[15:41] <fritsch> bschaefer: yeah - we will keep it and ping you whenever something touches it. Thanks much. Next on our todo (including gsoc) is: wayland.
[15:42] <bschaefer> fritsch, awesome, yeah was looking that the drm branch and that looked awesome!
[15:43] <fritsch> if you have some comments for it, please do not hesitate to state those - highly appreciated
[15:44] <bschaefer> Yup was going to test it out this weekend, my only concern was if SDL was selected for events ... only joysticks would work IIRC
[15:44] <bschaefer> as theres no backend for drm
[15:44] <bschaefer> but was looking and SDL isnt default selected (unless i missed it) so shouldnt be a big issue
[15:44] <fritsch> it should not use sdl
[15:45] <fritsch> if you test it, please report your results in the PR
[15:45] <fritsch> i think for now, you need root access to run it
[15:45] <fritsch> the VAAPI commits will go to vp_updates branch
[15:45] <fritsch> as we are currently heavily reworking vidoe player too
[15:45] <fritsch> and therefore lrusak removed those commits
[15:45] <fritsch> but he has drm + vaapi working already
[15:46] <bschaefer> yeah figured it shuldnt
[15:46] <bschaefer> o nice!
[15:46] <bschaefer> yeah theres a drm vaapi backend
[15:46] <fritsch> the same you use in mir
[15:46]  * bschaefer recalls that being already supported?
[15:46] <bschaefer> yeah
[15:47] <fritsch> those commits: https://github.com/lrusak/xbmc/commits/drm-kms-vp
[15:47] <fritsch> on top of:
[15:48] <fritsch> https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/tree/vpupdates
[15:48] <fritsch> + the PR will give you hwaccel, too
[15:49] <bschaefer> ive not heard of PR, will it give you hwaccel outside that intel specific extension?
[15:50] <fritsch> PR: <- PullRequest
[15:50] <fritsch> git specific
[15:50] <bschaefer> pfft haha
[15:50] <fritsch> hehehe
[15:50] <fritsch> nope, we still use default vaapi
[15:50] <fritsch> + the R8 GR88 drm extension
[15:50] <bschaefer> yeah ive heard of that, was thinking something PR that gave you hwaccel outside of vaapi
[15:50] <fritsch> nope
[15:50] <fritsch> vdpau will die
[15:50] <fritsch> bound to X11
[15:50] <bschaefer> yay
[15:51] <fritsch> and we will consider wayland the new "default" in the near future
[15:51] <fritsch> now that you guys also transition
[15:51] <bschaefer> yeah that sounds perfectly reasonable
[15:51] <fritsch> though I will also give drm a try. I am mostly interested in the boot time
[15:51] <fritsch> anad the KMS to kodi transition
[15:52] <bschaefer> yeah, i cant imagine mir/wayland being much slower (not to many layers on top) but yeah direct kms will be faster
[15:52] <bschaefer> though you lose the *displayer* bit but since you're a fullsreen app anyway
[15:52] <fritsch> for appliances without the need for a browser
[15:52] <fritsch> drm kms directly is nice
[15:52] <bschaefer> yeah
[15:52] <fritsch> but when you need a window manager / browser whatever
[15:52] <bschaefer> i can only think if someone wants to run it on their desktop
[15:53] <fritsch> jep
[15:53] <bschaefer> in a display server those backends will be wanted