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Tweak|2hi! my kmail system tray icon is being fussy! when i have no mail it works fine but as soon as i get a message it disappears and becomes invisible. I have it set to be shown at all times in the application as well as on the system tray. This continues to happen regardless of desktop theme, weather custom set or default breeze. any ideas?00:21
waylundyI get this error - akonadi PIM service is not operational01:53
waylundykubuntu 16.1001:54
waylundyplasma 5.7.501:54
waylundyany help?01:54
Tweak|2hmmmm let me see01:56
waylundyugh gotta run....01:57
waylundymessage me if you find something easy, otherwise, ill come back another time. thanks01:57
Tweak|2well idk how to message that person but i did have something easy lol01:59
TrioxinHow can I do a dist upgrade using the installation media to speed it up?04:59
valorieyou can't -- you can install from it05:03
valoriebut the install media will not have updates on it05:03
valoriefor that you must connect to the ubuntu repositories05:03
valorieinstalling is usually pretty quick anyway05:04
valorieit's upgrading from one version to a new one that is slooooow05:05
Unit193valorie: apt-cacher-ng.05:05
Unit193...and eatmydata. :D05:05
Unit193Oh shoot, shouldn't be in the support channel.05:05
valorieI've never used either05:06
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EvgenyKungurovHi. After install kubuntu 17.04 on laptop with ssd drive suspend with lid close too slow, but if write in terminal systemctl suspend my laptop suspend very fast. What it is the problem?06:01
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lordievaderGood morning.06:17
IrcsomeBot1rhzone was added by: rhzone06:28
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grvlvhi07:23
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grvvhi07:24
grvvanyone07:24
grvvhelp me with wordpress07:24
lordievadero/07:24
lordievaderWhat is the problem? And is it not more suited for #ubuntu-server?07:25
grvvI need information ,can we create above 400 page in wordpress07:25
grvvI need this information for website development07:26
dharmahi07:27
grvvhi07:27
grvvu frm07:27
dharmaandhra pradesh07:27
dharmahow to change the login screen in ubuntu07:28
grvvok07:28
dharmayou there07:28
lordievaderdharma: Go to systemsettings -> Startup & Shutdown07:29
lordievadergrvv: I suppose so, it is just a matter of creating a large enough database.07:29
grvv'okies.thanks07:30
grvvare you expert in wordpress??07:30
lordievaderNope07:30
lordievaderBut from my experience I see no reason why it should be limited in any form.07:31
grvvokay just tell me how to connect with wordpress page here in quassel07:31
lordievaderWhat do you mean?07:31
grvvI m using irc quassel07:31
grvvi want to connect with page wordpress support07:32
lordievadergrvv: Do you mean '/join ##wordpress'?07:32
grvv##wordpress07:32
grvvyes07:32
grvvcan u tell me best IRC07:33
grvvfor ubntu07:33
grvvcurrent is less userfreindly07:33
grvv'/join ##wordpress07:33
lordievaderThat is a personal preference, I use irssi.07:34
lordievaderUse the command without the  ''.07:34
dharmahey07:35
grvvthanks yes I m conncted07:35
grvvbut how can we search more channel07:36
lordievader!alis | grvv07:36
ubottugrvv: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"07:36
dharmaAlis07:37
grvvthanks a lot07:37
grvv!alis07:37
ubottuAlis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"07:37
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ammarjibarahhi08:11
ammarjibarahhello08:12
ammarjibarahhow can i connect to a hidden network08:12
sam_wongI switched my desktop from ubuntu gnome to unity 8 this afternoon and found that all my application softwares disappeared except the console, system setting and a compass browser. Any comment08:30
IrcsomeBot1<acheronuk> not quite sure what comment you expect in the kubuntu support channel, as neither of those desktops are ours08:36
sam_wongperhaps I should try #gnome08:38
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kubulohello, after updating from lts to 17.04 I face the problem, than my vpn connection that is configured by the kde network manager tool does not update the nameserver /etc/resolve.conf. So connecting a server by it's IP address is still possible, but not by it's domain. Is there any known solution for this?08:42
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BluesKajHi folks10:58
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clivejohas anyone any tips on opening a M$ Word document in LibreOffice?12:22
