[02:55] <cihhan> hello all! i have made a mistake and did and dist-upgrade (i was using kubuntu 14). after the upgrade, I have been having frequent freezes. I am not sure why it is acting this way but it really makes the computer unusable. any suggestions on that?
[02:55] <cihhan>  while i was writing this message, it froze two times...
[03:01] <cihhan> any ideas? any suggestions? please...
[03:18] <valorie> cihhan: dist-upgrade is rarely a mistake
[03:18] <valorie> is there some reason you are using such an old version?
[03:19] <valorie> current is 17.04
[03:20] <valorie> I assume by "14" you mean 14.04, which is 3 years old now
[03:21] <cihhan> i was using it bcs i dont like dist-upgrade or upgrades with the possible issues like i m having now
[03:22] <cihhan> valorie: i dont know why but even right now it froze again while writing this message. whatever i write doesnt show up for 4-5 seconds and then they all appear.
[03:23] <valorie> you could run `htop` in a konsole
[03:23] <cihhan> after i press enter, it freezes again
[03:23] <valorie> see what is running when it freezes
[03:23] <valorie> or even `top`
[03:23] <valorie> htop gives more info
[03:24] <cihhan> trying now
[03:24] <valorie> upgrades are important to keep your system safe and running well
[03:24] <cihhan> i do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[03:24] <cihhan> frequently
[03:24] <cihhan> but not dist-upgrade
[03:24] <valorie> if you are running 14.04 rather than 14.04.5, you are running unmaintained software
[03:25] <valorie> ok
[03:25] <valorie> good
[03:25] <valorie> that still means that your applications are out-of-date
[03:25] <valorie> loooong out of date
[03:25] <valorie> some people need that, because of old hardware or so
[03:26] <cihhan> ok, i was seeing lots of firefox with very small amount of mem usage and i killed it
[03:27] <valorie> ff is usually pretty light, but OK
[03:27] <valorie> chrome is the hog
[03:27] <cihhan> but it didnt solve the issue yet
[03:27] <valorie> could be a graphic card glitch
[03:27] <cihhan> i also see something called baloo_file_extractor -- i wonder what it is
[03:28] <valorie> it is indexing your files
[03:28] <valorie> can be a hog at time as well
[03:28] <cihhan> valorie: i also thought about graphic card :/
[03:29] <valorie> how old is your box?
[03:29] <cihhan> 4-5 years
[03:30] <valorie> the laptop I'm using right now is just over 4 years old, and it seems to be burning out
[03:30] <valorie> :(
[03:30] <cihhan> but i7 and 16GB ram
[03:30] <valorie> replacing it next week, then I'll try to underclock it
[03:30] <valorie> see if I can nurse it along as a test box for awhile
[03:30] <valorie> does it feel hot?
[03:30] <cihhan> for laptops, 4 year is the life span for me
[03:30] <valorie> mine is overheating
[03:31] <valorie> even with the fan on high
[03:31] <valorie> which sucks
[03:31] <cihhan> nope, it feels all fine for me. not even fan noise right now
[03:31] <valorie> cool
[03:31] <valorie> literally
[03:31] <cihhan> except my msgs are freezing at this moment
[03:32] <cihhan> i started thinking that there might be two possible cases: 1. graphics card and 2. harddrive (just in case)
[03:32] <valorie> what software are you running?
[03:32] <valorie> well, HD doesn't cause freezing
[03:32] <cihhan> i havent seen anything in the logs
[03:32] <valorie> but graphics cards can overheat
[03:33] <valorie> my advice if you want it: do a thorough backup
[03:33] <cihhan> i m not running anything right now
[03:33] <cihhan> that s the issue
[03:33] <valorie> try something newer, like the newest 17.04
[03:33] <valorie> well, you are chatting here using *something*
[03:33] <cihhan> this doesnt look like some other monsterous process is killing all the resources
[03:34] <valorie> you have some rather old software
[03:34] <cihhan> rather, it feels like something is wrong with the drivers
[03:34] <valorie> ah
[03:34] <cihhan> i m using hexchat and yakuake and there is also teamviewer in the background waiting there
[03:35] <valorie> ok, hexchat and teamviewer are not KDE software
[03:35] <valorie> no clue if they are up-to-date or not
[03:35] <valorie> probably not, if you never dist-upgrade
[03:35] <valorie> which by the way is now full-upgrade
[03:36] <valorie> some still use dist-upgrade
[03:36] <cihhan> hmm, i ll try full-upgrade to see if it will upgrade
[03:37] <valorie> if you try out the newest on a liveUSB or liveDVD, you can see if newer software will help
[03:37] <cihhan> maybe it will help
[03:37] <valorie> that old LTS is still 3 years old
[03:37] <valorie> honestly, newer software is better
[03:37] <cihhan> in my mind, it s LTS
[03:38] <valorie> imo
[03:38] <valorie> sure
[03:38] <valorie> which is great for servers
[03:38] <cihhan> as lng as it doesnt break and get updated, i dont want to spend time with the problems like the one im having now so i m not really very keen on upgrades :(
[03:38] <valorie> or a production machine that must stay pretty much the same
[03:38] <valorie> ah
[03:38] <valorie> ok
[03:38] <valorie> we have the opposite POV
[03:39] <valorie> I want the latest that works
[03:40] <cihhan> that s the thing, latest that works but if it will cause me trobule, i generally go for waiting
[03:41] <valorie> sure, that's why I test
[03:42] <valorie> and work with others who test
[03:43] <valorie> but I get that not everyone wants or has the time to do that
[03:46] <cihhan> valorie: unfortunately. i mean i need to finish something for my deadline and the computer is freezing non-stop. apt-get full-upgrade installed 3 simple packages so im not sure if it will help but after that i ll try a reboot again.
