[00:05] <IrcsomeBot1> camicami was added by: camicami
[00:31] <denza242> how do I restart pulseaudio
[06:21] <marvin2> hi. if I want to give kubuntu a try can I just install kde windows manager and end up pretty much the same thing as if I installed kubuntu in the first place?
[06:24] <valorie> marvin2: not fully
[06:25] <valorie> kubuntu isn't just Plasma and kwin, it's also the KDE applications
[06:25] <valorie> do you have Ubuntu installed already?
[06:25] <marvin2> yes
[06:26] <valorie> I suggest you try the liveUSB or liveDVD and see if you like it enough to install
[06:26] <valorie> I've converted plain ubuntu into kubuntu before but it takes quite a bit of work
[06:27] <valorie> that said, if you want to just use some KDE applications, they will work in Ubuntu or any of the flavors
[06:28] <marvin2> I'll give liveusb a go
[06:28] <valorie> I hope you love it as much as I do
[06:30] <marvin2> if I decide to migrate to kubuntu are there any programs that can help reinstate all the configurations and programs (that don't have kubuntu equivalent)
[06:30] <valorie> not sure I understand your question
[06:31] <marvin2> if I start with fresh OS i have to reinstall all the programs I use and copy all the configurations. is there any program that will automate some of this
[06:31] <valorie> you can certainly save your config files -- do you have a separate ~/home partition?
[06:31] <marvin2> no
[06:33] <valorie> sorry, got disconnected
[06:34] <valorie> most of your configs are in ~/.config
[06:34] <marvin2> no problem. I said I don't have separate /home partition
[06:34] <valorie> you can back that up on some USB or so
[06:35] <marvin2> I can copy entire home directory. but there are quite a few other configuration files, no? like files in /etc/
[06:35] <valorie> you'll still have to re-install anything you miss, but can then just move over the config file on top
[06:35] <valorie> those you can't do, at least easily
[06:35] <valorie> all user configs are in .config or .local
[06:36] <valorie> what are you worried about losing?
[06:36] <valorie> we supply firefox, for instance
[06:36] <marvin2> we'll I'll backup hosts file, fstab, so that I'm not worried about. I am worried about things I forget to backup =)
[06:37] <marvin2> are there no programs that can help migrate files like that to new OS?
[06:38] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:38] <aiz11> hi everyone! feeling pretty pumped. finally got kubuntu booting on my surface pro! took a lot of messing around with uefi but in the end rEFInd did the trick. next step is to see how well maschine and ableton live run on windows 10 in vmware.
[06:38] <valorie> not that I've heard of, marvin2
[06:38] <valorie> I like setting up, personally
[06:41] <valorie> aiz11: that's good news
[06:41] <valorie> you might blog a bit about that
[06:41] <valorie> spread the news incase someone else has the same kit
[06:42] <aiz11> in the end I want to be single booting gnu/linux but this is a good start
[06:43] <aiz11> I'll definitely think about writing it up
[09:36] <sonne> hi! okular won't open .mobi books on my kubuntu 17.04 (or better, it opens them but renders them as xml), despite having installed epub-utils and kdegraphics-mobipocket. what am i doing wrong? thanks! :)
[09:49] <acheronUK> sonne: seems to open them ok here.
[09:49] <acheronUK> no 'extras' needed
[09:51] <sonne> acheronUK, running vanilla kubuntu 17.04?
[09:51] <acheronUK> just testing....
[09:53] <acheronUK> sonne: yep. just tried on a freshly installed 17.04 VM, in case anything weird on this install.
[09:53] <sonne> acheronUK, https://www.dropbox.com/s/zutil8q5lri0hkk/Quick%20Start%20Guide%20-%20John%20Schember.mobi?dl=1 does your okular load this?
[09:54] <acheronUK> works on a book I already had, and a random sample from a web search
[09:54] <sonne> (don't worry it's just calibre's default quickstart guide, just to make sure we're handling the same kind of files)
[09:54] <acheronUK> https://pressbooks.com/sample-books/
[09:55] <sonne> acheronUK, my okular loads those too. this is odd.
[09:55] <sonne> does yours load the one i linked?
[09:55] <acheronUK> I get the same as you. xml
[09:55] <sonne> should be a valid mobi though, calibre generated it and can open it
[09:55] <acheronUK> okululr mobi support clearly struggles with some conversions
[09:56] <acheronUK> lemme try on another distro entirely
[09:56] <sonne> sure, thanks :)
[09:56] <acheronUK> if it does the same on that, then we know okular if buggy for some mobi formatting
[10:00] <acheronUK> 2 secs. a pain to get that link into a VM with no copy paste working
[10:00] <acheronUK> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zutil8q5lri0hkk/Quick%20Start%20Guide%20-%20John%20Schember.mobi?dl=1
[10:02] <sonne> https://goo.gl/QLFvMb
[10:03] <sonne> (sorry it took me a while, google was unconvinced of my humanity)
[10:04] <acheronUK> sonne: in Chakra's okular (latest version) http://i.imgur.com/ppwroPl.png
[10:05] <sonne> okular bug it is then.
