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latemuswhy is the torrent broken bro00:18
tsimonq2latemus: idk bro00:39
tsimonq2latemus: What link you looking at, bro?00:39
latemustsimonq2: dis one http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/xenial/release/lubuntu-16.04-desktop-powerpc.iso.torrent00:46
tsimonq2latemus: What torrent client?00:47
latemusrtorrent bro00:48
tsimonq2Hmmm idk00:48
tsimonq2latemus: Try in #ubuntu, bro?00:48
latemustsimonq2: k thank you my brother00:57
tsimonq2latemus: Thank YOU for installing Lubuntu :)00:57
latemusnp00:58
latemusthank you for making it00:58
bucohi06:50
bucogot a question. I am trying to sell my rpi with my sd card. so I try to make any data on the rpi unreadable06:51
bucoI formated the drive with encryption (LUKS) and try to fill the drive06:52
bucohowever PCManfm doesnt show properties of the device such as free space in bytes etc.06:53
latemusbuco: can you run df -h07:11
bucoyeah it shows /dev/dm-0        30G   28G   48M 100% /media/buco/myfiles07:12
buco48 megs. weird07:12
latemuswhy do you want to ecrypt the data on the drive, just overwrite it seven times07:12
buco32 GB — 1,7 GB free (94,8% full) is what disk utility shows07:12
buconot sure. it seems that sd cards and stuff do some fancy things , so it is not as easy as overwriting old hdds07:14
latemusDRIVETOOBLITERATE='put ur drive name here bro, you data will go away 4evr'; for i in {1..7}; do dd if=/dev/random of=$DRIVETOOBLITERATE; done07:14
bucoI will try. just let me find the note on osxs diskutil07:15
latemusk bro07:15
bucohttps://pastebin.com/8tykUMhL07:17
bucothe note on the bottom07:17
bucolatemus: nothing happen08:06
bucos08:06
latemushuh10:14
KiickiHow can I install the audio software on Lubuntu, the same on they use in Ubuntu? For some reason I cannot change the output for my audio. I got built in speakers in my PC so the audio is output from there where I want it from my TV. The PC is connected to the TV with HDMI14:50
KiickiI have pressed "F6" and tried to change the device but no luck14:50
Kiickialsamixer is what I have installed14:51
antisKiicki, you could try pulseaudio -> sudo apt install pulseaudio pavucontrol15:09
antishowever, i personally prefer alsa - lubuntu's default15:10
Kiickiyeah, that one just doesn't work for me as i can't change card for some reason15:10
Kiickiwill try the pulse audio15:10
antispavucontrol is the mixer for pulseaudio btw.15:11
antisprobably check your channel volume controls before installing pulsaudio though. usually relevant are: master, pcm, speaker and headphones15:13
antisi don't have experience with hdmi, which is an "advanced setup" (because we have additional channels). there's an "auto" switch available in alsamixer to toggle when headphones are plugged in, but hdmi might be a different story…15:21
antis…so pulseaudio might be your only option here15:21
antiskiicki: Just google'd a bit and found this question, which is a bit old (2013). It might "just work" for your setup: https://askubuntu.com/questions/370325/switch-sound-to-hdmi-in-lubuntu-without-installing-additional-packages15:33
antisThis sets the default output to HDMI.15:33
Capum321where is the path for GNOME installation? Is it a package?16:22
Capum321hello16:25
melodiehi19:21
=== Olican101 is now known as olican101mobile
olican101mobileHi, anyone about? I just installed Lubuntu on a friend's pc that was running XP and it's going great except the resolution. It won't go above 640x480 and I can't figure out how to fix it...19:48
olican101mobileI've never used Linux before so I'm not really sure what I did wrong19:48
olican101mobileAnyone know when people will be around to help?20:10
wxlwhat's up @olican101mobile ?20:10
olican101mobileI just installed Lubuntu and the max resolution is 640x48020:11
olican101mobileCan't get it to go above that even though it supported 720p in windows xp20:11
wxlprobably a driver issue. what card you running and what driver? see `lspci -nnk`20:11
olican101mobileI have tried installing and drivers but I believe the graphics card is broken (both on Linux and windows I could only get a picture through plugging the VGA into the motherboard)20:12
wxlyeah well linux can't fix broken hardware XD20:12
