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infinitytsimonq2: It might have been nice for someone to point it out (or fix it) before those two releases shipped. :P03:14
infinitytsimonq2: But sure, it can be fixed for 17.1003:14
tsimonq2infinity: Apologies.03:14
tsimonq2infinity: But, I still don't necessarily get what the problem is, which is why I pinged you two.03:15
lyn||ianI might have missed it somewhat because ubiquity crashes on this laptop with no internet because of a specific wifi card03:16
infinitytsimonq2: For studio, I don't think this is a regression.03:16
infinitytsimonq2: For lubuntu, it looks like someone rearranged your seeds and did it wrong.03:16
lyn||ianyeah there was a time with the seeds that it entirely broke so might not have fixed it right03:17
infinitytsimonq2: In yakkety, gilir split ship-live into a gtk and qt variant, and moved some bits to "ship-live-share".  Looks like he didn't actually get the structure right, and nothing pulls in ship-live-share.03:17
infinity(Which is where the needed grub package is)03:18
tsimonq2infinity: Great. </sarcasm> So how can this be fixed? :)03:18
infinitytsimonq2: In the past, or the future? :P03:18
infinitytsimonq2: In the future, someone can fix the seeds so this works properly.03:19
tsimonq2infinity: We can't change the past, so I guess the future works? :P03:19
tsimonq2infinity: What needs to be fixed?03:20
tsimonq2infinity: I mean, I know *what* the problem is now, I just want to know *how* to fix it.03:20
infinitytsimonq2: Not 100% sure without experimenting.  It all looks sort of right at first glance, but it's clearly not or the packages would be there.03:21
tsimonq2infinity: Ok, so what package are we missing? grub-efi-amd64-signed?03:23
infinitytsimonq2: Looks like your whole pool is missing.03:23
tsimonq2infinity: Interesting...03:23
tsimonq2infinity: Got some docs on this somewhere? I'm a newbie on this particular topic.03:24
infinityNope.03:24
tsimonq2infinity: Ok, so I'll DuckDuckGo around. :P03:24
infinityThat likely won't help either.03:25
tsimonq2Oh?03:25
infinityUnless you think there are a lot of discussions on the interwebs about how debian-cd and seeds and germinate do their thing?03:25
infinityWhich is pretty specific to a workflow of about 3 people.03:25
tsimonq2So what $words-on-some-page do I need to read to get familiar with this? Am I going to have to read through some code here or is there some other discussion somewhere? :P03:26
infinityCode.  And I'm not sure which code, precisely, I'm grepping around myself.03:26
tsimonq2Ah, ok.03:27
tsimonq2infinity: For the sake of preventing this sort of thing in the future, maybe I should submit some more ISO QA tests to ensure that we always test the images with no internet connection?03:31
tsimonq2infinity: I mean, sort of a stupid question, but there's no technical requirement saying that we have to have an internet connection, right? :P03:32
infinitytsimonq2: Indeed, installation should work without teh internets.03:36
infinitytsimonq2: That's really the whole point of ISOs, IMO.03:37
tsimonq2infinity: Agreed, if it weren't for the lack of internet connections, we could all just use netboot and be done with it. :P03:39
tsimonq2Such description, very beneficial. :P bug 168249903:40
ubot5bug 1682499 in systemd (Ubuntu Zesty) "disable dnssec" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/168249903:40
tsimonq2"because pitti says so"03:41
tsimonq2lol03:41
tsimonq2infinity: bug 168358103:47
ubot5bug 1683581 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Test needed: Installation with no Internet connection" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/168358103:47
tsimonq2And on that note, sleepytime for me. Good night infinity, thanks for looking into that bug. :)03:47
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fossfreedom_LocutusOfBorg: Hi - quick question - there is a new version of budgie-desktop is available from upstream.  Given that stretch hasnt released yet, should I hold off requesting a review & upload to debian unstable until after the stretch release?09:33
LocutusOfBorgfossfreedom, debian experimental?09:36
LocutusOfBorgand synt to Ubuntu when opens?09:37
fossfreedom_sounds like a plan - I suppose I should request here to sync from experimental?  I presume it doesnt happen automatically.09:38
LocutusOfBorgfossfreedom, I can do it09:42
LocutusOfBorgjust make it syncable09:42
* LocutusOfBorg means by incorporating the Ubuntu delta09:42
fossfreedom_thanks for the info.  much appreciated09:43
LocutusOfBorgthanks to you for caring :)09:44
LocutusOfBorgbtw I can sync in Ubuntu only after AA opens :p09:44
LocutusOfBorgjust to understand... you want https://github.com/budgie-desktop/budgie-desktop/issues/588 fixed, right?09:45
fossfreedom_LocutusOfBorg: aye - very nicely cleaned up now by upstream09:45
fossfreedom_by virtue of a dumping of autotools and moving to meson build09:45
fossfreedom_LocutusOfBorg: the only real Ubuntu delta is the fact I have to patch one file at build time. Not sure how to deal with that scenario to cope with a sync. Thoughts?09:47
