[06:17] <schnoodles> Anyone know why the upgrade process may not appear in Discover? (could it be because I run backports) ?
[06:34] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:48] <RBR1991> Anyone experienced with EFI, UEFI using dualboot? I'm on an Asus UX310, and I cannot boot into an OS after linux installation
[07:52] <hateball> hmmm, so I upgraded to 17.04 and seems xembed-sni-proxy or whatever it's called is missing... no icons showing for certain apps in the tray
[07:52] <hateball> known issue?
[07:57] <acheronUK>  /usr/bin/xembedsniproxy
[07:57] <acheronUK>  /etc/xdg/autostart/xembedsniproxy.desktop
[07:57] <acheronUK> both there ^^^ ?
[07:58] <hateball> yup
[07:58] <hateball> got hangouts plugin in chromium with missing icon, as well itch.io client
[07:58] <hateball> havent tested more yet
[07:59] <acheronUK> autostarts ok here. does it start manually?
[08:00] <hateball> acheronUK: kde.xembedsniproxy: failed to claim ownership of Systray Manager
[08:01] <acheronUK> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357940
[08:01] <acheronUK> hmmmm
[08:03] <hateball> hmmm, killing it and relaunching works. icons still hidden tho
[08:06] <hateball> also the new audio control thing treats all chromium windows as the same app, but I think I saw that mentioned somewhere...
[08:06] <hateball> which means if I try muting one window, it mutes all of them :D
[08:08] <acheronUK> killing and restarting it doesn't always work. IIRC on some apps you either need to restart the application as well, or log in/out
[08:08] <acheronUK> e.g. on thunderbird it shows on kill/restart. on hexchat it doesn't
[08:08] <hateball> acheronUK: yeah I restarted it and fresh-started itch.io but no go
[08:08] <hateball> will try session restart
[08:09] <hateball> hmmm yes now it is fine. odd
[08:10] <hateball> well, fine for chromium+hangouts. itch.io is still missing
[08:10] <acheronUK> that hacky workaround for legacy icons has never been 100% reliable
[08:10] <hateball> tho I cant remember if that was ever working properly, come to think of it
[08:29] <jubo2> Yes. It is out!
[09:28] <jubo2> downloading it
[09:28] <jubo2> on a supposedly clean machine
[09:43] <jubo2> burning to stick
[09:44] <jubo2> I am trying to figure out and hopefully fix my main machine that exhibits HW seeming problems even with the HW changed to another identical machine
[09:44] <jubo2> My only working theory is that the system I used to burn the image that I used to install was somehow corrupt
[09:48] <ikonia> why do you think that jubo2
[09:48] <jubo2> Memtest86+ freezes at same point when SMP-mode
[09:49] <ikonia> as if the image was corrupt, it's more likley it wouldn't even boot the installer
[09:49] <jubo2> sounds like HW problem
[09:49] <ikonia> thats more likley just a hardware error
[09:49] <ikonia> and nothing to do with the OS
[09:49] <jubo2> ikonia: corrupt I mean rooted in a bad bad way
[09:49] <ikonia> rooted ?
[09:49] <ikonia> in a bad way
[09:49] <ikonia> what does that mean ?
[09:49] <jubo2> RAM was changed, no effect
[09:49] <ikonia> doesn't mean ram is the problem
[09:49] <jubo2> rest of HW, a laptop was changed, no effect
[09:50] <ikonia> it means you have a hardware problem
[09:50] <ikonia> doesn't mean it's ram
[09:50] <ikonia> and what does "rooted" mean
[09:50] <jubo2> ikonia: rooted obviously means that some unknown party has gained superuser rights to themselves
[09:51] <ikonia> there is nothing obvious about what that
[09:51] <ikonia> you're suggestig your machine has been compromised and that has somehow caused a hardware error
[09:51] <jubo2> ikonia: Are you Eliza by any chance?
[09:51] <ikonia> am I what ?
