[00:21] <Tweak|2> hi! my kmail system tray icon is being fussy! when i have no mail it works fine but as soon as i get a message it disappears and becomes invisible. I have it set to be shown at all times in the application as well as on the system tray. This continues to happen regardless of desktop theme, weather custom set or default breeze. any ideas?
[01:53] <waylundy> I get this error - akonadi PIM service is not operational
[01:54] <waylundy> kubuntu 16.10
[01:54] <waylundy> plasma 5.7.5
[01:54] <waylundy> any help?
[01:56] <Tweak|2> hmmmm let me see
[01:57] <waylundy> ugh gotta run....
[01:57] <waylundy> message me if you find something easy, otherwise, ill come back another time. thanks
[01:59] <Tweak|2> well idk how to message that person but i did have something easy lol
[04:59] <Trioxin> How can I do a dist upgrade using the installation media to speed it up?
[05:03] <valorie> you can't -- you can install from it
[05:03] <valorie> but the install media will not have updates on it
[05:03] <valorie> for that you must connect to the ubuntu repositories
[05:04] <valorie> installing is usually pretty quick anyway
[05:05] <valorie> it's upgrading from one version to a new one that is slooooow
[05:05] <Unit193> valorie: apt-cacher-ng.
[05:05] <Unit193> ...and eatmydata. :D
[05:05] <Unit193> Oh shoot, shouldn't be in the support channel.
[05:06] <valorie> I've never used either
[06:01] <EvgenyKungurov> Hi. After install kubuntu 17.04 on laptop with ssd drive suspend with lid close too slow, but if write in terminal systemctl suspend my laptop suspend very fast. What it is the problem?
[06:17] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:28] <IrcsomeBot1> rhzone was added by: rhzone
[07:23] <grvlv> hi
[07:24] <grvv> hi
[07:24] <grvv> anyone
[07:24] <grvv> help me with wordpress
[07:24] <lordievader> o/
[07:25] <lordievader> What is the problem? And is it not more suited for #ubuntu-server?
[07:25] <grvv> I need information ,can we create above 400 page in wordpress
[07:26] <grvv> I need this information for website development
[07:27] <dharma> hi
[07:27] <grvv> hi
[07:27] <grvv> u frm
[07:27] <dharma> andhra pradesh
[07:28] <dharma> how to change the login screen in ubuntu
[07:28] <grvv> ok
[07:28] <dharma> you there
[07:29] <lordievader> dharma: Go to systemsettings -> Startup & Shutdown
[07:29] <lordievader> grvv: I suppose so, it is just a matter of creating a large enough database.
[07:30] <grvv> 'okies.thanks
[07:30] <grvv> are you expert in wordpress??
[07:30] <lordievader> Nope
[07:31] <lordievader> But from my experience I see no reason why it should be limited in any form.
[07:31] <grvv> okay just tell me how to connect with wordpress page here in quassel
[07:31] <lordievader> What do you mean?
[07:31] <grvv> I m using irc quassel
[07:32] <grvv> i want to connect with page wordpress support
[07:32] <lordievader> grvv: Do you mean '/join ##wordpress'?
[07:32] <grvv> ##wordpress
[07:32] <grvv> yes
[07:33] <grvv> can u tell me best IRC
[07:33] <grvv> for ubntu
[07:33] <grvv> current is less userfreindly
[07:33] <grvv> '/join ##wordpress
[07:34] <lordievader> That is a personal preference, I use irssi.
[07:34] <lordievader> Use the command without the  ''.
