[02:55] hello all! i have made a mistake and did and dist-upgrade (i was using kubuntu 14). after the upgrade, I have been having frequent freezes. I am not sure why it is acting this way but it really makes the computer unusable. any suggestions on that? [02:55] while i was writing this message, it froze two times... [03:01] any ideas? any suggestions? please... === MCMXI is now known as NineteenEleven === NineteenEleven is now known as MCMXI [03:18] cihhan: dist-upgrade is rarely a mistake [03:18] is there some reason you are using such an old version? [03:19] current is 17.04 [03:20] I assume by "14" you mean 14.04, which is 3 years old now [03:21] i was using it bcs i dont like dist-upgrade or upgrades with the possible issues like i m having now [03:22] valorie: i dont know why but even right now it froze again while writing this message. whatever i write doesnt show up for 4-5 seconds and then they all appear. [03:23] you could run `htop` in a konsole [03:23] after i press enter, it freezes again [03:23] see what is running when it freezes [03:23] or even `top` [03:23] htop gives more info [03:24] trying now [03:24] upgrades are important to keep your system safe and running well [03:24] i do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade [03:24] frequently [03:24] but not dist-upgrade [03:24] if you are running 14.04 rather than 14.04.5, you are running unmaintained software [03:25] ok [03:25] good [03:25] that still means that your applications are out-of-date [03:25] loooong out of date [03:25] some people need that, because of old hardware or so [03:26] ok, i was seeing lots of firefox with very small amount of mem usage and i killed it [03:27] ff is usually pretty light, but OK [03:27] chrome is the hog [03:27] but it didnt solve the issue yet [03:27] could be a graphic card glitch [03:27] i also see something called baloo_file_extractor -- i wonder what it is [03:28] it is indexing your files [03:28] can be a hog at time as well [03:28] valorie: i also thought about graphic card :/ [03:29] how old is your box? [03:29] 4-5 years [03:30] the laptop I'm using right now is just over 4 years old, and it seems to be burning out [03:30] :( [03:30] but i7 and 16GB ram [03:30] replacing it next week, then I'll try to underclock it [03:30] see if I can nurse it along as a test box for awhile [03:30] does it feel hot? [03:30] for laptops, 4 year is the life span for me [03:30] mine is overheating [03:31] even with the fan on high [03:31] which sucks [03:31] nope, it feels all fine for me. not even fan noise right now [03:31] cool [03:31] literally [03:31] except my msgs are freezing at this moment [03:32] i started thinking that there might be two possible cases: 1. graphics card and 2. harddrive (just in case) [03:32] what software are you running? [03:32] well, HD doesn't cause freezing [03:32] i havent seen anything in the logs [03:32] but graphics cards can overheat [03:33] my advice if you want it: do a thorough backup [03:33] i m not running anything right now [03:33] that s the issue [03:33] try something newer, like the newest 17.04 [03:33] well, you are chatting here using *something* [03:33] this doesnt look like some other monsterous process is killing all the resources [03:34] you have some rather old software [03:34] rather, it feels like something is wrong with the drivers [03:34] ah [03:34] i m using hexchat and yakuake and there is also teamviewer in the background waiting there [03:35] ok, hexchat and teamviewer are not KDE software [03:35] no clue if they are up-to-date or not [03:35] probably not, if you never dist-upgrade [03:35] which by the way is now full-upgrade [03:36] some still use dist-upgrade [03:36] hmm, i ll try full-upgrade to see if it will upgrade [03:37] if you try out the newest on a liveUSB or liveDVD, you can see if newer software will help [03:37] maybe it will help [03:37] that old LTS is still 3 years old [03:37] honestly, newer software is better [03:37] in my mind, it s LTS [03:38] imo [03:38] sure [03:38] which is great for servers [03:38] as lng as it doesnt break and get updated, i dont want to spend time with the problems like the one im having now so i m not really very keen on upgrades :( [03:38] or a production machine that must stay pretty much the same [03:38] ah [03:38] ok [03:38] we have the opposite POV [03:39] I want the latest that works [03:40] that s the thing, latest that works but if it will cause me trobule, i generally go for waiting [03:41] sure, that's why I test [03:42] and work with others who test [03:43] but I get that not everyone wants or has the time to do that [03:46] valorie: unfortunately. i mean i need to finish something for my deadline and the computer is freezing non-stop. apt-get full-upgrade installed 3 simple packages so im not sure if it will help but after that i ll try a reboot again. [03:46] sorry I couldn't help [03:47] please do a backup when you can [03:48] actually after upgrade, it showed this [03:48] /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib32/nvidia-375/libEGL.so.1 is not a