| zcot1 | is 16.10 a good candidate to upgrade to 17, or should it be a straight install? | 05:42 |
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| xangua | Well you have to upgrade at some time | 05:43 |
| stardust95 | Hello ! | 09:48 |
| stardust95 | I have a wi-fi problem with xubuntu 17.04 32 bits, its a RTL8187B dongle, it can detect AP's but can't connect to them, it used to work in a fresh install of xubuntu 16.10 and in live usb, but with 17.04 in a fresh install or live usb it doesn't work. | 09:51 |
| stardust95 | dmesg shows this : | 09:52 |
| stardust95 | https://pastebin.com/Rj2rpAkv | 09:53 |
| stevehope | There is a related bug report discussion here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpasupplicant/+bug/872578 | 11:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 872578 in wpasupplicant (Ubuntu) "The infamous "deauthenticating by local choice (reason=3)"" [Undecided,Won't fix] | 11:11 |
| stardust95 | thank you stevehope, i didn't find this bg report while googling | 11:37 |
| stevehope | you're welcome I don't know the subject well enough to provide advice | 11:38 |
| stevehope | as a general search strategy I use as much of the error (only) as possible, in this case "local choice (Reason: 3=DEAUTH_LEAVING)" | 11:42 |
| stardust95 | yeah that's what iwas trying to do when i was waiting for an answer | 11:42 |
| stevehope | :) | 11:42 |
| stardust95 | in fact i ask it here because it's something that occur on fresh install for a chip that should work out of the box, so i expected that someone else could confirm this problem | 11:44 |
| stevehope | please file a bug against it, even if you resolve it | 11:45 |
| stardust95 | before doing this i wanted to be sure that it wasn't something i could resolve by myself | 11:46 |
| knome | or if it's the exact same bug as mentioned above, comment on the existing bug | 11:46 |
| stevehope | ^ | 11:46 |
| stardust95 | i read the above link, and it talks about disconnections after some minutes, whereas i can't connect at all to APs | 11:46 |
| stardust95 | i'll google a bit more | 11:46 |
| stardust95 | thx for your advices anyway | 11:47 |
| stevehope | I'm not sure if it;s the same scenario | 11:47 |
| stevehope | I read that too, and think your issue may have a different cause and resolution | 11:48 |
| stardust95 | yes | 11:48 |
| flux242 | i'll ask here too as nobody answers on the xfce channel | 11:48 |
| flux242 | hi, there's a notification logging page now in the xfce4-notifyd. So how do I show visual notifications from the volumed and skip logging them? Or more generally - how to disable logging for specific application without disabling their visual notifications? | 11:49 |
| stardust95 | you should already know it but did you take a look at xfce4-notifyd-config program ? | 11:52 |
| stardust95 | i don't know much about this | 11:52 |
| flux242 | that's the app i'm talkin about | 11:55 |
| stardust95 | oh ok | 11:55 |
| stevehope | stardust95 which iso are you working with? and what type of hardware? | 11:58 |
| stardust95 | @stevehope xubuntu 17.04 i386 | 12:00 |
| flux242 | if i understand it correct it's not possible. Then I must say that this is the most stupid ui implmentation possible to log notifications because it's not usable | 12:00 |
| stardust95 | @stevehope the dongle is an old trendnet, with rtl8187b chip | 12:02 |
| stardust95 | computer is a pentium 4, sis sf2-661fx v2 motherboard | 12:03 |
| stardust95 | don't know what much i can tell | 12:03 |
| stardust95 | i tried to connect to my android in ap mode to see if it was an incompatibility with my router | 12:04 |
| stardust95 | didn't work | 12:04 |
| stardust95 | worked with my android in usb thether mode | 12:04 |
| stardust95 | i'll try another dongle | 12:04 |
| stardust95 | the dongle works on my arch linux laptop | 12:10 |
| stardust95 | i tried another dongle on my xubuntu 17.04 i386 and it doesn't work | 12:10 |
| stevehope | is the dongle driver 64bit? | 12:10 |
| stardust95 | no why ? | 12:11 |
| stardust95 | the dongle was bout at windows xp time i guess, and it worked out of the box in xubuntu 16.10 | 12:12 |
| stardust95 | bought* | 12:12 |
| stardust95 | i made a clean install of xubuntu 17.04 | 12:12 |
