[07:15] morning boys and girls. === rdanter_home is now known as radanter === marcus_ is now known as Guest32633 [08:51] Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Volunteer Recognition Day! 😃 🙌 [08:58] fun finding people's passwords at the first few minutes of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVXEwfH6FLc [09:02] JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOgpT5rEKIU and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TO48Cnl66w think that covers it :D [09:07] uploading to imgur from firefox has broken again :( [09:08] has anyone seen this issue with nagios? load value axis has gone weird http://imgur.com/a/WaUcJ [10:01] davmor2: alanis morisette is in the nuddy! [10:03] diddledan: That. Is. Horrify. [10:04] * TwistedLucidity leaves the comment that's a response to deliberately ambiguous [10:04] aww, the blurred her naughty bits [10:04] they* [10:04] Perve. [10:05] :-p [10:05] as if folks expect anything sensible out of me.. [10:06] On the subject of passwords, I still use the "CorrectHorseBatteryStaple" paradigm. Nice and long, easy to recall. [10:06] Not sure if that's still advised or not. [10:07] i think "use a password manager and" is the normal advice now [10:07] dictionary attacks can process stupidly high numbers these days... [10:07] ... and a ridiculous password [10:07] the standard method advised these days is purely random but stored in a password manager [10:07] BigRedS beat me [10:08] BigRedS: I use LastPass - but I have spotted that it struggles with string Content Security Protection on sites. Also, it can break privacy in Private tabs. [10:08] but, yeah, dictionary attacking for 3-5 random dictionary words is simpler than for 8-32 alphanumerics [10:08] I use pass, I distrust a password manager that my browser can talk to. But that's at the expense of half the benefit of a password manager... [10:08] it's also GPG based, though, so one day I'll break that and find I can't get at any of my passwords... [10:09] Is it? 50k^3 < 26^8? I'd need to do the math.... [10:09] Yeah, I want to get off LastPass. Although it doesn't have any super-critical passwords (e.g. banking etc) [10:10] actually, I guess random is the key; if you really are using random words then it's fine. But most people aren't [10:10] https://www.macrumors.com/2017/04/20/mastercard-built-in-fingerprint-sensor/ [10:11] I'm certainly not using items on my desk, otherwise all passwords would be "MessMessMess" [10:16] morning peeps [10:19] but if you buy really really cheap hardware then it would be $brandNameThatDoesntExistAnymoreFromCountryThatsBeenRenamedSinceTheirRevolution [10:30] diddledan: Fingerprints are not passwords. Fingerprints are not passwords. Fingerprints are not passwords. Fingerprints are not passwords. Fingerprints are not passwords. [10:31] Although they are handy for 2FA in that scenario. [10:57] i have a box with 6 GPU...wanna give me your hash? [10:58] password hash, not drugs [11:06] hey alan_g [11:06] when is the next show coming out ? [11:06] ? [11:06] srr , wrong alan :) [11:17] knightwise: did you mean popey ? [11:18] yep [11:22] foobarry: Sure, here you go - hunter2 [11:42] * diddledan logs into TwistedLucidity 's privates and fiddles with the billing to charge them lots of monies [11:43] hang on. that password isn't working! [11:44] TwistedLucidity: what's your password? I think you might have changed it [11:46] diddledan: Yeah, changed it to ******** [11:47] wait, IRC censored that. I didn't know that was a thing. What do you see when I type my password?: mybananaisbent [11:54] Evil, class 1 EU bananas. Not any more in the People's Glorious Republik of Maytonia! [12:00] Ah hunter2 [12:19] Password1234! [12:19] is that hidden to you? [12:21] * zmoylan-pi calls dibs on their itunes :-) [12:41] arsen: Password1234! yes all I see is a bunch of stars [12:41] cool [12:41] irc is clever like that! [12:43] to be fair, I wish IRCd operators put a little patch in to stop " /msg nickserv identify" (note the space at the beginning) [12:43] so many people get hit by that one :) [12:51] or we could teach people to do such things in a non channel window... [12:55] afternoon all [12:59] todays challenge: identify this laptop, https://nextcloud.azelphur.com/nextcloud/index.php/s/KbyMikwxRNF5fzn [13:12] Toshiba Satellite P845T ? [13:12] looks more asus to me... [13:13] MooDoo: how do me owld mucka [13:13] acer/asus keyboard, toshiba screen? [13:14] acheronUK: certainly looks like it, you did well :) [13:14] eww windows and celeron sticker. [13:14] made a mistake of not taking those off on the first day once and had a non-faded patch forever after removing it late [13:14] and offset touch pad due to numberpad so icky keyboard as well [13:15] laptops aren't meant to have a numberpad [13:15] they just ruin it [13:15] except for accountants [13:16] but they should really get an external usb keyboard for that as the internal ones aren't great [13:16] good point actually, it's not a Toshiba Satellite P845T, the Toshiba Satellite P845T doesn't have a numpad [13:17] close, but no cigar [13:19] but using your description, looks like a P875-31P [13:25] maybe just a P850? [13:26] seen the pinebook? [13:26] https://www.pine64.org/ [13:31] so cheap. shame it doesn't have many rams [13:31] buy 3 and run seperate tasks on each :-) [13:31] lol number pad. [14:07] [86804.517813] drm/i915: Resetting chip after gpu hang [14:07] ewww [14:08] ;) [14:08] more common than you think probably [14:09] yeah whenever i resume from suspend [14:09] and the machine freezes [14:10] don't use sleep? :) [14:11] as an insomniac i resemble that remark :-P [14:12] zmoylan-pi: ah you just need a BIOS update or change of OS! [14:14] * zmoylan-pi clings to os/2 and starts a rousing chorus of the ibm song... