[01:29] 4.8 is a weird choice [04:20] I want to change the color of the windows (default is black) in mate, but don't know how to do this [06:37] hello [07:47] I spent all last night installing UM 17.04 on a friends laptop but it failed right at the end and didn't boot - GRUB doesn't show [07:48] There was a vague error right at the end was something like "Some packages failed to install or be removed. Install can continue but you will have to re-install these later" something like that [07:49] It didn't say which packages [07:50] It was a UEFI laptop running Win 10. I disabled secure boot first and I chose to install it alongside Windows 10 bootloader [07:50] Is a UEFI laptop [07:51] Anyone else had a similar problem? [07:52] I was watching the console as it insalled and it looked like GRUB installed without error but there was no trac of a GRUB boot meu after install [07:52] If if manually install a bootloader, I expect it will boot but thats not the point of th installer [07:54] I think this is the first time I've trie setting up dul boot with Win10 where w10 was already installed. This should work, right? [07:55] I manually resized the Windows partition to make way for a (XFS) Linux partition. Maybe it was me choosing XFS that caused it to fail? [07:56] Maybe ext4 would've worked? [07:58] I'm not sure if grub supports xfs or not, [07:58] but since this issue isn't related to the desktop environment that you're using, you could ask in #ubuntu where there are more users [07:58] You can boot with a live cd and fix grub; if it boots after than, then xfs shouldn't have been an issue [07:59] *that [08:00] alkisg, Do you think a `sudo grub-install /dev/sda` or whatever will do it? [08:00] alkisg, GRUB does defo. support XFS, I've used it for years [08:02] There may be a bug in the installer that fluffs the GRUN install if you use XFS root on UEFI? [08:03] or maybe not as GRUB SEEMED to install without error, but evidence says otherwise [08:03] danboid: the proper way to answer that would be to pause when you saw the installer errors, and then report them, attach them etc [08:03] Now just making speculations won't help much in solving the underlying bug [08:04] I should also mention I saw 1000's of the same error/warning during install, something about memory [08:04] Now, booting with a live cd and running grub-install or chroot'ing to the installation and dpkg-reconfiguring should help, yes [08:04] If you have hardware issues, that would also explain errors :) [08:04] Try running a memtest as well [08:05] When I say memory error, it was unlike any I've seen [08:05] It looked like it could be a 'feature' [08:05] Precise messages help [08:05] "balancing memory"? [08:05] I can't remeber the eact wording [08:05] So, now you need to actually start doing things, and report them as you see them [08:05] OK; what's done is done [08:06] You can either retry installing, or try to salvage the existing one [08:06] hey guys.. i'm trying to find out where do you guys have installer strings for translations [08:06] but it showed it after synaptic/dpkg or whatever 'installed' every package [08:06] But there's no point in talking about what you remember happened [08:06] i can't find it on transifex [08:07] CrazyLemon: by installer, you mean ubiquity, and not ubuntu welcome? [08:07] Ubiquity is not specific to ubuntu mate, so I would expect it not to use transifex but launchpad [08:07] alkisg hmm.. thats a good point! thanks :) [08:07] np [08:08] good point..but no luck :( ubiquity strings are translated [08:08] http://shrani.si/f/1T/133/3IdvdCrK/priprava-na-namestitev.png i'm looking for english strings in this screenshot [08:08] CrazyLemon: can you post a screenshot of what you see that's untranslated? [08:09] This is not specific to mate [08:09] The "memory error" was ubiquity "balancing RAM" or something, after installing almost evety package. Ring any bells? I've never seen 'buntu do that [08:09] Are you talking about the mp3 line? [08:09] Eh sorry the "This software..." line? [08:09] alkisg yea.this software bla bla bla [08:09] CrazyLemon: ok, yes that would be ubiquity in launchpad then [08:10] It seems to be a new flaw/feature of ubiquity/apt/dpkg but I cant help but think it slows install down. The laptop I was installing on has 4GB RAM [08:10] CrazyLemon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1625567 [08:10] Launchpad bug 1625567 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "string without spanish translation on YY's "Preparing to install ubuntu" screen – .pot- files missing?" [Undecided,Confirmed] [08:11] danboid: never heard of it, no. If you want to try reinstalling, pause at the point when it does that, and join irc from there. [08:11] alkisg yea its a bug.. the string has been translated for over a year now and it wasn't included in the release.. thanks for your help [08:11] np [08:12] Mention in the bug that it affects other languages too [12:56] Deeply impressed by Ubuntu Mate, - I get the feeling my distro-hopping days are over, after a couple of days of tests, I'm struggling to find anything of note that's wrong with 17.04 Mate. [12:57] Huge thanks to Popey for that initial decision to pull Mate into Ubuntu and setting this all off. [13:01] Canoe: Yuo obviously haven't worked out the major drawback with it... everytime you turn your machine off, the desktop is gone! ;-) [13:02] Fortunately it seems to recover ok (for some unknown reason) every time you turn your machine back on :-D [13:03] That's odd.. - don't have that issue, - is it consistent on every boot for you? [13:03] I'll give it another test on that front and check journalctl [13:04] lol [13:23] Super that's possibly the most dad-level joke ever.. ;) [13:51] ;-) [14:10] Sorry to ask again but will there be an iso for 17.04 for the Raspberry Pi 3? [14:49] hello, german mate users here ? === georgios is now known as Guest64821 [16:39] hello, beutifull peoples! [16:40] hi! [16:41] any ones knows what is the best operating system for Raspberry PI2? [16:42] I'd say Ubuntu-Mate? More so given we're in the same channel.. :) [16:44] OTHER? [16:46] Other OS? Raspbian would be the default and a good starting point. [17:37] wow [17:50] Is 17.04 no longer in beta? If so, do I need to install it again? I'm currently using beta 2. [17:57] no , you dont need to install again . only let update [17:59] do I type "let update"? [18:05] okay thanks [18:38] PlainDave, i don't think that's what Mikelevel meant [18:38] typing let update to a terminal does nothing === Metalindustrien is now known as repetitioner === andreas is now known as Guest6611 [23:29] Hi, may I ask question about linux and torrent to use? [23:30] I just switched over to ubuntu/linux and i have iptorrents. Is Bitorrent the recommended torrent for Linux?