[07:44] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:54] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:55] <brobostigon> morning
[08:09] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:11] <TwistedLucidity> o/
[08:17] <SuperMatt> morning
[08:48] <davmor2> Who here uses a completely Vanilla Gnome, no extensions, no addons, no tweaking in any way
[08:49] <brobostigon> i have done, yes. gnome-shell no addons.
[08:52] <davmor2> brobostigon: I mean uses now daily as is no extensions or tweaks,  People I asks who use Fedora have both said mostly vanilla but I use x extension or tweak tool to make it work the way I want
[08:53] <brobostigon> davmor2: ah i see, yes tweak tool can change some useful things to add some useful elements.
[08:54] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Wednesday, and happy Poetry And The Creative Mind Day! 😃
[08:55] <zmoylan-pi> their was an engineer from nantucket...
[08:58] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no1vf854aUc and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WmGMdaxQLk
[09:04] <JamesTait> davmor2, first one is more the kind of uplifting tune required, I think. 😉
[09:06] <SuperMatt> I turn on a couple of tweaks, namely legacy alt+tab, and clicking an icon in the dash always opens a new window
[09:07] <SuperMatt> I sometimes change the fonts too, but that's it
[09:07] <SuperMatt> it's otherwise vanilla gnome shell
[09:09] <davmor2> SuperMatt: that is almost exactly what two of my redhat friends do, basically gnome vanilla but with 3-4 tweaks to make it work for them
[09:10] <davmor2> but wouldn't you think it made sense to fine the commonly used tweaks and extensions and make that the default gnome based on that
[09:13] <SuperMatt> Yes, I would agree with you there
[09:14] <SuperMatt> problem is that because some of the addons are packaged with the distro, I don't think the extensions page can track them
[09:14] <SuperMatt> unless it's sending metrics back to the server
[09:36] <foobarry> vanilla gnome is for sadists
[09:36] <zmoylan-pi> none of those in the linux community... :-P
[09:36] <foobarry> arc theme looks quite nice
[09:37] <foobarry> and minwaita looks kinda handy although you can tweak your own css settings easily
[09:37] <foobarry> because title bars this size are plain broken http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Here-s-How-to-Install-the-Beautiful-Arc-GTK-plus-Flat-Theme-on-Linux-483143-2.jpg
[09:39] <zmoylan-pi> see i think the title bar is fine, it's just that the tool bar should be part of it and not below it...
[09:39] <foobarry> https://github.com/andreisergiu98/arc-flatabulous-theme
[09:39] <foobarry> looks usable
[09:40] <foobarry> i gotta see terminal windows though since i use so many
[09:41] <zmoylan-pi> i am _not_ a fan of transparent terminals though
[10:12] <TwistedLucidity> Black text on a black background whilst runing Suicide Linux. 100% security.
[10:20] <rdanter> with a black keyboard with black labels and black led's that light up black?
[11:10] <TwistedLucidity> Whilst flying into a sun on autopilot
[11:11] <TwistedLucidity> "Hotblack Linux". That'd be hysterically funny. For 20 seconds.
[12:58] <Azelphur> just trying to use Python on a fresh Ubuntu EC2 instance: https://dpaste.de/9eo3 ... wat
[13:07] <rdanter> Hotblack Linux 1704 "Cricket" Release :)
[13:07] <diddledan> Azelphur: try running python3 rather than python
[13:07] <diddledan> the alternatives system should have sorted that though
[13:08] <diddledan> you might have luck with dpkg-reconfigure? (that's a black box to me, though, I just know that it fixes some things I've had problems with in the past)
[13:08] <diddledan> s/fixes/has fixed/
[13:09] <rdanter> "python" should be python 2 and "python3" should be, well, python 3
[14:22] <diddledan> silly customers! https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20170418-00/?p=95985
[14:26] <daftykins> Azelphur: yeah you need to play with update-alternatives by the sounds
[14:27] <daftykins> assuming the choice is to have python map to python3 by default, or whether python will always mean <3
[14:27] <daftykins> heh, < 3 that is
[14:27] <daftykins> although you can have a heart, too
[14:27] <diddledan> <3
[14:27]  * diddledan hugs
[14:28] <daftykins> zomg i have a start date for my bathroom works!
[14:28] <diddledan> :-o
[14:28] <diddledan> that's unpossible!
[14:28] <daftykins> 8th o' May
[14:33] <diddledan> you love PHP so much you make it go places it wasn't meant for: http://www.peachpie.io/2017/04/tutorial-vs2017.html
[14:43] <SuperMatt> my current favourite language is Go
[14:46] <davmor2> daftykins: O'May you mean she has defected to Ireland already?
[14:47] <SuperMatt> how to start a thread in go: go func() {fmt.Println("hello")}()
[15:10] <foobarry> man,its like the old days on omgubuntu. joey has his mojo back!
[15:11] <daftykins> davmor2: 'speaking' with a Guernsey accent there :)
[20:52] <diddledan> SuperMatt: I been messing with go, too - it's quite a different way of thinking but I like it