olican101mobileHow do I install Intel Pentium 3 drivers?20:13
wxlusing `lspci -nnk` what's the 8 digit (xxxx:xxxx) PCI ID of your card?20:13
olican101mobilePentium 4*20:13
olican101mobilePCI I'd?20:14
wxlrun `lspci -nnk` in a terminal20:14
wxllook for "VGA"20:14
olican101mobileOkay20:14
wxlhere's my section for comparison's sake https://share.riseup.net/#TIfPKG-YEpqXL12ou0QJaw20:14
wxlthat's just the VGA section mind you20:15
wxl8086:0156 is the PCI ID20:15
wxli915 is the driver i'm using, and the only driver i have installed20:15
olican101mobile1039:633020:15
olican101mobileI think that's the VGA one20:17
wxlokie dokie20:17
wxland what's the driver you're using?20:17
wxlalso which version are you using?20:18
olican101mobileI just downloaded a radeon .Run and set it to executable and executed it in terminal20:18
olican101mobileHow do I find out the version?20:18
wxlit should tell you in lspci -nnk20:18
wxlotherwise you didn't install anything XD20:18
wxlversion of lubuntu: `lsb_release -a`20:18
olican101mobileWhere would it say?20:18
wxllook at my paste20:18
wxlit says at the end20:19
olican101mobileOkay I'll type that into terminal20:19
olican101mobileCommand not found20:20
wxlwhich one is that/20:20
olican101mobileLsb_release-a20:21
wxllinux is case sensitive20:21
wxll not L20:21
olican101mobileAhh20:21
wxland lsb_release -a not lsb_release-a20:21
olican101mobileUbuntu 16.10 yakkety20:22
wxland one last thing. which kernel are you on? `uname -r20:23
olican101mobile4.8.0-46-generic20:23
wxlok20:24
olican101mobileShould i just take the GPU out seeing as it doesn't work?20:24
wxlfirst off, if we get this figured out, do not upgrade to 17.04 or the 4.11 kernel as DRM support for SiS chips has been dropped https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-17.04-Slimmer-DRM20:24
olican101mobileSis?20:25
wxlthat's the chip you have20:25
olican101mobileAhh20:25
wxlthe pci id is in the format vendor:device20:25
olican101mobileMy friend has a suuuper old pc he just uses for the internet. He was getting constant viruses on XP20:25
wxlso you can see here, it's a SiS http://pcidatabase.com/search.php?vendor_search_str=1039&vendor_search=Search20:26
olican101mobileRight. Don't update. Okay20:26
olican101mobileSo is there no way to fix the resolution? Because everything is so large20:26
wxli have an idea of how you can help me help you20:27
olican101mobileOkay?20:27
wxlyou can post up a paste of your system info so i can get, among other things, the kernel driver in use20:27
wxlfirst, install pastebinit (you can `sudo apt install pastebint`)20:27
wxlthen you can `lspci -nnk | pastebinit`20:27
wxlthat will return a URL that you can paste here20:27
olican101mobileHold on. Should i take out the gpu first?20:28
olican101mobileSeeing as it's broken20:28
wxlwait, do you have an onboard chip AND a separate card?20:29
olican101mobileYou may be trying to get something working that may never work20:29
olican101mobileYes20:29
wxloh heh20:29
wxlyes do that first. broken is broken.20:29
olican101mobileI couldn't get the card working in windows20:29
olican101mobileYup. Just thought it may be an easy fix but i guess its hardware20:29
wxlthat actually might be your easy fix :)20:30
olican101mobileIean. The fact that the VGA works on the MB and not the GPU Linda says a lot20:31
olican101mobileThis pc is so dusty it's like opening up a crypt20:32
olican101mobileOkay, booting now20:33
olican101mobileIs it weird for it to take forever to boot after removing faulty hardware?20:36
olican101mobileEr. It's just stuck on the Lubuntu screen... Should I reinstall it?20:39
wxlhard to say20:40
wxlit could be all sorts of different issues20:40
wxlbut certainly, verifying that you have a proper install is wise20:40
wxlyou should make sure to check the hashes and check the install media before installing20:40
olican101mobileDid that. It was fine20:40
wxlthen i don't see what reinstalling would do20:40
olican101mobileIt's just that since i removed this GPU it is taking forever20:40
wxlyou could ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a virtual terminal (you have to ctrl-alt-f7 to return) and then check in the logs (/var/log) to see if there's anything relevant, especially in dmesg or Xorg.0.log20:41