[07:35] <dharma> hey
[07:35] <grvv> thanks yes I m conncted
[07:36] <grvv> but how can we search more channel
[07:36] <lordievader> !alis | grvv
[07:37] <dharma> Alis
[07:37] <grvv> thanks a lot
[07:37] <grvv> !alis
[07:38] <dharma> -alis-  -max<n>
[07:39] <grvv> alis-  -max<n
[07:39] <grvv> -alis-  -max<n
[07:39] <grvv> alis-  -max<n>
[07:39] <grvv> -alis-  -max<n>
[07:40] <grvv> !alis-  -max<n>
[08:11] <ammarjibarah> hi
[08:12] <ammarjibarah> hello
[08:12] <ammarjibarah> how can i connect to a hidden network
[08:30] <sam_wong> I switched my desktop from ubuntu gnome to unity 8 this afternoon and found that all my application softwares disappeared except the console, system setting and a compass browser. Any comment
 not quite sure what comment you expect in the kubuntu support channel, as neither of those desktops are ours
[08:38] <sam_wong> perhaps I should try #gnome
[08:42] <kubulo> hello, after updating from lts to 17.04 I face the problem, than my vpn connection that is configured by the kde network manager tool does not update the nameserver /etc/resolve.conf. So connecting a server by it's IP address is still possible, but not by it's domain. Is there any known solution for this?
[10:58] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:22] <clivejo> has anyone any tips on opening a M$ Word document in LibreOffice?
[12:22] <clivejo> and not having it look like a dogs dinner
[12:26] <acheronUK> close your eyes as soons as you click 'open'
[12:26] <acheronUK> then ask a mate to close it for you before you open them again
[12:27]  * acheronUK runs
[13:06] <hateball> clivejo: doc or docx?
[13:08] <clivejo> doc
[13:16] <mparillo> clivejo: I have sometimes had better luck with uploading it to my google drive, and then using Google Docs. You can then export it to .odt for kalligra words
[13:17] <clivejo> Ive managed to get it to load on my mothers Window 10 laptop
[13:18] <clivejo> using a "trail" version of Word which Ive probably signed my soul over to the devil himself
[13:19] <clivejo> really should be laws on how documents are "published"
[13:19] <mparillo> Lots of fancy graphics in the doc? An my understanding is that current versions of MS Word do support .odt https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Use-Word-to-open-or-save-a-document-in-the-OpenDocument-Text-odt-format-20e5189f-86f8-4d8f-ae74-ea06b7df3b0e
[13:25] <hateball> afaik Word only supports ODF 1.1
[13:25] <hateball> OOXML support in LibreOffice and others has been improving tho
[15:48] <tareq> hello all
[15:57] <paddy> Yo
[16:20] <user|72328> Hi. sorry for my poor english. Kubuntu 16.04 LTS comes with three years of security and maintenance updates, guaranteed: or for five years? thanks and regards
[16:26] <BluesKaj> !LTS | user|72328
[16:29] <user|72328> BluesKaj: thanks, but for all other flavours as Kubuntu? in https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/ is wirite "The Long Term Support (LTS) version of the Kubuntu operating system for desktop PCs and laptops, Kubuntu 16.04 LTS comes with three years of security and maintenance updates, guaranteed."
[16:33] <BluesKaj> user|72328:  that's the latest LTS info that the info bot quoted, since 12.04 LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus...so you decide
[16:35] <dax> user|72328: Kubuntu 16.04 is supported for three years, not five. Five is for the main (Ubuntu) distro, and different flavors have different support lengths.
[16:35] <mgolden> user|72328: I think the linux core stuff will be maintained, but I would not be expecting the KDE stuff to be updated.
[16:35] <dax> ^
[16:36] <mgolden> user|72328: One interesting point is that, for examle, 12.04 is nominally still supported, but its KDE4, which isn't really maintained by KDE.
[16:37]  * dax updates ubottu !lts
[16:37] <BluesKaj> this is Kubuntu not ubuntu, amybe we should have a different infobot than the ubuntu one
[16:38] <dax> . ubottu supports channel-specific factoids, they can be suggested through the usual process, the syntax is !factoid-#kubuntu is <reply> whatever
[16:38] <mgolden> user|72328: That being said, I wouldn't be too worried about keeping such a machine on the network, because the network-facing stuff almost all comes from the ubuntu repos
[16:38] <user|72328> dax: thanks for answer. Kubuntu (and other flavors) have only trhee years? Example Kubuntu 14.04 is end of support now?
