[04:51] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:21] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> bbl guys shopping day
[06:28] <ducasse> hi all
[06:28] <lordievader> Hey ducasse
[06:28] <lordievader> How are you?
[06:29] <ducasse> good thanks, how about you?
[06:32] <lordievader> Doing good here :)
[06:35] <ducasse> great :) just drinking tea and catching up on mail here, having a quiet day in :)
[06:37] <ducasse> what's the best way to find out why a package was removed in zesty, when it's probably not going to be listed in the release notes?
[06:39] <lordievader> Err, its launchpad page?
[06:42] <ducasse> ah, right - i didn't see the 'a newer version is available' thingy :) early in the morning here...
[10:14] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:14] <OerHeks> heya BluesKaj :-D
[10:14] <OerHeks> just in time for 17.04 release
[10:14] <BluesKaj> hi oer
[10:15] <BluesKaj> hi OerHeks
[10:31] <BluesKaj> suppose there's a release party chat...haven't bothered checking
[10:34] <BluesKaj> yup, but only 44 visitors arm
[10:34] <BluesKaj> atm
[10:35] <ducasse> there were more people there when xenial and yakkety was released, iirc
[10:36] <ducasse> morning, BluesKaj
[10:36] <BluesKaj> 'Morning ducasse
[10:37] <BluesKaj> only one upgrade this morning
[10:43] <ikevin> why does people are impatient about 17.04?
[10:43] <ducasse> it's always this way
[10:44] <lordievader> ^ that
[10:44] <lordievader> Every release, all over again.
[10:44] <ikevin> there not a lot of change from 16.10 and 17.04
[10:45] <BluesKaj> ikevin:  I'm already testing 17.04, looking to finish it now ;-0
[10:45] <ducasse> ikevin: no, just small stuff - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes
[10:45] <ikevin> ducasse, i know, that why i tell "not a lot of change"
[10:46] <ikevin> the only thing i like in 17.04 is swap file
[10:47] <ikevin> so, in my case, i use swap file for a while
[10:47] <ikevin> i prefer to wait to upgrade
[10:48] <BluesKaj> what's different about a swap file than any other OS?
[10:49] <ikevin> no difference, swap file is swap file
[10:49] <BluesKaj> exactly
[10:57] <lordievader> Having a swap file is an very old option, is it not?
[10:58] <lordievader> Ah, it is the default nowadays?
[10:58] <lordievader> I wonder why... does someone know the reasoning behind it?
[11:01] <ducasse> easier to modify than resizing partitions, perhaps.
[11:10] <lordievader> That is true I suppose.
[11:12] <ducasse> you would still need a partition to hibernate on an encrypted system, right?
[11:26] <lordievader> Yes, I think so. Sounds a bit of trying to unlock a car with the keys to unlock the car inside.
[14:08] <nicomachus> Zesty officially released today, right?
[14:08] <nacc> already released, yea
[14:08] <nacc> nicomachus: --^
[14:09]  * oerheks is seeding like a hurricane
[15:46] <oerheks> this dude guest68720 is clearly trolling, first questions made some sense...
[15:46] <nacc> yeah it's gone downhill *fast*
[15:47] <KrisDouglas> Needs a good clip round the ear hole!
[15:47] <KrisDouglas> any mods we can tap up to ban his hostname?
[15:49] <oerheks> like that?
[19:36] <Bashing-om> !isitoutyet
[19:42] <daftykins> !doesanyonecare'causeit'snotLTS
[19:43] <daftykins> oh i know, ubot5, i know
[19:45] <Bashing-om> !cookie | ubot5
[19:48] <oerheks> !silly | me
[20:22] <brunch875> !git
[20:22] <brunch875> hmmph how was it to check package versions again?
[20:22] <brunch875> !dpkg git
[20:23] <daftykins> can you ask what you're trying to do, since you don't know how to use the bot?
[20:23] <brunch875> I'm trying to have ubottu output the version of git shipped on the repos
[20:23] <daftykins> for which ubuntu version?
[20:24] <daftykins> the syntax is !info <packagename> <release codename>
[20:24] <brunch875> ah thanks :)
[22:36] <TheOneMenzie> According to Joey Sneddon, we have the answer when it comes to how Ubuntu will implement GNOME in the next release
[22:37] <TheOneMenzie> And, lo and behold, it's the answer I specifically predicted
[22:37] <TheOneMenzie> #NoSurprises
[22:39] <daftykins> i notice nobody has bitten yet
[22:53] <TheOneMenzie> No one's bitten on what?
[22:53] <TheOneMenzie> That fact that Ubuntu GNOME will be the new Ubuntu?
[22:54] <daftykins> well no you spoke about 'how' and then said it's how you predicted it, but then didn't say anymore - suggesting you were waiting for someone to go "oh hey TheOneMenzie - do please share your wonderful insight" :)
[22:54] <TheOneMenzie> Lol,
[22:54] <TheOneMenzie> Well, I kind of had inside info :)
[22:54] <TheOneMenzie> Joey just broke the news 3 weeks after it was told