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mwhudsonhmm has anyone talked about making the netplan config part of the core snap's config recently?02:56
mwhudsonthe point of that being that a gadget could then override the default02:56
mwhudsonwrong time of day for this conversation i guess02:56
mupPR snapd#3195 opened: interfaces/builtin: allow full access to properties iface of the udisks service <Created by morphis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3195>04:59
pstolowskimorning07:09
mupPR snapd#3185 closed: snap: added tasks subcommand <Created by stolowski> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3185>07:15
zygagood morning08:04
zygasory for being late08:05
zygapstolowski: hey08:05
pstolowskihi zyga !08:06
* zyga is sleepy a little08:06
zygaI was sleeping outside in a tent08:07
zygamvo: I fixed a bug in running snap-confine from core08:08
Son_Gokumorning all08:08
zygamvo: and now https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3149 is green and can land08:08
mupPR snapd#3149: cmd: make locking around namespaces explicit <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3149>08:08
zygaSon_Goku: good morning :-008:08
zyga:-)08:08
Son_GokuI woke up at midnight :/08:08
mupPR snapd#3193 closed: interfaces/mount: parse mount options to map[string]string <Created by zyga> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3193>08:08
zygamvo: please review that branch and we can use it as a base for your earlier work on /snap sharing08:08
Son_Gokuzyga: PR 3149 isn't going to cause it to stop using snap-confine from the host distro, is it?08:08
Son_Gokubecause that's a problem08:09
zygaSon_Goku: using snap-confine from host distro is tied to reexec now08:09
Son_Gokuokay, so the answer is no in my case08:09
mupPR snapd#3196 opened: tests: ensure we mock force dev mode as well to fix FTBFS in sbuild <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3196>08:09
zygaSon_Goku: right08:09
zygaSon_Goku: it is related to having snapd work in containers and in other places where / is not rshared08:10
mvozyga: sure, looking08:10
zygaSon_Goku: so /snap or /var/lib/snapd/snap is also not rshared08:10
Son_Gokuright08:10
Son_GokuI'm aware of that little issue08:10
zygamvo: it's nothing urgent but I just wanted  to let you know the tests are green there and we could progress08:10
Son_Gokuit's what prevents things like snapd from running in docker or flatpak08:10
zygaSon_Goku: it should be fixed soon :)08:11
zyga(maybe today)08:11
zygaSon_Goku: the fix is easy we just needed to do something to make initialization not racy08:12
zygaSon_Goku: hence locking ;)08:12
Son_Gokuright08:12
Son_Gokuit also is a nice step towards making snapd work in unprivileged contexts08:12
mvozyga: what bug did you fix in running snap-confine from core? is that in already?08:13
zygamvo: it was a simple one liner, it only affected tests08:14
zygamvo: let me find it08:14
zygahttps://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/319408:14
mupPR snapd#3194: tests: copy snap-confine apparmor profile into testbed <Created by zyga> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3194>08:14
mvozyga: ta08:15
zygaofftopic, github added support for project tags08:16
zygae.g. we could add "packaging" to snapd08:17
mupPR snapd#3186 closed: tests: allow installing snapd from -proposed for SRU validation <Created by fgimenez> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3186>08:18
Chipacazyga— also "awesomeness"08:21
Chipacagood morning08:21
zygaChipaca: good morning :)08:21
zygaChipaca: what's up? :)08:22
Chipacanot me08:22
* Chipaca 's back is acting up again08:22
zygaChipaca: :-(08:23
zygaI know the pain :(08:23
mvouhhh@chipaca08:24
* mvo hugs Chipaca08:24
Chipacamvo— good morning sah!08:24
mvoChipaca: good morning to you as well!08:25
Son_Gokudavidcalle: https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/snappy-docs/pull/6908:29
mupPR CanonicalLtd/snappy-docs#69: Update Arch Linux status <Created by Conan-Kudo> <https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/snappy-docs/pull/69>08:29
zygathat's a sad change08:32
zygabut well08:32
zygabtw, do we duplicate the wiki and the table there?08:33
zygamaybe we should just redirect08:33
