| cannaman | For some reason there is no browser installed. | 02:44 |
|---|---|---|
| cannaman | In Ubuntu Mate | 02:44 |
| PlainDave | Firefox isn't in the menu under "Internet"? | 02:44 |
| cannaman | Nope | 02:45 |
| cannaman | When I try to install plainedave... | 02:45 |
| cannaman | "Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? | 02:45 |
| cannaman | " | 02:45 |
| cannaman | Any ideas plaindave? | 02:45 |
| cannaman | Hexchat, Pidgin, Thunderbird, Transmission, Youtube | 02:46 |
| PlainDave | Gosh, I don't know what could have happened. Are you running 17.04? | 02:47 |
| DarkPsydeLord | well this was annoying | 02:47 |
| cannaman | PlainDave - 17.04? | 02:48 |
| cannaman | I'm running Ubuntu Mate for a Raspberry Pi 2. | 02:48 |
| DarkPsydeLord | after the upgrade i had to fight with internet again like back in those ubuntu 6.04 times | 02:48 |
| PlainDave | Oh, okay. I don't know anything about Ras Pi. | 02:48 |
| DarkPsydeLord | it was awesome XD | 02:48 |
| cannaman | DarkPsydeLord - Lol | 02:49 |
| PlainDave | sorry cannaman | 02:49 |
| cannaman | I tried purge, now update, will try to re-install. | 02:49 |
| DarkPsydeLord | im not kidding it was so familiar that i just immediately knew where to look XD | 02:50 |
| cannaman | DarkPsydeLord - Any suggestions for me? | 02:51 |
| DarkPsydeLord | about? sorry i just connected after fighting my wifi after the 17.04 upgrade | 02:51 |
| cannaman | Not being able to install Firefox on Ubuntu Mate via command line. | 02:52 |
| DarkPsydeLord | sudo apt -f? | 02:53 |
| DarkPsydeLord | sorry | 02:53 |
| DarkPsydeLord | apt install -f | 02:53 |
| cannaman | Just "apt install -f" or "apt install -firefox" | 02:54 |
| DarkPsydeLord | no that to fix dependencies | 02:54 |
| DarkPsydeLord | then try again | 02:54 |
| cannaman | oh ok, will try | 02:54 |
| cannaman | No still not working. | 02:55 |
| cannaman | So frustrating... | 02:55 |
| cannaman | Can you install other browsers? | 02:55 |
| DarkPsydeLord | try chromium? | 02:56 |
| DarkPsydeLord | is there an error message or something? | 02:56 |
| DarkPsydeLord | sudo apt install firefox? | 02:56 |
| cannaman | DarkPysdeLord - yes | 02:57 |
| cannaman | E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? | 02:57 |
| DarkPsydeLord | did you? | 02:57 |
| cannaman | Chromium install threw - Package 'chromium' has no installation candidate | 02:57 |
| cannaman | DarkPysdeLord - Yes, ran update. | 02:58 |
| DarkPsydeLord | sudo apt update | 02:58 |
| cannaman | --fix-missing doesn't do anything, yeah like that. | 02:58 |
| cannaman | AND upgrade. | 02:58 |
| DarkPsydeLord | no error messages? | 02:59 |
| cannaman | Not for upgrade and update | 03:00 |
| cannaman | "sudo: unrecognized option '--fix-missing" | 03:01 |
| DarkPsydeLord | uhm must be missing something whats the architecture of your pc | 03:01 |
| cannaman | Raspberry Pi 2 | 03:01 |
| DarkPsydeLord | o lol | 03:02 |
| DarkPsydeLord | then theres no firefox suitable por you | 03:02 |
| DarkPsydeLord | you must install iceweasel | 03:02 |
| DarkPsydeLord | apt-get install iceweasel --no-install-recommends | 03:02 |
| cannaman | Ok thanks | 03:03 |
| DarkPsydeLord | just remember theres no flash support for rpi | 03:03 |
| cannaman | DarkPysdeLord, right | 03:03 |
| cannaman | I had to install some different Youtube components. | 03:03 |
| DarkPsydeLord | i wonder if they dropped apt-get from rpi too in any case sudo apt install instead of apt-get | 03:04 |
| cannaman | E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? | 03:04 |
| cannaman | I don't think so. | 03:05 |
| cannaman | Either works, but both are throwing same error. | 03:05 |
| DarkPsydeLord | are you connected to the internet in your rpi? | 03:07 |
| cannaman | yes | 03:07 |
| DarkPsydeLord | can you ping -c 3 google.com for example? | 03:07 |
| cannaman | I'm using Hexchat on it : | 03:07 |
| cannaman | :) | 03:08 |
| DarkPsydeLord | o lol | 03:08 |
| DarkPsydeLord | wonder if dns issue | 03:08 |
| cannaman | PING google.com (173.194.204.139) 56(84) bytes of data. | 03:08 |
| cannaman | 64 bytes from qb-in-f139.1e100.net (173.194.204.139): icmp_seq=1 ttl=43 time=100 ms | 03:08 |
| cannaman | 64 bytes from qb-in-f139.1e100.net (173.194.204.139): icmp_seq=2 ttl=43 time=33.0 ms | 03:08 |
| cannaman | 64 bytes from qb-in-f139.1e100.net (173.194.204.139): icmp_seq=3 ttl=43 time=31.7 ms | 03:08 |