| stardust95 | can't connect with any dongle, but can detect APs | 12:12 |
| stardust95 | during install i confirmed the installation of proprietary drivers | 12:13 |
| stardust95 | and the kernel module rtl8187 is loaded | 12:13 |
| stardust95 | so it should be a network manager problem | 12:13 |
| stevehope | i dont know the 32bit version well enough to add anything to what you already know | 12:14 |
| stardust95 | what's the difference with the 64bits version?$ | 12:14 |
| stardust95 | i mean what do you know about the 64 bits version ? | 12:15 |
| stardust95 | on google i found posts talking about crda settings but when changing the region to mine and rebooting it still does not work | 12:17 |
| stevehope | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit | 12:17 |
| stardust95 | owh i know that ahahah | 12:17 |
| stardust95 | i meant why couldn't you help the same way for 32 bits, its just a matter of compilation isn't it ? programs are rather the same | 12:19 |
| stevehope | I offered the little help I could, pointing out the related bug discussion, if I knew how to resolve your issue I would tell you | 12:21 |
| stardust95 | no it's just i don't understand your sentence "i dont know the 32bit version well enough to add anything to what you already know" | 12:22 |
| stardust95 | thank you for your help | 12:23 |
| stevehope | My thinking was a possible root cause was a mixture of 32bit and 64bit os/drivers, specifically a 64bit driver on your 32bit OS | 12:25 |
| stardust95 | ok i understand now | 12:25 |
| stardust95 | but as it is a fresh install, could there already be 64 bits drivers in the OS ? | 12:26 |
| stevehope | the package for i386 ISO, and scripts, etc, are different than the amd64 (64bit) version | 12:26 |
| stardust95 | ok i then should try the dongle with both i386 and amd64 isos on my 64 bits laptop | 12:27 |
| stevehope | if you want to check if your hardware can use 64bit: | 12:28 |
| stevehope | grep --color=always -iw lm /proc/cpuinfo | 12:28 |
| stevehope | if it returns lm you ok for 64bit | 12:28 |
| stardust95 | it's a intel pentium 4 socket 478 so i think it cannot but i'll check | 12:28 |
| stevehope | lm = long mode | 12:30 |
| stardust95 | it returns nothing | 12:30 |
| stardust95 | so i'll just have to try those 2 isos on my current laptop | 12:31 |
| stevehope | well your deffinately 32 bit then | 12:31 |
| stardust95 | yeah | 12:31 |
| stevehope | run the same on the other computer the donble is working with | 12:31 |
| stardust95 | so to recap it all : i have 2 different dongles, none can connect to APs but can detect APs, those two work on my arch linux 64 bit laptop | 12:32 |
| stevehope | sorry I meant check the installed os not hardware | 12:33 |
| stardust95 | so ill try both 32 et 64 bits xubuntu isos on this laptop | 12:33 |
| stevehope | 64bit will not work on a machine that does not return 'lm' from grep --color=always -iw lm /proc/cpuinfo | 12:34 |
| stardust95 | yes ? | 12:34 |
| stevehope | was confused by 'this laptop' | 12:34 |
| stardust95 | owh sorry | 12:35 |
| stardust95 | pc = pentium 4 32 bits | 12:35 |
| stardust95 | laptop = intel i5 64 bits | 12:35 |
| stardust95 | pc runs on xubuntu 17.04 32 bits and encounter the problem | 12:36 |
| stevehope | ah ok lol :P | 12:36 |
| stardust95 | laptop no problems at all | 12:36 |
| stardust95 | i agree i wasn't clear | 12:36 |
| stardust95 | so you agree that i just can try the two isos on my laptop now ? | 12:37 |
| stardust95 | especially the 32 bits one | 12:38 |
| stevehope | i would suggest you install the ISO to a usb, do a live session instead of install, check results, if all clear install (on the laptop i'ld strongly recommend 64bit, unless you have a compelling reason to use 32 | 12:39 |
| stardust95 | i meant trying both as live usb | 12:40 |
| stardust95 | coe for the pc pentium 4, even in live usb i couldn't connect to APs | 12:40 |
| stardust95 | coz* | 12:40 |
| stardust95 | my laptop as no pb, i'm writing to you with it XD | 12:41 |
| stevehope | by booting from USB, you are safe to do a live session with any Ubuntu family to try them, without changing installed version | 12:41 |
| stardust95 | yeah i know all that XD | 12:41 |