wxlin general you don't need to do a lot of hullaballoo to switch devices in linux (unlike windows)20:42
olican101mobilePressed ctrl alt f1 and it's just a blinking cursor with flashing lights on top20:42
olican101mobileCan't type anything20:43
wxluhhh20:43
olican101mobileOh wait. It said something about recovery20:43
wxlyeah that's pretty weird. you got something going wrong and if you can't dig deeper it's difficult to diagnose20:43
wxloh jeez20:43
wxlthat's not great20:43
olican101mobileRecovery terminal20:43
wxlprobably a grub issue20:43
olican101mobileOh, login screen20:43
olican101mobileThat was...odd20:43
Zesty_Zapus_Livemy zesty zapus took two hours to install on a live usb, it takes a lot of time to boot up, but it works perfectly.20:44
wxlsystemd seems to take a bit long in the boot, at least that's my impression20:44
olican101mobileNow i have no mouse...20:44
olican101mobileOdd. My usb mouse works but not ps220:45
wxldid you unplug the ps2 while it was booting?20:45
olican101mobileNo20:46
wxlcuz ps/2 ain't plug and play20:46
olican101mobileShould i try restarting?20:46
wxlfor the ps/2 that's what i'd do20:46
wxli LOOOOOATHE ps/220:46
olican101mobileIt worked before it restarted20:46
olican101mobileI do to but i don't have a spare mouse20:47
olican101mobileOh god. Now I'm getting CPU over temp errors20:48
olican101mobileA raspberry pi would probably be better than this20:48
wxlthis should solve your mouse issues https://www.amazon.com/3-Button-Optical-Scroll-Notebook-Desktop/dp/B01H4ZJZOU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492289337&sr=8-1&keywords=usb+mouse20:49
wxlsometimes old hardware is old.20:49
olican101mobileCould get a mouse cheaper than that here but he has no cash spare.20:50
olican101mobileMakes me thankful for my 980ti i720:51
olican101mobileHmm. It is taking a lot longer to boot...20:51
olican101mobileI think I'm going to resinstall the os20:52
olican101mobile Having a username without a capital is messing with my OCD21:06
* falcondaadda says hello to #lubuntu :)21:58
falcondaaddaGuys I need to install Vmware workstation 12 on lubuntu and I am continuosly getting error that it needs to make some changes in kernel after that it does not starts the services..21:59
falcondaaddawhat should I do ?21:59
falcondaaddaPlease any help..22:00
wxlneed the full error to provide any assistance at all22:01
wxleven still, i don't use vmware22:01
falcondaaddawxl: just wait. i will post22:01
Olican101mobileOkay. I reinstalled without the GPU and the resolution is still 640x480 max :(22:02
wxlOlican101mobile: go back to my suggestion re: pastebinit22:03
Olican101mobileWhat do i type into the terminal?22:03
wxlsudo apt install pastebinit && lspci -nnk | pastebinit22:04
wxlthen paste the resulting url here22:04
Olican101mobileHow do you do that |? I don't have it on my kb22:05
wxlit's different on different keyboards but it's usually shift \22:06
LugalHello22:06
Olican101mobileI'm on a UK kb22:06
* wxl shrugs22:06
LugalWhat Compiler is used to compile the official Lubuntu? and why is Lubuntu faster, than other Linuxes with LXDE?22:06
Olican101mobileCan i do it without? Or is there a charmap?22:07
Olican101mobileIt works with alt + ` in windoes22:07
wxlOlican101mobile: you can't really use it the same way. i guess you can copy it all and stick it on pastebin.com22:07
wxlLugal: since most of it's in c, gcc. and because it uses less resources.22:08
Olican101mobileOh altgr did it22:08
Olican101mobilePaste.ubuntu.com/2439009622:09
Lugalits less resources by using less programms, or are the binaries just smaller?22:09
wxllooks to me like you didn't remove the problem child, Olican101mobile22:10
Olican101mobileThe what?22:10
wxlLugal: overall, it uses less resources22:10
wxl1039:6330 is stil there22:10
Olican101mobileThe card is 100% removed22:11
Olican101mobileAnd i reinstalled without it22:11
wxlyou are using sisfb but should be using the sis driver22:11
Lugaland if I use TinyC compiler, could I make my system even faster, than with gcc c?22:11
wxlLugal: done know, but you can try to find out.22:12
Olican101mobileHow do i fix it?22:12
Olican101mobileI just want 720p :(((22:12
wxlif you `lsmod | grep sis` does it return anything?22:12
Olican101mobilei2c_sis630 16384 022:14