LocutusOfBorgyep I got the email when the bug has been closed :)09:47
LocutusOfBorgfossfreedom_, why the patch can't be added in Debian too?09:48
fossfreedom_it is the nm-applet - ubuntu has patching to cope with appindicators.  I need to patch to say "nm-applet --no-indicators" ... which throws an error in Debian because nm-applet is correctly vanilla09:49
apwi assume some of that delta will go away this coming cycle09:54
fossfreedom_true.  I suppose we can live the broken network applet up and until alpha 1/2 - hoping that nm-applet patching becomes more vanilla.  if not readd the ubuntu specific patch then.09:57
LocutusOfBorgfossfreedom, in case:10:00
LocutusOfBorghttps://sources.debian.net/src/libpng1.6/1.6.28-1/debian/rules/#L1910:00
LocutusOfBorgyou can patch -p1 at runtime to have a zero-delta code10:00
LocutusOfBorgoverride configure to patch before, and override clean to unpatch10:01
LocutusOfBorgor do the quilt pop/push in a curl-similar hacky way https://sources.debian.net/src/curl/7.52.1-4/debian/rules/10:02
fossfreedom_okey-dokey - will give that a try. cheers.10:04
LocutusOfBorg:)10:04
LocutusOfBorgI prefer no change delta from Debian and Ubuntu, and in case I prefer some hack un rules rather than having to manually upload them twice each times you upload in Debian10:05
LocutusOfBorgbut hacks are hacks, that patch might not apply on a new upstream release, and Ubuntu will fail to build (fail to patch), while Debian will be good10:05
LocutusOfBorgso, please drop hacks10:05
LocutusOfBorgwhen possible10:05
fossfreedom_makes sense.10:06
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FourDollarsHi, do you know why https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager doesn't appear in trusty-updates?12:19
FourDollarsIt looks like only trusty-updates affected. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=update-manager&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all12:20
rbasak?12:20
rbasak1:0.196.23 is in trusty-updates.12:21
cjwatsononly source12:23
cjwatsonbinary has vanished, probably due to double-override bug12:24
xnoxslangasek, bileto's britney seems "slow" from queuing to actually creating execuses page and triggering the run of the test i see about an hour delay.12:25
xnoxfrom autopkgtest.ubuntu.com finishing running all the tests to updating the execuses - again it seems slow e.g. about an hour.12:26
xnoxthe archive britney seems to run more often.12:26
FourDollarsHow can we make update-manager 0.196.23 binary appear in trusty-updates again?12:38
cjwatsonI've copied it back in, which will hopefully be successful12:39
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: update-manager (trusty-updates/main) [1:0.196.23 => 1:0.196.23] (core) (sync)12:39
cjwatsonbdmurray: the phased updater really needs some locking; I suspect that's the problem here12:39
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: systemd (zesty-proposed/main) [232-21ubuntu2 => 232-21ubuntu3] (core) (sync)12:45
Lyonesswhois infinity12:45
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sssd (trusty-proposed/main) [1.11.8-0ubuntu0.5 => 1.11.8-0ubuntu0.6] (ubuntu-desktop)12:55
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: unity-settings-daemon (zesty-proposed/main) [15.04.1+17.04.20170328-0ubuntu1 => 15.04.1+17.04.20170418-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop) (sync)13:15
cyphermoxslangasek: still struggling with that livecd-rootfs SRU; I can't really think of why it doesn't work, everything seems to be in place. I want to send my new changes (to enable casper on that image) which I know is definitely required, and then try another build to debug the whole process.13:58
cyphermox(it should show up in the queue anytime)13:59
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (zesty-proposed/main) [2.441.1 => 2.441.2] (desktop-core)14:00
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xnoxslangasek, infinity - systemd is in the unapproved. Sync from https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2719 - https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/2719/+packages14:39
xnoxall tests can be peppered over, I believe from https://bileto.ubuntu.com/excuses/2719/zesty.html14:40
xnoxthe s390x/armhf have boot smoke failing - a test that reboots the instance and checks that no jobs are running.... but systemd-resolved ends up stuck starting up (or maybe shutting down) upon lxc/lxd instances reboot.14:41
xnoxNot sure what is going on there, given that zesty containers do restart for me.14:41
* xnox should open a bug about that14:41
xnoxand armhf has the still failing unit test.14:42
xnoxsnapd/gvfs tests have been failing in release as well, so not a regression, no?14:43
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted update-manager [sync] (trusty-updates) [1:0.196.23]14:44
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: k3b (zesty-proposed/universe) [2.0.3a+git20170325-0ubuntu2 => 17.04.0-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)15:00
slangasekxnox, infinity: systemd SRU on my stack to review this morning15:34
