrors protocol question is a thing that is supported) | 21:19 |
| DPK_ | @xnox sure will do | 21:59 |
| udevbot | Error: "xnox" is not a valid command. | 21:59 |
| dobey | heh | 22:00 |
| dobey | bots | 22:00 |
| jbicha | I guess LP: #1681513 is another reason why some people are having network trouble after the update | 22:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1681513 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu GNOME 17.04 beta: wi-fi not working — mac address keeps changing?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1681513 | 22:34 |
| wxl | jbicha: someone here in #kubuntu-devel has the problem and tested with the 4.10.x mainline kernel and problem is solved. not sure it's the same thing. there might be multiple issues. | 22:36 |
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