[00:18] <mate|39615> hi
[01:19] <ouroumov> flexiondotorg, I confirm Network Sharing works with dnsmasq-base
[01:41] <TechWombat> Hey is anyone about to help solve a problem
[01:46] <TechWombat> I some how delted all the items in my application menu now when I try to lunch the menu editor it fails to lunch
[01:58] <ouroumov> hi TechWombat
[01:58] <ouroumov> TechWombat, if you create a new user and login as him, is the menu filled?
[01:58] <TechWombat> I have no items in the application menu
[01:58] <TechWombat> No it isn't
[01:59] <ouroumov> So you tested that before I suggested it?
[01:59] <TechWombat> Error loading menu layout from "/home/benjamin/.config/menus/mate-applications.menu": Line 298 character 1: Element <Old> is required to contain text and was empty
[01:59] <TechWombat> That is the error I get when I try to start mozo
 So you tested that before I suggested it?
[02:02] <TechWombat> Yeah I did just before and the menu had the same error
[02:03] <ouroumov> Except of course it wasn't /home/benjamin in the error message, right?
[02:03] <TechWombat> Yeah maybe its a error carrying over maybe I might try a reboot
[02:04] <ouroumov> In the mean time
[02:04] <ouroumov> What version of Ubuntu MATE are you using?
[02:04] <TechWombat> 1.16.0
[02:05] <ouroumov> That's a MATE version number, not an Ubuntu MATE version number.
[02:05] <TechWombat> 16.10
[02:05] <ouroumov> Okay
[02:06] <ouroumov> Have you tried to: dpkg --reconfigure mozo
[02:07] <TechWombat> No, I think I am going to go from a back up of the config, I was just hopping there was a command that set everything to default
[02:08] <ouroumov> I can give you my config if you like.
[02:09] <ouroumov> hm
[03:06] <TechWombat> Thanks for your help ouroumov, I got it all fixed up and yeah I restored the .config from yesterdays backup and fixed
[08:30] <mate|18351> Hi, when does ubuntu 17.4 coming out?
[08:36] <ouroumov> mate|18351, it's supposed to be later today
[08:37] <mate|18351> ok
[09:07] <un2him_> Keep an eye on #ubuntu-release-party
[09:07] <Canoe> Is there a go-live time for 17.04?
[09:07] <un2him_> Nope, just wait until announced
[09:08] <Canoe> Okay thanks
[10:06] <crankypuss> hey ouroumov how're things?
[10:26] <un2him_> Waiting for propagation...http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/releases/zesty/release/
[10:33] <un2him_> Getting there!
[10:34] <Canoe> Looks like it's in.
[10:34] <Canoe> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/releases/17.04/release/
[11:02] <Canoe> As far as I can tell, Mate doesn't yet have upgrades available as part of the software update process. sudo-do-release-upgrade doesn't pull anything.
[13:43] <Canoe> The crash in Caja when browsing SMB shares appears to have been fixed in 17.04. Nice work!
[13:58] <ouroumov> cool
[14:18] <flexiondotorg> https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-zesty-final-release/
[14:23] <taaem> Is there a Raspberry Pi 3 version of 17.04? Or are Snap packages supported in the 16.04.2 image for the pi
[14:32] <taaem> flexiondotorg: ^
[14:36] <Canoe> Running 17.04 Mate now, and in one word, it's superb.
[15:04] <Talikka> I wonder if the translations will be better in 17.04 than in 16.04.2
[15:05] <ouroumov_> Talikka, you can always contribute translations to the project.
[15:06] <Talikka> I tried about 1,5 years ago but failed
[15:12] <tugofwar> hi
[15:13] <ouroumov_> hi tugofwar
[15:14] <tugofwar> :)
[15:36] <ouroumov_> flexiondotorg, you already have a roadmap for 17.10?
[16:50] <sdrock> hello,   lenovo microsd reader not working after suspend until reboot
[16:54] <sdrock> My 64GB SD card (partitioned as ext4 22gb and FAT32 44gb) does not have any problem mounting if my laptop (running Ubuntu 16.04) never goes into suspend (after I close its lid).But once I reopen the lid, retype my password to login and resume working as before, the SD card vanishes, as if nothing was ever mounted... Pulling it out then re-inserting it doesn't resolve the problem. I have to power off my laptop completely before the card
[16:54] <sdrock> is recognized and mounted again.
[16:58] <sdrock> saw similar problem which they solved using acpitool but acpitool -w shows this for me:
[16:58] <sdrock> Device	S-state	  Status   Sysfs node
[16:58] <sdrock>   ---------------------------------------
[16:58] <sdrock>   1. XHC1	  S4	*enabled   pci:0000:00:14.0
[16:58] <sdrock>   2. BRCM	  S0	*disabled
[16:58] <sdrock>   3. BRC1	  S0	*disabled
[16:58] <sdrock>   4. PWRB	  S4	*enabled   platform:PNP0C0C:00
[16:59] <sdrock> is 2. or 3. the sdcard reader ?
[17:03] <sdrock> anyone,,, buhler ?
[17:06] <sdrock> sspencer
[17:11] <sdrock> can someone help with this problem
[17:20] <mate|22435> I've been running the 17.04 beta, will it get automatic upgrade to the release version?
