cmaloney | Well, I figured out one of the issues and frustrations I was having with jslint / jshint | 00:45 |
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cmaloney | Apparently the jshint plugin for vim ships with a very outdated jshint version | 00:45 |
cmaloney | worse, there were several copies of that jshint version installed in the .vim directory | 00:46 |
cmaloney | ugh | 00:46 |
brousch__ | cmaloney: Are you going to PyOhio this year? | 13:58 |
cmaloney | brousch__: Planning on it | 13:59 |
cmaloney | Submitted a proposal for a talk | 13:59 |
brousch__ | I haven't decided, but leaning towards yes | 14:00 |
brousch__ | Carpooling? | 14:01 |
cmaloney | Depends on who all is going | 14:01 |
cmaloney | But yeah, planning on driving down | 14:01 |
brousch__ | I have a GRPUG friend who moved to Tha D. He might be interested in carpooling from there. | 14:03 |
cmaloney | Whereabouts in the D? | 14:05 |
rick_h | cmaloney: heh if the wife's van ever comes in we can get a party bus going! | 14:08 |
brousch__ | Downtown D, near Grand Circus I think | 14:23 |
cmaloney | rick_h: Are you planning on driving down as well? | 14:30 |
rick_h | cmaloney: I think so. Erica has the time off and I submitted a couple of talks | 14:30 |
cmaloney | Oh cool! | 14:30 |
rick_h | Yea, hopefully one of them gets accepted and will be fun stuff | 14:30 |
cmaloney | \o/ | 14:35 |
brousch__ | Wait, rick_h still does Python? | 14:47 |
rick_h | brousch__: sometimes :P | 14:47 |
rick_h | brousch__: the question is more "Rick still does programming?" | 14:47 |
rick_h | brousch__: but I have a couple of things to chat on | 14:47 |
brousch__ | I haven't done much programming since 2015. At my current job it's mostly config management: a bunch of Jinja! | 14:49 |
cmaloney | sounds like a talk to me | 14:50 |
brousch__ | I gave it last night :P | 14:50 |
rick_h | "templating for the mega power user!" | 14:50 |
cmaloney | "Ginger Ginsing Ninja Jinja" | 14:51 |
cmaloney | You'll have to play with it some more, but there you go | 14:51 |
rick_h | lol | 14:51 |
jrwren | at least it isn't Cheetah. | 14:51 |
rick_h | +100 | 14:51 |
* rick_h gets the shakes at the thought | 14:52 | |
* jrwren grumbles something about juju | 14:52 | |
cmaloney | (context?) | 14:52 |
jrwren | Cheetah is an obsolete & abandoned python templating system. | 14:52 |
rick_h | cmaloney: cheetah was an xml based python template system | 14:52 |
cmaloney | Oh. Glad I missed that. | 14:52 |
rick_h | and I HATED trying to do everything in this xml crazy syntax world...guess it's like react :P | 14:52 |
* cmaloney got in when it was "Mako vs. Jinja". | 14:52 | |
rick_h | I hated my encouters with it | 14:52 |
rick_h | yea, mako ftw | 14:53 |
jrwren | rick_h: you've seen charm utils, right? :p | 14:53 |
rick_h | jrwren: is it cheetah? | 14:53 |
jrwren | rick_h: yes. | 14:53 |
jrwren | rick_h: there is a reason it doesn't run in python3 | 14:53 |
* rick_h adds a new todo list item...get rid of that | 14:53 | |
rick_h | ugh | 14:53 |
rick_h | wtf | 14:53 |
cmaloney | Are you fucking kidding me? | 14:53 |
jrwren | rick_h: wtf indeed. | 14:53 |
cmaloney | The last release was in 12010 | 14:54 |
cmaloney | (2010) | 14:54 |
jrwren | cmaloney: welcome to juju | 14:54 |
cmaloney | I'm not much for the cult of the new, but the cult of the moribund and necrotizing isn't great either. | 14:55 |
jrwren | cmaloney: in its defense, said library is at least 3 yrs old. | 14:58 |
cmaloney | I guess there's something to be said for not having Cheetah change on you | 15:00 |
cmaloney | but still, XML templating? | 15:00 |
cmaloney | I'd want to shoot myself. | 15:00 |
cmaloney | .rst is bad enough with its pickiness. I'd hate to add XML pickiness on top of it. | 15:01 |
* cmaloney finally canceled his Ars Technica subscription | 15:02 | |
cmaloney | was subscribed to the full news feed, but realized most of what's there is phone sales, equipment plugs, car plugs, and Expanse spoilers. | 15:02 |
jrwren | lol | 15:03 |
jrwren | it is telling that their "tech" link at top of page links to /gadgets | 15:04 |
cmaloney | yeah | 15:05 |
jrwren | as if they are the same | 15:05 |
cmaloney | Worse, i would put the good articles in my "read and review" folder, and then never read them | 15:06 |
rick_h | yea, haven't watched ars for much lately | 15:06 |
cmaloney | so figured what's the point of paying for it if I'm not using it | 15:06 |
cmaloney | sadly the only place I have for tech news is Reddit | 15:06 |