symbolic link [03:48] ah, you do have a driver issue then [03:48] unfortunately I have no clue how to fix that [03:49] people in #ubuntu might be more help [03:49] no problem, thanx a lot through [03:49] since this is not specifically a Kubuntu issue [03:49] im checking ubuntu's pages now to see what solutions they are suggesting [03:49] Easter weekend is hard to get people online sometimes [03:49] !egl [03:49] nope [03:49] !nvidia [03:49] For nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing » [03:51] yep, thanks a lot [03:51] im checking them now === kubuntu is now known as Guest90937 [03:59] valorie: i have upgraded nvidia and set to the latest driver which helped it to be honest [03:59] im hoping that this is the real solution [03:59] fingers crossed [04:09] cool! [05:19] hello, I did a fresh install of kubuntu on a new machine and when I get to the login screen everything locks and no ui response [05:19] any ideas, had no errors during installation [05:20] nvidia/amd/lenovo? [05:20] The ui responds for about 2 seconds then no response [05:20] no [05:52] <18WAARH80> if you press ctrl + alt + f1 does a command line come up? [05:56] seeit: control and alt and f2 or f3 or so [05:56] and then `sudo apt install -f` [05:57] where f equals fix [05:58] valorie: I think it's completely locked up since I can't get to a console [06:00] jayantseraph was added by: jayantseraph [06:02] Hi, Im a noob to Kubuntu since UNITY is about to die .. but having DNS connectivity issues [06:03] Firefox doesnt connect ... Chrome connects [06:09] seeit: you might have to try sysrq [06:09] !sysrq [06:09] In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [06:10] and then get into a terminal and do hen `sudo apt install -f` [06:11] and perhaps then `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade` [06:11] if it got botched, you perhaps have to repeat those a few times [06:11] but in general once will do [06:14] @jayantseraph at least you know http works [06:15] that didn't work, should I reinstall with letting it do the updates during installtion? [06:16] @val [06:21] @valorie^ [06:23] which part didn't work, seeit? [06:23] I held down alt+printscreen nothing happened, I then typed those keys, nothing happened [06:23] ah [06:23] try restarting [06:24] and getting into the terminal [06:24] what's a quick way to get into the terminal at boot? [06:24] if f2 or f3 don't work, try f4 or f5 [06:24] or f1 [06:26] sec [06:26] it's magically working now, wtf [06:26] Now i need to get it to boot with the graphics cards plugged in [06:26] ha [06:26] that's progress [06:26] was able to graphically log in [06:26] excellent! [06:27] Seriously tech is weird sometimes [06:27] It'll just start working by bitching about it on the internet [06:27] still a good idea to see if any updates are needed [06:27] there were a couple of zero-day changes [06:27] sec [06:28] Is the problem related to a bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1624071 ?? [06:28] Launchpad bug 1624071 in systemd (Ubuntu) "libnss-resolve: Fallback from resolve to dns breaks DNSSEC validation" [Medium,Fix released] [06:29] Valorie It locked up trying to connect to the wireless, perhaps something is wrong with the hardware or what might be going on? [06:32] just repeated and it locked up on the wireless configuation again, gonna try wired === usuario2 is now known as NatashaHack [08:32] I'm having trouble booting to login after installing the rx 400 series ati drivers [09:55] hi, how do i change the behavior of kde-open? the "default applications" setting only shows very few entries, i'd like to change more - for example, i would like to change which application is opened when i click on a magnet url [09:58] Good morning. I installed 17.04 64 bit on my PC the other day. I have one wired etherenet that I connect to the internet, and the other wired port I share. For some reason it wont connect after I setup a shared connection. Any ideas how I can fix this? [10:06] 'Morning folks [10:15] BluesKaj: Good morning [10:15] Hi Martok [10:20] BluesKaj: I installed 17.04 64 bit on my PC the other day. I have one wired etherenet that I connect to the internet, and the other wired port I share. For some reason it wont connect after I setup a shared connection. Any ideas how I can fix this? [10:22] marted as duplicate :) [10:22] marked* [10:22] what won't connect , and how is the connection shared Martok ? [10:25] I connect to the Internet with my first connection which works perfectly, but when I try to connect my shared connection it doesn't do anything. [10:26] What's odd is when i create the shared connection, it creates 2 shared connections. Shared (enp1s0) and Shared (enp3s0) [10:27] With all other versions the shared connection connected with no propblems. [10:27] I still don't get how the actual connection is physiacally shared [10:28] physically [10:28] I use a VPN on my PC, so I share the PC's connection out to a router via Ethernet [10:29] I have 2 Ethernet ports [10:30] It worked perfect with all other versions. [10:31] ethernet ports on