[13:19] hi [13:19] anyone? [13:21] Hi [17:48] Huh? [17:52] hai wulfie [18:16] Hello honeybear [18:19] so firefox is looking worse and worse for lubuntu :( [18:19] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/53.0/releasenotes/ [18:20] Thunderbird is going to be dropped [18:20] "Ended Firefox Linux support for processors older than Pentium 4 and AMD Opteron [18:21] " [18:21] from where? mozilla? [18:21] From any distro possibly! It's like a conspiracy! [18:21] where did you read this? [18:21] Mozilla no longer maintains Thunderbird. [18:21] A couple blogs. [18:22] That leaves us, Linuxeers, a few options to read mail. [18:22] that seriously sucks [18:22] Yup [18:22] out of all the options out there, for work, thunderbird has been our favorite pretty much since the beginning [18:22] ugh [18:23] And one of the only three with cryptography capabilities. [18:23] can you send me a link? i will obviously need to research this further for work [18:23] those three being? [18:23] Sorry, 4. KMail, ClawsMail, Evolution and Thunderbird. [18:24] But KMail might die in favour of Dekko. [18:24] i see [18:24] has dekko developed at all? [18:24] and, wait, that's qt right? [18:24] Yes :( [18:26] sigh [18:26] last time i looked at it, it was pretty limited [18:26] Yup. There's a commercial option under development, Nylas. [18:27] bah [18:27] Free version limited to 1 account. Shitty. [18:27] language, dear :) [18:27] I hope the gnome team revamps soon the simplified version of Evolution. [18:27] Oh shit, you're right, this is a public channel! [18:28] grr [18:28] .___. [18:28] Claws is wonderful, wxl. You should test it if you haven't. [18:29] i have [18:29] it's not too shabby [18:29] i had used it before at work [18:29] It's highly configurable. [18:29] i guess it's also possible that someone takes over thunderbird? [18:30] Yes, community maintained. [18:30] i'm not finding a blog about this [18:30] O.O [18:30] Try Joey's blog, omg Ubuntu. [18:30] probably not using the right search terms [18:30] ugh screw joey :) [18:31] LOL [18:32] ugh i didn't see this because it was on ubuntu-desktop [18:33] I'm even happier with gnome now we have app menus 😄 [18:36] this doesn't really elaborate much [18:36] :) [18:36] OMG I'm so hungry! [18:38] ah [18:38] this is old [18:38] it's still alive and well https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/New_Release_and_Governance_Model [18:39] I'll find the link and send you [18:40] https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2015/12/thunderbird-active-daily-inquiries-surpass-10-million/ [18:41] most clear: [18:41] https://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2015/12/03/thunderbird-update/ [18:44] That's a lot of users! [18:44] so thunderbird will continue [18:44] and it sounds like mozilla is still providing infrastructure, at least on legal/financial grounds [18:44] not in the sense that they are investing in thunderbird, but they are providing a place for others to [18:45] i think it is motivated by the fact that ultimately firefox has plans to sort of get rid of plugins as we know it [18:45] which will be interesting in and of itself [18:45] I'm sure it'll continue, but it might change a lot. Which would be really nice. Its integration with gnome or Qt desktops is awful. [18:45] well, this has been ongoing for several years [18:46] Yup [18:46] i think if it hasn't failed by now, it's priobably not going to [18:55] oh hadn't realized that ultimately they're attempting to be kind of compatible with chrome, opera extensions [18:55] https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/mozilla-sets-plan-to-dump-firefox-add-ons-move-to-chrome-like-extensions/ [19:23] O.O [19:52] hey @VikingRedwolf we are apparently officially Artful Aardvark according to the repos [19:52] that said we should do some special art [19:56] Yup! I just knew an hour ago. [19:56] I love aardvarks! [19:57] me too [19:57] especially cerebus [19:58] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebus_the_Aardvark [20:48] When I was a kid there was a cartoon, part of the Pink Panther Show, the Ant and the Aardvark. Awesome. [20:48] @VikingRedwolf LENNY AARDVARK! [20:48] Where is it? [20:48] ._. [20:48] Nope. There's plenty time. [20:48] you need to use cerebus!!!!! [20:49] First: LennyQueen [20:49] @VikingRedwolf, Yes, DELIVER! [20:49] Nein!