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| RAOF | Son_Goku: there's a patch in capnproto master to fix the build. | 05:48 |
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| duflu | Excellent. Changing to display mode 640x480 still gives the EGL draw buffer dimensions 1920x1200 | 07:10 |
| duflu | Not my fault [tm] | 07:10 |
| zorrolechat | hi | 07:24 |
| zorrolechat | Is Mir included in 17.04 ? or it's Wayland by default now ??? | 07:24 |
| zorrolechat | not following everything in the Ubuntu world | 07:24 |
| zorrolechat | Unity has been dropped right ? Which is a good thing...it is FUGLY as in Fucking Ulgly | 07:25 |
| zorrolechat | Many people moved to other distros since that Unity thing started | 07:25 |
| zorrolechat | Good to see Ubuntu is back on track | 07:25 |
| zorrolechat | I just wanna install a good distro for the latest Kaby Lake intel processor...Gonna used the internal HD GRAPHICS | 07:26 |
| zorrolechat | which distro should I install | 07:26 |
| zorrolechat | and should I try Mir / Wayland or stay with X | 07:27 |
| zorrolechat | We're completely lost these days with all those news | 07:27 |
| duflu | zorrolechat: Ubuntu 17.04 was completed before the news broke, so is still Unity7 by default with the Unity8 option available | 07:30 |
| duflu | The real changes will occur starting 17.10 | 07:30 |
| zorrolechat | oh thanks | 07:31 |
| zorrolechat | so 17.10 will come with Wayland or Mir ? | 07:32 |
| zorrolechat | I just want to install something on a Kaby Lake processor (so probably kernel 4.10+)...that will support Mir / Wayland | 07:32 |
| zorrolechat | without needing to reinstall everything in a few months | 07:32 |
| duflu | zorrolechat: If you want to minimize reinstalls, it's a good idea to stick to long term releases (16.04, 18.04...) | 07:33 |
| zorrolechat | right....typing from a 16.04 mate install | 07:34 |
| zorrolechat | I see | 07:34 |
| duflu | RAOF: Did you know that changing modes to lower resolution keeps the old larger bounding rect? So the display buffer remains larger than the display | 07:34 |
| duflu | Such is mesa-kms | 07:34 |
| duflu | Oh, maybe it's just this branch | 07:37 |
| zzarr | I know that Unity 8 + convergence + phone is discontinued, but what happens to Mir? | 11:22 |
| ogra_ | zzarr, the mir-kiosk snap will persist | 11:22 |
| ogra_ | (no idea if any other aspects of mir will see any canonical side development ... but perhaps the community will pick up) | 11:23 |
| zzarr | ogra_, thanks | 11:24 |
| zzarr | I still have hope for convergence and phone/tablet, I just think that the time was not right | 11:25 |
| ogra_ | the time was erfectly right ... see the galaxy S8 ... the adoption of manufacturers wasnt | 11:33 |
| ogra_ | *perfectly | 11:33 |
| Son_Goku | you were too early :) | 11:44 |
| Son_Goku | fortune favors the bold, but it punishes the early | 11:44 |
| ogra_ | well, we were showing it to them giving them ideas :) | 11:48 |
| zzarr | I saw the first computer with touchscreen that could be used as tablet about 5-10 years before they became common | 12:33 |
| zorrolechat | i think we need to sell our smartphones and buy dumb cell phones | 13:32 |
| zorrolechat | computers were made with keyboards | 13:32 |
| zorrolechat | to do text processing | 13:32 |
| zorrolechat | coding | 13:32 |
| zorrolechat | video editing | 13:32 |
| zorrolechat | smart phones are toys | 13:32 |
| zorrolechat | for teens | 13:32 |
| zorrolechat | ... | 13:32 |
| zorrolechat | I hate Android and iOS | 13:33 |
| zorrolechat | they're both fugly IMHO | 13:33 |
| zorrolechat | Blackberry was smarter and more secure | 13:33 |
| zorrolechat | As long as a phone can call, send texts, occasionally browse the webs or have a mail client it should be enough | 13:35 |
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