Olican101mobilesis_agp 16384 122:15
wxlis that it?22:15
Olican101mobileYes22:15
wxldoes ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/sis/sis.ko return anything?22:16
Olican101mobileDo i put my username in?22:17
wxl`ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/sis/sis.ko`22:17
wxljust that22:17
wxlno need for a username22:17
wxl$(uname -r) tells bash to insert the current kernel version as /lib/modules has directories in it for each kernel22:18
Olican101mobileIs that a space between - r? Hard to see on mobile22:18
wxlyes22:18
Olican101mobileIt doesn't return anything22:19
wxlweird22:19
wxlyou don't have the driver in your kernel22:19
Olican101mobileIt's just a flashing cursor on the next line down22:19
wxli'm just. confused.22:19
wxlit should just be there22:19
Olican101mobileHow do I get it?22:19
wxlUNLESS you're on 17.0422:19
wxlbecause i know it was dropped22:19
wxlso again let's be clear what `uname -r` gives you22:20
Olican101mobileHow do i see what version I'm on?22:20
wxl`lsb_release -rs`22:21
Olican101mobile16.1022:22
wxlOH22:22
wxlwell22:22
Olican101mobile?22:22
wxlit looks like it may only exist in 14.0422:22
Olican101mobileOh?22:23
Olican101mobileSo, i cant get it on here?22:23
wxllet me confirm22:23
wxlyep it's true. precise and trusty only22:23
Olican101mobileSo, i can never get above this resolution? :(22:24
wxlit's included in the xserver-xorg-video-sis22:24
Olican101mobileWhat does that mean?22:24
wxlyou can install an older version of lubuntu22:24
Olican101mobileWould i need a separate disk? This mb doesn't support usb22:24
Olican101mobileAnd i cant get another disk before they want this back22:25
wxluhhhhhhhhhhh yeah i can't really think of any other way to do it22:26
Olican101mobileDamn22:26
Olican101mobileSo there's no way to get higher resolution on this is?22:26
Olican101mobileOs*22:26
wxlget a different graphics card22:26
Olican101mobileOuch22:26
Olican101mobileErm22:26
Olican101mobileMaybe i can get them a cheap one out of my pocket22:27
wxli mean, old stuff is old22:27
wxlit happens sometimes22:27
Olican101mobileYeah22:27
wxlthere's this https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233965822:28
wxltl;dr compile your own driver XD22:28
Olican101mobileErm22:28
Olican101mobileI first used Linux a few hours ago22:29
wxlthat's for 16.04 so you'll have to adapt a bit22:29
wxlyeah exactly22:29
falcondaaddawxl: https://pastebin.com/GDUTndZ322:29
Olican101mobileI'll just head into town on Monday and look for a cheap gpu22:29
falcondaaddawxl: this is the log which is being generated.. dont know what the problem is but vmware workstation does not starts..22:29
falcondaaddaiam using lubuntu 16.1022:30
Olican101mobileThank you for the help wxl22:30
wxlOlican101mobile: even then, it looks like people have had to do some serious faffing in the past to make the sis driver work at higher resolutions https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-sis/+question/14509822:31
wxlyeah sorry for the bad news22:31
Olican101mobileI'll probably back on Monday to find out how to install a cheap GPU22:31
wxlif you get something supported, it'll be a no brainer22:31
Olican101mobileWhat's a cheap ($20 second hand) GPU you would recommend?22:31
wxlfalcondaadda: right off the bat it seems like you're missing files22:31
falcondaaddacan anyone please help me22:31
wxlOlican101mobile: i don't know. i usually go to wherever, find out what the chip is and then look it up on the internets.22:32
Olican101mobileI did have to use the light install to use a cd instead of a dvd. Could it be that?22:32
wxlnope22:32
Olican101mobileDamn22:33
wxllubuntu tries to support old hardware, but we're limited by what upstreams support22:33
wxlnot sure why sis support has dropped off, but for some reason it has22:33
wxli know that the reason why drm sis chips have lost support recently is because of insecure api calls22:34
Olican101mobileWould a geforce GT 710 work?22:35
wxlfalcondaadda: also it's the kernel module compilation that seems to be failing. try running `/usr/bin/make -j2 -C /tmp/modconfig-1K3dod/vmnet-only auto-build HEADER_DIR=/lib/modules/4.8.0-22-generic/build/include CC=/usr/bin/gcc IS_GCC_3=no` on your own and see why it fails22:35
