[05:42] <zcot1> is 16.10 a good candidate to upgrade to 17, or should it be a straight install?
[05:43] <xangua> Well you have to upgrade at some time
[09:48] <stardust95> Hello !
[09:51] <stardust95> I have a wi-fi problem with xubuntu 17.04 32 bits, its a RTL8187B dongle, it can detect AP's but can't connect to them, it used to work in a fresh install of xubuntu 16.10 and in live usb, but with 17.04 in a fresh install or live usb it doesn't work.
[09:52] <stardust95> dmesg shows this :
[09:53] <stardust95> https://pastebin.com/Rj2rpAkv
[11:11] <stevehope> There is a related bug report discussion here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpasupplicant/+bug/872578
[11:37] <stardust95> thank you stevehope, i didn't find this bg report while googling
[11:38] <stevehope> you're welcome I don't know the subject well enough to provide advice
[11:42] <stevehope> as a general search strategy I use as much of the error (only) as possible, in this case "local choice (Reason: 3=DEAUTH_LEAVING)"
[11:42] <stardust95> yeah that's what iwas trying to do when i was waiting for an answer
[11:42] <stevehope> :)
[11:44] <stardust95> in fact i ask it here because it's something that occur on fresh install for a chip that should work out of the box, so i expected that someone else could confirm this problem
[11:45] <stevehope> please file a bug against it, even if you resolve it
[11:46] <stardust95> before doing this i wanted to be sure that it wasn't something i could resolve by myself
[11:46] <knome> or if it's the exact same bug as mentioned above, comment on the existing bug
[11:46] <stevehope> ^
[11:46] <stardust95> i read the above link, and it talks about disconnections after some minutes, whereas i can't connect at all to APs
[11:46] <stardust95> i'll google a bit more
[11:47] <stardust95> thx for your advices anyway
[11:47] <stevehope> I'm not sure if it;s the same scenario
[11:48] <stevehope> I read that too, and think your issue may have a different cause and resolution
[11:48] <stardust95> yes
[11:48] <flux242> i'll ask here too as nobody answers on the xfce channel
[11:49] <flux242> hi, there's a notification logging page now in the xfce4-notifyd. So how do I show visual notifications from the volumed and skip logging them? Or more generally - how to disable logging for specific application without disabling their visual notifications?
[11:52] <stardust95> you should already know it but did you take a look at xfce4-notifyd-config program ?
[11:52] <stardust95> i don't know much about this
[11:55] <flux242> that's the app i'm talkin about
[11:55] <stardust95> oh ok
[11:58] <stevehope> stardust95 which iso are you working with? and what type of hardware?
[12:00] <stardust95> @stevehope xubuntu 17.04 i386
[12:00] <flux242> if i understand it correct it's not possible. Then I must say that this is the most stupid ui implmentation possible to log notifications because it's not usable
[12:02] <stardust95> @stevehope the dongle is an old trendnet, with rtl8187b chip
[12:03] <stardust95> computer is a pentium 4, sis sf2-661fx v2 motherboard
[12:03] <stardust95> don't know what much i can tell
[12:04] <stardust95> i tried to connect to my android in ap mode to see if it was an incompatibility with my router
[12:04] <stardust95> didn't work
[12:04] <stardust95> worked with my android in usb thether mode
[12:04] <stardust95> i'll try another dongle
[12:10] <stardust95> the dongle works on my arch linux laptop
[12:10] <stardust95> i tried another dongle on my xubuntu 17.04 i386 and it doesn't work
[12:10] <stevehope> is the dongle driver 64bit?
[12:11] <stardust95> no why ?
[12:12] <stardust95> the dongle was bout at windows xp time i guess, and it worked out of the box in xubuntu 16.10
[12:12] <stardust95> bought*
[12:12] <stardust95> i made a clean install of xubuntu 17.04
[12:12] <stardust95> can't connect with any dongle, but can detect APs
[12:13] <stardust95> during install i confirmed the installation of proprietary drivers
[12:13] <stardust95> and the kernel module rtl8187 is loaded
[12:13] <stardust95> so it should be a network manager problem
[12:14] <stevehope> i dont know the 32bit version well enough to add anything to what you already know
[12:14] <stardust95> what's the difference with the 64bits version?$
[12:15] <stardust95> i mean what do you know about the 64 bits version ?