Son_Gokuthe wiki has more details than the website does08:33
Son_Gokuand I fully expect _every_ distribution to enforce this change soon08:34
Son_GokuI've already spoken to some of my counterparts in other distros about this, which is why I keep telling you it'll happen :P08:34
pstolowskii've little emergency here. need to take my daughter to the dentist.. bb in ~1h08:35
Son_Gokuand I've already updated the wiki accordingly: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/wiki/Distributions08:35
mupPR snapd#3197 opened: store: retry on connection reset too <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3197>08:37
zygaSon_Goku: I think this is couter-productive08:37
zygaSon_Goku: I'd only do it after we have better classic confinement08:37
zygaSon_Goku: the FHS is not some nagic sacred unicorn, it's not worth removing features over08:38
Son_GokuI just want to avoid the back and forthiness and the complexity of directory migrations08:38
Son_Gokuit's a pain and we're lucky to have avoided it in Fedora08:38
Son_Gokuthe poor Arch guys don't have fancy transaction scriptlets like we do, so everything is harder08:38
zygaSon_Goku: it's not a pain, it's just stubborn people08:38
zygaSon_Goku: really, nobody normal cares about this, this is just geeks disageeing on niche stuff08:39
zygaSon_Goku: (but reversing decision has negative consequences)08:39
Son_Gokunobody normal cares about Linux08:39
Son_Gokuso that's a really bad argument to use with me :)08:39
seb128nobody uses android right08:39
zygaSon_Goku: I disagree08:39
Son_Gokufine, GNU+Linux08:39
Son_Gokuseb128: snapd can't run on Android anyway08:40
zygaSon_Goku: nobody using android (great point seb128) cares about the FS layout there08:40
Son_Gokuno SELinux support, and alternate filesystem layout isn't supported either08:40
zygaSon_Goku: and it's not the "blessed" and "only correct" FHS08:40
Son_GokuI'm not saying it is08:40
Chipacasaying "nobody cares about X" to somebody that cares about X is not how you win an argument with them, FWIW08:40
Son_Gokubut breaking people's expectations isn't good either08:40
zygaSon_Goku: so what you are doing is IMO harmful, why go to this effort if we're not ready to switch?08:40
Son_GokuI did not change Arch Linux08:40
zygaSon_Goku: breaking something that worked is also not good :)08:40
Son_Gokusomeone else already did08:40
seb128Son_Goku, it's funny how fedora doesn't care about the FHS when it comes to udisks and mountpoints but now you do when it's snapd...08:41
Son_Gokuseb128: what are you talking about?08:41
davidcalleSon_Goku: notre, thank you, should go live today08:41
davidcallenoted*08:41
Son_Gokuudisks mountpoints are ephemeral, which is why they're in /run in the first places08:41
Son_Gokuit's weird, yes08:41
Son_Gokubut whatever08:41
seb128Son_Goku, https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5170908:42
seb128Son_Goku, it's also not FHS compliant08:42
Son_Gokuseb128: at least you're not breaking people's ability to back up their whole system08:42
* Son_Goku shrugs08:44
zygaI love this comment https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51709#c708:44
Son_GokuI didn't particularly like this either08:44
zygait really does capture the essence of FSH08:44
zygait's just old stuff that who that can commit can change at will08:44
zygaand any that innovate can just ignore as old08:45
seb128Son_Goku, right, but if it's coming from fedora it's fine  but if it's coming from somebody else it's not, great double standards right?08:45
zygaENOSACREDCOWINFHS08:45
Son_Gokuseb128: no, it's not fine regardless08:45
seb128but still fedora did it08:45
Son_Gokuand like then, I can't convince you to change anything08:45
seb128didn't reverse patch upstream08:45
Son_Gokuwell, apparently no one ever complained about it in rhbz08:48
Son_GokuI guess if someone complained, then something might happen08:48
Son_Gokuwhen I complained about the ovirt guys doing it, their packages got backed out of the distribution08:48
seb128k, anyway I was just making a comment about those double standards which are a bit sad, no point going over that for an hour, sorry for the noise08:50
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Son_Gokuseb128: if I really wanted to get into that mess, I would bitch about Debian "multi-arch"08:53