[03:46] <valorie> sorry I couldn't help
[03:47] <valorie> please do a backup when you can
[03:48] <cihhan> actually after upgrade, it showed this
[03:48] <cihhan>  /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib32/nvidia-375/libEGL.so.1 is not a symbolic link
[03:48] <valorie> ah, you do have a driver issue then
[03:48] <valorie> unfortunately I have no clue how to fix that
[03:49] <valorie> people in #ubuntu might be more help
[03:49] <cihhan> no problem, thanx a lot through
[03:49] <valorie> since this is not specifically a Kubuntu issue
[03:49] <cihhan> im checking ubuntu's pages now to see what solutions they are suggesting
[03:49] <valorie> Easter weekend is hard to get people online sometimes
[03:49] <valorie> !egl
[03:49] <valorie> nope
[03:49] <valorie> !nvidia
[03:51] <cihhan> yep, thanks a lot
[03:51] <cihhan> im checking them now
[03:59] <cihhan> valorie: i have upgraded nvidia and set to the latest driver which helped it to be honest
[03:59] <cihhan> im hoping that this is the real solution
[03:59] <cihhan> fingers crossed
[04:09] <valorie> cool!
[05:19] <seeit> hello, I did a fresh install of kubuntu on a new machine and when I get to the login screen everything locks and no ui response
[05:19] <seeit> any ideas, had no errors during installation
[05:20] <diogenes_> nvidia/amd/lenovo?
[05:20] <seeit> The ui responds for about 2 seconds then no response
[05:20] <seeit> no
[05:52] <18WAARH80> if you press ctrl + alt + f1 does a command line come up?
[05:56] <valorie> seeit: control and alt and f2 or f3 or so
[05:56] <valorie> and then `sudo apt install -f`
[05:57] <valorie> where f equals fix
[05:58] <seeit> valorie: I think it's completely locked up since I can't get to a console
[06:00] <IrcsomeBot1> jayantseraph was added by: jayantseraph
 Hi, Im a noob to Kubuntu since UNITY is about to die .. but having DNS connectivity issues
 Firefox doesnt connect ... Chrome connects
[06:09] <valorie> seeit: you might have to try sysrq
[06:09] <valorie> !sysrq
[06:10] <valorie> and then get into a terminal and do hen `sudo apt install -f`
[06:11] <valorie> and perhaps then `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[06:11] <valorie> if it got botched, you perhaps have to repeat those a few times
[06:11] <valorie> but in general once will do
[06:14] <valorie> @jayantseraph at least you know http works
[06:15] <seeit> that didn't work, should I reinstall with letting it do the updates during installtion?
 @val
[06:21] <seeit> @valorie^
[06:23] <valorie> which part didn't work, seeit?
[06:23] <seeit> I held down alt+printscreen nothing happened, I then typed those keys, nothing happened
[06:23] <valorie> ah
[06:23] <valorie> try restarting
[06:24] <valorie> and getting into the terminal
[06:24] <seeit> what's a quick way to get into the terminal at boot?
[06:24] <valorie> if f2 or f3 don't work, try f4 or f5
[06:24] <valorie> or f1
[06:26] <valorie> sec
[06:26] <seeit> it's magically working now, wtf
[06:26] <seeit> Now i need to get it to boot with the graphics cards plugged in
[06:26] <valorie> ha
[06:26] <valorie> that's progress
[06:26] <seeit> was able to graphically log in
[06:26] <valorie> excellent!