| stardust95 | i was asking if it was the last tests i could do to solve the pb | 12:41 |
| stardust95 | were* | 12:42 |
| stardust95 | anyway i'll check it out, i'l come back to tell you the results thanks for your help | 12:42 |
| stevehope | welcome | 12:43 |
| stardust95 | i'm back | 13:08 |
| stardust95 | same problem on xubuntu 17.04 32 bits on my 64 bits laptop | 13:08 |
| stardust95 | neither of my dongles can connect to APs, | 13:08 |
| stardust95 | the inbuilt wifi card can | 13:09 |
| stardust95 | I just came back to say that the problem occur on xubuntu 17.04 64 bits too | 15:34 |
| stardust95 | integrated wifi cards works, the usb wifi dongles see APs but can't connect | 15:35 |
| antimist | I hope someone's up | 16:12 |
| antimist | anyway, so, I just upgraded from XUbuntu 16.04 to 16.10 | 16:12 |
| antimist | and hoping to upgrade to 17.04 | 16:12 |
| antimist | unfortunately after reaching 16.04 | 16:13 |
| antimist | My GTK apps, like Gnome-terminal, firefox, and synaptic | 16:13 |
| antimist | seem to have weird GUI problems | 16:13 |
| antimist | any help | 16:13 |
| antimist | anyway, I found my problem, it was a problem with the theme | 16:18 |
| antimist | probably some compile thing, carried over from 16.04 | 16:18 |
| Guest2806 | How accessible is Xubuntu for blind Users? | 17:22 |
| xubuntu01w | looking for some help. Trying to install xubuntu on a virtualbox ( oracle VM) i tryed diffrent iso of xubuntu 17.04 but every time at the end i get a crash | 17:24 |
| xubuntu01w | after the crash it does boot with a error on whisker | 17:26 |
| xangua | Guest2806: I imagine the same as gnome, xubuntu includes orca | 17:35 |
| Guest2806 | But I can't activate the Screenreader, the Shortcut alt+super+S doesn't work. What can I do? | 17:37 |
| logan0405 | Hi I'm on Xubuntu 17.04 freshly installed over my Ubuntu setup, I'm trying to get a shared wifi hotspot to work like it did on Ubuntu, but it keeps saying 'Disconnected' when I try to fire it up | 19:47 |
| diogenes_ | try with kde nm connection editor | 19:49 |
| logan0405 | Yeah it's probably the manager I'm using is different from Ubuntu's. Would you happen to know which one Ubuntu uses? I know how to use that one quite well | 19:51 |
| diogenes_ | that one works fine, ubuntu's one is buggy | 19:53 |
| knome | however installing kde applications means you'll also install a lot of dependencies | 19:53 |
| diogenes_ | not that much | 19:54 |
| logan0405 | weird I think both Ubuntu and Xubuntu 17.04 are using nm-applet. Must be a different version I have never had a problem with it | 19:55 |
| knome | logan0405, if the wifi has a password, try setting it up (edit connetions... -> add) before connecting | 19:56 |
| logan0405 | I'm trying to create a shared wifi hotspot. It's the 'nm-connection-editor' application giving me trouble | 19:56 |
| diogenes_ | the first ever bug to discover with every new ubuntu release, it's a network manager bug | 19:57 |
| knome | diogenes_, can we please stop the negativity and start working on the solution? | 19:58 |
| logan0405 | ah is 17.04 still unstable? I wanted the new kernel as I would have to upgrade it anyway because of my hardware | 19:58 |
| knome | 17.04 is released, so shoudln't be unstable; if you need total stability you should always use the LTS's though | 19:59 |
| diogenes_ | knome, what negativity? bare facts, when ubuntu 16.04 was released there was a huge bug in network | 19:59 |
| diogenes_ | it was fixed only with 16.04.02 I guess | 20:00 |
| diogenes_ | and besides I already gave my solution | 20:00 |
| logan0405 | how can I install kde's diogenes_ ? I tried sudo apt-get install kde5-nm-connection-editor | 20:01 |
| logan0405 | not found | 20:01 |
| diogenes_ | logan0405, wait I'll find the repository | 20:01 |
| diogenes_ | logan0405, here (not sure it will work with 17 but worth trying): http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/06/share-internet-with-android-ubuntu-1404/ | 20:03 |
| Lavinho | good night | 21:53 |
| Lavinho | rtl872bs xubuntu 17.04 not working | 21:53 |
| Lavinho | help me | 21:53 |
| Lavinho | please | 21:53 |
| Lavinho | rtl8723bs | 21:54 |
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