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Budgie^Smoreo/ juju world17:39
rick_hparty17:43
jrwrenBudgie^Smore: is your nick at all related to the desktop by that name?17:43
Budgie^Smorejrwren not that i am aware of, this has been my IRC nick since 9717:44
jrwrenBudgie^Smore: ok, just curious.17:45
Budgie^Smorejrwren no worries :) now you have me curious... budgie has been my nick since elementary17:46
jac_cplanewhat irc channel can I use to get help with charm command17:48
rick_hjac_cplane: you can ask here. A lot of folks on holiday today so kind of quiet17:50
jac_cplaneunderstood. thanks17:50
cholcomberick_h: i deployed a reactive subordinate charm onto a ceph-mon xenial box and it seems to be using python2.  is that expected behavior?  the ceph-mon charm is not reactive17:50
jac_cplaneok - so I am part of a charm group ~cplane-team17:51
jac_cplanewe have charms published in the charm store17:51
rick_hcholcombe: not sure. I would think that the reactive subordinate would carry it's own python version with it as a dep, but I've not tried it so not sure.17:51
cholcomberick_h: ok17:51
jac_cplanebut when I issue "charm list" I recieve a message that says "No charms found"17:51
rick_hjac_cplane: k, so it only checks for your username ootb and you need to specify the -u flag for others like https://pastebin.canonical.com/185983/17:53
rick_hjac_cplane: and as long as you have permissions you should be able to push to those charms with the correct charmstore urls e.g. cs:~cplane-team/trusty/cplane-controller and such17:54
jac_cplaneYes - I can push just fine.   but cannot list.  so I was just wondering if there was a problem with my account.  btw - I cannot access pastbin17:55
rick_hjac_cplane: oh my bad17:55
rick_hjac_cplane: try http://paste.ubuntu.com/24381761/17:55
jac_cplane@rick_h thanks.  !17:56
rick_hjac_cplane: np, let me know if that doesn't help you do what you're looking for.17:57
rick_hany juju folks, please check out and share along my latest "using juju for good stuff" blog post http://mitechie.com/blog/2017/4/12/three-reasons-you-need-to-keep-a-vpn-in-your-pocket ty!17:57
Budgie^Smorerick_h did I miss reason #1 in that link? I see the setup and reason #2 and #3 but ...18:06
rick_hBudgie^Smore: well the setup is kind of reason one (private connection)18:06
rick_hBudgie^Smore: I didn't call it out like that so it was sneaky and unclear :P18:07
Budgie^Smorerick_h that is what I thought ... but I have learned a long time ago not to assume anything18:07
Budgie^Smorerick_h oh I hate people who suggest remapping port 22! security by obscurity isn't security!18:09
rick_hBudgie^Smore: :)18:09
rick_hBudgie^Smore: but I get it all the time. "You shouldn't run ssh on port 22..." bug in today's world of transient machines kind of a pita18:09
Budgie^Smorerick_h you could add a bounce on how to setup your cloud instance fw to block traffic from all IPs but your vpn18:09
Budgie^Smorerick_h as I have helped run 30% of the world's web traffic, I dare anyone to tell me that and not get laughed out of the room... 250k servers / 2.4k+ data centers / 100+ countries, I know what I am talking about :)18:11
rick_hBudgie^Smore: :)18:11
jac_cplanewhen specifying a charm in a bundle, is it necessary to specify the version of the charm -0, -1 ?   will it alway take the latest if no version is specified18:28
rick_hjac_cplane: the bundle will grab the latest stable released version if no version is specified18:32
jac_cplaneawesome - thanks rick18:33
rick_hjac_cplane: the version can be encouraged to make sure the deploy is exactly what you expect if you're doing testing/repeatable deploys, but if it's just a general solution and gets tested before charms are updated should be just fine w/o a version number18:33
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