[09:51] <jubo2> Another theory is that the Intel Management Engine is doing nasty stuff and should be disabled
[09:52] <ikonia> again - unlikley
[09:52] <jubo2> actually I heard from diaspora* that disabling IME in any case a good move
[09:52] <ikonia> more so as you're seeing the problem with a memtest boot
[09:52] <ikonia> I don't think it's a good move
[09:52] <jubo2> ikonia: I got a spare disk home
[09:52] <ikonia> I've seen it do some real benifit,
[09:52] <jubo2> I'll just pop it in and install 17.04 and see what happens
[09:52] <ikonia> why are you installing different OS's
[09:52] <ikonia> you've booted memtest
[09:53] <ikonia> that's nothing to do with the OS
[09:53] <ikonia> it's reported a hardware test failure
[09:53] <ikonia> (or are you running memtest from within ubuntu)
[09:54] <jubo2> ikonia: Maybe the Memtest86+ is corrupt .. it freezes. it odesn't report anything
[09:54] <ikonia> it's not corrupt
[09:54] <ikonia> if it boots - it's not corrupt
[09:54] <jubo2> the progress indicator keeps on blinking or turning (don't remember which)
[09:54] <ikonia> it's a really small binary
[09:54] <ikonia> if it's hardlocked on a memtest, it's very likley you have a hardware problem
[09:55] <jubo2> ikonia: the HW was changed to identical machine
[09:55] <jubo2> and all the problems exhibit the same
[09:55] <ikonia> the laptop motherboard was swapped to a different machine ?
[09:55] <ikonia> the cpu was swapped to a different machine ?
[09:55] <jubo2> no. another full machine
[09:55] <ikonia> what was swapped to another full machine
[09:55] <jubo2> ikonia: that or I've been scammed by my retailer
[10:12] <kubulo> Hello, I want to upgrade my kubuntu to 17.04. The problem is, that "do-release-upgrade" states, that no new release has been found. Any ideas how to fix that? I'm running 16.04
[10:13] <kubulo> should I first upgrade to 16.10. And if I have to do so, how do I do this?
[10:14] <Unit193> Change /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  prompt from 'lts' to 'normal'
[10:14] <kubulo> Unit193: thaks. I'll try that
[10:25] <mrboombastic> smplayer is not playing video's from my NAS!
[10:27] <mrboombastic> so, anybody can help me?
[10:29] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:32] <mrboombastic> can anybody help me, please?
[10:33] <BluesKaj> mrboombastic: , just tell us your problem
[10:34] <mrboombastic> well, smplayer doesn't play video's from my NAS
[10:35] <BluesKaj> did it work before this?
[10:35] <mrboombastic> no
[10:36] <BluesKaj> what players have you tried?
[10:37] <mrboombastic> others, but this one is playing subtitles
[10:37] <mrboombastic> the others don't
[10:38] <BluesKaj> mr have you tried mpv , it's like a backend for mplayers...also make sure you have ffmpeg installed
[10:38] <BluesKaj> mrboombastic: ^
[10:42] <mrboombastic> nope, that's not working too
[10:43] <mrboombastic> but, I have another problem...
[10:43] <mrboombastic> I have been using XFCE for a long time...
[10:43] <mrboombastic> but, what my disturbed that it is not login on my NAS as easy as KDE does
[10:44] <mrboombastic> everytime I enter the desktop I have to type in my logon data to get on my NAS
[11:03] <IrcsomeBot1> Renat Kamaletdinov was added by: Renat Kamaletdinov
[11:04] <IrcsomeBot1> <Renat Kamaletdinov> hi people!
[11:04] <IrcsomeBot1> <Renat Kamaletdinov> is anybody speak rusian/
[11:04] <IrcsomeBot1> <Renat Kamaletdinov> i have a problem but didnt find a solution---how to fix the problem with sound on KUbuntu i386
[11:04] <IrcsomeBot1> <Renat Kamaletdinov> ???
[11:07] <IrcsomeBot1> <Renat Kamaletdinov> is anybody home??
[11:07] <IrcsomeBot1> <Renat Kamaletdinov> 😞
[11:14] <mparillo> !ru
[11:17] <jubo2> What is the command to do dist upgrade?
[11:17] <jubo2> 'sudo dist-upgrade' perhaps?
[11:17] <jubo2> Reviving this one old machine that has a bust internal display
[11:18] <jubo2> I google it
[11:19] <Unit193> `do-release-upgrade`
[11:20] <IrcsomeBot1> <Renat Kamaletdinov> i have a new release
[11:20] <IrcsomeBot1> <Renat Kamaletdinov> 17.04
[11:20] <IrcsomeBot1> <Renat Kamaletdinov> no sound - this is very known problem...its strange becouse the 64bit dont have a problem with sound cards
[11:20] <IrcsomeBot1> <Renat Kamaletdinov> but had it with Videocards...