clivejoand not having it look like a dogs dinner12:22
acheronUKclose your eyes as soons as you click 'open'12:26
acheronUKthen ask a mate to close it for you before you open them again12:26
* acheronUK runs12:27
hateballclivejo: doc or docx?13:06
clivejodoc13:08
mparilloclivejo: I have sometimes had better luck with uploading it to my google drive, and then using Google Docs. You can then export it to .odt for kalligra words13:16
clivejoIve managed to get it to load on my mothers Window 10 laptop13:17
clivejousing a "trail" version of Word which Ive probably signed my soul over to the devil himself13:18
clivejoreally should be laws on how documents are "published"13:19
mparilloLots of fancy graphics in the doc? An my understanding is that current versions of MS Word do support .odt https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Use-Word-to-open-or-save-a-document-in-the-OpenDocument-Text-odt-format-20e5189f-86f8-4d8f-ae74-ea06b7df3b0e13:19
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hateballafaik Word only supports ODF 1.113:25
hateballOOXML support in LibreOffice and others has been improving tho13:25
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tareqhello all15:48
paddyYo15:57
user|72328Hi. sorry for my poor english. Kubuntu 16.04 LTS comes with three years of security and maintenance updates, guaranteed: or for five years? thanks and regards16:20
BluesKaj!LTS | user|7232816:26
ubottuuser|72328: LTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1)16:26
user|72328BluesKaj: thanks, but for all other flavours as Kubuntu? in https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/ is wirite "The Long Term Support (LTS) version of the Kubuntu operating system for desktop PCs and laptops, Kubuntu 16.04 LTS comes with three years of security and maintenance updates, guaranteed."16:29
BluesKajuser|72328:  that's the latest LTS info that the info bot quoted, since 12.04 LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus...so you decide16:33
daxuser|72328: Kubuntu 16.04 is supported for three years, not five. Five is for the main (Ubuntu) distro, and different flavors have different support lengths.16:35
mgoldenuser|72328: I think the linux core stuff will be maintained, but I would not be expecting the KDE stuff to be updated.16:35
dax^16:35
mgoldenuser|72328: One interesting point is that, for examle, 12.04 is nominally still supported, but its KDE4, which isn't really maintained by KDE.16:36
* dax updates ubottu !lts16:37
BluesKajthis is Kubuntu not ubuntu, amybe we should have a different infobot than the ubuntu one16:37
dax. ubottu supports channel-specific factoids, they can be suggested through the usual process, the syntax is !factoid-#kubuntu is <reply> whatever16:38
mgoldenuser|72328: That being said, I wouldn't be too worried about keeping such a machine on the network, because the network-facing stuff almost all comes from the ubuntu repos16:38
user|72328dax: thanks for answer. Kubuntu (and other flavors) have only trhee years? Example Kubuntu 14.04 is end of support now?16:38
BluesKaj!trusty16:40
ubottuUbuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) was the 20th release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ - CHECK FOR POINT RELEASES at http://releases.ubuntu.com - Release Info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes16:40
daxuser|72328: it depends on the flavor and release. Kubuntu 14.04 is supported for 5 years, per Trusty's release notes.16:40
BluesKajhmm16:40
daxso, amusingly, Kubuntu 14.04 and 16.04 will go EOL at the same time16:40
mgoldenI think that it was decided that 16.04 was a fairly transitional state of affairs and that people would want to get the fully solid KDE5 releases.16:43
user|72328dax: Ok and thanks. Where do i see which version of kubuntu is 3 years and which 5 support?16:44
daxRelease notes. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu are where I got that info.16:45
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krytarikmgolden: That decision wasn't related to the specific release.16:49
user|72328dax: thank you very much! Now I understand better :)16:50
user|72328bye16:53
user|72328have a good day to everyone!16:55
krytarikuser|72328: Take care!16:55
mgoldenkrytarik - I thought I read that on the kubuntu-devel release at the time16:56
daxkrytarik: is the plan for them to be 3 years from now on, then?16:57
mgoldenkrytarik: I am not really the guy to talk about this stuff, as I am mostly just a lurker on the kubuntu-devel list, but IIRC it was just a dicussion about the particulars of that release. I don't know if any decision was taken about later releases.16:59