wxlOlican101mobile: looks like it https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/5rra88/can_i_use_the_geforce_gt_710_for_ubuntu_1610/ :)22:36
Olican101mobileOkay. I'll grab that. Thanks22:36
wxlbut note that nouveau will not give you 3D acceleration. you'd need to install the proprietary drivers for that (the ones amd provides)22:37
wxlthat's a little extra effort22:37
falcondaaddawxl: how can i install the .h files its asking.. whats the command for that22:37
Olican101mobileWill it run chromium at 720p?22:37
wxlshould i think22:37
Olican101mobileThank you :)22:38
wxlfalcondaadda: i have no idea what you're doing or seeing.22:39
Olican101mobileThank you for the help wxl. Will be on tomorrow or Monday.22:39
wxlnp Olican101mobile. i should be around. or someone else can help :)22:39
falcondaaddawxl: https://pastebin.com/TiXc7d6M22:40
falcondaaddaplease have a look .. whats with the .h files22:40
wxlactually it seems to me that the problem is in line 6222:43
wxlso let's back up here22:43
wxlyou paid for the vmware workstation license i'm assuming, right?22:43
falcondaaddaactually no22:44
wxlcuz as far as i know, that's a thing, isn't it?22:44
wxli guess you can download it22:46
* wxl shrugs22:46
wxlare you running a 64 bit version of lubuntu? and if so, which one?22:46
falcondaaddayes 64 bit 16.10 yakkeety22:47
wxlso you downloaded22:47
wxland you make the .bundle executable22:47
wxland then ran it, right?22:47
falcondaaddayes22:47
wxlugh i hate http this download is taking forever22:48
wxlwell that bundle is not very useful22:50
falcondaaddawhy ?22:50
wxlno read me or anyhthing22:50
wxli'm sure there's more to this if compiling is involved22:51
wxldid you load any dependencies?22:51
falcondaaddashould I install a previous ones like 9 or 1022:51
falcondaaddaiam downloading 10.0.1 dont know it will work or not .. :(22:55
wxli don't think that's the issue22:55
wxli'm just trying to find decent instructions :/22:55
falcondaaddaI dont even know what that means... iam deaddd  :|22:56
wxldid the bundle install?22:56
falcondaaddayes it says install successful22:56
wxlok here's what you need to do:22:56
falcondaaddatwo services do not start virtual ethernet and one more22:57
wxlsudo apt install build-essential linux-kernel-headers linux-kernel-devel22:58
falcondaaddasingle command ?22:58
wxlyep22:58
falcondaaddahttps://thepasteb.in/p/mwh1zBxpW8VH522:59
falcondaaddawhats this now .. this is new :p23:00
wxlok just remove the linux-kernel-devel part23:00
wxlbut type the rest of the command in again23:00
wxlunless it actually installed the other two for you23:00
falcondaaddahttps://thepasteb.in/p/Anhr4LQrN6oFv23:01
wxlhmm23:01
wxlwell that sucks.23:02
wxli cannot find clear installation instructions from vmware23:02
falcondaaddait does indeed.. :(23:02
wxlbut i'm sure there's some other piece that's missing.23:02
falcondaaddashould I go for 10.0.1 installation23:02
* wxl shrugs23:02
wxldon't ask me23:02
falcondaaddaoh man :|23:03
wxlif vmware published packages in the ubuntu repos this would be SIMPLE23:03
wxli guess you can consult vmware for help23:03
falcondaaddayes... so no way out of it..23:04
wxli'm not sure how to make this clear but it's a third party product. ubuntu does not maintain it. community members may have used it, but it's not a regular part of the system, therefore we can't support it.23:04
falcondaaddaare you aware of one version which used to work on this version of lubuntu so that I can download both the same version & check23:05
wxlno23:05
falcondaaddaok..23:05
wxlmost people i know use virtualbox or kvm/qemu for virtualization23:05
wxlthose are included in the repo and easily installed23:05
falcondaaddayeah but I have vmdk files will they work in some otherer softwa23:06
falcondaaddasoftware*23:06
wxli know that virtualbox is cpable of loading them23:06
falcondaaddavmdk ? are you sure will they work in virtualbox23:07
falcondaadda?23:07
wxlyes23:07
falcondaaddalooks like I should give it a try..23:07
falcondaaddaany particular version or the latest virtualbox is good ?23:07
wxllatest is always best23:08
falcondaaddahmm .. thanks wxl23:08
wxlnp23:09
falcondaaddathanks a lot for your time.. I really appreciate..23:09
wxlhappy to help23:09

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