[06:27] <seeit> Seriously tech is weird sometimes
[06:27] <seeit> It'll just start working by bitching about it on the internet
[06:27] <valorie> still a good idea to see if any updates are needed
[06:27] <valorie> there were a couple of zero-day changes
[06:27] <valorie> sec
 Is the problem related to a bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1624071 ??
[06:29] <seeit> Valorie It locked up trying to connect to the wireless, perhaps something is wrong with the hardware or what might be going on?
[06:32] <seeit> just repeated and it locked up on the wireless configuation again, gonna try wired
[08:32] <seeit> I'm having trouble booting to login after installing the rx 400 series ati drivers
[09:55] <sonne> hi, how do i change the behavior of kde-open? the "default applications" setting only shows very few entries, i'd like to change more - for example, i would like to change which application is opened when i click on a magnet url
[09:58] <Martok> Good morning. I installed 17.04 64 bit on my PC the other day. I have one wired etherenet that I connect to the internet, and the other wired port I share. For some reason it wont connect after I setup a shared connection. Any ideas how I can fix this?
[10:06] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:15] <Martok> BluesKaj: Good morning
[10:15] <BluesKaj> Hi  Martok
[10:20] <Martok> BluesKaj: I installed 17.04 64 bit on my PC the other day. I have one wired etherenet that I connect to the internet, and the other wired port I share. For some reason it wont connect after I setup a shared connection. Any ideas how I can fix this?
[10:22] <diogenes_> marted as duplicate :)
[10:22] <diogenes_> marked*
[10:22] <BluesKaj> what won't connect , and how is the connection shared Martok ?
[10:25] <Martok> I connect to the Internet with my first connection which works perfectly, but when I try to connect my shared connection it doesn't do anything.
[10:26] <Martok> What's odd is when i create the shared connection, it creates 2 shared connections. Shared (enp1s0) and Shared (enp3s0)
[10:27] <Martok> With all other versions the shared connection connected with no propblems.
[10:27] <BluesKaj> I still don't get how the actual connection is physiacally shared
[10:28] <BluesKaj> physically
[10:28] <Martok> I use a VPN on my PC, so I share the PC's connection out to a router via Ethernet
[10:29] <Martok> I have 2 Ethernet ports
[10:30] <Martok> It worked perfect with all other versions.
[10:31] <BluesKaj> ethernet ports on the router or on the pc?
[10:31] <Martok> On the PC
[10:37] <BluesKaj> so you're daisy chaining the 2nd ethernet with another pc which I've heard of , but with which I have no experience ,,, dunno how to help you , but I bet the #networking chat can help you
[10:37] <BluesKaj> Martok: ^
[10:37] <Martok> BluesKaj: Thank you
[10:38] <seeit> hi, i've got a pciex1 riser plugged into the pciex16 slot but it seems to be blocking the network from initializing during boot, any ideas how to fix this?
[10:57] <BluesKaj> Martok:  add the shared ethernet/enp0s name(s) to your /etc/network/interfaces file
[10:59] <BluesKaj> Martok:  you ca determine the ethernet/enp0s names by the 'ip add' command
[11:00] <BluesKaj> ca=cab
[11:00]  * BluesKaj sheds more light on the KB
[11:00] <BluesKaj> ca=can
[11:21] <Martok> BluesKaj: Just walked back in and saw your post. I have the "interfaces" file open. This is what it's showing now: https://paste.kde.org/p6tv2zsjb
[11:25] <BluesKaj> Martok:  add, auto enp0snames from the ip add command
[11:27] <Martok> BluesKaj: OK, thank you
[12:23] <karkoon> Hi. Does anyone else has problems with 17.04? I can't get the DE up and running. I think it fails on xorg. It says that it has a wrong major ABI version or something like that. I have an AMD R9 390. What should I do?
[12:27] <muhammet> s.a
[12:27] <muhammet> türkçe destek
[12:27] <muhammet> help
[12:29] <momken> karkoon: I don't have 17.04
[12:30] <momken> muhammet: What is your probrem?
[12:32] <muhammet> kubuntu 17.04 wifi connect
[12:39] <momken> hmmm. If your wifi uses broadcom you should try different broadcom drivers
[12:45] <muhammet> kubuntu-tr
[12:46] <BluesKaj> muhammet:  /j kubuntu-tr
[12:46] <muhammet> kubuntu tr help
[12:47] <BluesKaj> muhammet:  or /j #kubuntu-tr
[12:48] <muhammet> ok
[12:48] <muhammet> user list 0
[12:49] <karkoon> I have uninstalled amdgpu-pro and I think xorg started to use a default driver? I got to the login page but I've got a black screen after logging. There's a mouse cursor so maybe it's loading something.