krytarikdax: Yes.16:59
daxdanke17:00
krytarikmgolden: To be fair though, I only know what was conveyed to the release team.17:21
Xodiac13I am trying to fix my bluetooth speaker, the speaker connects but no sound ive went through the settings and i cant seem to get it working17:51
Xodiac13ive also looked online and other people are having a hard time to get it working could it be due to kubuntu beacuse unity ubuntu i didnt have that problem, but i like kubuntu and i dont want to get rid of it.17:54
BluesKajXodiac13:  do you have bluedevil installed?17:58
Xodiac13im not sure what bluedevil is17:58
Xodiac13should i install it17:58
BluesKajit's the bluetooth gui, also make sure bluetooth itself is installed too17:59
Xodiac13its installed17:59
BluesKajbluetooth package contains all the plugins18:00
Xodiac13the speaker will connect just no sound18:00
BluesKajdo you have sound otherwise ?18:01
mgoldenkrytarik: here is the thread I am remembering: http://ubuntu.5.x6.nabble.com/Re-Please-all-favors-indicate-if-LTS-and-support-length-td5132511.html18:01
Xodiac13yes on my laptop speakers18:01
Xodiac13should i use kubuntu 14.04 instead18:02
IrcsomeBot1Dirk was removed by: Dirk18:02
mgoldenXodiac13: The problem is selecting the right output, I suspect18:04
BluesKajxopen bluedevil and check if your speaker is listed18:04
BluesKajXodiac13: ^18:04
Xodiac13its listed18:04
Xodiac13when i open the sound it shows that the bluetooth speaker is available18:04
mgoldenTry right clicking on the volume widget in the system tray18:05
mgoldenGo to the Audio Volume Settings18:05
Xodiac13im there18:05
mgoldenThe right click one, not the left click one18:05
BluesKajXodiac13:   then make sure pulseaudio has an output option for bluetooth/speaker in system setting multimedia18:05
Xodiac13i did install puvacontrol and i got some sound but then it stopped but i uninstalled it18:06
Xodiac13the bluetooth speaker is listed18:06
Xodiac13in output18:06
mgoldenGo to the Audio Volume tab and make sure your bluetooth speaker is selected18:06
Xodiac13how do i select it18:07
BluesKajany way i have to go, Doctor awaits18:08
mgoldenXodiac13: Output Devices18:27
mgoldenI think you'll see a radio button at the top right18:27
mgoldenI don't have my bluetooth speaker here, so I am not looking at exactly what you're seeing18:28
Kali_Yugahello I am still used to kde 4... this look & feel thing here http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=14670334 wasn't there supposed to be more to download ? i don't see the option "get more themes". I'm still using kde4 but trying out kde5 on VMware.19:04
Kali_Yugakde5 looks nice but many options that I have in 4 are missing... qtcurve also doesn't work right19:07
clivejoKali_Yuga: there is not such thing as KDE5, it was renamed to Plasma519:08
Kali_Yugaclivejo: yeah plasma 519:10
clivejoIn System Settings > Look and Feel > there is a Button says "Get New Looks"19:10
clivejoif you are connected to the internet you will get a list of themes that can be installed19:11
Kali_Yugaclivejo: if you look at this screen, http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=14670334 I don't see get new looks :(19:13
clivejowhat version of Kubuntu are you running?19:14
Kali_Yuga16.0419:15
clivejojust on its own, no backports?19:15
Kali_Yugaclivejo: just installed on a VM trying out stuff. my host os is still kde 419:16
Kali_Yuga14.0419:16
clivejoKali_Yuga: the version of Plasma in Xenial is quite old19:16
Kali_YugaI did update & upgrade though19:17
Kali_YugaI'll check kde version19:17
clivejoyes, but it is locked at the plasma version that was available in March 201619:17
clivejothe Plasma desktop is maturing very fast, lots of bug fixes and new features19:18
Kali_Yugaclivejo: doesn't show version number under  "about kde"19:19
clivejoif you are considering trying Plasma 5, try downloading Zesty19:19
clivejoopen kinfo19:19
Kali_Yugaclivejo: I would like to stay on an lts release19:19
Kali_YugaI got 5.5.519:20
clivejoit will tell you the plasma version number19:20
Kali_Yugaso pretty old19:20
clivejowell its over a year old now19:21
clivejoZesty shipped with 5.9.419:21
clivejoyou could enable kubuntu backports, which would bring it up to 5.8 LTS19:22
Kali_Yugaclivejo: Is there a way to update the kde desktop? would be nice19:22
Kali_Yugai'll look under backports19:23
Kali_Yugathis ppa? ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports19:25
clivejohttp://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-8-5-bugfix-release-in-xenial-and-yakkety-backports-now/19:25