[17:24] <ouroumov> mate|22435, yes
[17:26] <mate|22435> thanks ouroumov that's good to know
[17:31] <j09> Hi folks. Sorry to be a bother but I've been trying to get Ubuntu 17.04 up and running. I've dded it to a USB and booted off of it. However, before it reaches any menus, it stops and displays the following output: http://i.imgur.com/1QR9UNa.jpg Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I might work this out?
[17:31] <j09> Ubuntu-MATE that is.
[17:32] <ouroumov> j09, that looks bad
[17:32] <ouroumov> j09, did you use the command "sync" after the "dd"?
[17:33] <j09> I've tried different USBs and differnt methods. I first used dd and then I used the SUSE ImageWriter studio program.
[17:34] <j09> Could it have anything to do with the fact I'm running a Nvidia Geforce 970?
[17:55] <j09> I'll asume from the radio silence that no-one here is able to help. I've posted to the forums as well.
[18:36] <odroid> odroid xu4 with VU7+ touch screen. Anyone have information on disabling the screen dimming as  programs start?
[18:40] <ouroumov> I don't, maybe ask on our forums
[18:55] <mate|76994> i was on beta of zesty is their a way of updating mate to current .?
[18:58] <biplab> hello
[20:25] <pavlos> tried to compile VB additions to a 17.04 vm (so that I can auto-resize display), it fails
[20:42] <jojo_> hello. the new IPP printing is awesome.
[20:43] <jojo_> was wondering if it can also be invoked through cups (localhost:631) or must we use the GUI for it to work properly?
[20:51] <jojo_> when adding a printer via the gui - gives me a choice of three connection methods. DNSSD, driverless-IPP, and LPD. both driverlessIPP and DNSSD report using the same driver "IPPEVE.PPD"
[20:51] <jojo_> both ways succeed in printing test-page. however, when trying to add the same printer via cups - it fails.
[21:19] <ericcerickson> The upgrade has not been pushed to my system yet. Any advice?
[22:17] <nicklas_> why dont i get notified on new ubuntu version? ive tried forcing it with the manual chekcer, doesnt even start
[22:24] <nicklas_> how can i force the upgrade? dont wanna wait
[22:32] <jojo_> try do-release-upgrade -d
[22:32] <jojo_> the -d did the trick
[22:32] <nicklas_> jojo_, but why havent we got notified?
[22:32] <jojo_> because your thing is configured to look for only 'release versions'
[22:33] <nicklas_> jojo_, huh?
[22:33] <jojo_> and for some reason, zesty is still classified as dev in the url that do-release-upgrade checks
[22:33] <jojo_> so it wont notify you
[22:34] <nicklas_> ah, will it become marked as stable soon?
[22:34] <nicklas_> maybe its better to wait
[22:35] <jojo_> here http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts
[22:35] <jojo_> thats the url that do-release-upgrade checks
[22:35] <jojo_> sorry - that's only for lts
[22:35] <jojo_> this is the one for all release http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release
[22:35] <jojo_> zesty isn't on the list yet.
[22:36] <nicklas_> which means its not stable yet?
[22:37] <jojo_> ubuntu zesty has been released. it is the release version. perhaps they are not marking it as such to prevent the flood of traffic from millions of computers that autocheck for updates
[22:37] <jojo_> or maybe someone simply forgot
[22:38] <jojo_> if you allow the -d flag. then it checks this url http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-development
[22:53] <nicklas_> jojo_, so, what do i do to force the upgrade now again?
[22:56] <jojo_> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[22:57] <nicklas_> but i dont need to do the update-manager-core?
[22:58] <TheOneMenzie> Ubuntu 17.04 is released and stable.
[22:58] <TheOneMenzie> First, I'd make sure you've run [ sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade ] before you perform the release upgrade
[23:00] <nicklas_> but isnt that done via gui?
[23:01] <TheOneMenzie> Well, running the Software Updater is simply a front end for that, yes
[23:01] <nicklas_> yeah, thats what i meant :-)
[23:02] <nicklas_> but i dont need to do sudo apt-get install update-manager-core && sudo do-release-upgrade -d?
[23:02] <nicklas_> is it enough with just sudo do-release-upgrade -d?
[23:03] <nicklas_> or is it sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install update-manager-core && sudo do-release-upgrade -d?
[23:04] <nicklas_> sry, not apt-get right? should be only apt right?
[23:10] <TheOneMenzie> Yeah, if you don't have it, install it
[23:11] <nicklas_> uh? i have update manager
[23:13] <nicklas_> update-manager-core is installed
[23:13] <nicklas_> then its enough with sudo do-release-upgrade -d?
[23:20] <TheOneMenzie> Well, I was just suggesting you have the latest version of everything before you do the release upgrade, nicklas_
[23:21] <nicklas_> TheOneMenzie, and i do if ive updated via the gui right?
[23:24] <TheOneMenzie> nicklas_: Hopeful
[23:24] <TheOneMenzie> +ly
[23:33] <TheOneMenzie> jojo_: It's in the meta-release
[23:33] <TheOneMenzie> Unit193 just updated it
[23:42] <jojo_> TheOneMenzie: somoene just forgot to update it?
[23:43] <jojo_> you should also update meta-release-development ; it says supported =0  should be =1
[23:43] <jojo_> but that probly doesn't matter
[23:53] <TheOneMenzie> No
[23:53] <TheOneMenzie> It shouldn't
[23:53] <TheOneMenzie> There is no developing branch
[23:55] <TheOneMenzie> jojo_: ^