[02:44] For some reason there is no browser installed. [02:44] In Ubuntu Mate [02:44] Firefox isn't in the menu under "Internet"? [02:45] Nope [02:45] When I try to install plainedave... [02:45] "Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? [02:45] " [02:45] Any ideas plaindave? [02:46] Hexchat, Pidgin, Thunderbird, Transmission, Youtube [02:47] Gosh, I don't know what could have happened. Are you running 17.04? [02:47] well this was annoying [02:48] PlainDave - 17.04? [02:48] I'm running Ubuntu Mate for a Raspberry Pi 2. [02:48] after the upgrade i had to fight with internet again like back in those ubuntu 6.04 times [02:48] Oh, okay. I don't know anything about Ras Pi. [02:48] it was awesome XD [02:49] DarkPsydeLord - Lol [02:49] sorry cannaman [02:49] I tried purge, now update, will try to re-install. [02:50] im not kidding it was so familiar that i just immediately knew where to look XD [02:51] DarkPsydeLord - Any suggestions for me? [02:51] about? sorry i just connected after fighting my wifi after the 17.04 upgrade [02:52] Not being able to install Firefox on Ubuntu Mate via command line. [02:53] sudo apt -f? [02:53] sorry [02:53] apt install -f [02:54] Just "apt install -f" or "apt install -firefox" [02:54] no that to fix dependencies [02:54] then try again [02:54] oh ok, will try [02:55] No still not working. [02:55] So frustrating... [02:55] Can you install other browsers? [02:56] try chromium? [02:56] is there an error message or something? [02:56] sudo apt install firefox? [02:57] DarkPysdeLord - yes [02:57] E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? [02:57] did you? [02:57] Chromium install threw - Package 'chromium' has no installation candidate [02:58] DarkPysdeLord - Yes, ran update. [02:58] sudo apt update [02:58] --fix-missing doesn't do anything, yeah like that. [02:58] AND upgrade. [02:59] no error messages? [03:00] Not for upgrade and update [03:01] "sudo: unrecognized option '--fix-missing" [03:01] uhm must be missing something whats the architecture of your pc [03:01] Raspberry Pi 2 [03:02] o lol [03:02] then theres no firefox suitable por you [03:02] you must install iceweasel [03:02] apt-get install iceweasel --no-install-recommends [03:03] Ok thanks [03:03] just remember theres no flash support for rpi [03:03] DarkPysdeLord, right [03:03] I had to install some different Youtube components. [03:04] i wonder if they dropped apt-get from rpi too in any case sudo apt install instead of apt-get [03:04] E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? [03:05] I don't think so. [03:05] Either works, but both are throwing same error. [03:07] are you connected to the internet in your rpi? [03:07] yes [03:07] can you ping -c 3 google.com for example? [03:07] I'm using Hexchat on it : [03:08] :) [03:08] o lol [03:08] wonder if dns issue [03:08] PING google.com (173.194.204.139) 56(84) bytes of data. [03:08] 64 bytes from qb-in-f139.1e100.net (173.194.204.139): icmp_seq=1 ttl=43 time=100 ms [03:08] 64 bytes from qb-in-f139.1e100.net (173.194.204.139): icmp_seq=2 ttl=43 time=33.0 ms [03:08] 64 bytes from qb-in-f139.1e100.net (173.194.204.139): icmp_seq=3 ttl=43 time=31.7 ms [03:08] --- google.com ping statistics --- [03:08] 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2002ms [03:08] rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 31.787/55.221/100.855/32.272 ms [03:09] You think I need to change the resolvers? [03:09] maybe have a quick look at /etc/resolv.conf [03:10] What should I see? [03:11] try adding a different resolv like the google ones [03:11] # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8) [03:11] # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN [03:11] nameserver 127.0.1.1 [03:11] search hsd1.md.comcast.net [03:12] add nameserver 8.8.8.8 [03:12] the dns from google that will tell a lot [03:12] And 8.8.4.4? [03:12] yes [03:13] but i dont actually recall doing this on my rpi [03:13] what about search? [03:13] since i had it plugged directly to my router [03:14] nothing to look at search [03:14] DarkPysdeLord - Device connects fast now. [03:14] DarkPysdeLord - Now it is not working. [03:15] DarkPsydeLord - Giving same error code I mean. [03:15] hahaha [03:15] Hits ports.ubuntu.com like a mofo. [03:16] F*cking comcast and verizon... [03:16] uhmm [03:17] what about running rpi-update [03:18] I'll try that [03:18] invalid operation [03:19] did you updated the firmware in your rpi? [03:19] No [03:19] How do I do that DarkPysdeLord? [03:23] well usually through the update and upgrade commands we are trying to perform [03:24] ok [03:25] but i think i just asked the wrong question [03:25] alright [03:29] did you used the update command at all before i mean did it work ? === comp is now known as garbagebags [04:18] oh gosh [04:18] i just freaking fought with eno1 now [04:18] :S [08:28] I have to say that I love the welcome screen from mate === doctor is now known as Guest17722 [09:05] hi, at the start of my mate session my workspace switcher shows 4 workspaces per workspace and retutn normal only if i change the screen resolution (the screen is 4k). Do you know how to permanently fix this? [09:06] https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/VMeDm0bFSyGxTQhWYTxx?signature=45e30a241b3993bc273fe7b5d30f962f208226a9af797d64bf20249532f28151&policy=eyJleHBpcnkiOjE0OTI1OTU2MzB9 [14:16] jkfd [14:16] d [14:16] d [14:16] d [14:16] d [14:16] d [14:16] dd [14:17] estoy solo [15:21] What's the "relative stability" of Ubuntu Mate (latest or 16.04.x) for multiple monitors (up / down). Cinnamon is making me nuts with lock-up crashes, when Monitor configs change! [15:22] It should be stable :) [15:23] ready to abandon Cinnamon for good, and try a stable Ubu desktop (XFCE is not any better, w/N monitors and config changes) [15:23] You can configure multiple monitors from xorg.conf [15:23] That way you completely bypass the desktop environment code [15:23] Ugh -- no UI for this? Current Ubu desktops generally ignore old X conventions (RDB files, etc) [15:23] Of course there's UI [15:24] But you can also configure it globally from xorg.conf and ignore the UI [15:24] alkisg: thanks. It's important, I do real dev-work on ubu, and the crashes cause no end of grief. thank you. [15:24] What are "rdb files"? [15:24] All Ubuntu desktops respect /etc/X11/xorg.conf... [15:25] And that way you don't need to configure lightdm etc separately [15:25] It makes me wonder if some desktop devs really use their desktops ;) I am on Thinkpads, really - widely used Gfx chips and HW [15:25] xrdb / xmodmap / .xsession / etc [15:25] pretty much ignored now [15:25] their .dot files [15:25] Well, they have their place but it's not for everyone [15:26] While xorg.conf still is [15:26] alkisg: ok, I will take that as a recommendation, thank you! [15:26] np; the best way to troubleshoot crashes though is to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old [15:27] If your device driver crashes with certain xrandr combinations, you can avoid them [15:27] yeah, I would have to turn on debugging versions of X11, cinnamon etc etc -- long-time since I did a lot of X [15:27] but that's a good idea [15:27] Not really, xorg logs its segfaults [15:27] (by default) [15:27] if these monitors or (Thinkpad) HW were oddball, I could see why this is happening [15:30] I suspect cinnamon itself, though, because it spontaneously crashes itself, w/o a lockup, from time-to-time [15:30] When an application crashes, xorg continues to function [15:31] If you see lock-up crashes, then that's xorg [15:31] Yes, in this case. Otherwise, complete weird looking screen replication, and no ability to cntl-alt-backspace or get to Linux console(s) [15:31] Ctrl-alt-backspace is disabled by default [15:32] If alt+ctrl+f1 doesn't function, that's xorg [15:32] I think it's on, will double-check. That still does not always work -- OK [15:32] That may explain the crashes across desktops (XFCE, cinnamon) that I have observed. Surprised *everyone* is not seeing these! [15:33] w/N monitors and Thinkpads [15:33] If it's a problem with the graphics driver as I suspect, that also explain why not everyone sees it [15:33] lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA => gives useful information about the card and driver [15:33] vanilla Intel chipsets or W541 gfx hardware -- pretty consistent across TPad HW [15:33] alkisg: ah OK, right [15:34] Yeah, Nvidia K1000M on this Thinkpad W541 [15:35] old, now [15:35] It's best if you actually paste the output [15:35] Now I don't know what driver you use [15:36] https://dpaste.de/apVk [15:36] but I have had same crashing (Xorg? combo w/Cinnamon?) with vanilla Tpad / Intel video [15:36] And the output of xrandr? [15:36] OK [15:36] You have a dual card laptop [15:37] In this case, yes. [15:37] https://dpaste.de/NY68 [15:38] Yeah you have a kernel with the classic eDP2 issue, it was solved a couple of months ago [15:38] bbiab [15:38] alkisg: wow, thanks! upgrade to ?? 17.04 Ubuntu??? [15:38] OK [15:39] No, just wait for the new kernel backport [15:39] Stick to lts releases... [15:39] except Ubuntu MATE now has new release on 17.04 (?) :) [15:56] alkisg: what's the kernel version to expect? the stability is awful right now [15:59] markb1: what i said is not related to stability, it's a ghost monitor that doesn't exist in reality [16:00] I filed it there: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100267 [16:00] Freedesktop bug 100267 in DRM/Intel "Ghost eDP-1 monitor on skylake with kernel >= 4.8" [Normal,Closed: fixed] [16:00] With kernel 4.11 the problem was gone [16:00] hrm, even 17.04 ubu is shipping w/4.10, not 4.11... [16:00] Yes, you'll need to use a ppa or wait more :) [16:01] But it's not related to the stability issues [16:01] You can try the xorg.conf, it's usually more stable than changing all the time with xrandr [16:01] And the best thing to do is to look at the segfault in xorg.0.log.old [16:01] So that you can google and see if it's already filed and fixed [16:01] OK, will do all of that. thank you. [16:02] np [19:57] On the another HDD Gnome disk see all partitions. But HDD-2 not have the same configuration partitions. It's not a question of why. This is a statement of fact. This have all or only for me. Chek. [19:57] http://www.fileconvoy.com/gf.php?id=g891521cef4bd0d5d999953960.10234393de969e2ee5ca787&sts=14926279529526127112b74d74c64e1c50d7b103b893a3ad0f78 [19:59] partitions mount norm [20:13] NTFS have first physical sector 4096 [20:15] 1 mb not useed