[10:05] <sonne> (or calibre bug?)
[10:06] <acheronUK> could be either. I don't know enough about formatting those to say
[10:06] <sonne> i'm not even qualified enough to research
[10:06] <sonne> i'll open a bug report on okular and see what happens :)
[10:06] <sonne> thanks for your help!
[10:06] <acheronUK> no problem :)
[11:05] <bogi58> halli
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:22] <emiya_> hi
[14:13] <sineline> hello
[14:13] <IrcsomeBot1> camicami was removed by: camicami
[14:13] <sineline> I wonder if someone can help me out with something
[14:14] <sineline> I keep getting an error when I try to run ifup
[14:14] <sineline> it says the if-pre-up.d/iwconfig was not found
[14:15] <sineline> its a symlink and I deleted the original file by mistake
[14:15] <sineline> i-ve been trying to reinstall the whole thingie but havent managed. I reinstalled nettools, wirelestools and any other relatec package I could find
[14:17] <sineline> please?
[14:18] <idef1x> let me fireup my kubuntu vm to set what it says
[14:19] <idef1x> hmmm no iwconfig there...also not on Linux mint where I actually do use wireless..
[14:20] <sineline> mm
[14:21] <sineline> actually I am using raspbian
[14:21] <sineline> i assumed the setup would be the same
[14:21] <sineline> my mistake
[14:21] <sineline> thanks a lot for checking btw
[14:25] <idef1x> no problem
[14:26] <idef1x> on my Pi with Raspbian also doesn't have iwconfig in that dir
[14:26] <idef1x> but can't you make a symlink then to /sbin/iwconfig?
[14:27] <sineline> I will try
[14:27] <sineline> but the broken symlink points to a different place
[14:27] <sineline> i mean I think it wa an script
[14:27] <sineline> not the binary
[14:28] <sineline> if that makes sense
[19:25] <don_> quick question is there any way to download conky-manager?  I have added teejee2008 to the list of repositories.  When I apt-get install I get E:unable to locate package conky-manager
[19:26] <ZornyMagnetbox> Did you do an apt update after adding the repo?
[19:26] <don_> yes I did
[19:27] <ZornyMagnetbox> Did it give you any 404 errors?
[19:27] <don_> I did apt-get conky worked fine
[19:27] <ZornyMagnetbox> Which version of Kubuntu are you running?
[19:27] <don_> no 404 errors
[19:27] <don_> Zesty
[19:28] <don_> I have been running Manjaro.  I installed Kubuntu so I could get Mycroft working
[19:28] <don_> I usally use xfce this is first outing with KDE
[19:29] <ZornyMagnetbox> Looking at the repo on Launchpad they don't have packages for Zesty.
[19:29] <ZornyMagnetbox> It seems to go up to Xenial.
[19:29] <ZornyMagnetbox> At least for the conky-manager package that is.
[19:29] <don_> I just looked at launchpad and they had zesty listed and conky-manger I can't find any way to get it into my computer
[19:32] <ZornyMagnetbox> I looked at the repo on Launchpad and looked at the conky-manager packages. You can see the version that's supported to the right of the entry. The latest one on that list is 16.04.
[19:33] <don_> so what can I do to get it?
[19:36] <don_> AFK for a few
[19:38] <acheronUK> no code updates since 2015, so looks abandoned and probably does not support newer format conky config?
[19:38] <acheronUK> could try the xenial .debs, or grab the source and try the install scripts http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~teejee2008/conky-manager/trunk/files
[19:39] <acheronUK> but hit and miss if it will work
[19:43] <don_> Back-  I know it in arch repository let me add that to source list.  Thanks for the help as always.  I am out.
[20:56] <Guest92611> discover not show apps
[21:33] <AceKing> Hi everyone. I did a fresh install of 17.04 64 bit on my PC yesterday. I have two ethernet ports. One to connect to the internet, the other is a shared port. I cannot get the shared port to connect. I've been trying since yesterday but can't figure it out.
[21:53] <MK> I accidentally hid a device I want to mount in dolphin, how can I undo this?
[21:57] <MK> oh I see, Show All Entries, nvm
[22:49] <bard> anyone able to help with me downloading Kubuntu from ubuntu 17.04 w/ gnome? was giving it a go but decided i don't enjoy it.
[23:01] <mparillo> bard: I would go to:https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/
 or maybe they mean install the kubuntu desktop on their current install?
[23:05] <bard> ^ yeah, trying to avoid a full reinstall
[23:05] <bard> sorry, could've been a bit more descriptive.
[23:06] <bard> i've found a few websites that make it seem like it's possible, but they are for ubuntu 16.
[23:09] <acheronUK> you can do 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[23:10] <acheronUK> can get a few file conflicts with some gnome stuff maybe though?
[23:10] <acheronUK> so might have to work through some issues
[23:11] <acheronUK> residual gnome/GTK settings may aslso be left in place
[23:12] <bard> right on, ty.