slangasekcyphermox: do you need more eyeballs on the livecd-rootfs stuff, or are you working through it?15:34
cyphermoxI wouldn't mind another head, but I'm not sure if it's livecd-rootfs or something odd in casper15:35
cyphermoxat least to think it through; I'm not seeing the difference between desktop's casper and my image's15:35
cyphermoxI do have to upload a fix for the netplan + NM upgrade issue first though15:36
cjwatsonFourDollars: update-manager/trusty-updates should be resurrected now, modulo mirroring15:38
FourDollarscjwatson: Cool. Thx a lot.15:39
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: thermald (zesty-proposed/main) [1.5.4-4 => 1.5.4-4ubuntu1] (core)15:41
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: thermald (yakkety-proposed/main) [1.5.3-4ubuntu1 => 1.5.3-4ubuntu2] (core)15:43
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: thermald (xenial-proposed/main) [1.5-2ubuntu3 => 1.5-2ubuntu4] (core)15:44
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected livecd-rootfs [source] (zesty-proposed) [2.441.2]15:58
* apw looks at thermald15:58
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected thermald [source] (zesty-proposed) [1.5.4-4ubuntu1]16:00
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (zesty-proposed/main) [2.441.1 => 2.441.2] (desktop-core)16:07
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: thermald (zesty-proposed/main) [1.5.4-4 => 1.5.4-4ubuntu1] (core)16:07
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: network-manager (yakkety-proposed/main) [1.2.6-0ubuntu1 => 1.2.6-0ubuntu1.1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)16:07
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted thermald [source] (zesty-proposed) [1.5.4-4ubuntu1]16:12
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted thermald [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1.5.3-4ubuntu2]16:14
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted thermald [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.5-2ubuntu4]16:15
infinitycyphermox: There's a change in that livecd-rootfs upload that isn't represented in the changelog.16:49
xnoxinfinity, slangasek: can i haz ubuntu-16.04.3 milestone for xenial series please?17:45
slangasekmilestone, yes.  does the calendar say what our date is for it?17:46
xnoxslangasek, no date yet.17:46
xnox16.04.2 was WW1817:46
slangasekinfinity: ^^ 16.04.3 date please17:47
slangasek(milestone created w/o date in the meantime)17:47
xnoxtah17:47
xnox20th of July or some other suitable thing17:47
xnoxWW2917:48
xnoxseems early; but .2 was late =/17:48
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-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected livecd-rootfs [source] (zesty-proposed) [2.441.2]17:58
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted systemd [sync] (zesty-proposed) [232-21ubuntu3]18:07
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mozjs38 [source] (zesty-proposed) [38.2.1~rc0-0ubuntu6]18:15
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (zesty-proposed/main) [2.441.1 => 2.441.2] (desktop-core)18:15
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted unity-settings-daemon [sync] (zesty-proposed) [15.04.1+17.04.20170418-0ubuntu1]18:21
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (zesty-proposed) [2.441.2]18:22
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cacti [source] (zesty-proposed) [0.8.8h+ds1-8ubuntu0.1]18:27
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cacti [source] (yakkety-proposed) [0.8.8h+ds1-5ubuntu0.1]19:14
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cacti [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.8.8f+ds1-4ubuntu4.16.04.3]19:15
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: muon (xenial-proposed/universe) [4:5.6.0-0ubuntu1 => 4:5.6.0-0ubuntu1.16.04.1] (kubuntu)20:20
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: muon (yakkety-proposed/universe) [4:5.6.0-0ubuntu1 => 4:5.6.0-0ubuntu1.16.10.1] (kubuntu)20:22
tsimonq2xnox: For what it's worth, I filed bug 1683581 as soon as I was aware there was an issue. In Lubuntu, we will make changes to prevent bug 1633913 in the future. :)20:47
ubot5bug 1683581 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Test needed: Installation with no Internet connection" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/168358120:47
ubot5bug 1633913 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "lubuntu and ubuntustudio are missing pool; can not install without internet connection" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163391320:47
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-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted update-manager [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1:16.10.10]21:21
mwhudsonhmm why is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/golang-github-coreos-pkg is still in main?23:03
infinitymwhudson: juju-core -> golang-github-coreos-go-systemd -> golang-github-coreos-pkg23:41
mwhudsonah right23:46

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