| cannaman | --- google.com ping statistics --- | 03:08 |
| cannaman | 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2002ms | 03:08 |
| cannaman | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 31.787/55.221/100.855/32.272 ms | 03:08 |
| cannaman | You think I need to change the resolvers? | 03:09 |
| DarkPsydeLord | maybe have a quick look at /etc/resolv.conf | 03:09 |
| cannaman | What should I see? | 03:10 |
| DarkPsydeLord | try adding a different resolv like the google ones | 03:11 |
| cannaman | # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8) | 03:11 |
| cannaman | # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN | 03:11 |
| cannaman | nameserver 127.0.1.1 | 03:11 |
| cannaman | search hsd1.md.comcast.net | 03:11 |
| DarkPsydeLord | add nameserver 8.8.8.8 | 03:12 |
| DarkPsydeLord | the dns from google that will tell a lot | 03:12 |
| cannaman | And 8.8.4.4? | 03:12 |
| DarkPsydeLord | yes | 03:12 |
| DarkPsydeLord | but i dont actually recall doing this on my rpi | 03:13 |
| cannaman | what about search? | 03:13 |
| DarkPsydeLord | since i had it plugged directly to my router | 03:13 |
| DarkPsydeLord | nothing to look at search | 03:14 |
| cannaman | DarkPysdeLord - Device connects fast now. | 03:14 |
| cannaman | DarkPysdeLord - Now it is not working. | 03:14 |
| cannaman | DarkPsydeLord - Giving same error code I mean. | 03:15 |
| DarkPsydeLord | hahaha | 03:15 |
| cannaman | Hits ports.ubuntu.com like a mofo. | 03:15 |
| cannaman | F*cking comcast and verizon... | 03:16 |
| DarkPsydeLord | uhmm | 03:16 |
| DarkPsydeLord | what about running rpi-update | 03:17 |
| cannaman | I'll try that | 03:18 |
| cannaman | invalid operation | 03:18 |
| DarkPsydeLord | did you updated the firmware in your rpi? | 03:19 |
| cannaman | No | 03:19 |
| cannaman | How do I do that DarkPysdeLord? | 03:19 |
| DarkPsydeLord | well usually through the update and upgrade commands we are trying to perform | 03:23 |
| cannaman | ok | 03:24 |
| DarkPsydeLord | but i think i just asked the wrong question | 03:25 |
| cannaman | alright | 03:25 |
| DarkPsydeLord | did you used the update command at all before i mean did it work ? | 03:29 |
| === comp is now known as garbagebags | ||
| DarkPsydeLord | oh gosh | 04:18 |
| DarkPsydeLord | i just freaking fought with eno1 now | 04:18 |
| DarkPsydeLord | :S | 04:18 |
| lhtd | I have to say that I love the welcome screen from mate | 08:28 |
| === doctor is now known as Guest17722 | ||
| Guest17722 | hi, at the start of my mate session my workspace switcher shows 4 workspaces per workspace and retutn normal only if i change the screen resolution (the screen is 4k). Do you know how to permanently fix this? | 09:05 |
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| markb1 | What's the "relative stability" of Ubuntu Mate (latest or 16.04.x) for multiple monitors (up / down). Cinnamon is making me nuts with lock-up crashes, when Monitor configs change! | 15:21 |
| alkisg | It should be stable :) | 15:22 |
| markb1 | ready to abandon Cinnamon for good, and try a stable Ubu desktop (XFCE is not any better, w/N monitors and config changes) | 15:23 |
| alkisg | You can configure multiple monitors from xorg.conf | 15:23 |
| alkisg | That way you completely bypass the desktop environment code | 15:23 |
| markb1 | Ugh -- no UI for this? Current Ubu desktops generally ignore old X conventions (RDB files, etc) | 15:23 |
| alkisg | Of course there's UI | 15:23 |
| alkisg | But you can also configure it globally from xorg.conf and ignore the UI | 15:24 |
| markb1 | alkisg: thanks. It's important, I do real dev-work on ubu, and the crashes cause no end of grief. thank you. | 15:24 |
| alkisg | What are "rdb files"? | 15:24 |
| alkisg | All Ubuntu desktops respect /etc/X11/xorg.conf... | 15:24 |
| alkisg | And that way you don't need to configure lightdm etc separately | 15:25 |
| markb1 | It makes me wonder if some desktop devs really use their desktops ;) I am on Thinkpads, really - widely used Gfx chips and HW | 15:25 |
| markb1 | xrdb / xmodmap / .xsession / etc | 15:25 |
| markb1 | pretty much ignored now | 15:25 |
| markb1 | their .dot files | 15:25 |
| alkisg | Well, they have their place but it's not for everyone | 15:25 |
| alkisg | While xorg.conf still is | 15:26 |
| markb1 | alkisg: ok, I will take that as a recommendation, thank you! | 15:26 |
| alkisg | np; the best way to troubleshoot crashes though is to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old | 15:26 |