Son_GokuI've pretty much let it go08:53
Son_GokuI've had my fair share of complaints about FHS08:53
Son_Gokuthem intentionally ignoring /usr/libexec which led to Debian and openSUSE spending literally over a year moving everything into the wrong place08:54
ChipacaI think it's time for second breakfast08:54
Son_Gokuand not specifying sysroot style FHS as being a valid mechanism (that is, /usr/<target>/{bin,lib})...08:55
Son_Gokudavidcalle: where's the source for the home page: https://snapcraft.io/09:06
davidcalleSon_Goku: https://github.com/canonical-websites/snapcraft.io/blob/master/index.html09:07
Son_Gokugeez09:07
Son_Gokuwhy can't everything be in one place :(09:07
davidcalleGiven the amount of teams involved in the snapcraft ecosystem and also involved in many other projects, it's a trade off between having a similar workflow for everything a team is working on and having everything in one place. In this case, Canonical websites follow a specific org structure, because the people building and maintaining them work in a specific09:12
davidcalleway.09:12
mvozyga: hm, master is unhappy right now, looks like its related to 319409:20
mvozyga: I'm looking at this now09:21
zygamvo: sorry, I'm in a call09:23
mvozyga: np09:24
Son_Gokudavidcalle: meh... we need something to know where stuff is09:27
Son_Gokuit's really aggravating because I know they're forkable, I just don't know where they are09:27
Son_Gokuanyway...09:28
Son_Gokudavidcalle: https://github.com/canonical-websites/snapcraft.io/pull/30509:28
mupPR snapd#3190 closed: Change default options for Arch Linux <Created by Aimilius> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3190>09:48
Chipacado we have a fedora image for spread under qemu?09:50
ChipacaSon_Goku— ^ maybe you know?09:50
zygare09:52
zygaChipaca: no, I don't think we do09:52
zygamvo: what's the status of 319409:52
mvozyga: ignore me for now, maybe I was reading the output wrong, I'm running a local test now09:53
Chipacazyga— isn't that merged?09:54
zygaaha09:54
zygaChipaca: yes, I think mvo found a potential issue with it though09:54
Chipacaah09:54
mvozyga: yeah, but maybe I'm wrong and I was just confused by the output. sorry for the noise (maybe)09:54
Chipacafedora's "reboot & install" is weird. Also, takes forever.09:54
zygaChipaca: reboot & install?09:55
Chipacarpm used to beat deb-based on speed; what happened?09:55
Chipacazyga— "upgrades are available; reboot & install?" <click> <reboot> <stuck at "installing updates" for multiple minutes>09:55
zygaChipaca: aha09:56
zygaChipaca: that's the new systemd way of updating09:56
zygaChipaca: you reboot, it installs everything in a controlled environment,09:56
zygaChipaca: and it reboots back09:56
Chipacain the time since i commented it's gone from 55% to 56%09:56
zygaChipaca: I honestly still just "dnf update"09:56
ChipacaI am wearing my newbie hat, here09:57
Chipacahmm, getting selinux alerts about snapd trying to access /home10:09
Chipacaalso about snapd tyring to access ld-linux-x86-64.so.210:10
zygaChipaca: yes10:19
zygaChipaca: those are complain moe10:19
zygaChipaca: I started filing bugs about this10:19
zygaChipaca: but we really should sit through one session10:19
zygaChipaca: and write a meaty patch to the policy10:20
zygaChipaca: there are tools that mostly generate the policy for you10:20
zygaChipaca: so it shouln't be hard to fix 80% (hand-wavy estimate) of those quickly10:20
Chipacazyga— ok10:23
Chipacazyga— good thing these are complain, otherwise nothing would work10:24
ChipacaOTOH i also get the same thing for systemd and systemctl trying to do stuff10:24
Chipacae.g. systemctl creating a .mount10:25
Chipacaand systemd reading the current symlink10:26
pstolowskimvo, thanks for hacking around retry code!10:26
mvopstolowski: my "pleasure" ;)10:32
mvopstolowski: this one is hard to test10:33
pstolowskimvo, yeah, I agree10:34
zygaChipaca: yes, there's plenty of them; I don't know if all the fixes can go into the snapd policy; perhaps some must be made in the upstream policy10:34
ogra_mvo, mind giving a second ack on https://github.com/snapcore/core-build/pull/510:57
mupPR core-build#5: Update cloud-init configuration <Created by raharper> <https://github.com/snapcore/core-build/pull/5>10:57
