[05:42] is 16.10 a good candidate to upgrade to 17, or should it be a straight install? [05:43] Well you have to upgrade at some time [09:48] Hello ! [09:51] I have a wi-fi problem with xubuntu 17.04 32 bits, its a RTL8187B dongle, it can detect AP's but can't connect to them, it used to work in a fresh install of xubuntu 16.10 and in live usb, but with 17.04 in a fresh install or live usb it doesn't work. [09:52] dmesg shows this : [09:53] https://pastebin.com/Rj2rpAkv [11:11] There is a related bug report discussion here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpasupplicant/+bug/872578 [11:11] Launchpad bug 872578 in wpasupplicant (Ubuntu) "The infamous "deauthenticating by local choice (reason=3)"" [Undecided,Won't fix] [11:37] thank you stevehope, i didn't find this bg report while googling [11:38] you're welcome I don't know the subject well enough to provide advice [11:42] as a general search strategy I use as much of the error (only) as possible, in this case "local choice (Reason: 3=DEAUTH_LEAVING)" [11:42] yeah that's what iwas trying to do when i was waiting for an answer [11:42] :) [11:44] in fact i ask it here because it's something that occur on fresh install for a chip that should work out of the box, so i expected that someone else could confirm this problem [11:45] please file a bug against it, even if you resolve it [11:46] before doing this i wanted to be sure that it wasn't something i could resolve by myself [11:46] or if it's the exact same bug as mentioned above, comment on the existing bug [11:46] ^ [11:46] i read the above link, and it talks about disconnections after some minutes, whereas i can't connect at all to APs [11:46] i'll google a bit more [11:47] thx for your advices anyway [11:47] I'm not sure if it;s the same scenario [11:48] I read that too, and think your issue may have a different cause and resolution [11:48] yes [11:48] i'll ask here too as nobody answers on the xfce channel [11:49] hi, there's a notification logging page now in the xfce4-notifyd. So how do I show visual notifications from the volumed and skip logging them? Or more generally - how to disable logging for specific application without disabling their visual notifications? [11:52] you should already know it but did you take a look at xfce4-notifyd-config program ? [11:52] i don't know much about this [11:55] that's the app i'm talkin about [11:55] oh ok [11:58] stardust95 which iso are you working with? and what type of hardware? [12:00] @stevehope xubuntu 17.04 i386 [12:00] if i understand it correct it's not possible. Then I must say that this is the most stupid ui implmentation possible to log notifications because it's not usable [12:02] @stevehope the dongle is an old trendnet, with rtl8187b chip [12:03] computer is a pentium 4, sis sf2-661fx v2 motherboard [12:03] don't know what much i can tell [12:04] i tried to connect to my android in ap mode to see if it was an incompatibility with my router [12:04] didn't work [12:04] worked with my android in usb thether mode [12:04] i'll try another dongle [12:10] the dongle works on my arch linux laptop [12:10] i tried another dongle on my xubuntu 17.04 i386 and it doesn't work [12:10] is the dongle driver 64bit? [12:11] no why ? [12:12] the dongle was bout at windows xp time i guess, and it worked out of the box in xubuntu 16.10 [12:12] bought* [12:12] i made a clean install of xubuntu 17.04 [12:12] can't connect with any dongle, but can detect APs [12:13] during install i confirmed the installation of proprietary drivers [12:13] and the kernel module rtl8187 is loaded [12:13] so it should be a network manager problem [12:14] i dont know the 32bit version well enough to add anything to what you already know [12:14] what's the difference with the 64bits version?$ [12:15] i mean what do you know about the 64 bits version ? [12:17] on google i found posts talking about crda settings but when changing the region to mine and rebooting it still does not work [12:17] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit [12:17] owh i know that ahahah [12:19] i meant why couldn't you help the same way for 32 bits, its just a matter of compilation isn't it ? programs are rather the same [12:21] I offered the little help I could, pointing out the related bug discussion, if I knew how to resolve your issue I would tell you [12:22] no it's just i don't understand your sentence "i dont know the 32bit version well enough to add anything to what you already know" [12:23] thank you for your help [12:25] My thinking was a possible root cause was a mixture of 32bit and 64bit os/drivers, specifically a 64bit driver on your 32bit OS [12:25] ok i understand now [12:26] but as it is a fresh install, could there already be 64 bits drivers in the OS ? [12:26] the package for i386 ISO, and scripts, etc, are different than the amd64 (64bit) version [12:27] ok i then should try the dongle with both i386 and amd64 isos on my 64 bits laptop [12:28] if you want to check if your hardware can use 64bit: [12:28] grep --color=always -iw lm /proc/cpuinfo [12:28] if it returns lm you ok for 64bit [12:28] it's a intel pentium 4 socket 478 so i think it cannot but i'll check [12:30] lm = long mode [12:30] it returns nothing [12:31] so i'll just have to try those 2 isos on my current laptop [12:31] well your deffinately 32 bit then [12:31] yeah [12:31] run the same on the other computer the donble is working with [12:32] so to recap it all : i have 2 different dongles, none can connect to APs but can detect APs, those two work on my arch linux 64 bit laptop [12:33] sorry I meant check the installed os not hardware [12:33] so ill try both 32 et 64 bits xubuntu isos on this laptop [12:34] 64bit will not work on a machine that does not return 'lm' from grep --color=always -iw lm /proc/cpuinfo [12:34] yes ? [12:34] was confused by 'this laptop' [12:35] owh sorry [12:35] pc = pentium 4 32 bits [12:35] laptop = intel i5 64 bits [12:36] pc runs on xubuntu 17.04 32 bits and encounter the problem [12:36] ah ok lol :P [12:36] laptop no problems at all [12:36] i agree i wasn't clear [12:37] so you agree that i just can try the two isos on my laptop now ? [12:38] especially the 32 bits one [12:39] i would suggest you install the ISO to a usb, do a live session instead of install, check results, if all clear install (on the laptop i'ld strongly recommend 64bit, unless you have a compelling reason to use 32 [12:40] i meant trying both as live usb [12:40] coe for the pc pentium 4, even in live usb i couldn't connect to APs [12:40] coz* [12:41] my laptop as no pb, i'm writing to you with it XD [12:41] by booting from USB, you are safe to do a live session with any Ubuntu family to try them, without changing installed version [12:41] yeah i know all that XD [12:41] i was asking if it was the last tests i could do to solve the pb [12:42] were* [12:42] anyway i'll check it out, i'l come back to tell you the results thanks for your help [12:43] welcome [13:08] i'm back [13:08] same problem on xubuntu 17.04 32 bits on my 64 bits laptop [13:08] neither of my dongles can connect to APs, [13:09] the inbuilt wifi card can [15:34] I just came back to say that the problem occur on xubuntu 17.04 64 bits too [15:35] integrated wifi cards works, the usb wifi dongles see APs but can't connect [16:12] I hope someone's up [16:12] anyway, so, I just upgraded from XUbuntu 16.04 to 16.10 [16:12] and hoping to upgrade to 17.04 [16:13] unfortunately after reaching 16.04 [16:13] My GTK apps, like Gnome-terminal, firefox, and synaptic [16:13] seem to have weird GUI problems [16:13] any help [16:18] anyway, I found my problem, it was a problem with the theme [16:18] probably some compile thing, carried over from 16.04 [17:22] How accessible is Xubuntu for blind Users? [17:24] looking for some help. Trying to install xubuntu on a virtualbox ( oracle VM) i tryed diffrent iso of xubuntu 17.04 but every time at the end i get a crash [17:26] after the crash it does boot with a error on whisker [17:35] Guest2806: I imagine the same as gnome, xubuntu includes orca [17:37] But I can't activate the Screenreader, the Shortcut alt+super+S doesn't work. What can I do? [19:47] Hi I'm on Xubuntu 17.04 freshly installed over my Ubuntu setup, I'm trying to get a shared wifi hotspot to work like it did on Ubuntu, but it keeps saying 'Disconnected' when I try to fire it up [19:49] try with kde nm connection editor [19:51] Yeah it's probably the manager I'm using is different from Ubuntu's. Would you happen to know which one Ubuntu uses? I know how to use that one quite well [19:53] that one works fine, ubuntu's one is buggy [19:53] however installing kde applications means you'll also install a lot of dependencies [19:54] not that much [19:55] weird I think both Ubuntu and Xubuntu 17.04 are using nm-applet. Must be a different version I have never had a problem with it [19:56] logan0405, if the wifi has a password, try setting it up (edit connetions... -> add) before connecting [19:56] I'm trying to create a shared wifi hotspot. It's the 'nm-connection-editor' application giving me trouble [19:57] the first ever bug to discover with every new ubuntu release, it's a network manager bug [19:58] diogenes_, can we please stop the negativity and start working on the solution? [19:58] ah is 17.04 still unstable? I wanted the new kernel as I would have to upgrade it anyway because of my hardware [19:59] 17.04 is released, so shoudln't be unstable; if you need total stability you should always use the LTS's though [19:59] knome, what negativity? bare facts, when ubuntu 16.04 was released there was a huge bug in network [20:00] it was fixed only with 16.04.02 I guess [20:00] and besides I already gave my solution [20:01] how can I install kde's diogenes_ ? I tried sudo apt-get install kde5-nm-connection-editor [20:01] not found [20:01] logan0405, wait I'll find the repository [20:03] logan0405, here (not sure it will work with 17 but worth trying): http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/06/share-internet-with-android-ubuntu-1404/ [21:53] good night [21:53] rtl872bs xubuntu 17.04 not working [21:53] help me [21:53] please [21:54] rtl8723bs === dreamon_ is now known as dreamon