[13:04] <diogenes_> karkoon, check is xorg.conf is still there
[13:05] <karkoon> diogenes_: xorg is running but I have a black screen after logging in. (I'll check if xorg.conf is there though.)
[13:06] <diogenes_> karkoon, do: ls /etc/X11/
[13:07] <karkoon> diogenes_: I think it's not there.
[13:08] <diogenes_> karkoon, ok
[13:08] <karkoon> there is a xorg.conf.d in /usr/share/X11
[13:10] <diogenes_> karkoon, I think its radeon that's causing the trouble
[13:11] <karkoon> plasmashell says that QXcbConnection Could not connect to display.
[13:11] <karkoon> diogenes_: Radeon like radeon driver or radeon like the gpu and I have to downgrade to 16.10?
[13:12] <diogenes_> karkoon, radeon gpu
[13:12] <karkoon> oh
[13:21] <karkoon> diogenes_: I'm wondering why would it cause trouble?
[13:22] <diogenes_> karkoon, did it work on 16.04?
[13:23] <karkoon> diogenes_: on 16.10, yeah
[13:24] <diogenes_> karkoon, then my advice to you is to read carefully the release notes of 17.04 and see what major changes it brings to the table
[13:25] <karkoon> okay
[13:29] <karkoon> diogenes_: ok. Something chabged. I've removed .Xauthority files in my home folder because of an advice from a forum. Now I had a .Xauthority file which was owned by root. I have changed it to my user and restarted. And it works.
[13:30] <karkoon> So... problem resolved. Now I just have to wait for 17.04 drivers from amd.
[13:30] <karkoon> Thanks for all your help.
[13:31] <diogenes_> karkoon, it's always recommended to remove every .folder and config file from /home before you install a system
[13:32] <karkoon> diogenes_: maybe for config files but I have some programs that want to be in a .folder and they don't only contain their configuration. (eg games have saves, executables and big stuff.)
[13:33] <diogenes_> karkoon, yeah, except programs
[13:33] <diogenes_> you can leave those
[13:34] <karkoon> i wonder if there's a list of common config files
 i dont like KDE Instant Log Viewer, IM Contact (Instant Messenger Contact), FeedReader, Akregator, KTorrent … How to remove it permanently?
[15:33] <clivejo> icibon remove the packages from your system
 @clivejo, How?
 How to get the package name?
[15:37] <clivejo> @icibon using a package manager or terminal
[15:38] <clivejo> for example in Muon, search for ktorrent and mark it for removal
[15:39] <clivejo> or in the terminal "sudo apt remove ktorrent"
[15:40] <ronnoc> IrcsomeBot1: sudo apt-get purge <program1> <program2> etc.
[15:41] <ronnoc> if you want config files gone as well
[15:41] <ronnoc> o/ clivejo
[15:42] <clivejo> hi ronnoc
 @ronnoc> IrcsomeBot1: sudo apt-get purge <program1> <program2, Will it remove the dependency also?
[15:43] <ronnoc> IrcsomeBot1: It should unless other programs installed also need it
 So, is it safe using purge?
[15:44] <clivejo> if you really dont want the IM stuff and want rid you could just blitz telepathy
[15:44] <ronnoc> It 'should' show a confirmation before performing the action
 I checked dpkg - l
[15:45] <clivejo> purge would be more appropriate if you never intend to use it again
[15:51] <clivejo> maybe something like "sudo apt purge *telepathy*" to kill the entire IM stack ?
[15:51] <clivejo> do you use the other parts of PIM?
[16:08] <ronnoc> speaking of pkg mgt, is Muon a KDE app these days, or still under the Kubuntu umbrella?
 @clivejo, What is it PIM ?
[16:22] <ronnoc> !kdepim
[16:23] <ronnoc> hmmm
[16:23] <ronnoc> it's the PIM (personal information management suite) from KDE
[16:23] <ronnoc> https://community.kde.org/KDE_PIM
[17:37] <Tweak> hello. just wondering if anyone knows, what packages need to be installed in order to properly use gnome icon themes?
[17:51] <BluesKaj> Tweak:  system settings>applications style>hnome applications style>gtk themes
[17:51] <BluesKaj> hnome=gnome
[17:52] <Tweak> BluesKaj: thanks for the reply. I mean to use a gnome icon theme on the KDE desktop for everything
[17:53] <BluesKaj> then run gnome
[17:55] <BluesKaj> Tweak:  or system settings>workspacr theme>desktop themeget new theme type in gnome>
[17:56] <Tweak> okay. thanks.
