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lotuspsychjegood morning to all04:51
lordievaderGood morning06:21
lotuspsychjebbl guys shopping day06:26
ducassehi all06:28
lordievaderHey ducasse06:28
lordievaderHow are you?06:28
ducassegood thanks, how about you?06:29
lordievaderDoing good here :)06:32
ducassegreat :) just drinking tea and catching up on mail here, having a quiet day in :)06:35
ducassewhat's the best way to find out why a package was removed in zesty, when it's probably not going to be listed in the release notes?06:37
lordievaderErr, its launchpad page?06:39
ducasseah, right - i didn't see the 'a newer version is available' thingy :) early in the morning here...06:42
BluesKajHiyas all10:14
OerHeksheya BluesKaj :-D10:14
OerHeksjust in time for 17.04 release10:14
BluesKajhi oer10:14
BluesKajhi OerHeks10:15
BluesKajsuppose there's a release party chat...haven't bothered checking10:31
BluesKajyup, but only 44 visitors arm10:34
BluesKajatm10:34
ducassethere were more people there when xenial and yakkety was released, iirc10:35
ducassemorning, BluesKaj10:36
BluesKaj'Morning ducasse10:36
BluesKajonly one upgrade this morning10:37
ikevinwhy does people are impatient about 17.04?10:43
ducasseit's always this way10:43
lordievader^ that10:44
lordievaderEvery release, all over again.10:44
ikevinthere not a lot of change from 16.10 and 17.0410:44
BluesKajikevin:  I'm already testing 17.04, looking to finish it now ;-010:45
ducasseikevin: no, just small stuff - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes10:45
ikevinducasse, i know, that why i tell "not a lot of change"10:45
ikevinthe only thing i like in 17.04 is swap file10:46
ikevinso, in my case, i use swap file for a while10:47
ikevini prefer to wait to upgrade10:47
BluesKajwhat's different about a swap file than any other OS?10:48
ikevinno difference, swap file is swap file10:49
BluesKajexactly10:49
lordievaderHaving a swap file is an very old option, is it not?10:57
lordievaderAh, it is the default nowadays?10:58
lordievaderI wonder why... does someone know the reasoning behind it?10:58
ducasseeasier to modify than resizing partitions, perhaps.11:01
lordievaderThat is true I suppose.11:10
ducasseyou would still need a partition to hibernate on an encrypted system, right?11:12
lordievaderYes, I think so. Sounds a bit of trying to unlock a car with the keys to unlock the car inside.11:26
nicomachusZesty officially released today, right?14:08
naccalready released, yea14:08
naccnicomachus: --^14:08
* oerheks is seeding like a hurricane14:09
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oerheksthis dude guest68720 is clearly trolling, first questions made some sense...15:46
naccyeah it's gone downhill *fast*15:46
KrisDouglasNeeds a good clip round the ear hole!15:47
KrisDouglasany mods we can tap up to ban his hostname?15:47
oerhekslike that?15:49
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Bashing-om!isitoutyet19:36
ubot5Yes!19:36
daftykins!doesanyonecare'causeit'snotLTS19:42
ubot5daftykins: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:42
daftykinsoh i know, ubot5, i know19:43
Bashing-om!cookie | ubot519:45
ubot5ubot5: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!19:45
oerheks!silly | me19:48
brunch875!git20:22
ubot5git is a distributed revision control/software code management project created by Linus Torvalds. For more information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software)20:22
brunch875hmmph how was it to check package versions again?20:22
brunch875!dpkg git20:22
daftykinscan you ask what you're trying to do, since you don't know how to use the bot?20:23
brunch875I'm trying to have ubottu output the version of git shipped on the repos20:23
daftykinsfor which ubuntu version?20:23
daftykinsthe syntax is !info <packagename> <release codename>20:24
brunch875ah thanks :)20:24
TheOneMenzieAccording to Joey Sneddon, we have the answer when it comes to how Ubuntu will implement GNOME in the next release22:36
TheOneMenzieAnd, lo and behold, it's the answer I specifically predicted22:37
TheOneMenzie#NoSurprises22:37
daftykinsi notice nobody has bitten yet22:39
TheOneMenzieNo one's bitten on what?22:53
TheOneMenzieThat fact that Ubuntu GNOME will be the new Ubuntu?22:53
daftykinswell no you spoke about 'how' and then said it's how you predicted it, but then didn't say anymore - suggesting you were waiting for someone to go "oh hey TheOneMenzie - do please share your wonderful insight" :)22:54
TheOneMenzieLol,22:54
TheOneMenzieWell, I kind of had inside info :)22:54
TheOneMenzieJoey just broke the news 3 weeks after it was told22:54
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