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floridagram<Abrerr> It can be for me also. But usually only when I'm slamming through multiple apps quickly. This was a bigger problem at my last job where I used my phone for work.01:17
floridagram<ahoneybun> goodness Polari just blows as an IRC Client01:23
floridagram<ahoneybun> Freenode will not change my nick with it01:24
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floridagram<Ivoriesablaze> Google+ post by Rodney Fletcher … https://plus.google.com/+RodneyFletcher/posts/UFn11Mo3wJT09:37
floridagram<ahoneybun> that last one would be me lol11:34
floridagram<AdamOutler> ESC  :q! <-- I know11:37
floridagram<Ivoriesablaze> Only the ! if you don't want to save changes12:37
floridagram<Ivoriesablaze> It could be wq12:37
floridagram<AdamOutler> Only if you made changes you want to keep.  The ! Is for I'm sure I don't want to keep the changes.12:50
floridagram<AdamOutler> It's the safest way to exit vi.  Vi is a horrible editor. If you can't exit, you probably messed up editing.12:53
floridagram<SivaMachina> Haven't had much issue with Vim14:28
floridagram<KMyers> @SivaMachina, Vim... You monster!14:29
floridagram<KMyers> @AdamOutler, sudo apt-get install nano works best14:29
floridagram<SivaMachina> Syntax highlighting with markdown and word wrapping out of the box or with issue on vim.... Might be easy on Nano didn't have much luck when I tried with word wrapping but it quite possibly user error.14:45
floridagram<Abrerr> Vi bad, vim goooood14:56
floridagram<AdamOutler> @KMyers, sudo *apt* install.  apt-get is soooo 15.1016:28
floridagram<KMyers> I know, just a force of habit16:29
floridagram<AdamOutler> Hehe.  Me too.  However I've started adapting.16:29
floridagram<KMyers> I am currently drinking Champaign at work16:31
maxolasersquadI worked at a wine and cheese place for a few months. Would sometimes tell me boss, "Sure, I'll take out the trash. I just need to sober up a bit."17:09
maxolasersquadA little known vim tip, to save and quit: ZZ17:10
maxolasersquadEasier than :wq17:10
floridagram<AdamOutler> I'm having a problem with Ubuntu Server.  When I'm booting the installation USB, I select HWE (hardware enablement).  This allows network access.  But once it is installed, I have no way to use network.  Ethernet and WiFi are down.  To make drivers, I need internet to install make.17:14
floridagram<AdamOutler> Maybe someone can help a Linux n00b?17:15
maxolasersquadWhich version of Ubuntu?17:18
maxolasersquadOn 16.04 server installation just select English, then "Install Ubuntu Server". Select your keyboard. Give it a hostname and username/password. Select timezon, partitioning. After installation completes reboot.17:23
maxolasersquadThere are more questions, like installing additional packages, installing grub. But the defaults should automatically configure the network interfaces.17:37
floridagram<AdamOutler> The defaults leave me with only a LO network connection.17:43
floridagram<AdamOutler> Apparently the HWE kernel used to install Ubuntu, is not used during runtime.17:44
floridagram<AdamOutler> Any idea what HWE changes?  Is it used for Secure/verified Boot or simulating some resource?17:45
floridagram<AdamOutler> I've tried using 16.04.02 and 17.0417:46
floridagram<AdamOutler> Seever 16.04.02 has the option for HWE which enables networking. But after installation, I have none.17:46
maxolasersquadI just ran an install in a VM, but it was 16.04.1.17:57
maxolasersquadI think HWE gives you a newer kernel, but I could easily be wrong on that point.17:57
floridagram<SivaMachina> Speaking of servers has anyone tried  Mastadon?17:59
maxolasersquadThe twitter alternative?18:15
maxolasersquad"The Ubuntu LTS enablement (also called HWE or Hardware Enablement) stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing Ubuntu LTS releases." - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack18:17
maxolasersquadThe 16.04.2 installer did add the HWE option, but that's neither likely nor helping anything.18:22
maxolasersquadhurting or helping anything.18:22
floridagram<AdamOutler> It helps because I can actually get updates in the installer, but how do I install the HWE package to the disk from the installer or from the recovery mode?18:24
maxolasersquadWithout HWE networking doesn't work?18:29
maxolasersquaddoesn't work in the installer?18:29
maxolasersquadOn the machine you installed it type `sudo apt install linux-generic` then hit your tab key. It should complete to "linux-generic-hwe-16.04" if the hwe packages are installed. Choosing that option from within the installer should have installed that package.18:31
maxolasersquadYou can manually donwload that package from http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/kernel/linux-generic-hwe-16.04-edge18:33
maxolasersquadBut it's just a meta package, what you really want is http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/kernel/linux-image-4.8.0-46-generic18:34
floridagram<AdamOutler> There are recommends that total 500mb.  Is there a simpler way?18:51
floridagram<AdamOutler> --install-recommends must be used as a switch with that installation.  It's a lot of extra packages.18:52
floridagram<AdamOutler> Networking works in the installer, but not once I've booted.18:53
maxolasersquadThere are so many possibilities. Sounds like a SE question.18:53
floridagram<AdamOutler> Server Exchange?18:54
floridagram<AdamOutler> I really just need a way to download all of the recommended packages for the HWE kernel to a thumb drive...  Without having to manually download each one, one-by-one, I think.18:57
maxolasersquadStack Exchange.18:58
maxolasersquadDid you check that The hwe kernel is not already installed?18:59
floridagram<AdamOutler> I will try that.   No it is not.  I have network in the installer but only when selecting HWE.  after booting, no network.18:59
floridagram<AdamOutler> BTW this is Intel NUC mini itx hardware.19:00
floridagram<AdamOutler> Looks like this. https://www.google.com/shopping/product/8935983269331792570?lsf=seller:8438988,rt:2,lsfqd:0&prds=oid:2707067936222825461&q=intel+nuc&hl=en&ei=1rP3WJ-3L-fg0gL2waOACw&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwif-v-emrHTAhVnsFQKHfbgCLAQsIwCCAQ.  I have a 500GB ssd and 8Gb ram.19:01
maxolasersquadIn the installer there is a place where you can manually select packages to install. You could select the meta package at that point.19:01
maxolasersquadThose NUCs are super cool. We run one at a food coop I volunteer at.19:02
floridagram<KMyers> https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-external-link/pre-alpha-build-of-arch-linux-running-natively-on-the-google-pixel-c/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+xda-developers%2FShsH+%28xda-developers%2919:09
floridagram<Ivoriesablaze> so is keith switching to arch then?22:01
floridagram<KMyers> I wonder what this could be22:08
floridagram<AdamOutler> The installer for Ubuntu server manual selection is not working. It's broken apparently22:17
floridagram<ahoneybun> Nice ∆∆22:19
floridagram<AdamOutler> Is that one of those old things from Samsung?22:20
floridagram<KMyers> @AdamOutler, Damn.. the fingerprint reader is really badly placed22:24
floridagram<AdamOutler> I helped refine the security on it a few months ago22:25
floridagram<AdamOutler> The design was completed tho.22:26
floridagram<AdamOutler> You likely will be frustrated with Android auto22:27
floridagram<AdamOutler> BTW. Windows Master race!22:48
floridagram<KMyers> Ha22:48

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