[16:40] <BluesKaj> !trusty
[16:40] <dax> user|72328: it depends on the flavor and release. Kubuntu 14.04 is supported for 5 years, per Trusty's release notes.
[16:40] <BluesKaj> hmm
[16:40] <dax> so, amusingly, Kubuntu 14.04 and 16.04 will go EOL at the same time
[16:43] <mgolden> I think that it was decided that 16.04 was a fairly transitional state of affairs and that people would want to get the fully solid KDE5 releases.
[16:44] <user|72328> dax: Ok and thanks. Where do i see which version of kubuntu is 3 years and which 5 support?
[16:45] <dax> Release notes. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu are where I got that info.
[16:49] <krytarik> mgolden: That decision wasn't related to the specific release.
[16:50] <user|72328> dax: thank you very much! Now I understand better :)
[16:53] <user|72328> bye
[16:55] <user|72328> have a good day to everyone!
[16:55] <krytarik> user|72328: Take care!
[16:56] <mgolden> krytarik - I thought I read that on the kubuntu-devel release at the time
[16:57] <dax> krytarik: is the plan for them to be 3 years from now on, then?
[16:59] <mgolden> krytarik: I am not really the guy to talk about this stuff, as I am mostly just a lurker on the kubuntu-devel list, but IIRC it was just a dicussion about the particulars of that release. I don't know if any decision was taken about later releases.
[16:59] <krytarik> dax: Yes.
[17:00] <dax> danke
[17:21] <krytarik> mgolden: To be fair though, I only know what was conveyed to the release team.
[17:51] <Xodiac13> I am trying to fix my bluetooth speaker, the speaker connects but no sound ive went through the settings and i cant seem to get it working
[17:54] <Xodiac13> ive also looked online and other people are having a hard time to get it working could it be due to kubuntu beacuse unity ubuntu i didnt have that problem, but i like kubuntu and i dont want to get rid of it.
[17:58] <BluesKaj> Xodiac13:  do you have bluedevil installed?
[17:58] <Xodiac13> im not sure what bluedevil is
[17:58] <Xodiac13> should i install it
[17:59] <BluesKaj> it's the bluetooth gui, also make sure bluetooth itself is installed too
[17:59] <Xodiac13> its installed
[18:00] <BluesKaj> bluetooth package contains all the plugins
[18:00] <Xodiac13> the speaker will connect just no sound
[18:01] <BluesKaj> do you have sound otherwise ?
[18:01] <mgolden> krytarik: here is the thread I am remembering: http://ubuntu.5.x6.nabble.com/Re-Please-all-favors-indicate-if-LTS-and-support-length-td5132511.html
[18:01] <Xodiac13> yes on my laptop speakers
[18:02] <Xodiac13> should i use kubuntu 14.04 instead
[18:02] <IrcsomeBot1> Dirk was removed by: Dirk
[18:04] <mgolden> Xodiac13: The problem is selecting the right output, I suspect
[18:04] <BluesKaj> xopen bluedevil and check if your speaker is listed
[18:04] <BluesKaj> Xodiac13: ^
[18:04] <Xodiac13> its listed
[18:04] <Xodiac13> when i open the sound it shows that the bluetooth speaker is available
[18:05] <mgolden> Try right clicking on the volume widget in the system tray
[18:05] <mgolden> Go to the Audio Volume Settings
[18:05] <Xodiac13> im there
[18:05] <mgolden> The right click one, not the left click one
[18:05] <BluesKaj> Xodiac13:   then make sure pulseaudio has an output option for bluetooth/speaker in system setting multimedia
[18:06] <Xodiac13> i did install puvacontrol and i got some sound but then it stopped but i uninstalled it
[18:06] <Xodiac13> the bluetooth speaker is listed
[18:06] <Xodiac13> in output
[18:06] <mgolden> Go to the Audio Volume tab and make sure your bluetooth speaker is selected
[18:07] <Xodiac13> how do i select it
[18:08] <BluesKaj> any way i have to go, Doctor awaits
[18:27] <mgolden> Xodiac13: Output Devices
[18:27] <mgolden> I think you'll see a radio button at the top right
[18:28] <mgolden> I don't have my bluetooth speaker here, so I am not looking at exactly what you're seeing
[19:04] <Kali_Yuga> hello I am still used to kde 4... this look & feel thing here http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=14670334 wasn't there supposed to be more to download ? i don't see the option "get more themes". I'm still using kde4 but trying out kde5 on VMware.
