| Bashing-om | Yall do what yall do best - without me - G nite \o | 05:28 |
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| ducasse | morning all | 06:13 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 06:17 |
| ducasse | \o lordievader - everything is well? | 06:18 |
| lordievader | Hey ducasse | 06:19 |
| lordievader | Jup, doing good. | 06:19 |
| lordievader | How are things on your end of the line? | 06:19 |
| ducasse | a quiet morning, i just sat down a couple of minutes ago :) | 06:22 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 10:58 |
| oerheks | Hello BluesKaj | 10:58 |
| ducasse | good morning BluesKaj - all well, i hope? | 10:58 |
| BluesKaj | Hi oerheks, ducasse, fine here, and you? | 10:59 |
| ducasse | i'm good, thanks. soon heading out to run some errands. | 11:00 |
| pauljw | Hi everyone | 15:45 |
| BluesKaj | hi pauljw | 15:59 |
| pauljw | hi BluesKaj :) | 15:59 |
| lotuspsychje | good evening to all | 17:46 |
| lotuspsychje | lets c whats new in ubuntu land | 17:46 |
| daftykins | \o | 17:47 |
| daftykins | everything's broken ;) | 17:47 |
| lotuspsychje | loool | 17:47 |
| lotuspsychje | it sure does, gnome is horrible and plasma doesnt boot, and got system errors on unity now :p | 17:47 |
| daftykins | see that's unfortunately the truth i've encountered before, sure you can install another DE... but then you end up with two broken | 17:48 |
| baizon | well my plasma is perfect | 17:48 |
| baizon | I'm so impressed :) | 17:48 |
| baizon | kde runs so much faster/smoother/better | 17:48 |
| lotuspsychje | baizon: cant even bypass KDE loading screen here an ati/radeon | 17:48 |
| baizon | also got an amd card :) | 17:49 |
| lotuspsychje | hmm | 17:49 |
| lotuspsychje | isnt there like a light version of kde anymore? | 17:49 |
| baizon | lxqt is the light version :D | 17:50 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 17:50 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah i cant suggest lubuntu on my customers machines right | 17:50 |
| lotuspsychje | a lil eyecandy would be nice | 17:50 |
| baizon | kde to much eyecandy :D | 17:50 |
| lotuspsychje | haha | 17:50 |
| daftykins | create a new user to test, lotus | 17:51 |
| baizon | i had to disable some effects :D | 17:51 |
| lotuspsychje | i dont get why they dont make a light version of every DE | 17:51 |
| daftykins | see if it's your dot files | 17:51 |
| lotuspsychje | wheres gnome classic? unity classic? kde light? | 17:51 |
| daftykins | how come you haven't mentioned xfce? :> | 17:51 |
| baizon | gnome classic => mate, unity classic => ?, KDE Light => KDE 3 :D | 17:52 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah mate is on my list to test | 17:52 |
| lotuspsychje | but of course ill test 17.10 with wayland also | 17:53 |
| baizon | budgie? | 17:57 |
| baizon | unity classic => budgie :D | 17:57 |
| baizon | that is really a positive thing, with ubuntu switching to wayland, the development will get better i think | 17:58 |
| lotuspsychje | lets hope so | 17:59 |
| daftykins | baizon: lol | 18:00 |
| daftykins | yes put your stock in vapourware | 18:00 |
| lotuspsychje | baizon: i might test both mate & budgie, see what that gives | 18:06 |
| oerheks | Artful Aardvark | 18:19 |
| oerheks | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/artful/ | 18:20 |
| lotuspsychje | !aardvark | 18:26 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) will be the 27th release of Ubuntu. It is due to be released in October 2017. Discussion in #ubuntu+1 | 18:26 |
| lotuspsychje | ohhh | 18:26 |
| oerheks | arun did the 1st tweet :-D | 18:27 |
| lotuspsychje | nice nice | 18:27 |
