| ali1234 | diddledan: beer | 00:21 |
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| daftykins | there was an amusing piece on Radio 2 that spoke of easter being a common time for all sorts of DIY injuries due to folks having a crack at something over the break | 00:22 |
| ali1234 | yeah. plus beer | 00:22 |
| daftykins | cue my neighbour assembling some kind of wooden thing with a power tool earlier XD | 00:22 |
| daftykins | i wasn't referring to that :) | 00:22 |
| ali1234 | i bet there's a lot of DIY + beer going on tho | 00:23 |
| daftykins | oooh yes | 00:23 |
| zmoylan-pi | diy AND beer... darwins favourite | 00:39 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 07:04 |
| diddledan | hahahaha: https://youtu.be/6filPCtrt0c | 11:33 |
| zmoylan-pi | sadly fake... http://www.snopes.com/military/lighthouse.asp i think i first heard of this back in the 70s or 80s. they used it in an advert in the 90s for something or the other... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePi4dieDS8Y | 12:15 |
| m0nkey_ | Is the Galaxy S7 worth getting? I know it's just over a year old already. I'm just looking for a good phone that's cheap. The S7 I can get for $150 down. | 12:37 |
| zmoylan-pi | and you know after a year that it won't explode... but it will get a year less updates than the new shiny one | 12:38 |
| m0nkey_ | I may be able to get the LG G6 if I trade in an old device. | 12:38 |
| zmoylan-pi | so if you hold phones for a long time the update thing might be applicable | 12:38 |
| m0nkey_ | Two years, tops. | 12:38 |
| zmoylan-pi | so check if when the last update for the s5 was? | 12:39 |
| m0nkey_ | Aug 2016 | 12:39 |
| zmoylan-pi | not too bad... | 12:39 |
| zmoylan-pi | unless a doozy of a bug is found that doesn't get patched... | 12:40 |
| zmoylan-pi | so it might just cut short the last few months if a bug is found... | 12:41 |
| m0nkey_ | My work device, a Note 4, got an update Nov 16 | 12:42 |
| m0nkey_ | I can get the LG's latest G6. There is a minimum $400 credit for trading in an old iPhone 4. | 12:43 |
| m0nkey_ | I just so happen to have an old iPhone 4. | 12:43 |
| m0nkey_ | That would make it $100 down for the phone. | 12:43 |
| m0nkey_ | So, anyone tried the G6? :) | 12:43 |
| * zmoylan-pi still has an iphone 3g on a shelf charged for giving out the sms number to those annoying we need an sms number for | 12:43 | |
| charged | you called? | 12:54 |
| * zmoylan-pi tries to insert usb cable to make sure you're fully charged | 12:56 | |
| charged | lel | 12:56 |
| m0nkey_ | I just found three ants dragging a spider corpse. | 13:39 |
| diddledan | haha. that's impressive ambition | 13:39 |
| m0nkey_ | I looked over at the floor and saw this 'thing' moving. I could see it was a spider, but as it got closer, I noticed it wasn't actually moving itself. | 13:40 |
| zmoylan-pi | not as interesting of the story this week of ants dragging back injured ants to the nest after raiding termite nest | 13:45 |
| diddledan | noone left behind! | 13:46 |
| zmoylan-pi | they leave the dead and the ones that can't be saved... | 13:46 |
| foobarry | cash ISAs are a joke :( | 14:20 |
| foobarry | nobody wants my money | 14:20 |
| diddledan | you can give it to me | 14:21 |
| diddledan | I'll take anyone's money | 14:21 |
| diddledan | T&Cs apply | 14:21 |
| diddledan | specifically the T&C that I get to keep it | 14:21 |
| foobarry | maybe i need a peronal planner to sort all this out | 14:22 |
| foobarry | i had a bunch of money earning 0.05% because th ebank didn't tell me | 14:23 |
| foobarry | will you pay me interest diddledan | 14:23 |
| diddledan | no | 14:24 |
| foobarry | still on a par with most banks | 14:25 |
| foobarry | do i get a toy or money box? | 14:25 |
| diddledan | you get the warm fuzzy feeling that you've lost your money | 14:30 |
| foobarry | looks like ISAs are dying | 14:31 |
| foobarry | most banks are offering better rates on savngs accounts | 14:31 |
| diddledan | yeah, we use PCI now | 14:31 |
| foobarry | :P | 14:31 |
| foobarry | pcie | 14:31 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 14:31 |
| diddledan | gotta love that e | 14:31 |
| diddledan | PCI just isn't great unless it's pcie | 14:32 |
| diddledan | being serious for a moment about money, though: I think part of the problem is that interest rates set by the BoE are so low | 14:32 |
| foobarry | and that banks are thieves | 14:42 |