[19:07] <Kali_Yuga> kde5 looks nice but many options that I have in 4 are missing... qtcurve also doesn't work right
[19:08] <clivejo> Kali_Yuga: there is not such thing as KDE5, it was renamed to Plasma5
[19:10] <Kali_Yuga> clivejo: yeah plasma 5
[19:10] <clivejo> In System Settings > Look and Feel > there is a Button says "Get New Looks"
[19:11] <clivejo> if you are connected to the internet you will get a list of themes that can be installed
[19:13] <Kali_Yuga> clivejo: if you look at this screen, http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=14670334 I don't see get new looks :(
[19:14] <clivejo> what version of Kubuntu are you running?
[19:15] <Kali_Yuga> 16.04
[19:15] <clivejo> just on its own, no backports?
[19:16] <Kali_Yuga> clivejo: just installed on a VM trying out stuff. my host os is still kde 4
[19:16] <Kali_Yuga> 14.04
[19:16] <clivejo> Kali_Yuga: the version of Plasma in Xenial is quite old
[19:17] <Kali_Yuga> I did update & upgrade though
[19:17] <Kali_Yuga> I'll check kde version
[19:17] <clivejo> yes, but it is locked at the plasma version that was available in March 2016
[19:18] <clivejo> the Plasma desktop is maturing very fast, lots of bug fixes and new features
[19:19] <Kali_Yuga> clivejo: doesn't show version number under  "about kde"
[19:19] <clivejo> if you are considering trying Plasma 5, try downloading Zesty
[19:19] <clivejo> open kinfo
[19:19] <Kali_Yuga> clivejo: I would like to stay on an lts release
[19:20] <Kali_Yuga> I got 5.5.5
[19:20] <clivejo> it will tell you the plasma version number
[19:20] <Kali_Yuga> so pretty old
[19:21] <clivejo> well its over a year old now
[19:21] <clivejo> Zesty shipped with 5.9.4
[19:22] <clivejo> you could enable kubuntu backports, which would bring it up to 5.8 LTS
[19:22] <Kali_Yuga> clivejo: Is there a way to update the kde desktop? would be nice
[19:23] <Kali_Yuga> i'll look under backports
[19:25] <Kali_Yuga> this ppa? ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[19:25] <clivejo> http://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-8-5-bugfix-release-in-xenial-and-yakkety-backports-now/
[19:25] <clivejo> yes, that will update Plasma to 5.8.5 for you
[19:26] <Kali_Yuga> ok will do
[19:26] <clivejo> it is a lot more stable and more features than 5.5.5
[19:28] <Kali_Yuga> ok thanks a lot
[19:29] <Kali_Yuga> yeah i've noticed it was a bit buggy
[19:29] <clivejo> but zesty is better again as there are more things ported to KF5, ie okular, krita, digikam etc
[19:32] <genii> clivejo: Just curious, was the change from KSnaphot to Spectacle because KSnaphot is unmaintined, or were there porting issues?
[19:32] <Kali_Yuga> yeah I'm still just trying stuff out... still just to used to the my old kde
[19:33] <Kali_Yuga> to my old kde*
[19:33] <clivejo> spectacle is the KF5 port
[19:33] <clivejo> but they decided to rewrite it AFIAK
[19:33] <genii> Hm
[19:33] <clivejo> so it would work under wayland
[19:34] <genii> OK, got it.