Trevinhotvoss: hey, do you know why in my 14.04, every time I reboot the snap `core` and others are marked as broken?11:05
TrevinhoI need to reinstall int all the time...11:05
mvoogra_: sure, I have a look11:08
ogra_zhx11:08
Chipacazyga— is snapd built differently in fedora, or is libexec autodetected?11:11
Chipacaif it's the latter, then everything works wrt snapd#315011:12
mupPR snapd#3150: In-snap bash tab completion <Created by chipaca> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3150>11:12
TrevinhoAnd now.... error: cannot install "core": snap type unset11:14
morphisChipaca, zyga: I already started looking into those denials on fedora but one after another :-)11:19
mupPR core#35 opened: move xdg-open to proper paths <Created by ogra1> <https://github.com/snapcore/core/pull/35>11:19
Chipacathere isn't a way to know libexec from bash, is there?11:21
mupPR snapcraft#1257 closed: core: support running from other operating systems <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1257>11:21
Chipacanm ignore me11:22
Chipaca:-)11:22
* Chipaca looking at too many things, got confused for a mo'11:22
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Chipacazyga, pedronis, you both kinda-half reviewed #3150; could you finish it?11:42
zygaChipaca: yes11:49
zygaChipaca: I just finished throwing something together11:49
zygaChipaca: let me open a few PRs and I'll get to it11:49
mupPR snapd#3198 opened: interfaces/mount: pass mount.Profile to mount.NeededChanges <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3198>11:51
mupPR snapd#3199 opened: interfaces/mount: add stub Change.{Needed,Perform} <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3199>11:54
mupPR snapd#3200 opened: interfaces/mount: add Change.String for readable output <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3200>11:55
zygathere11:55
zygaChipaca, mvo: I'll make a coffee and resume reviewing11:55
zygamvo, pstolowski, Chipaca: I would appreciate if you can land the stub PR (3199) as this will allow me to propose the actual algorthim behind update-ns11:56
sergiusensChipaca: have a couple for a review?11:56
sergiusensChipaca: https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/126011:56
mupPR snapcraft#1260: meta: version from git support <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1260>11:56
Chipacasergiusens— we need to talk about completion from snapcraft11:57
sergiusensChipaca: completion as in being feature complete or something more scoped?11:57
Chipacasergiusens— yes11:57
ogra_sergiusens, you dont forget about my override requirements when doing this, right  :)11:58
sergiusensogra_: that comes next, it is rather easy (version-script to run after everything is in stage)11:58
ogra_cool !11:58
ogra_thanks11:58
sergiusensby which I guess we will do it when everything is primed11:59
sergiusensto not be all spread out in the lifecycle11:59
sergiusensChipaca: so, when or where do you want to discuss this?12:02
Chipacasergiusens— reviewing this thing first12:02
sergiusensok, thanks!12:02
Chipacasergiusens— but after that? although i should have lunch before the standup which is at 212:02
sergiusensok, whenever you want or forum post it :-P12:04
zygare12:25
pstolowskiuh oh CheckChangeConflict in Disconnect() doesn't really do a thing if snap/plug/slot names are omitted12:49
morphisniemeyer: ping12:54
mupPR snapd#3199 closed: interfaces/mount: add stub Change.{Needed,Perform} <Created by zyga> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3199>12:55
mupPR snapd#3157 closed: store: add more logs around retry in download <Created by mvo5> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3157>13:26
zygaChipaca: theresa may seeks "snap election"13:36
zygaChipaca: snap find election13:36
Chipacazyga— IKR13:36
zygaIKR?13:36
Chipacatotally13:36
zygaChipaca: can you "snap revert brexit"?13:38
Chipacazyga— you're just being mean, now13:40
zygaChipaca: snap install humor13:45
zygaChipaca: I just saw you laughing in the hangout13:45
zyga:-)13:45
Chipacaniemeyer— given the 2009 date of the bug, "soon" could mean 202113:45
Chipacazyga— I always laugh when I confirm that everything is terrible13:46
Chipacait's the only way to do it13:46
niemeyerChipaca: Yes! :)13:47
niemeyerrenatu: Heya13:47