[17:57] <BluesKaj> Tweak: correction, system settings>workspacr theme>desktop theme>get new theme>type in gnome
[17:58] <Dragnslcr> You can also look through https://store.kde.org/browse/cat/132/ for something you like
[18:00] <Tweak> ty
[20:35] <hosam> hello
[22:35] <AppAraat> hi, in KDE Plasma, can different activities have different amount of virtual desktops? Like activity A has 4 and B has 8 etc.
[22:38] <valorie> AppAraat: as far as I know, yet
[22:38] <valorie> yes
[22:40] <AppAraat> interesting, I couldn't find the option to set it that way. When I removed virtual desktops in one activity they also got removed in the other.
[22:40] <valorie> strange
[22:40] <valorie> I would call that a bug
[22:41] <AppAraat> shouldn't it be by default like this though? Where can I find the option to (un)set it? Perhaps I can try messing with the option.
[22:42] <valorie> I don't know, my computer use is all one big activity
[22:44] <AppAraat> k, I'll keep searching.
[23:11] <mattpalermo> Hello Kubuntu community. Is anyone available to help me through the process of submitting a bug report? I have been collecting all the information I can about the problem over the past few days, so I do have something to contribute. I am also not afraid to run any experiments that you suggest (e.g. installing a different kernel).
[23:20] <clivejo> mattpalermo: what is the problem?
[23:22] <mattpalermo> Hi clivejo. I havea problem where the wireless network will stop working after about 10 to 30 minutes. The network icon in the task bar still tells me I am connected but requests to the network timeout. Disconnecting from the network and reconnecting fixes the problem.
[23:23] <mattpalermo> The problem is highly repeatable if I wait 10 to 30 minutes.
[23:23] <clivejo> have you checked the system logs?
[23:25] <mattpalermo> I have. I have done the following process twice to collect system logs for the problem: Reboot system, wait for problem to occur, save the system log. Would you like to take a look at them?
[23:26] <clivejo> can you pastebit it?
[23:26] <clivejo> !pastebin
[23:27] <mattpalermo> Thankyou. I'll create an identity.kde.org account and paste bin it.
[23:27] <clivejo> you dont need to
[23:28] <clivejo> or you could use https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[23:30] <mattpalermo> When I follow paste.kde.org it asks me to log in. It won't take me too long.
[23:30] <clivejo> I have to go soon
[23:30] <clivejo> getting late here!
[23:31] <mattpalermo> I'll use the ubuntu one for brevity :)
[23:32] <mattpalermo> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24397218/
[23:32] <mattpalermo> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24397220/
[23:36] <clivejo> is your network IPv6 enabled?
[23:38] <clivejo> 15/4/17 11:52 AM	dhclient	XMT: Info-Request on wlp3s0, interval 33930ms.
[23:38] <clivejo> 15/4/17 11:53 AM	NetworkManager	<warn>  [1492221191.0506] dhcp6 (wlp3s0): request timed out
[23:39] <clivejo> 15/4/17 11:32 AM	dhclient	XMT: Info-Request on wlp3s0, interval 36240ms.
[23:39] <clivejo> 15/4/17 11:33 AM	NetworkManager	<warn>  [1492219985.6132] dhcp6 (wlp3s0): request timed out
[23:40] <clivejo> both times a dhcp6 request has timed out
[23:41] <mattpalermo> I think I disconnected... did I miss anything?
[23:42] <clivejo> both times the dhcp6 request failed
[23:42] <clivejo> do you use IPv6?
[23:44] <clivejo> if you don't use it, I would suggest disabling it as a test
[23:45] <mattpalermo> well, I'm not sure. But I tried `ping6 www.google.com` and I got `connect: Network is unreachable` and ping4 operated normally. So I think I am using only IPv4. I will disable it as a test. That test will take a while though. If you have any other suggestions I will try them out as well today, but I suspect you will be asleep before I finish testing.
[23:46] <valorie> it seems that many ISPs have been not dealing with IPv6 well
[23:47] <clivejo> in the connection settings, go to config and select the connection, then go to the IPv6 tab and change method to Ignored
[23:48] <mattpalermo> clivejo: Thanks, I have done that. I will switch to wifi now and see how long I last :)
[23:48] <clivejo> it only do it on wifi?
[23:49] <mattpalermo> clivejo: Yea, Ethernet works perfectly (thank goodness)
[23:49] <clivejo> could be a wifi driver issue with IPv6
[23:50] <mattpalermo> Perhaps. I am running a realtek RTL8821AE. I am now wondering if I should buy an atheros card :P
[23:58] <Menzador> !pastebin | confirming