the router or on the pc? [10:31] On the PC [10:37] so you're daisy chaining the 2nd ethernet with another pc which I've heard of , but with which I have no experience ,,, dunno how to help you , but I bet the #networking chat can help you [10:37] Martok: ^ [10:37] BluesKaj: Thank you [10:38] hi, i've got a pciex1 riser plugged into the pciex16 slot but it seems to be blocking the network from initializing during boot, any ideas how to fix this? [10:57] Martok: add the shared ethernet/enp0s name(s) to your /etc/network/interfaces file [10:59] Martok: you ca determine the ethernet/enp0s names by the 'ip add' command [11:00] ca=cab [11:00] * BluesKaj sheds more light on the KB [11:00] ca=can === astro is now known as astro_ === astro_ is now known as astro === astro is now known as astro__ [11:21] BluesKaj: Just walked back in and saw your post. I have the "interfaces" file open. This is what it's showing now: https://paste.kde.org/p6tv2zsjb [11:25] Martok: add, auto enp0snames from the ip add command [11:27] BluesKaj: OK, thank you [12:23] Hi. Does anyone else has problems with 17.04? I can't get the DE up and running. I think it fails on xorg. It says that it has a wrong major ABI version or something like that. I have an AMD R9 390. What should I do? [12:27] s.a [12:27] türkçe destek [12:27] help [12:29] karkoon: I don't have 17.04 [12:30] muhammet: What is your probrem? [12:32] kubuntu 17.04 wifi connect [12:39] hmmm. If your wifi uses broadcom you should try different broadcom drivers [12:45] kubuntu-tr [12:46] muhammet: /j kubuntu-tr [12:46] kubuntu tr help [12:47] muhammet: or /j #kubuntu-tr [12:48] ok [12:48] user list 0 [12:49] I have uninstalled amdgpu-pro and I think xorg started to use a default driver? I got to the login page but I've got a black screen after logging. There's a mouse cursor so maybe it's loading something. [13:04] karkoon, check is xorg.conf is still there [13:05] diogenes_: xorg is running but I have a black screen after logging in. (I'll check if xorg.conf is there though.) [13:06] karkoon, do: ls /etc/X11/ [13:07] diogenes_: I think it's not there. [13:08] karkoon, ok [13:08] there is a xorg.conf.d in /usr/share/X11 [13:10] karkoon, I think its radeon that's causing the trouble [13:11] plasmashell says that QXcbConnection Could not connect to display. [13:11] diogenes_: Radeon like radeon driver or radeon like the gpu and I have to downgrade to 16.10? [13:12] karkoon, radeon gpu [13:12] oh [13:21] diogenes_: I'm wondering why would it cause trouble? [13:22] karkoon, did it work on 16.04? [13:23] diogenes_: on 16.10, yeah [13:24] karkoon, then my advice to you is to read carefully the release notes of 17.04 and see what major changes it brings to the table [13:25] okay [13:29] diogenes_: ok. Something chabged. I've removed .Xauthority files in my home folder because of an advice from a forum. Now I had a .Xauthority file which was owned by root. I have changed it to my user and restarted. And it works. [13:30] So... problem resolved. Now I just have to wait for 17.04 drivers from amd. [13:30] Thanks for all your help. [13:31] karkoon, it's always recommended to remove every .folder and config file from /home before you install a system [13:32] diogenes_: maybe for config files but I have some programs that want to be in a .folder and they don't only contain their configuration. (eg games have saves, executables and big stuff.) [13:33] karkoon, yeah, except programs [13:33] you can leave those [13:34] i wonder if there's a list of common config files [14:28] i dont like KDE Instant Log Viewer, IM Contact (Instant Messenger Contact), FeedReader, Akregator, KTorrent … How to remove it permanently? [15:33] icibon remove the packages from your system [15:37] @clivejo, How? [15:37] How to get the package name? [15:37] @icibon using a package manager or terminal [15:38] for example in Muon, search for ktorrent and mark it for removal [15:39] or in the terminal "sudo apt remove ktorrent" [15:40] IrcsomeBot1: sudo apt-get purge etc. [15:41] if you want config files gone as well [15:41] o/ clivejo [15:42] hi ronnoc [15:42] @ronnoc> IrcsomeBot1: sudo apt-get purge IrcsomeBot1: It should unless other programs installed also need it [15:44] So, is it safe using purge? [15:44] if you really dont want the IM stuff and want rid you could just blitz telepathy [15:44] It 'should' show a confirmation before performing the action [15:44] I checked dpkg - l [15:45] purge would be more appropriate if you never intend to use it again [15:51] maybe something like "sudo apt purge *telepathy*" to kill the entire IM stack ? [15:51] do you use the other parts of PIM? [16:08] speaking of pkg mgt, is Muon a KDE app these days, or still under the Kubuntu umbrella? [16:10] @clivejo, What is it PIM ? === bonte is now known as bonte____ [16:22] !kdepim [16:23] hmmm [16:23] it's the PIM (personal information management suite) from KDE [16:23] https://community.kde.org/KDE_PIM [17:37] hello. just wondering if anyone knows, what packages need to be installed in order to properly use gnome icon