renatuniemeyer, hey13:48
niemeyerrenatu: Missed your topics in the forum.. am I blind or did you manage to get a fix?13:48
* zyga gets to reviews13:48
renatuniemeyer, sorry what topic exactly?13:48
niemeyerrenatu: Related to the conversation we had here yesterday13:49
renatuniemeyer, I do not remember that, probably you talk with another person :D13:49
niemeyerrenatu: Most probably! 8)13:50
niemeyerrenatu: Sorry.. :)13:50
renatunp13:50
niemeyerYes, "renat" vs. "renatu".. :)13:50
mupPR snapd#3196 closed: tests: ensure we mock force dev mode as well to fix FTBFS in sbuild <Created by mvo5> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3196>13:55
Facusergiusens, anybody, mind to explain me the difference between snapcraft tests: [static|unit|integration|snaps] ? (basically, which should be run in which situations) thanks13:56
* Facu promises to add this explanation to the HACKING.md doc13:56
morphisniemeyer: ping14:00
niemeyermorphis: Heya14:00
morphisniemeyer: hey!14:01
morphisniemeyer: you saw my post in the forum about a linode auth key?14:01
morphisniemeyer: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/extending-ci-for-snapd-to-debian-fedora/250/314:02
niemeyermorphis: No, I still need to go through this morning's forum posts14:02
niemeyermorphis: Will get you a key for usre14:03
niemeyersure14:03
morphisniemeyer: thanks, will wait then :-)14:03
morphisniemeyer: just wasn't sure if you're the right one for this14:03
mupBug #1683823 opened: snapcraft list-revisions showing multiple publications in the same channel <Snappy:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1683823>14:31
sergiusensFacu: you want to talk to elopio; but the gist of of; static->flake8; unit-> no-builds; integration->shells to snapcraft, builds; snaps-> builds snaps, installs and checks how they run14:34
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Facusergiusens, thanks14:35
mupPR snapd#3200 closed: interfaces/mount: add Change.String for readable output <Created by zyga> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3200>14:36
mupPR snapd#2749 opened: interfaces/default: allow mknod for regular files, pipes and sockets (LP: #1636540) <Created by jdstrand> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2749>14:36
mupBug #1683827 opened: snapcraft list-revisions strip trailing 0's from versions <Snappy:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1683827>14:37
mupPR snapd#2969 opened: interfaces: mediate netlink sockets via seccomp <Created by jdstrand> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2969>14:41
morphisPharaoh_Atem: did you check those SELinux denials for snapd already?14:46
mupBug #1683827 changed: snapcraft list-revisions strip trailing 0's from versions <Snap Store:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1683827>14:52
niemeyerLunch, biab15:07
morphisniemeyer: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/extending-ci-for-snapd-to-debian-fedora/250/615:08
morphisniemeyer: not sure for how long the machines stay when I've used -reuse15:08
zygamvo: there is something odd in tests15:09
zygamvo: I just saw this failure: https://travis-ci.org/snapcore/snapd/builds/223175451#L86015:10
zyga+ cp -a /etc/apparmor.d/usr.lib.snapd.snap-confine /etc/apparmor.d/usr.lib.snapd.snap-confine.real squashfs-root/etc/apparmor.d/usr.lib.snapd.snap-confine.real15:11
zygacp: target 'squashfs-root/etc/apparmor.d/usr.lib.snapd.snap-confine.real' is not a directory15:11
zygafirst of all, why there are both .real and old files there and why is something a directory?!15:11
ogra_the cp command tries to copy two files ...15:13
ogra_... so the target path needs to be a dir15:13
zygaaaaha15:13
zygathanks!15:13
zygaso15:13
zygaon 14.04 it is the plain file15:13
zygaon 16.04 it is the .real file15:13
zygaso I used a * to get both15:13
ogra_ah15:14
zygabut why do we get both at once now?15:14
zygaanyway, I think the rule needs tweaking15:14
zygas/rule/command/15:14
zygamvo: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/320215:17
mupPR snapd#3202: tests: handle case when both .real and plain are present <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3202>15:17
zygaogra_: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3202 :-)15:17