cmaloney | which is about one step up from Hacker News | 15:07 |
greg-g | /.! | 15:08 |
greg-g | ;) | 15:08 |
cmaloney | craigmaloney writes: "As a concerned Linux and FLOSS person who was previously employed by Geeknet I find that Slashdot's articles tend to have a rambling quality to them based ont eh community of people who make them" | 15:09 |
cmaloney | that and the ouster of cmdrtaco / hemos left a bitter taste in my mouth | 15:10 |
cmaloney | not that they haven't done well for themselves (and likely should have left a while ago) | 15:10 |
* greg-g nods | 15:10 | |
cmaloney | I know, new management | 15:10 |
greg-g | cmaloney: did you ever know Wes Moran? | 15:10 |
brousch__ | I still subscribe to some of /. | 15:11 |
cmaloney | Yeah, he was the designer for SF.net and Slashdot | 15:11 |
cmaloney | good person, and one of the better designers I've worked with | 15:11 |
cmaloney | (which isn't saying much because I rarely worked with designers) | 15:11 |
cmaloney | but he set a pretty high bar | 15:11 |
greg-g | cmaloney: he was my boss at WMF for the past year or so (we didn't have a CTO, so he being VP of Product took on the responsibilities while we hired) | 15:11 |
cmaloney | Oh cool | 15:12 |
greg-g | yeah, I like him a lot, he left WMF a bit ago (2 months or so) | 15:12 |
cmaloney | Ah, neat. Hopefully to something more awesome | 15:12 |
jrwren | is that Wes from down in Tecumseh? | 15:13 |
brousch__ | What could be more awesome than WMF? | 15:13 |
jrwren | oh, nope. | 15:14 |
jrwren | too many people named Wes :) | 15:14 |
cmaloney | https://www.linkedin.com/in/westonnh | 15:14 |
greg-g | yeah, his plan was to actually honestly take a break for a bit, not sure how long | 15:16 |
cmaloney | I can imagine WMF VP of Product would burn one out pretty quickly | 15:17 |
greg-g | especially doing what he was doing: also having all of Tech report to him (just in managerial reasons, not wrt actual work, we're pretty self-governing, badly-ish ;) ) | 15:18 |
greg-g | he worked hard, too, and was a remotie from NH | 15:19 |
greg-g | I loved that part for my own personal reasons, made it way easier for me to stop commuting the 2 hours each way twice/week :) | 15:19 |
greg-g | (that and baby #2) | 15:19 |
cmaloney | Yeah, no doubt | 15:22 |
jrwren | how old are the kids now, greg-g ? | 15:41 |
brousch__ | That's one heck of a commute | 15:43 |
brousch__ | Like me commuting to Ann Arbor from GR | 15:44 |
jrwren | 'cept that is 120mi. greg-g would be going 20miles. :p | 15:44 |
cmaloney | yeah, California has a transit problem | 15:45 |
greg-g | :) | 15:45 |
greg-g | especially northbay, going over the GGB is a huge bottle neck, and the only other option is the ferry which is $$$ | 15:46 |
greg-g | but yeah, 40 miles :P (it's like commuting from SF to Mountain View, but without the option of taking CalTrain) | 15:46 |
greg-g | jrwren: Rowan is 5 and Terran turned 1 on Sunday(!!!!) | 15:46 |
jrwren | HAPPY BIRTHDAY! | 15:47 |
jrwren | I knew it was about now. He shares birthday with my Dad who would have been 70. | 15:47 |
jrwren | And my girl turned 10 yesterday. | 15:47 |
greg-g | awesome | 15:47 |
cmaloney | ++ | 15:48 |
greg-g | it's hard for me because 4 days before Terran was born the pregnant wife of one of my team members died suddenly and the child didn't make it. And I like/would consider myself friends with him. So yeah, it's effing tough. He had to take last week off because of obvious reasons. | 15:49 |
cmaloney | :( | 15:50 |
cmaloney | Yeah, that's one hell of an anniversary. :( | 15:50 |
jrwren | It hurts. I can't imagine that amount of loss. | 15:50 |
greg-g | he's in a group that calls themselves the Shitty Widowers Club | 15:50 |
jrwren | ha! It is great that he found a group. | 15:51 |
greg-g | the humor they share is pretty dark :) | 15:51 |
cmaloney | I can imagine | 15:52 |
gamerchick02 | trying out budgie. anyone in here give it a whirl? | 22:04 |
rick_h | Not here | 22:10 |
cmaloney | not i | 22:10 |
gamerchick02 | ok | 22:14 |
gamerchick02 | was just wondering if anyone had an opinion | 22:14 |
gamerchick02 | it looks slick | 22:14 |
brousch__ | All of my encounters with budgies involve a stick covered in bird seed and poop on my hat | 22:19 |
cmaloney | as one does | 22:20 |
gamerchick02 | i got an operating system not found error on reboot | 22:28 |
gamerchick02 | hrm | 22:28 |
gamerchick02 | i'll mess with it another night | 22:28 |
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