[13:03] <rick_h> morning
[13:04] <_stink_> yo
[13:12] <shakes808> morning
[13:12] <rick_h> ugh, love it when my wife offers to make coffee...hate it when she burns it each time
[13:13] <rick_h> rick thinks in case anyone is interested: https://twitter.com/mitechie/status/853952365455708161 :)
[13:13] <shakes808> rick_h: keurig?
[13:13] <rick_h> shakes808: oh hell no
[13:13] <rick_h> moka pot
[13:15] <shakes808> rick_h: You're FANCY!  ;) haha
[13:15] <rick_h> shakes808: heh, just like coffee :)
[13:15] <rick_h> have to put that fancy grinder to good use
[13:17] <shakes808> i guess so.   at a previous  job, we had something like this -> https://goo.gl/ZaGgYB
[13:18] <shakes808> our president LOVES coffee and his expressos.
[13:18] <rick_h> yea, not gotten into an expresso maker
[13:18] <rick_h> I fear the day I break that barrier
[13:18] <rick_h> but do have a bi-weekly shipment of fresh beans from peet's coffee and the nice kitchenaid grinder and <3 moka pot brewing
[13:19] <rick_h> though getting into pour over for the camper. Easier to do there.
[13:19] <shakes808> they are pretty good.  Was addicted to "red eyes" :) and since it was free, i drank them everyday :)
[13:19] <rick_h> lol nice
[13:22] <mrgoodcat> don't hate i got my moka pot bc rick_h recommended it at chc
[13:23] <cmaloney> I have yet to get th emoka pot
[13:23] <rick_h> lol, how do you like it mrgoodcat ?
[13:23] <mrgoodcat> I like it a lot
[13:23] <cmaloney> But I already have a grind and brew from Melita. ;)
[13:23] <mrgoodcat> I still tend to use the french press more often though
[13:23] <rick_h> yea, my wife finds the french press faster and easier to clean
[13:23] <mrgoodcat> basically the way I feel
[13:24] <mrgoodcat> also moka is more espresso-y
[13:24] <rick_h> yea
[13:24] <rick_h> since I latte it up I like that about it
[13:24] <mrgoodcat> I tend to drink black coffee
[13:25] <mrgoodcat> we also get cold brew delivered to work from chazanno so I drink a lot of that
[13:25] <rick_h> nice
[13:25] <rick_h> I've not gotten into the cold side yet.
[13:25] <mrgoodcat> its sweeter definitely
[13:26] <shakes808> +1 mrgoodcat on the black coffee. why ruin the great taste?!
[13:26] <mrgoodcat> I started drinking black because the cream and sugar isn't good for you
[13:26] <mrgoodcat> but now I actually prefer it
[13:29] <widox> no Aeropress users?
[13:30]  * widox sips his freshly made cup
[13:31] <widox> https://aerobie.com/product/aeropress/
[13:31]  * cmaloney doesn't mention https://decentespresso.com/
[13:34] <rick_h> widox: I keep wanting to try it, but you have to buy into the whole system which has turned me off so far
[13:34] <widox> cmaloney: I hope you have one of these for your espresso machine ;) https://decentespresso.com/dem_suitcase
[13:34] <cmaloney> Naturally
[13:34] <widox> rick_h: its only the ~$30 device
[13:35] <cmaloney> If I'm travelling anywhere I have to take my espresso machine. ;)
[13:35] <rick_h> lol https://decentespresso.com/dem_suitcase this is going to change my popularity at sprints!
[13:35] <widox> and it comes with a ton filters, that will last forever (I use mine more then once)
[13:37] <rick_h> widox: shouldn't you be getting coffee flights at some awesome hidden coffee shop in Detroit? :P
[13:37] <mrgoodcat> widox: i used to aeropress
[13:37] <mrgoodcat> it was my first "craft" coffee experience
[13:38] <brousch__> Black coffee from French press ++
[13:38] <brousch__> It's actually easy to do cold in French press too. Put in the grounds, add cold water, leave it in the fridge overnight
[13:39] <widox> rick_h: hah. well sometimes I like to stay home :D
[13:41] <widox> french press is good. I'm usually just to lazy to clean it; aeropress is easier
[13:42] <brousch__> I rinse it and throw it in the dish washer
[14:50] <rick_h> ok, it's manipulated and all but still kind of impressive/cool https://twitter.com/xwithmywoes/status/853427567604445185
[20:12] <cmaloney> I can see why nobody wants to use jslint
[20:13] <cmaloney> "for (i = 0; i < tile_input.length; i++) {"
[20:13] <cmaloney> "Expected '+= 1' and instead saw '++'."
[20:13] <cmaloney> Um, OK
[20:13] <Zimdale> O.o
[20:13] <Zimdale> There's usually settings
[20:14] <jrwren> eslint > jslint
[20:15] <Zimdale> I hear jshint is decent too
[20:15] <cmaloney> jshint didn't return anything
[20:15] <cmaloney> so I knew it was full of shit.
[20:16] <Zimdale> lol
[20:16] <Zimdale> "MY CODE IS BAD, I KNOW THIS BECAUSE IT'S JAVASCRIPT!"
[20:16] <cmaloney> Yeah
[20:17] <cmaloney> I'm using it as a bit of a tutor (much like C linting) and it's making me more confused than anything
[20:17] <cmaloney> partially because Crockford is a little opinionated on the for loop.
[20:21] <mrgoodcat> cmaloney: I think they disallow the increment operator because when people use it inline with other arithmetic operators it is confusing to some programmers
[20:21] <mrgoodcat> and even when it isn't confusing it unnecessarily increases cognitive load
[20:21] <mrgoodcat> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[20:22] <mrgoodcat> like when you see lines like `x = i++ + --j * k--`
[20:22] <mrgoodcat> and you're like why would you do that :facepalm:
[20:22] <mrgoodcat> basically disallow anything that allows people to be stupid because if they are allowed then they will in fact be stupid
[20:23] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: Right, I've seen the C code where the puzzle is to figure out ++c + c--
[20:24] <cmaloney> And yeah, don't be stupid. ;)
[20:25] <mrgoodcat> i think the lesson is that people will use the tools you give them
[20:26] <mrgoodcat> even if that means using a bandsaw instead of scissors because bandsaws are cool
[20:27] <mrgoodcat> people use the inc/dec operators purely to make the line shorter, rather than as index/counter or other things that make sense
[20:28] <mrgoodcat> also why would you not just tile_input.map(fn) instead?
[20:28] <Zimdale> Usually people use foreaches too.
[20:33] <cmaloney> Zimdale: Yeah