| foobarry | flipping you from 1% to 0.05% on an account you decide to withdraw at will is thieving | 14:43 |
| diddledan | yeah | 14:45 |
| diddledan | there is that | 14:45 |
| penguin42 | foobarry: I think they're offering approximately the same rate after tax on both - which is a rip off | 15:23 |
| foobarry | there's no tax on interest now | 15:26 |
| foobarry | not until you earn a lot | 15:26 |
| penguin42 | yeh well, there's the problem | 15:29 |
| foobarry | oh great. paid a load of savings money from one bank to another. only it hasn't arrived at the other | 15:31 |
| foobarry | and everyones off till tuesday now | 15:31 |
| penguin42 | the phone-banky people are still around | 15:37 |
| foobarry | it arrived phew | 15:58 |
| diddledan | let me guess. needed to be there for bills to be taken? | 16:15 |
| penguin42 | or just worried when a blob of money went | 16:24 |
| ali1234 | thanks for the plug popey | 17:33 |
| ali1234 | to who ever said "why cant the pi zero do this by default" - it can, you just have to use a normal USB cable | 17:33 |
| foobarry | do what ali1234 ? | 17:59 |
| directhex_ | we added a pi 1/0 compatible repo! http://www.mono-project.com/download/alpha/#download-lin-raspbian | 18:28 |
| brobostigon | :) | 18:28 |
| penguin42 | directhex_: That must have been a PITA - pi 1 is so uselessly different on the CPU | 18:35 |
| ali1234 | directhex_: does it have support for raspberry pi proprietary gpu drivers? | 18:36 |
| ali1234 | mono in general i mean | 18:36 |
| ali1234 | Qt does... | 18:36 |
| directhex_ | ali1234: "we have no product announcements to make at this time" | 18:38 |
| ali1234 | so not currently? | 18:39 |
| ali1234 | by "support" i mean "it might work" not "we guarantee it works" | 18:39 |
| MartijnVdS | Isn't there a sane GPU driver for the Pi now? | 18:40 |
| ali1234 | no. there is an open source one but there is nothing sane about it | 18:40 |
| MartijnVdS | why not? | 18:40 |
| ali1234 | the gpu architecture itself is insane | 18:40 |
| MartijnVdS | ah yes | 18:41 |
| ali1234 | directhex_: suite=alpha-raspbianjessie sections=main? | 18:41 |
| directhex_ | ali1234: right | 18:42 |
| ali1234 | what should i nstall if i just want to run things not develop? | 18:42 |
| directhex_ | ali1234: mono, at this point, just sees a normal desktop linux target on pi. there might be pi-centric libs on nuget tho | 18:42 |
| ali1234 | i have no desktop | 18:42 |
| ali1234 | so i guess this will effectively be command line only | 18:42 |
| directhex_ | mono-runtime is enough to run hello world | 18:42 |
| ali1234 | k | 18:43 |
| ali1234 | going to throw it into this: https://github.com/ali1234/rpi-ramdisk | 18:44 |
| directhex_ | strictly speaking it's enough to run `gacutil`, the command for registering system-wide .net libs. so that's more than just hello world | 18:44 |
| ali1234 | is "hello world" packaged so i can test it? | 18:45 |
| ali1234 | or something else... | 18:45 |
| ali1234 | directhex_: your repo is compatible with apt-cacher-ng.... docker's isn't :) | 18:49 |
| directhex_ | try `gacutil -l`? | 18:49 |
| ali1234 | okay | 18:49 |
| ali1234 | the postinst ran without any errors... | 18:50 |
| ali1234 | image size only increased by 19M compressed... that's pretty good | 18:51 |
| directhex_ | it'd be less without enough to run gacutil | 18:52 |
| ali1234 | booting... | 18:55 |
| ali1234 | it works :) | 18:55 |
| directhex_ | directhex@bubblegum:/tmp/test$ du -hs . | 18:57 |
| directhex_ | 7.3M. | 18:57 |
| directhex_ | directhex@bubblegum:/tmp/test$ MONO_PATH=. ./mono-sgen hello.exe | 18:57 |
| directhex_ | Hello, World! | 18:57 |
| ali1234 | i use multistrap so i get whatever is packaged, unless i start excluding things | 18:57 |
| ali1234 | image is built in qemu/fakechroot | 18:58 |
| ali1234 | foobarry: listen to the latest ubuntu podcast for context :) | 19:00 |
| directhex_ | actually, can do better on a per-embedded-app basis with `monolinker` | 19:04 |
| directhex_ | directhex@bubblegum:/tmp/test/output$ MONO_PATH=. ./mono-sgen hello.exe | 19:04 |
| directhex_ | Hello, World! | 19:04 |
| directhex_ | directhex@bubblegum:/tmp/test/output$ du -hs . | 19:04 |
| directhex_ | 5.8M. | 19:04 |
| directhex_ | monolinker is from the ios/android product. it scans an app's symbol dependencies, and removes unused symbols from the libraries it depends on to make app-specific minimalist versions of the libs | 19:05 |
| popey | np ali1234 | 20:17 |
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