| alkisg | If your device driver crashes with certain xrandr combinations, you can avoid them | 15:27 |
| markb1 | yeah, I would have to turn on debugging versions of X11, cinnamon etc etc -- long-time since I did a lot of X | 15:27 |
| markb1 | but that's a good idea | 15:27 |
| alkisg | Not really, xorg logs its segfaults | 15:27 |
| alkisg | (by default) | 15:27 |
| markb1 | if these monitors or (Thinkpad) HW were oddball, I could see why this is happening | 15:27 |
| markb1 | I suspect cinnamon itself, though, because it spontaneously crashes itself, w/o a lockup, from time-to-time | 15:30 |
| alkisg | When an application crashes, xorg continues to function | 15:30 |
| alkisg | If you see lock-up crashes, then that's xorg | 15:31 |
| markb1 | Yes, in this case. Otherwise, complete weird looking screen replication, and no ability to cntl-alt-backspace or get to Linux console(s) | 15:31 |
| alkisg | Ctrl-alt-backspace is disabled by default | 15:31 |
| alkisg | If alt+ctrl+f1 doesn't function, that's xorg | 15:32 |
| markb1 | I think it's on, will double-check. That still does not always work -- OK | 15:32 |
| markb1 | That may explain the crashes across desktops (XFCE, cinnamon) that I have observed. Surprised *everyone* is not seeing these! | 15:32 |
| markb1 | w/N monitors and Thinkpads | 15:33 |
| alkisg | If it's a problem with the graphics driver as I suspect, that also explain why not everyone sees it | 15:33 |
| alkisg | lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA => gives useful information about the card and driver | 15:33 |
| markb1 | vanilla Intel chipsets or W541 gfx hardware -- pretty consistent across TPad HW | 15:33 |
| markb1 | alkisg: ah OK, right | 15:33 |
| markb1 | Yeah, Nvidia K1000M on this Thinkpad W541 | 15:34 |
| markb1 | old, now | 15:35 |
| alkisg | It's best if you actually paste the output | 15:35 |
| alkisg | Now I don't know what driver you use | 15:35 |
| markb1 | https://dpaste.de/apVk | 15:36 |
| markb1 | but I have had same crashing (Xorg? combo w/Cinnamon?) with vanilla Tpad / Intel video | 15:36 |
| alkisg | And the output of xrandr? | 15:36 |
| markb1 | OK | 15:36 |
| alkisg | You have a dual card laptop | 15:36 |
| markb1 | In this case, yes. | 15:37 |
| markb1 | https://dpaste.de/NY68 | 15:37 |
| alkisg | Yeah you have a kernel with the classic eDP2 issue, it was solved a couple of months ago | 15:38 |
| alkisg | bbiab | 15:38 |
| markb1 | alkisg: wow, thanks! upgrade to ?? 17.04 Ubuntu??? | 15:38 |
| markb1 | OK | 15:38 |
| alkisg | No, just wait for the new kernel backport | 15:39 |
| alkisg | Stick to lts releases... | 15:39 |
| markb1 | except Ubuntu MATE now has new release on 17.04 (?) :) | 15:39 |
| markb1 | alkisg: what's the kernel version to expect? the stability is awful right now | 15:56 |
| alkisg | markb1: what i said is not related to stability, it's a ghost monitor that doesn't exist in reality | 15:59 |
| alkisg | I filed it there: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100267 | 16:00 |
| ubottu | Freedesktop bug 100267 in DRM/Intel "Ghost eDP-1 monitor on skylake with kernel >= 4.8" [Normal,Closed: fixed] | 16:00 |
| alkisg | With kernel 4.11 the problem was gone | 16:00 |
| markb1 | hrm, even 17.04 ubu is shipping w/4.10, not 4.11... | 16:00 |
| alkisg | Yes, you'll need to use a ppa or wait more :) | 16:00 |
| alkisg | But it's not related to the stability issues | 16:01 |
| alkisg | You can try the xorg.conf, it's usually more stable than changing all the time with xrandr | 16:01 |
| alkisg | And the best thing to do is to look at the segfault in xorg.0.log.old | 16:01 |
| alkisg | So that you can google and see if it's already filed and fixed | 16:01 |
| markb1 | OK, will do all of that. thank you. | 16:01 |
| alkisg | np | 16:02 |
| esdwdftty | On the another HDD Gnome disk see all partitions. But HDD-2 not have the same configuration partitions. It's not a question of why. This is a statement of fact. This have all or only for me. Chek. | 19:57 |
| esdwdftty | http://www.fileconvoy.com/gf.php?id=g891521cef4bd0d5d999953960.10234393de969e2ee5ca787&sts=14926279529526127112b74d74c64e1c50d7b103b893a3ad0f78 | 19:57 |
| esdwdftty | partitions mount norm | 19:59 |
| esdwdftty | NTFS have first physical sector 4096 | 20:13 |
| esdwdftty | 1 mb not useed | 20:15 |
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