[20:19] <Kali_Yuga> ok got 5.8.5 now. i think qtcurve died or something... I add my qtcurve theme like here: http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=37407865 but as soon as I detach the window it goes right back to default :< http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=72686059. In the host OS the theme works
[21:41] <dharma> hi guys
[21:41] <dharma> i have a problem with inbuilt wifi adapter
[21:41] <dharma> so i got new one
[21:41] <dharma> but in ubuntu its not connecting to wifi
[21:41] <dharma> anyone help?
[21:42] <valorie> you might get more help in #ubuntu with that, dharma
[21:42] <valorie> bigger channel
[21:43] <dharma> #ubuntu
[21:43] <valorie> and not really a Kubuntu issue
[21:43] <dharma> how to get into it
[21:43] <srpnt> did you choose 3rd party drivers upon install?
[21:43] <valorie> all irc commands begin with / on a new line
[21:43] <valorie> so /join #ubuntu
[21:43] <valorie> on a  new line
[21:52] <Alumin> is there a way to adjust mouse sensitivity other than "Hardware -> Input Devices -> Mouse" in System Settings (Kubuntu 16.04)?
[21:53] <Alumin> I have a Dell Latitude laptop with two mice (a trackpad and a Trackpoint); the trackpad sensitivity is pretty OK (but doesn't seem to respond to the sensitivity settings either).  Unfortunately (for me), I hate trackpads and just want to use the Trackpoint.  Unfortunately its sensitivity is through the roof so much as to be unusable
[21:54] <Alumin> ideally once I get the Trackpoint under control I'd like to disable the trackpad entirely, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it
[21:54] <genii> Probably some way through xinput
[21:54] <Alumin> hmm OK, lemme give that a shot
[21:55] <Alumin> let's say for the sake of argument that I get things the way I like them using xinput; is there a "proper" way to persist those settings other than just recreating the commands in a session startup file?
[22:06] <sputnik0> hello
[22:07] <sputnik0> quick question: I've recently upgraded Kubuntu from 16.10 to 17.04 and now networkmanager keeps asking the wifi password upon suspend/resume
[22:08] <sputnik0> When I enter the wifi password it fails authentication, but after some time it still authenticates.
[22:08] <sputnik0> Has anyone seen this before?
[22:08] <Alumin> does it ask for it when you start up the first time?
[22:09] <Alumin> one thing I've noticed with NetworkManager's credential storage is that if it asks you for the password for whatever reason, it won't update its stored password with whatever you type in
[22:10] <Alumin> that doesn't quite seem to match your symptoms, but you may want to try explicitly going into "Manage Connections" and re-entering the password there
[22:11] <Alumin> wow...Kubuntu 16.04 really doesn't like this hardware
[22:11] <Alumin> logging out of KDE causes a kernel panic 100% of the time :P
[22:12] <Alumin> guess I better try 17.04, so much for LTS heh
[22:12] <sputnik0> I don't know if it asks for the password on startup. I'd have to try and see if it does
[22:12] <Alumin> meh, I was just grabbing at straws.  I would go in and re-type the password in the config applet though if I were you
[22:13] <sputnik0> My laptop does a suspend after about 5 minutes on battery and it's quite annoying having to muck about with nm to get it to connect
[22:13] <sputnik0> I will, thanks
[22:14] <valorie> sputnik0: be sure to click "all users " or so
[22:15] <valorie> "all users can connect to network"
[22:15] <sputnik0> that will make the passwords unencrypted. Does the encryption of these passwords sometimes give problems?
[22:17] <sputnik0> I believe these are stored in Kwallet, as I saw the credentials there as well. I tried setting the password (which may or may not be the encryption key, but I'm not sure) there again to no avail
[22:20] <sputnik0> I have set them to "all users can connect to network". Let's see if this works