[12:17] <stardust95> on google i found posts talking about crda settings but when changing the region to mine and rebooting it still does not work
[12:17] <stevehope> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[12:17] <stardust95> owh i know that ahahah
[12:19] <stardust95> i meant why couldn't you help the same way for 32 bits, its just a matter of compilation isn't it ? programs are rather the same
[12:21] <stevehope> I offered the little help I could, pointing out the related bug discussion, if I knew how to resolve your issue I would tell you
[12:22] <stardust95> no it's just i don't understand your sentence "i dont know the 32bit version well enough to add anything to what you already know"
[12:23] <stardust95> thank you for your help
[12:25] <stevehope> My thinking was a possible root cause was a mixture of 32bit and 64bit os/drivers, specifically a 64bit driver on your 32bit OS
[12:25] <stardust95> ok i understand now
[12:26] <stardust95> but as it is a fresh install, could there already be 64 bits drivers in the OS ?
[12:26] <stevehope> the package for i386 ISO, and scripts, etc, are different than the amd64 (64bit) version
[12:27] <stardust95> ok i then should try the dongle with both i386 and amd64 isos on my 64 bits laptop
[12:28] <stevehope> if you want to check if your hardware can use 64bit:
[12:28] <stevehope> grep --color=always -iw lm /proc/cpuinfo
[12:28] <stevehope> if it returns lm  you ok for 64bit
[12:28] <stardust95> it's a intel pentium 4 socket 478 so i think it cannot but i'll check
[12:30] <stevehope> lm = long mode
[12:30] <stardust95> it returns nothing
[12:31] <stardust95> so i'll just have to try those 2 isos on my current laptop
[12:31] <stevehope> well your deffinately 32 bit then
[12:31] <stardust95> yeah
[12:31] <stevehope> run the same on the other computer the donble is working with
[12:32] <stardust95> so to recap it all : i have 2 different dongles, none can connect to APs but can detect APs, those two work on my arch linux 64 bit laptop
[12:33] <stevehope> sorry I meant check the installed os not hardware
[12:33] <stardust95> so ill  try both 32 et 64 bits xubuntu isos on this laptop
[12:34] <stevehope> 64bit will not work on a machine that does not return 'lm' from grep --color=always -iw lm /proc/cpuinfo
[12:34] <stardust95> yes ?
[12:34] <stevehope> was confused by 'this laptop'
[12:35] <stardust95> owh sorry
[12:35] <stardust95> pc = pentium 4 32 bits
[12:35] <stardust95> laptop = intel i5 64 bits
[12:36] <stardust95> pc runs on xubuntu 17.04 32 bits and encounter the problem
[12:36] <stevehope> ah ok lol :P
[12:36] <stardust95> laptop no problems at all
[12:36] <stardust95> i agree i wasn't clear
[12:37] <stardust95> so you agree that i just can try the two isos on my laptop now ?