mupPR snapd#3202 opened: tests: handle case when both .real and plain are present <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3202>15:18
ogra_zyga, if both files are existing they will both end up in target though ... is that what you want ?15:19
ogra_(great solution beyond that)15:19
zygayes, that's fine15:20
zygaor15:20
zyga...15:20
zygais it?15:20
zygagah, I think we only look at one of them15:20
Pharaoh_Atemmorphis: I have not, but I will this evening15:25
zygaogra_: updated15:27
morphisPharaoh_Atem: great!15:28
morphisPharaoh_Atem: was trying to find my way through those but if you will have a look I can ignore this for now15:28
Pharaoh_AtemI've been busy with Mageia stuff15:28
ogra_zyga, approved15:28
Pharaoh_Atemmorphis: there are more important issues I need you to address, anyway15:28
Pharaoh_Atemgetting upstream snapd to build without patches and working with hughsie on gnome-software are both more critical15:29
Pharaoh_AtemI've been going back and forth on whether I should submit a variant of the spec to be included in the snapd git repo15:29
Pharaoh_Atembut if we get down to zero patches, then I can just slightly tweak the one in dist-git so that it can be pulled during spread15:30
Pharaoh_AtemI want to avoid going back and forth with dist-git<->git15:30
morphisPharaoh_Atem: yeah I am on that15:31
morphisPharaoh_Atem: g-s is lined up and willcooke asked robert to spend time on this15:32
zygaogra_: thanks!15:32
morphisPharaoh_Atem: you mean spread doing a comparision alerts when both are out of sync?15:33
Pharaoh_Atemmorphis: I mean for Fedora dist CI15:34
Pharaoh_Atemone aspect of that is making sure things don't go out of sync, yes15:34
Pharaoh_Atembut another aspect is to make sure the build doesn't get broken15:35
morphisok, so you're going to run spread insight the fedora CI?15:35
Pharaoh_AtemI don't know what I'm going to do15:35
Chipacafgimenez— sunc -> sync (on https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/core-snap-delivery-process/314)15:35
Pharaoh_Atemat this point, I'm sorta thinking aloud ;)15:35
morphisok, however let me give you a patch soon which enables go-tests insight the fedora build15:36
Pharaoh_Atemokay15:36
morphiss/insight/inside/15:36
Pharaoh_Atemsend me a patch for the spec and I'll apply it15:36
morphisneed to rule out a problem with go test and asm compilation and a few more snapd fixes but should be ready this week15:36
fgimenezChipaca: thanks! fixed i've already changed it into wiki, so feel free to edit next time! :)15:39
Chipaca:-)15:39
mvozyga: nice, thanks for the fix15:45
* zyga reads the bash tab completion code 15:53
zygaChipaca: I'm still reading your PR; I'll take a break now but I'll be back after small supper and family time16:09
zygaChipaca: it's all +1 so far but I want to ensure I really grok what's going on16:09
Chipacazyga— I appreciate it, and you for it16:11
Chipacaok, ttfn, ttyl, etc17:07
Chipacao/17:07
mupPR snapcraft#1261 opened: storeapi:  improve the error message for the case the Store answers an upload needs manual review <Created by facundobatista> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/1261>17:42
niemeyerGoing outside for some exercising.. back later19:09
mvipquick question - is it possible to use Core on RasPi headless? Don't have a monitor or keyboard at my disposal atm. IIRC SSH is disabled by default.20:20
EEighthey! is it possible on my ubuntu 16.04 64bit to build a snap for 32bit?20:57
EEightbecause my users are complaining that they don't sudo snap find myapp = not found (on 32bit)20:58
kyrofaEEight, you could look into creating a 32-bit lxc environment or something21:01
kyrofaEEight, but I recommend using the launchpad snap builders if you're able21:02
EEightkyrofa: lxc +- like virtualbox so I guess the easiest way is to install ubuntu 16.04 32bit using a VM and build the snap using this vm?21:03
kyrofaEEight, yeah21:03
mupBug #1683942 opened: Startup logs showed after the "Please Enter to configure" message <Snappy:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1683942>21:24
mupPR snapd#3202 closed: tests: handle case when both .real and plain are present <Created by zyga> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/3202>21:36

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