clivejoyes, that will update Plasma to 5.8.5 for you19:25
Kali_Yugaok will do19:26
clivejoit is a lot more stable and more features than 5.5.519:26
Kali_Yugaok thanks a lot19:28
Kali_Yugayeah i've noticed it was a bit buggy19:29
clivejobut zesty is better again as there are more things ported to KF5, ie okular, krita, digikam etc19:29
geniiclivejo: Just curious, was the change from KSnaphot to Spectacle because KSnaphot is unmaintined, or were there porting issues?19:32
Kali_Yugayeah I'm still just trying stuff out... still just to used to the my old kde19:32
Kali_Yugato my old kde*19:33
clivejospectacle is the KF5 port19:33
clivejobut they decided to rewrite it AFIAK19:33
geniiHm19:33
clivejoso it would work under wayland19:33
geniiOK, got it.19:34
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Kali_Yugaok got 5.8.5 now. i think qtcurve died or something... I add my qtcurve theme like here: http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=37407865 but as soon as I detach the window it goes right back to default :< http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=72686059. In the host OS the theme works20:19
dharmahi guys21:41
dharmai have a problem with inbuilt wifi adapter21:41
dharmaso i got new one21:41
dharmabut in ubuntu its not connecting to wifi21:41
dharmaanyone help?21:41
valorieyou might get more help in #ubuntu with that, dharma21:42
valoriebigger channel21:42
dharma#ubuntu21:43
valorieand not really a Kubuntu issue21:43
dharmahow to get into it21:43
srpntdid you choose 3rd party drivers upon install?21:43
valorieall irc commands begin with / on a new line21:43
valorieso /join #ubuntu21:43
valorieon a  new line21:43
Aluminis there a way to adjust mouse sensitivity other than "Hardware -> Input Devices -> Mouse" in System Settings (Kubuntu 16.04)?21:52
AluminI have a Dell Latitude laptop with two mice (a trackpad and a Trackpoint); the trackpad sensitivity is pretty OK (but doesn't seem to respond to the sensitivity settings either).  Unfortunately (for me), I hate trackpads and just want to use the Trackpoint.  Unfortunately its sensitivity is through the roof so much as to be unusable21:53
Aluminideally once I get the Trackpoint under control I'd like to disable the trackpad entirely, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it21:54
geniiProbably some way through xinput21:54
Aluminhmm OK, lemme give that a shot21:54
Aluminlet's say for the sake of argument that I get things the way I like them using xinput; is there a "proper" way to persist those settings other than just recreating the commands in a session startup file?21:55
sputnik0hello22:06
sputnik0quick question: I've recently upgraded Kubuntu from 16.10 to 17.04 and now networkmanager keeps asking the wifi password upon suspend/resume22:07
sputnik0When I enter the wifi password it fails authentication, but after some time it still authenticates.22:08
sputnik0Has anyone seen this before?22:08
Alumindoes it ask for it when you start up the first time?22:08
Aluminone thing I've noticed with NetworkManager's credential storage is that if it asks you for the password for whatever reason, it won't update its stored password with whatever you type in22:09
Aluminthat doesn't quite seem to match your symptoms, but you may want to try explicitly going into "Manage Connections" and re-entering the password there22:10
Aluminwow...Kubuntu 16.04 really doesn't like this hardware22:11
Aluminlogging out of KDE causes a kernel panic 100% of the time :P22:11
Aluminguess I better try 17.04, so much for LTS heh22:12
sputnik0I don't know if it asks for the password on startup. I'd have to try and see if it does22:12
Aluminmeh, I was just grabbing at straws.  I would go in and re-type the password in the config applet though if I were you22:12
sputnik0My laptop does a suspend after about 5 minutes on battery and it's quite annoying having to muck about with nm to get it to connect22:13
sputnik0I will, thanks22:13
valoriesputnik0: be sure to click "all users " or so22:14
valorie"all users can connect to network"22:15
sputnik0that will make the passwords unencrypted. Does the encryption of these passwords sometimes give problems?22:15
sputnik0I believe these are stored in Kwallet, as I saw the credentials there as well. I tried setting the password (which may or may not be the encryption key, but I'm not sure) there again to no avail22:17
sputnik0I have set them to "all users can connect to network". Let's see if this works22:20
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