[12:38] <stardust95> especially the 32 bits one
[12:39] <stevehope> i would suggest you install the ISO to a usb, do a live session instead of install, check results, if all clear install (on the laptop i'ld strongly recommend 64bit, unless you have a compelling reason to use 32
[12:40] <stardust95> i meant trying both as live usb
[12:40] <stardust95> coe for the pc pentium 4, even in live usb i couldn't connect to APs
[12:40] <stardust95> coz*
[12:41] <stardust95> my laptop as no pb, i'm writing to you with it XD
[12:41] <stevehope> by booting from USB, you are safe to do a live session with any Ubuntu family to try them, without changing installed version
[12:41] <stardust95> yeah i know all that XD
[12:41] <stardust95> i was asking if it was the last tests i could do to solve the pb
[12:42] <stardust95> were*
[12:42] <stardust95> anyway i'll check it out, i'l come back to tell you the results thanks for your help
[12:43] <stevehope> welcome
[13:08] <stardust95> i'm back
[13:08] <stardust95> same problem on xubuntu 17.04 32 bits on my 64 bits laptop
[13:08] <stardust95> neither of my dongles can connect to APs,
[13:09] <stardust95> the inbuilt wifi card can
[15:34] <stardust95> I just came back to say that the problem occur on xubuntu 17.04 64 bits too
[15:35] <stardust95> integrated wifi cards works, the usb wifi dongles see APs but can't connect
[16:12] <antimist> I hope someone's up
[16:12] <antimist> anyway, so, I just upgraded from XUbuntu 16.04 to 16.10
[16:12] <antimist> and hoping to upgrade to 17.04
[16:13] <antimist> unfortunately after reaching 16.04
[16:13] <antimist> My GTK apps, like Gnome-terminal, firefox, and synaptic
[16:13] <antimist> seem to have weird GUI problems
[16:13] <antimist> any help
[16:18] <antimist> anyway, I found my problem, it was a problem with the theme
[16:18] <antimist> probably some compile thing, carried over from 16.04
[17:22] <Guest2806> How accessible is Xubuntu for blind Users?
[17:24] <xubuntu01w> looking for some help. Trying to install xubuntu on a virtualbox ( oracle VM) i tryed diffrent iso of xubuntu 17.04 but every time at the end i get a crash
[17:26] <xubuntu01w> after the crash it does boot with a error on whisker
[17:35] <xangua> Guest2806: I imagine the same as gnome, xubuntu includes orca
[17:37] <Guest2806> But I can't activate the Screenreader, the Shortcut alt+super+S doesn't work. What can I do?
[19:47] <logan0405> Hi I'm on Xubuntu 17.04 freshly installed over my Ubuntu setup, I'm trying to get a shared wifi hotspot to work like it did on Ubuntu, but it keeps saying 'Disconnected' when I try to fire it up
[19:49] <diogenes_> try with kde nm connection editor
[19:51] <logan0405> Yeah it's probably the manager I'm using is different from Ubuntu's. Would you happen to know which one Ubuntu uses? I know how to use that one quite well
[19:53] <diogenes_> that one works fine, ubuntu's one is buggy
[19:53] <knome> however installing kde applications means you'll also install a lot of dependencies
[19:54] <diogenes_> not that much
[19:55] <logan0405> weird I think both Ubuntu and Xubuntu 17.04 are using nm-applet. Must be a different version I have never had a problem with it
[19:56] <knome> logan0405, if the wifi has a password, try setting it up (edit connetions... -> add) before connecting
[19:56] <logan0405> I'm trying to create a shared wifi hotspot. It's the 'nm-connection-editor' application giving me trouble
[19:57] <diogenes_> the first ever bug to discover with every new ubuntu release, it's a network manager bug
[19:58] <knome> diogenes_, can we please stop the negativity and start working on the solution?
[19:58] <logan0405> ah is 17.04 still unstable? I wanted the new kernel as I would have to upgrade it anyway because of my hardware
[19:59] <knome> 17.04 is released, so shoudln't be unstable; if you need total stability you should always use the LTS's though
[19:59] <diogenes_> knome, what negativity? bare facts, when ubuntu 16.04 was released there was a huge bug in network
[20:00] <diogenes_> it was fixed only with 16.04.02 I guess
[20:00] <diogenes_> and besides I already gave my solution
[20:01] <logan0405> how can I install kde's diogenes_ ? I tried  sudo apt-get install kde5-nm-connection-editor
[20:01] <logan0405> not found
[20:01] <diogenes_> logan0405, wait I'll find the repository
[20:03] <diogenes_> logan0405, here (not sure it will work with 17 but worth trying): http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/06/share-internet-with-android-ubuntu-1404/
[21:53] <Lavinho> good night
[21:53] <Lavinho> rtl872bs xubuntu 17.04 not working
[21:53] <Lavinho> help me
[21:53] <Lavinho> please
[21:54] <Lavinho> rtl8723bs