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am_sSvIT4xk [14:15] i'm actually far enough along with insurance for my domestic drama that i can buy things for the bathroom now! [14:15] they didn't even quibble over the rebuild spec one bit [14:17] so you've sourced the most expensive rubber duck you can find? :-) [14:18] it runs linux AND android... [14:22] wow yep the local B&Q guy admits they pocket the VAT [14:22] "oh it goes on other stuff like freight and so on" [14:22] well... they have the resources to fortify the place and keep the tax bods out for ages... :-) [14:23] that they do! [14:24] why do dell laptops (inspiron 13) only come with 128/256gig SSDs now ? [14:24] the highest spec one you appear to be able to 'upgrade' to 512 :/ [14:24] because we all trust the cloud :-P [14:25] it's always cheaper to do it yourself after the fact anyway [14:25] my sister said something along those lines zmoylan-pi [14:25] i just order in for folk with spinning rust :) [14:25] not sure i want to get my sis to self-install windows on her own new laptop sadly, daftykins [14:26] seriously? it's ready, aim, fire these days [14:26] i tend to avoid these kinds of complex issues by just paying through the nose for apple stuff. [14:26] you're at least browsing the outlet pages for the ace prices, yeah? [14:26] didn't do much yet, just had a peak on the dell website to wonder why they dont offer more storage [14:26] yeah way better to have machines you can't upgrade ;D [14:27] laptops should come standard with 2 * 1TB SSDs in raid1 tbh [14:27] you can upgrade an apple.... you just a very very steady hand to desolder the old ram and solder in the new ram :-P [14:27] SSDs in RAID is chavtastic computing, sir [14:28] not much to upgrade in my mac tbh, i7/16gig :/ [14:28] does iterm2 in effortless style. lol. [14:29] probably easier than working out a reliable backup solution thogh daftykins :D [14:33] well you have to use their backup, because if a machine from Apple dies you can't even remove the drive anymore! it's soldered on!* (* - most models) [14:38] yeh i meant more for my sis rather htan me [14:38] appleland does rely on timemachine, or drive imaging [14:40] it is good :( i hate to admit [14:40] it's just everything else... [14:45] age odl debate, works for me :D sister is windows background so need to find her a decent laptop to run her bakery biz from [14:46] kinda funny a client of mine who got persuaded into an iMac for home and regrets it hugely [14:47] oh that reminds me [14:48] how do you tactfully bring up to a client that you keep seeing their shifty browsing history - in order to educate them on private browsing modes? :D [14:48] im not sure id go imac. i like my macbook, but i use PC for gaming / other stuff [14:48] 'antivirus scan found some odd browsing history' [14:49] nah they're too limited, in fact they're even worse on the storage side because you can only get those stupid fusion drive combos [14:52] i guess if youre just using it as a terminal [14:52] which is kinda how i use my macbook for work [14:53] tho it does power some screens. i couldnt work from a windows machine these days, and ubuntu isn't terribly enterprise friendly [14:54] does OSX do middle-click paste? That's easily the most annoying thing about using Windows for me [14:54] you know macs don't even have two buttons, right? :) [14:55] fraid not, BigRedS [14:55] well [14:55] it does in iterm. [14:55] haha, oh yeah, I forgot about that! [14:55] but even with a normal mouse plugged in, do you not get that? [14:57] yeh [14:57] i use a logitech 'mx master' [14:57] and i can middle click paste into terms [16:32] I don't always middle click, but when I do, it's quite hard [16:33] s/it's/I do it/ maybe? [19:20] Artful Aardvark :) [21:28] utility voltage just went up to 252V. my UPS kicked-in because it detected it as abbarent - AVR: Active Voltage Regulation/Reduction (IIRC) [21:29] back down to 248V now [21:53] someone in currys has a mate flush out the marginal hardware just before the weekend to boost sales [21:56] "marginal" in what way? [22:00] a little extra juice will fry it [22:03] Hmm. [22:10] I like cortana [22:10] she's hot [22:10] wait till you meet a real woman... :-P [22:11] lol [22:37] but by then he'll think he can ask them for the weather and allsorts :( [22:37] lol [22:38] hey, daftykins, set an alarm for 30 minutes [22:38] in-built adblockers?! https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-and-google-reportedly-planning-on-adding-a-built-in-ad-blocker-to-edge-and-chrome/ [22:40] hello? https://twitter.com/lizfraser1/status/855107725575041024 [23:36] XD [23:36] ok Master Chief