[11:22] <mrboombastic> does anybody know if there is an XFCE channel?
[11:24] <IrcsomeBot1> <Renat Kamaletdinov> maybe its possible to upgrade the system to x64? but i dont know how to do that---(
[11:25] <IrcsomeBot1> <Renat Kamaletdinov> @jubo2, no...i try to uninstall the drivers to update the system to upgrade it from terminal - nothing...but under the win10home i have sound
[11:28] <IrcsomeBot1> <Renat Kamaletdinov> if i open the window with sound configuration----only 0% and on the left side i see orange boll with "!" symbol---
[11:29] <IrcsomeBot1> <Renat Kamaletdinov> ok people i see thats nobody know that problem...than i try to another forum...
[13:35] <user___> test test
[14:44] <IrcsomeBot1> <Renat Kamaletdinov> So...With live 17.04 are everything okay...It works perfectly
[14:45] <IrcsomeBot1> <Renat Kamaletdinov> Than its only one solution - install completely new again
[15:39] <talmage> How do I change the name of my phone for KDE Connect?
[15:39] <talmage> It thinks my new phone is named "motorola".
[16:28] <gonssal> hi all, is anyone having problems with the libqt5script5 package when upgrading to 17.04?
[16:42] <gonssal> Errors processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt5script5_5.7.1~20161021+dfsg-2build1~3_amd64.deb
[16:43] <gonssal> «fgets» gave an empty string from «/var/lib/dpkg/info/libqt5script5:amd64.triggers»
[16:43] <gonssal> anyone with this problem trying to upgrade to 17.04?
[16:48] <gundoc7519> Hello all quick question
[16:50] <gundoc7519> I have been using Manjaro but I really want to get Mycroft working and under arch I have had nothing but problems.  I have Kubuntu 16.10 on a flash drive if I install it from there will I get the newest version or 16.10
[16:51] <oerheks> gundoc7519, you would get the latest 16.10. but you can upgrade to 17.04 after that, ofcourse
[16:53] <gundoc7519> Ok that i what I wanted to know.  I will just download 17.04 and put it on a flash drive.  I have nothing but time on my hands.  Involuntarily retired due to disability.
[16:53] <gonssal> I don't recommend upgrading, I'm just stuck with a broken system
[16:53] <gundoc7519> Gpmsaa! how so?
[16:55] <talmage> I found the place to change the phone's name in KDE Connect.  I thought it was a device setting.  It's a KDE Connect setting.
[16:56] <IrcsomeBot1> <Renat Kamaletdinov> People. I386 is bugversion
[16:56] <gundoc7519> Thanks for the help.  Off to have fun with computers.
[16:56] <IrcsomeBot1> <Renat Kamaletdinov> I had a problems with driver everytime
[16:56] <IrcsomeBot1> Renat Kamaletdinov was removed by: Renat Kamaletdinov
[16:58] <gonssal> well, finally migration to opensuse i guess
[16:59] <diogenes_> gonssal, yay, opensuse rules
[17:07] <gonssal> diogenes_: yeah but it's a pitty I have to switch because of a broken system
[17:08] <diogenes_> gonssal, don't chose tumbleweed
[17:08] <diogenes_> go for leap
[17:09] <gonssal> just downloaded tumbleweed
[17:09] <gonssal> why shouldn't I go for it
[17:11] <diogenes_> because it's rolling which means highly unstable and one day, after some updates, you can have your system broken as well
[17:12] <kallesbar>  Hi, kubuntu 17.04 clean installation stops initramfs prompt, then I tried latest LTS version 16.04 .2 same issue. BTW I am using vmware
[17:14] <gonssal> diogenes_: well I've been trying to fix a "stable" release for 4 hours now, so I'll take the risk if it means having latest kde versions
[17:16] <diogenes_> gonssal, ok, good luck
[20:39] <electrosam> hey, need help with kubuntu openconnect vpn
[20:56] <jubo2> how do I check age of an Kubuntu GNU/Linux OS when attaching it with a USB-to-SATA3 enclosure to a more modern Kubuntu? I have 2 disks and I don't recall which is more recent OS + homedir
[20:59] <jubo2> nevermind. figured it out from the age of the backups contained on both drives
[21:08] <genii> jubo2: For future reference, consult the /etc/issue file of each one
[21:22] <jubo2> genii: thanks for info
[21:22] <jubo2> Now installing my second Kubuntu17.04 of today