themes? [17:51] Tweak: system settings>applications style>hnome applications style>gtk themes [17:51] hnome=gnome [17:52] BluesKaj: thanks for the reply. I mean to use a gnome icon theme on the KDE desktop for everything [17:53] then run gnome [17:55] Tweak: or system settings>workspacr theme>desktop themeget new theme type in gnome> [17:56] okay. thanks. [17:57] Tweak: correction, system settings>workspacr theme>desktop theme>get new theme>type in gnome [17:58] You can also look through https://store.kde.org/browse/cat/132/ for something you like [18:00] ty === faLUCE is now known as MotoTopo_ === goovie_ is now known as goovie [20:35] hello === hosam is now known as hosam_ === hosam_ is now known as hosam__ === hosam__ is now known as hosam === dan_ is now known as Guest21063 === marcos is now known as Guest17700 [22:35] hi, in KDE Plasma, can different activities have different amount of virtual desktops? Like activity A has 4 and B has 8 etc. [22:38] AppAraat: as far as I know, yet [22:38] yes [22:40] interesting, I couldn't find the option to set it that way. When I removed virtual desktops in one activity they also got removed in the other. [22:40] strange [22:40] I would call that a bug [22:41] shouldn't it be by default like this though? Where can I find the option to (un)set it? Perhaps I can try messing with the option. [22:42] I don't know, my computer use is all one big activity [22:44] k, I'll keep searching. [23:11] Hello Kubuntu community. Is anyone available to help me through the process of submitting a bug report? I have been collecting all the information I can about the problem over the past few days, so I do have something to contribute. I am also not afraid to run any experiments that you suggest (e.g. installing a different kernel). [23:20] mattpalermo: what is the problem? [23:22] Hi clivejo. I havea problem where the wireless network will stop working after about 10 to 30 minutes. The network icon in the task bar still tells me I am connected but requests to the network timeout. Disconnecting from the network and reconnecting fixes the problem. [23:23] The problem is highly repeatable if I wait 10 to 30 minutes. [23:23] have you checked the system logs? [23:25] I have. I have done the following process twice to collect system logs for the problem: Reboot system, wait for problem to occur, save the system log. Would you like to take a look at them? [23:26] can you pastebit it? [23:26] !pastebin [23:26] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.kde.org | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [23:27] Thankyou. I'll create an identity.kde.org account and paste bin it. [23:27] you dont need to [23:28] or you could use https://paste.ubuntu.com/ [23:30] When I follow paste.kde.org it asks me to log in. It won't take me too long. [23:30] I have to go soon [23:30] getting late here! [23:31] I'll use the ubuntu one for brevity :) [23:32] https://paste.ubuntu.com/24397218/ [23:32] https://paste.ubuntu.com/24397220/ [23:36] is your network IPv6 enabled? [23:38] 15/4/17 11:52 AM dhclient XMT: Info-Request on wlp3s0, interval 33930ms. [23:38] 15/4/17 11:53 AM NetworkManager [1492221191.0506] dhcp6 (wlp3s0): request timed out [23:39] 15/4/17 11:32 AM dhclient XMT: Info-Request on wlp3s0, interval 36240ms. [23:39] 15/4/17 11:33 AM NetworkManager [1492219985.6132] dhcp6 (wlp3s0): request timed out [23:40] both times a dhcp6 request has timed out [23:41] I think I disconnected... did I miss anything? [23:42] both times the dhcp6 request failed [23:42] do you use IPv6? [23:44] if you don't use it, I would suggest disabling it as a test [23:45] well, I'm not sure. But I tried `ping6 www.google.com` and I got `connect: Network is unreachable` and ping4 operated normally. So I think I am using only IPv4. I will disable it as a test. That test will take a while though. If you have any other suggestions I will try them out as well today, but I suspect you will be asleep before I finish testing. [23:46] it seems that many ISPs have been not dealing with IPv6 well [23:47] in the connection settings, go to config and select the connection, then go to the IPv6 tab and change method to Ignored [23:48] clivejo: Thanks, I have done that. I will switch to wifi now and see how long I last :) [23:48] it only do it on wifi? [23:49] clivejo: Yea, Ethernet works perfectly (thank goodness) === valorie changed the topic of #kubuntu to: Official Kubuntu support | FAQ: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu | Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu.com | Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic | Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl | Kubuntu 17.04 https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-17-04-released/ | https://forum.kde.org/, https://www.kubuntuforums.net/ [23:49] could be a wifi driver issue with IPv6 [23:50] Perhaps. I am running a realtek RTL8821AE. I am now wondering if I should buy an atheros card :P [23:58] !pastebin | confirming [23:58] confirming: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.