| oerheks | but genii spammed in -offtopic as first | 18:27 |
| lotuspsychje | i presume it will be gnome allready? | 18:28 |
| oerheks | make more fun, let's get rid of gnome :-D | 18:29 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 18:30 |
| Bashing-om | Ok, ready to have fun now :) | 18:54 |
| daftykins | \o/ welcome back! | 18:54 |
| Bashing-om | thankee daftykins : Anyways is a good way to be here . | 18:55 |
| daftykins | :D | 18:55 |
| lotuspsychje | howdy nacc | 20:01 |
| nacc | lotuspsychje: hey! | 20:01 |
| lotuspsychje | wb EriC^^ | 20:02 |
| EriC^^ | thx lotuspsychje | 20:02 |
| lotuspsychje | !info linux-image-generic aardvark | 20:03 |
| ubot5 | 'aardvark' is not a valid distribution: kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed, yakkety, yakkety-backports, yakkety-proposed, zesty, zesty-backports | 20:03 |
| lotuspsychje | nite nite guys | 20:17 |
| brunch875 | gn lp | 21:17 |
| m_ | Xenial, 16.04 LTS. Package python3-selenium DOES NOT INCLUDE webdrivers. Instead, it suggests packages chromedriver and firefoxdriver. Fair enough… except… THERE ARE NO SUCH F…ING PACKAGES IN XENIAL! | 23:10 |
| m_ | Selenium packaging in Xenial is broken. Really. | 23:10 |
| m_ | ....sorry, had to vent. When it’s night already, every such obstacle can drive u mad. | 23:12 |
| Bashing-om | m_: What does not kill you ----------- :) | 23:12 |
| m_ | Still, broken packaging is broken packaging. | 23:14 |
| nacc | firefoxdriver is in 16.10/17.04 in multiverse | 23:14 |
| nacc | and it recommdns chromedriver | phantomjs and the latter is availalbe | 23:15 |
| nacc | in universe | 23:15 |
| nacc | suggests are not required to be present for packages | 23:15 |
| nacc | m_: --^ | 23:15 |
| m_ | Present in 16.10, yes. Present in 16.04 LTS, no. | 23:15 |
| nacc | and in 16.04, both are suggests | 23:16 |
| nacc | so neither needs to be in the archive nor were they | 23:16 |
| nacc | not a bug | 23:16 |
| m_ | Lack of drivers hampers usability of Selenium greatly. | 23:16 |
| nacc | m_: you can probably file a bug for it, but not sure who will SRU those packages back | 23:16 |
| m_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-selenium/+bug/1685037 , though I don't have much hopes… | 23:17 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1685037 in python-selenium (Ubuntu) "In 16.04 the package suggests vital, but non-existent packages chromedriver and firefoxdriver" [Undecided,New] | 23:17 |
| m_ | This is especially odd for me since AFAIK pip install selenium has firefox drivers bundled. | 23:19 |
| daftykins | !info python3-selenium xenial | 23:37 |
| ubot5 | python3-selenium (source: python-selenium): Python3 bindings for Selenium. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.48.0+dfsg1-2 (xenial), package size 65 kB, installed size 432 kB | 23:37 |
| daftykins | no idea how you track down who maintains it (: | 23:38 |
| nacc | daftykins: it's a package from debian | 23:38 |
| nacc | daftykins: so no one maintains it in ubuntu :) | 23:38 |
| nacc | and it's in universe with no delta | 23:38 |
| daftykins | what controls the other part being missing, though? | 23:38 |
| nacc | so highly unmaintained :) | 23:39 |
| nacc | daftykins: when the sync happened | 23:39 |
| nacc | it only exists in 16.04+ | 23:39 |
| nacc | so probably debian added the dependencies (suggests, really), later | 23:39 |
| nacc | and they missed the freeze or happened in a different cycle for ubuntu | 23:39 |
| daftykins | like supplying half a jigsaw? :) | 23:39 |
| nacc | also one is in non-free, which is why it's in multiverse in ubuntu | 23:39 |
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